What's the greatest album of all time and why is it loveless?

That isn't The Dark Side of the Moon you newfag.

Souvlaki is unironically better

>>70240133
Both are worse than Nowhere.

>>70240155
But Going Blank Again is better than Nowhere.

>>70240155

If you stripped away the distortion from nowhere it would literally just be britpop which is why Going Blank Again is better

>basic bitch songwriting
>b-but muh production
This record is nothing without its production gimmicks. Thus why it doesn't have ultimately long lasting potential...except by those who lionize the shit out it cult style.

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>>70240122
Not these two

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This is the best album of all time.

>>70240122
wrong
>>70240133
souvlaki is nearly perfect but you're still wrong
>>70240155
absolutely wrong
>>70240200
commit suicide immediately

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no

>>70240155
Absolutely right.

>>70240200
This is true. The songwriting is just your basic pop. It's not bad, but a simple pop album could never be "the greatest of all time" regardless of how pleasant it sounds.

>>70240122
only plebs will disagree with this
>m-muh dadrock
>m-muh niche genre
DSOTM had a cultural impact on all of western civilization and influenced multiple styles of music
Just look at how many bands in the last 30 years list Pink Floyd (specifically DSOTM) as one of their inspirations

>>70240267
true

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This one is my favorite as far as guitar albums go.

>>70240122
Fuck off /b/.

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>>70241697
While the songwriting is, stripped down to its core, very much rooted in alternative rock, you are wrong on a number of fronts. By asserting that the songwriting is "basic" or "simple" you lack an understanding of the structure of these songs. The effects complement the songwriting and vice versa, because the chord progressions usually maintain major chords then swing to minor. This is important because it makes the changes in chords more distinguishable through the noise (see "Come In Alone" for a perfect example of this). Further, if you stripped away many of the effects of the album, many parts would not work. The effects and sounds are essential to the album ("Loomer" would sound like shit without the effects, for example). You can't strip away the effects which are so integral to the album and then criticize your new made up version of the album. And even if you were to do that, I have already explained why the songwriting is not only advanced, it works in tandem with the effects to create a sensation unique in music.

>>70240122
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>>70241913
Holy shit, four with such a weak bait, I didn't even try.

>>70241792
6th best Pink Floyd album tho

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>>70242030
>falling for the counter bait

>>70241879
This man knows

>>70242101
Holy shit.

>>70241697
You're among the laziest kind of music listeners out there based on your definition of accessible and challenging while having Loveless as your pick. Retards like you think good music is one that attempts to actively "challenge" the listener by having sounds that are traditionally unconventional or atonal, but as has been proven by science itself such a distinction is completely shallow. Meanwhile, you'll take something that's surface level easy to understand like Loveless or a more poppy record in general and automatically think it's bad because of that rather than making an active attempt at picking out the subtleties of a record like that. Oh but then I guess you making an active attempt to pick up on stuff is too much work for you.

To you a repetitive record that explores no new ideas and has nothing to really say is going to be fantastic as long as it's abrasive and goofy to YOU or to the general populace. But a pop record that tries its hardest to cram various little things for the listener to pick up and reward the listener with would be shit because it's a pop record that anyone can listen to regardless.

Btw Loveless isn't just guitar noise. Maybe make a conscious attempt to pick up on how much production/studio work and sampling has gone into this album. The mix on each track sounds totally different with where the instruments are placed and what their end timbres sound like being very different. There is both DJ Shadow-esque drum sampling and this interesting take on feedback sampling which is far more pinpoint than what the noise/power electronics/industrial guys had done by then. Like say...the minimalist classical work Strumming Music by Charlemagne Palestine, the songwriting is purposefully kept very simple so the focus of the listener goes more towards the more subtle, microtonal, and psychoacoustic aspects of what the music offers.

>>70242178
hmmm this seems familiar

>>70242178
I'm not saying it's not a great album. It's just not the greatest of all time.