2010's bleep-bloops are shite

>>70201326
You're retarded

Pretty much every music genre is stagnating right now. Worst timeline.

>>70201378
My apologies for not succumbing to the hivemind and dickriding Arca, OPN, James Ferrari, Danny Blunt and whatever other hackist bullshit this board loves to circlejerk over, anon.

>>70201326
what is autechre you dumb fucker

>>70201398
a 90's group

>>70201398

One band

Whose best material was released in the 90s.

>>70201396
>Only listen to 3 artists
>Wtf the 2010s are shit

I regret even giving you a (you)

>>70201396
>my apologies for not liking modern music and being the electronic equivalent of a dadrocker

>>70201409
you're retarded, their 2010's work is vastly different compared to their earlier releases

>>70201326
Listen to Neon Indian if you want to hear someone fucking around on modular synths and make great music and fuck off

>>70201421
their 2010's work is actually derivative of their late 2000's material

>>70201417
t. electronic equivalent of poptimist

>>70201326
>Why is 2010's electronic music so fucking shit?
millennials and liberals

/thread

>>70201439
>OPN
>James Ferraro
>poptimism
this board isn't for you

listen to music faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM0WbWb2iZs

>>70201468
>OPN
>James Ferraro
>garbage music for people too afraid to explore good music simply because it's old and unfashionable
pick 3

Much like the 90's were a callback to 60's culture, the 2010's are a callback to 80's culture. And as we all know it 80's culture was absolute garbage.

Here's hoping the 2030's are a callback to 00's culture.

>>70201326
>>70201489
>>70201396
>>70201439

Why put this much effort into a shitpost?

>>70201544
This might shock you but not everything that goes against your opinions is a shitpost anon.

>>70201470
Great rec anon, Rolando Simmons is talented as fuck, can't wait to see what he has planned for 2017 . There's a lot of other up and coming talent out there as well, it's just harder to find not because there's a lack of good music as much as it is the sheer abundance of music you have to sift through with everybody on SC and BC to find whatever it is that resonates with you.

>>70201593
>Missing the point entirely

It's not that OPs opinion is shit because of his taste, his opinion is shit because it's based on 3 fucking albums he's listened to.

Raime, Jam City, Demdike Stare. Don't DJ, Foodman, Emptyset, Lakker, Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith, Lee Gamble, Heurco S, Motion Graphics, Rashad Becker, Helm, Bruce, Heatsick, Gunnar Haslam are some people you should check out

>>70201392
sad that you got stuck in the past lmao

>>70201326
> 00'
> good DnB
How shitty are your tastes anon?

music that is not connected to the pop genre is rarely appreciated the most during its own time.

I theorize a few years from now people will look back more fondly on the 2010s

feel free to disagree

>plebian
80s
>contrarian
00s
>patrician
60s

>>70201997
I love most of these artists but I don't think people like Heatsick are ever going to make it bigger than they already are.

also:
daniel avery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEm0zbJe0jY

>>70201326
afx interview in 2001:

>What does Warp Records mean to you these days?
(laughing). Not a lot. The difference between them and any other record company is getting smaller and smaller which is why I’m not going to release any more records on Warp. One single maybe but I doubt it. I have to stop them all the time. I did a promo for the album and they wanted to release it as a single. If’ve got to constantly make sure that they don’t push me too far.

>Why do you release your new double album „Drukqs“ on Warp?
Eh, that’s quite a good question. I’m sort of contractually obliged to release with them. I’ve got no problem with them at all, so it’s not a big deal. At the same time me and Squarepusher are starting up our own label. I released those acid mixes („2 Remixes by AFX“, MEN1). That’s our first release.

>Why do you want another label?
Mainly because Tom’s got a real problem being on a label where there’s other artists he hates. He hates everything on Warp. He doesn’t like Autechre, he doesn’t like, mmh, I don’t know. He likes the old things. „LFO“ is probably the last record he liked (laughs). He doesn’t like to carry everyone along. I don’t mind being on a label where there’s shit people. I don’t like that music on Warp either. And I’m aware that they benefit from what you do. They’re like „Oh, we’re on Warp“ and people take notice of that and then they buy their records and stuff. But it doesn’t bother me as much as Tom. But because he’s a good mate I understand what he’s saying. So we prefer to do it ourselves because it’s more pure. If it was up to me „Drukqs“ would be on Rephlex but I contractually have to give it to Warp.

1910=electricity started 1920-1950=classic electricity 1960-1970=golden age of electro for old machines 1980=perfect age for robot rebels 1990=improved good electro and also the year for techno and nightcore 2000=electro is still good and vaporwave songs start to appear 2001-2006=electricity is changing 2007=electricity music but good and relaxing like darude sandstorm 2008=some crappy electro is starting to appear 2009=crappy electro is spreading 2010=you gotta be kidding me this isnt music vaporwave
2011=R.I.P. electricity goodbye,,,

i mean thats kind of just whats popular right now or what has a scene to draw attention to it. the most forward thinking electronic music that came out in 2016 probably wont gain popularity until like 2018 or 19

If only more people on /mu/ knew of PAN Records.

>>70201426
lmao

>>70201454
>threading your own comment that consists of a shitty one-liner that doesn't say anything at all

Wew lad

>>70204549
Liberal millennial detected.

>>70203099
lole

>>70201489
Listening to new music that is inspired by old music and is in itself unfashionable, how high are you?

>>70201537
>80s culture was absolute garbage
>"but hey, let's have a 2000s callback, a decade that already was a callback in itself"

Brilliant

>>70204603
Embarrassing

>>70204663
Embarrassing.

>>70204632
Every decade is a callback to a previous decade. That's why everything is getting so shit like, you can only copy something so many times until it falls apart.

>>70204488
This. I'll make a list of other good labels that come to my mind, some probably more well-known than other:

Halcyon Veil
Classical Trax
Symbols
Planet Mu
Infinite Machine
Staycore
The Astral Plane (!!)
TAR (Tessier-Ashpool Recs.)
Orange Milk Records (!!)
Apothecary Compositions
Quantum Natives
Night Slugs
Fade to Mind

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This album alone is better than anything that came out in the 00s.

>>70204811
I'd add

Blackest Ever Black
Diagonal
Delsin
Tri Angle
Modern Love
Stroboscopic Artefacts
Text Records
The Trilogy Tapes
Subtext

>>70201537
90's was a callback to the 70's. The 80's callback was in the 00's. The 2010's are a shitty 90's callback.

>>70204953
The 00's were all about minimalism you retard. The 10's are about """satirical""" consumerism aka the 80's.

>>70201413
>Exai was released in the 90s
what the fuck

>>70201489
this

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>>70204979
but it doesn't though, it's a pretty eclectic label

here's one of my fav PAN releases thats nothing like that

>>70204987
Did you even live through the 00's you child? You don't remember the revival of 80's fashion and obnoxious neon? Pop-punk bands "ironically" covering hairmetal? etc

n

>>70205082
Those started to pop-up by the end of the decade, ironically enough.

Way up until 2006-2007 at least the 00's were all about TDR-esque futuistic minimalism, a style itself from the late 90's.

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>>70204854
Nice.

The 2010s have tons of good albums actually, and quality movements like outsider house and UK Bass and whatnot. I honestly believe Vaporwave, PC Music and other post-internet jank will fall in the same trashbin that other overhyped shitty movements of the past did, like 00's gimmicky IDM/breakcore and 90's derivative big beat and progressive trance.

>>70205176
Derivative big beat and progressive trance are still more preferable to vaporwave and pc music though.

>>70205214

I don't know what he was thinking with that 5 minute intro track that just loops over and over again. The textures are top-notch I like how he takes these typical chiptuney sounds and make them sound placid and sinister. Also I freaking love that yoshi hatching sound.

>>70204979
Got too much wax in your ears, or hearing problems? Because this is objectively wrong

I miss breakbeats

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You all should check out Abyss X - Nüshu

>>70201593
>keeping it up this long

Why don't you guys like PC music?

>>70204943
Uh, I actually didn't know half of that list. Are they all in a similar vein as the ones I posted?

>>70205451
the list i replied two covered a lot of different stuff so i did to, Blackest Ever Black and Modern Love (Andy Scotts label) have a lot of moody dark stuff, Stroboscopic Artefacts and Subtext are labels on the deeper end of (dub) techno, Diagonal is Powell's label and releases loads of crazy synthy EBM type stuff

>>70201326
>he thinks 10s pop EDM garbage is all that's been produced

>>70205398
Haven't got around to it yet, but it's on my list.

>>70205448
I thought some of it was cool at first, like EasyFun and Danny L Harle. It just got dated really quickly, and to be honest, I think there came way more interesting music out of the whole cultural obsession with accelerationism, than the alienating pop pastiche of PC Music.

>>70205519
Thanks, will check them out!

here is what actual 2010s bleeps and bloops sounds like, maybe you should diversify your listening past internet memes

https://soundcloud.com/nightimedrama/a-design-principles-infinite?in=nightimedrama/sets/ntd001-infinite-loops-design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kwPgpbmpkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6dN1WB8Az0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g40bmWLw4PE
https://soundcloud.com/pcmus/lil-tape

>>70201326
are you kidding me

I'm all about /bleep/ but shit just keeps getting better, you're an idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSEH9C9tBfE

>>70205176
>>70205255
progressive trance is the most overlooked 90's movement tbqhwy

>>70205394
same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cZR2NRcQIM

>>70205779

i dont like people that have no taste yet think they do

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>>70205394

>i miss breakbeats

here

>>70206011
im not saying those are 5 life changing bits of music its just the ones that sprang to mind

>>70201430
(not true, btw)

>>70201413
What is Exai
What is Elseq

>>70205818
Saw this in a /bleep/ thread the other day fucking love it. Been listening to all of their music lately.

>>70203041
Avery is a hack that relies on ghost producers

>>70206219
Not him but beyond Confield yeah it is.

>>70206219
how pleb are you

I think OP just made a sneaky rec thread and you all fell for it.

Autechre - elseq1-5
Jam City - Classical Curves
Actress - RIP
Andy Stott - Luxury Problems
Aphex Twin - Syro
The Caretaker - An Empty Bliss Beyond This World
Clams Casino - Rainforest
Dean Blunt - Black Metal
Demdike Stare - Liberation Through Hearing
DJ Rashad - Double Cup (yeah I know the sound originated in the 90s but was never this rhythmic)
Emptyset - Demiurge
James Holden - The Inheritors
The Knife - Shaking The Habitual
Kuedo - Severant
Laurel Halo - Quarantine
Machinedrum - Rooms
Mala - Mala In Cuba
Murmuure - s/t
Oneohtrix Point Never - Garden Of Delete
Pita - Get In
Prurient - Frozen Niagara Falls
Shackleton - Music for the quiet Hour/Drawbar Organ EPs
Terrence Dixon - From The Far Future Pt. 2
Third Eye FOundation - The Dark
Gesloten Cirkel's stuff in general

There, some stuff that's kinda different from the usual all released in the 2010s

>>70205176
>quality movements like outsider house and UK Bass and whatnot
In contrast to the current experimental club scene headed up by artists such as Lotic, Ziúr and the NAAFI collective, lo-fi producers are almost exclusively white and male. It would be easy to say that these artists will be judged on the quality of the music and not their names, but while the music is arguably better than you’d get from the average Ibiza tech-house DJ, the lo-fi scene is currently still a microcosm of the diversity issues that affect house and techno as a whole.

>>70206336

>Oneohtrix Point Never - Garden Of Delete

his worst album

>>70206387

Literally tied for his best.

>>70206336
one third of those is trash and the other third is by artists from the 90's and 00's

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I love the 90s too but half of jungle and DNB was just amen breaks shoved through a sampler on 50% of "classic" tracks, which wouldnt get you 100 soundcloud followers in 2017

the technology has increased so much that almost nothing is impressive anymore.

>>70206387
Nah it's his best. It just attacks the listener with a very large variety of sounds, rhythms and melodies within a short amount of time, so it takes a lot of time to digest it.

>>70206411
Give us some names. Not to mention that either way the topic's about newer stuff being done in the 2010s, and I posted that.

>>70204943
>>70204811

these here

also add these labels:
Token
Horizontal
Lobster Theremin
100% silk
Avian
Norther Electronics
Opal Tapes (a lot of shit here though along with the good)

Literally have a starter lists here of several entire labels who generally put out more good music than whatever bullshit OP reamed from Pitchfork best of lists that seemed to make up the entirety of OP's music knowledge

>>70206424
The technology has increased but the effort has diminished, as evidenced by vaporwave.

>>70206336
gesloten cirkel, shackleton and maybe demdike stare are the only salvageable artists ffs

>>70206411
>>70206448
Garden of Delete is precisely the type of memetronica OP is having a grudge against.

Just shut up, guys. Electronic has always been shit. Very few artists knew how to use electronic music the right way

>>70205176
outsider house is fucking shit
delroy edwards killed that genre long ago. fuck off

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>>70206454
i think making the really weird vaporwave stuff is a lot more difficult than making this "classic" breakbeat track, which is literally just 4 chords from a Korg M1, a non-chopped Amen Break, and a sample of a dolphin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjFYv6crYik

the problem is that most of the weird vaporwave shit is boring and isn't designed to be catchy / danceable

Something like Vaperror's Acid Arcadia or any of Machine Girl's stuff has a lot more effort put into it than 90s dance tracks, by far.

ALSO PIC FUCKING RELATED, its still possible to make really cool catchy creative shit, but almost no one does it.

>>70206376
is this p4k

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>>70206376
excellent bait, it deserves a (You)

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I have yet to read an strong arguemnt on why people hate pic related.
its always some buzzword attack like "hack".
>>70206518
>>70206562
classic example if its anything out of their comfort zone its "bait" or "p4k" not logical arguments being made.

>>70206270
I'm happy to give out recs, this is not /bleep/.

>>70206448

>It just attacks the listener with a very large variety of sounds, rhythms and melodies within a short amount of time, so it takes a lot of time to digest it.

It's the easiest OPN album to digest. It's just nu-metal recontextualized into MIDI with a few ironic trance and EDM pads thrown into the mix. Also the whole Ezra storyline and text to speech singing is just gimmicky and stupid.

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>>70206580
there is literally nothing wrong with something being mostly white, just like there is nothing wrong with the NBA being mostly black

you hate white people

>>70206508
Yeah but at the same time stuff like Photek or 4hero still had more effort put into it than something like Floral Schoppe. Jungle evolved from non-chopped amen use by '93, whereas a good majority of vaporwave these days is still ambient collage that's having it's laziness obfuscated by aesthetics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFbpLSt0KsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQMQeSxIQbU

Future Funk is a completely different story since it's just rebranded french house.

>>70206623
agree, garden of delete was when OPN jumped the shark. some cringe ARG reddit crap, and the metal composition felt so out of place

>>70206376
lotic's sets can be a bit annoying desu decent tunes though

>>70206625
You just couldn't make an argument without putting some personal attack to it right?

I'm white so i must hate white people if something like that is mentioned.
Try again but please use logic.

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>>70206661
there is literally nothing wrong with something being mostly white, just like there is nothing wrong with the NBA being mostly black

you hate white people, and you have no argument

>>70206376
where did FACT even get the idea that this was true? like plenty lo-fi house events that I've been to have non-white females and plenty of the artists fit that category too, weird conclusion

>>70201326
your timeline is fucking retarded

>>70201326

>80s electronic music
>good

>>70206580
blunt is good but too inconsistent
arca is also good but he's still generic idm with interesting aesthetics, hardly a groundbreaking innovator
can't say much about the other 2 since I'm not a fan

>>70206706
ok

>>70206466
What about OPN, Laurel Halo, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Terrence Dixon, Jam City, Machinedrum, etc.?

They are all acknowledged artists that have put out great work.

>>70206387
>>70206476
Just stop it already, GoD is not "memetronica", OP obviously doesn't know shit and hasn't bothered to look very far outside shitty meme music.

GoD is a great work with lots of emotion packed into the harsh and alien sounds. The live performances were silly, though.

>>70206717
>OP hasn't bothered to look very far outside shitty meme music
>goes on recommending even more shitty meme music

>>70206744
What shitty meme music did I recommend? Do you always just call music you don't like or bother to get into "meme music"?

>>70206717
>GoD is a great work with lots of emotion

wow thats some really indepth analysis

its a shitty album, made by taking metal compositions and throwing them into midi and adding on some Korg pads.

and the entire artistic work surrounding the album (cring ARG shit) was embarrassing.

>>70206717
well a lot of those are before 2010's artists who happen to still be making music, not really representative of newer scenes and artist development

from the ones that actually fit the criteria, I selected the only ones that measure up. OPN is ok I guess, but massively overrated, but I guess it's better than people jerking off to jamie xx or something

>>70206717
>What about OPN, Laurel Halo, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Terrence Dixon, Jam City, Machinedrum, etc.?

if these are the electronic artists you consider "great" please kill yourself, you havent even scratched the surface of anything and should just get a job at pitchfork

/mu/ doesn't know anything about electronic music
i see people recommending shitty outsider house and pan records LMAO

>>70201326
good bait man

>>70201326
Just make it yourself bruh. Here, have some old school that I just released today

https://splice.com/Bluskycomplx/nervo-ft-timmy-trumpet---anywhere-you-go-bluskycomplx-remix

>>70206757
I don't give a fuck about how an album is made. I only care about the end product, and whether it consists of metal thrown into MIDI or not, I don't really care, I think it was executed very well. I liked how it conceptualized being a teenager in such a "direct" way.

It produced some sounds and emotions that I haven't experienced with much other music. That doesn't mean that its even near being my favourite album, but it was unique and enjoyable.

>>70201396
>apologies for liking to be a contrarian for the sake of it

>>70206774
I didn't do the write-up, they are not the only artists that I consider great. So you think they're a bunch of hacks who didn't make anything worthwhile, although basically everyone would disagree with you?

>>70206764
>>70206774
>>70206784
Then post your own names.

i love garden of delete

i hate people who just recommend it blindly and act like it's his best when they've never heard anything before it

>>70206884
>So you think they're a bunch of hacks who didn't make anything worthwhile, although basically everyone would disagree with you?
dumbest argument yet
>if its popular then it must be good

>>70206884
>Then post your own names.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeNLWF-FIA8

>>70206884
>Then post your own names.
just look up record labels, artists names in a lot of electronic music are pretty ephemeral, it's more the record label that is the foundation

plenty of labels have been listed in this thread, including some shit ones, but w.e. you can check em out and see. Some of it's also up to taste, I fucking hate jungle and footwork but they have a scene and community going so good for them.

>>70206911
And you're dodging answering my question. You assumed from a post that those are the epitome of great electronic musicians, while I had never said anything like that. I merely defended them saying that they're not bad artists, and saying that they are would be absurd.

Oh, and you forgot to give us examples of all the patrician electronic music you know :)

>>70206476
How the fuck is GoD memetronica? It's his most musically complex work with its progressive rock style structures. Shit's pretty unique for electronic music in general which chooses to go for a more minimalism style format than GoD.

>>70206623
>nu-metal
Nu metal doesn't have the layers that GoD does. No sounds like GoD does either, and certainly doesn't have the kind of polyphonic work going on in GoD.

If all you get out of GoD is nu metal baby tier jump the gun memes, you're ADD as fuck and don't want to give closer attention to music and just throw it away when it doesn't initially appeal to you. Aka a faggot who's no different from a person who only listens to radio shit.

>>70206466
Oh cool, you only like darker club music and essentially shit on anything else on the list that doesn't fit that.

>>70201326
actress is breddy gud

oren ambarchi, aiden baker, ben frost, huerco s, tim hecker, daniel avery....the list goes on

>>70206946
Ffs, I know about those labels, I was the one who posted one of the lists. I'm asking you people, who call everything other people post trash, to post your own recs. What labels do you like then? Just name a few.

>>70206964
>It's his most musically complex work with its progressive rock style structures. Shit's pretty unique for electronic music in general which chooses to go for a more minimalism style format than GoD.
So it's spork-core?

That by association makes it memetronica.

>>70201426
kek

>>70206964
>Oh cool, you only like darker club music and essentially shit on anything else on the list that doesn't fit that.
i mean that wouldn't be the case if the list including good ambient, house, dnb etc but instead its a compilation of pitchfork-core

>>70207003
>20minute song
>responds after 5 minutes
kill your self pls don't comment until you've listened to it for atleast a week

>>70207042
well i'd suggest you clean your ears :)

>>70207018
But nonetheless you ended up shitting on a lot of good artists, like Aphex Twin. Something being reviewed in pitchfork =/= bad music

anime grime

leave 20'10s bleep-bloops to me

>>70206508
galaxy garden is so great

>>70206508
>>70206901
it's also less jungle and more of an early dnb tune

>>70207016
>sporkcore = memetronica
Lmao wtf? Is Zappa considered memerock? Is Cardiacs memepunk? Residents memexperimental? There's nothing meme about having a constantly changing and progressing collage of sounds. GoD is done in an overall style that's rare, and thus kinda fresh. Memetronica is his more vaporwave sounding stuff considering how much of a meme trend that is.

>>70207018
>pitchfork core
Cool so you hate the stuff because of its perception by others not because of the music itself?

>>70206974
idk what you want, there's already a bunch of labels mentioned. I guess cherrypicking a couple of those I prefer Blackest Ever Black, Northern Electronics, Giegling, Further, etc but even a lot of the others mentioned have at least a few decent releases

>>70201326
haven't you listened to gusgus or the knife

>>70206950
>Oh, and you forgot to give us examples of all the patrician electronic music you know :)
here u go https://clyp.it/ljwmooua

let me know if u want more

>>70207107
shame his recent stuff doesn't hold up to it

like it's still good but it doesn't have the extreme density that gg has and as such is disappointing, he should've taken a new alias for his post-gg albums or kept gg shelved for a year or 5, gg is that forward-thinking

>>70207141
>>Lmao wtf? Is Zappa considered memerock? Is Cardiacs memepunk? Residents memexperimental?
yeah

>>70207187
sissy spacek core

>>70207075
m8 aphex twin and terrence dixon and shit are not relevant to the thread because they're artists that have been around for decades. the pitchfork-core stuff like dean blunt, laurel halo, clams casino etc is just terribly overrated.

some good albums:

kadahn - eraser meditations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAXMToU-KDY&list=PLNY1H2oM91nBoGGVF4uCEa74QoCcGhekq&index=5

loft - turbulent dynamics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPhjex5_vLI

M.E.S.H. - Piteous Gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-GUSPEjMK4

2000s were definitely a more interesting period for dance music. We still have 3 years to go, so maybe that will change.

>>70207166
>gusgus
their best stuff was in the 90's

GOAT live performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-906AoxuqTg

>>70207219
dixon is gr8 piss off mane

>>70207219
>the pitchfork-core stuff like dean blunt
okay now you're an idiot he hasn't gotten one good score from them and somehow hes p4k core now?
you don't know shit

>>70207236
>M.E.S.H.
well memed, though it is a good record

opn literally references garbage pale kids and has /b/ reaction images and furry porn in his music videos how the fuck is he not spork-core

You guys are utter wastemen

>>70207158
I've been asking you people to name some good electronic artists, because apparently you think a lot of the other stuff posted is shit.

>>70207187
Oh, so nothing. That's what I thought

>>70207219
Yeah I know, but that wasn't really specified before. I disagree about Laurel Halo and Dean Blunt, but I have no idea why Clams Casino was even included in the first place.

>>70206246
but both those albums are much better than confield

>>70207266
How the fuck is anything "spork-core?"

>>70207298
>I've been asking you people to name some good electronic artists, because apparently you think a lot of the other stuff posted is shit.
none exist atm

>>70207238
dance music =/= electronic music

>>70207257
So you like M.E.S.H., but consider him a meme? I'm not sure what you're saying

>>70207312
by being lolsorandumb and liked by people like avant-math god

>>70207219
>m8 aphex twin and terrence dixon and shit are not relevant to the thread because they're artists that have been around for decades
Is it not relevant at all that they made music this decade that is fresh and interesting? Syro is a ridiculously ambitious work of all analog music using a ton of analog gear to make an album that would be far easier to make digitally, but was done analog to have it sound distinct. Also sounds nothing at all like other Aphex. From The Far Future Pt. 2 sounds not even close to Dixon's earlier stuff with how unconventional its putting together of various sounds is; it's weirdly sorta like the Trout Mask Replica of techno where these sounds shouldn't work together but as one goes through each track...they kinda work.

>the p4kcore meme again
Of course. Image>>>>Music, am I right?

>>70207266
Ezra is supposed to be a teenage kid who spends too much time on the internet but he's an alien, too. Are The Who also sporkcore now because they made an album on an autistic weirdo who's really good at playing pinball?

>>70207333
So by having aesthetics you don't like and being liked by people you don't like? Truly scathing criticism.

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>>70201396
But anon Arca and OPN are objectively good

>>70207300
"no"

how come nobody has mentioned VS?
he made 2016 Aoty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YYzx5PJIrg

>>70201392
Then try to make something better. Every downpoint is an opportunity for improvement. It just takes a little work.

>>70207363
lolsorandum is a characteristic not an aesthetic

>>70207392
>Then try to make something better. Every downpoint is an opportunity for improvement. It just takes a little work.
sure give me enough money to quit my job and school and ill change the game

>>70207344
>Image>>>>Music
image matters to be honest. I'm not going to go to some party or concert where dean blunt is doing some 2artschool4u shit. most of the stuff posted in here that you are getting butthurt people don't like is from artists who don't come from a particular music scene and who don't represent an actual aesthetic beyond "heres some music magazine approved electronic albums for my collection!"

who the fuck thinks music has to revolve around artists and albums, that's some Rolling Stone level bullshit.

>>70207396
>use references, images and music video stuff to make the sporkcore conclusion
>b-but it's a characteristic not an aesthetic!
Fucking retard.

>>70207331

Dance music is a massive subsection of electronic music you melt

>>70207425
aesthetics are characteristics but not all characteristics are aesthetics

>>70207440
... yes? Did I state anywhere that it isn't?

>>70207496

Thread is about "2010s bleep-bloop" which I assume is /mu/ speak for electronic music, and I just stated my opinion on 2010s dance music.

>>70207331
>So you like M.E.S.H., but consider him a meme? I'm not sure what you're saying
I love tons of memes. memebleeps is genuinely some of my fav music

>>70207416
>from artists who don't come from a particular music scene
That's what makes them such standout artists because it legit feels like they are doing their own thing. It's also what leads to their music being fresh instead of the ubiquitous stuff that's out there otherwise.

I could've earlier listed a bunch of other cool releases that have come out in the 2010s, stuff that would be probably more approved by others here, but that would be missing the point of this topic, which is to talk about fresh and new things happening rather than just a quality take on an older sound/style.

>who don't represent an actual aesthetic beyond "heres some music magazine approved electronic albums for my collection!"
They all have their own unique (musical) aesthetics rather than just copying someone else. That's why some of them are given love from magazines, fans, etc.

I do like that most of electronic music stays away from the image bullshit because then one can judge based on what really matters, the music (not image, not gimmicks, not hype). Hell, the one guy who does do stupid gimmick shit, Dean Blunt, I am not even all that big a fan of. But then, I also think Black Metal's the only good thing to come from the guy.

>>70207387
confield is a great album, the 2010s stuff is just deeper and more musically interesting

>>70207476
And what you first referenced clearly talked of the aesthetics that do come under characteristics. Stop memeing the GoD hate you loser, and think for yourself so you can think more clearly.

>>70207588
>And what you first referenced clearly talked of the aesthetics that do come under characteristics
nope

>>70207635
Yup

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>>70207645
:^)

>>70207569
>That's why some of them are given love from magazines, fans, etc.
no it's because every single one of them has their release on a large label who has a PR person who sends tons of info and materials to all the music mags to review. If you don't have the PR department, it's basically only by some luck or some writer with a specific taste that you would be covered.

For example, is Laurel Halo shit? Nah, her stuff's ok, but honestly it's not much different or interesting than the myriad of stuff that comes out on 1080p, Lobster Theremin, etc, but because her album is on Hyperdub records with a solid PR department that is well connected to the music mags it will get all the attention. Rinse repeat for almost everything you listed.

>>70207670
what's opn supposed to mean

>>70207645
yeah
/mu/ can hate but nobody sounds like them at all.
black metal is my fav electronic album of the 10s

>>70207557
But why is M.E.S.H. a meme? It's not really bleeps either

>>70207693
shovel in russian

>>70207691
>no it's because every single one of them has their release on a large label who has a PR person who sends tons of info and materials to all the music mags to review.
besides tmt who else giving these guys high ratings?
stop talking out of your ass

>>70207700
idk if he still is, was a definitely time when he was memed on /bleep/ a lot though

>>70207739
that's strange, it's not really club music. could you talk about non-club stuff in /bleep/ back then?

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>>70206401
t. guy who has never listened to dania shapes

>>70207811
lmao

>>70207726
what? I'm not talking the score, I don't really even know who gets what scores, really, I'm talking that they're even covered by the quietus, pitchfork, tmt, etc. They get covered because they're on labels that have a PR dept that sends promo materials to them. They don't go trawling through all of music trying to find things (ok, maybe tmt does). They get coverage, then they get talked about on here and suddenly everyone mysteriously only knows bleep-bloops that come from hyperdub, warp, honest jon's, modern love etc, and that's largely because of industry connects.

didn't notice emptyset before, demiurge is also quality.

>>70207691

Hype Williams were getting acclaim years ago before Dean Blunt was even doing solo stuff
People have been talking about OPN since Rifts.
People have been talking about Arca since Stretch 2
Maybe Hippo In Tanks is a "large label" by your logic so I dunno about Laurel Halo.

>it's not much different from... 1080p, Lobster Theremin

What are you on about, those labels are nothing like any of those artists. Also, those two labels are overrated massively and use the same kind of PR techniques, they just do it in different ways, look at SLF and the way Jimmy markets his music.

Like I know /mu/ knows nothing about this kind of stuff but you're really taking the piss here.

cant believe no one's mentioned qebrus

>>70207773
idk, he's kind of /bleep/. I been to dance event with him though it was average.

>>70201392
>>70202458
No it's true. Music these days is so lifeless. It really needs a revitalization.

wow 210 posts and not a single avant-teen shitting on the decades in the op and glorifying the 50s and the 60s because of stockhausen varese the list goes on

>>70207691
>no it's because every single one of them has their release on a large label who has a PR person who sends tons of info and materials to all the music mags to review.
What are you on about? OPN himself wasn't on a larger label until R+7 for example. Most of those records that were given coverage were also not given a lot of love from publications that weren't The Wire, Resident Advisor, and TMT.

I put Pita on my list, and the guy was on the same label as OPN's older one, yet has never gotten much mainstream attention.

>comparing Halo to Lobster Theremin
Lobster Theremin is a one trick pony that only does lofi house and lofi techno stuff. Laurel Halo released something that's in between Bjork, synthpop, and IDM.

You talk about Hyperdub's decent PR department, but do you talk about how much freedom they give their artists to do whatever the fuck they want? They take risks that way ranging from Halo's Quarantine to something awful like Burial's latest attempt.

Hating on more well known labels just because they are well known is dumb. It's not like they are releasing basic bitch tier music. Warp is as mainstream as it gets for such labels, yet they went on and released one of the most inaccessible releases in recent times with Autechre's elseq1-5.

>>70207910
>those labels are nothing like any of those artists
is english not your first language? I was only talking about laurel halo haha, even said "for example"

I just wanted to remind you fucks defending GoD, that it was produced directly after he had gone on tour with Nine Inch Nails and is quoted as saying "I want the kid that works at the mall to like this record."

>>70208024
>You talk about Hyperdub's decent PR department, but do you talk about how much freedom they give their artists to do whatever the fuck they want? They take risks that way ranging from Halo's Quarantine to something awful like Burial's latest attempt.

do record labels really police artist's work? thought that was something only big labels did. actually do artists even sign multi-album deals with labels, or is it just one by one type thing?

>>70208029

Nothing on Lobby T/1080 sounds like Laurel Halo. Nice job picking out one thing from my post and ignoring everything else I wrote. Classic /mu/, and you're trying to criticise the generic and ignorant taste of /mu/, the irony...

>>70208047
And?

>>70208047
Cool, we are talking about the music here, not what Dan said, not what your initial shitty perception of the music was because you didn't give it time to settle, and certainly not those that hate change as much as his fans do.

>>70208009
Varese is overrated shit. The first couple minutes of Faust I's first track is essentially Varese's entire career. Stock's aight.

>>70208067
>do record labels really police artist's work?
yes. labels have a lot of investment costs to release music and organize tours etc, so most of them try to have a curated set of releases, not just "anything you want goes!!!" type stuff.

Idk about warp and hyperdub though, they probably could afford to let any of their bigger artists do whatever, it's not like burial tours anyways.

>>70208067
>do record labels really police artist's work?
yeah its called running a business. not everybody is cool with you recording fart sounds for your conceptual art project.
theirs a reason why nobody takes a chance on james ferraro anymore

>>70208162

Burial is a massive cash cow for Hyperdub. He could release anything and still make money.

Steve is surely the kind of guy who would give 100% artistic freedom to the artists on his label.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbg19MMdKSc&index=1&list=PLXkaO2AWqh5wIW62_7LaunGCjJAwD9AGC

>>70208067
It depends. So an closer example to what these guys are accusing Hyperdub to be can be found in what sometimes works as its metal/punk counterpart, Deathwish. If you are on Deathwish, expect everything to have that post-Converge's Jane Doe style Kurt Ballou production, with vocals all modified to sound more "raw" through studio magic. So even though you got this label that's got some relative variety in punk/metal like Converge, Deafheaven, and Oathbreaker, they all tend to have a similar sound.

Then you got more typical electronic dance music labels like Lobster Theremin or for a more mainstream example, Spinnin. They release just one or two very particular styles of music. These guys have a heavy restriction on how the music on their label should be because their business model is based on fans that come to the label for that kind of music. It's why there's often a higher focus on labels than individual artists in the bleep scene.

But then you got spots like Hyperdub and Warp that started off like the above labels doing on prime style of electronic music then started branching out, and thus use their status as being bigger names to be able to allow their artists to do anything. No way anyone these days can necessarily release their very first project on these labels though (Laurel Halo had four releases prior to Quarantine.)

>>70207141
residents is definitely memexperimental

>>70208341

Mate LT is just Jimmy releasing tunes that he likes

>>70208196
Didn't Burial have to release Temple Sleeper on some other label because it was lame?

>>70208341
thanks, this was actually pretty clear and helpful

>>70208112
>>70208122

When you listen to it with that context it becomes quite clear that there is not much more depth to it than it being made for fucking teenagers. If you actually think anything in GoD is challenging you really need to listen to more music.

>>70208373

No, Keysound is run by Blackdown who is a really big fan/person friend of Burial. He has a bunch of Burial dubs, Temple Sleeper was made ages ago and Blackdown is a big fan of all forms of UK music, especially garage. Because it's basically a speed garage tune he released it. This is a tune he made with Burial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kupjk29jFnM

How do you not know about Keysound? It's one of the best UK labels out there.

>>70206508
>Vaperror's Acid Arcadia
>Machine Girl
>has a lot more effort put into it than 90s dance tracks, by far.
if you want tunes with uplifting harmonies and frantic rhythms just listen to breakbeat hardcore mane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yXJnRm7Qfo

>>70208413
Cool, I don't care about what anyone else says and just look at the music itself, and GoD has a lot of depth in its ideas and parts.

I have no idea if it sucks or not, I'm gonna support it regardless.

MAKE ANIME REAL PLZ

>>70208413
I can only speak for myself, but I've never said that it's challenging. However, it, as someone else mentioned, has much more layers than just nu-metal. I like the unique sound of it, and as I said, I think some of the songs are packed with youthful emotion (if that makes sense).

>>70208372
Not gonna deny that, it's just that it's all been that within a similar style of lofi sounding house/techno.

>>70208379

Also pretty incorrect. Comparing Deathwish to Hyperdub is a bit ridiculous considering Hyperdub release pretty much every kind of dance music genre.

I wouldn't call LT a "typical" dance music label, since it's pretty much just Jimmy releasing music that he likes and if anything it has a more specific sound, like Deathwish.

Spinnin' definitely has a restriction on what you can release because it's all garbage lad house.

Hyperdub started out as Steve releasing his own music and spread from that, much like a lot of dance music labels. Dance music labels like these, I'd call "underground" labels, as in they're not EDM. Most of these labels just run as a crew or one person releasing music similar to what they produce/enjoy DJing.

>>70208641
I'm not too well versed in bleep-bloop labels, but I actually got all that from what he said. With Deathwish he meant a specific sound, i.e. the way Kurt likes to produce vocals, not that the labels music is very specific since they have a variety of stuff. And he wasn't saying Hyperdub is like Deathwish, he was saying that previous posters were implying they were.

Anyways, I rolled through some tracks on Lobster Theremin and I get what you mean; it's a bit like small black metal labels in which the labels is really just one or two guys who are releasing stuff they like that fits a certain taste.

>>70208641
Other dude wrote exactly what I was gonna post, and also like I said >>70208574, it definitely to an extent does the "focus around one or two styles" thing regardless of whether Jimmy intends it or not.

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>whole thread about electronic
>no EBM or aggrotek

fuck y'all,your music a shit

>>70207984

Why do you feel this way?

>>70201326
You've just listed the pop genres of the 80s-00s (besides IDM) and then the avant-garde genres of the 10s. There's plenty of minimal techno, UK Bass, etc. etc. for you to listen to if you don't like experimental stuff.

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1/?

everybody keep posting some more essential /bleep/ for me

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6/?

these are all from 2012 alone!

>>70201326
you think 2010s electronic music is bad because youre living in this era, people back in those times thought those genres were shit at first too

>>70201392
>>70201396
honestly been listenin to Ring a Bell with my friends and by myself, in both situations getting extreme rushes of energy, even happiness. I think music is as alive as always.

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Electronic music peaked in 1974

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here's a few artists that may have not been recommended yet that have different styles I find interesting. I'm not saying they're completely revolutionary pioneers that have explored previously uncharted terrain in the audible range, but they're good, and they aren't making any obvious effort to use someone else's style. May be worth checking OP.

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>>70206221
>>70203041

Avery is good but his ghost producer was Ghost Culture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFLqUHL79Pw

desu one of my favorite recent electronic albums but never gets much credit; i thought it blended acid house and synth pop perfectly,

a modern callback to 1980's minimal wave

>>70213592
is it minimal wave or is it simply electronic pond ripples?

minimal wave. come on man, you made that shit up on the fly.

>>70213777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97HW46hCWJQ minimal wave from 1984


production on this is modern

>>70201326
This album is one of my favorites. Opened my mind to a whole different idea about what music can sound like.

Not joking

Go fuck yourself.

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>>70201326
>And what does the 2010's have? Vaporwave, hypnagogic pop, PC Music. Slowed-down 80's music, chipmunk eurodance and MIDI diarrhea are considered genius and the best to come from the decade, even though they would've been considered a joke had they been released in the 90's or early 00's.


You're a fucking idiot. PC Music is putting out some of the most diverse music.

I was mad enough by your post that I even unironically made an infographic to explain how intricate the entire record label is. You're just too simple-minded to understand contemporary music, Dad.

>>70214069
Yeah, it isn't that interesting. OP is an idiot, but so are you

>>70214069
what is even ironic about felicita?

>>70214429
doves

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>>70213592
damn that music sucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE9TXpb1eQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7NIUeSUvXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-RomudoedQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtKsOQPZRxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oOQs-Dsr7Q

>>70214069
PC Music is hack garbage.

>>70214646
I don't care if musicians are hacks as long as I like the music, nerd.

>>70214729
Well the music is shit kiddo.

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>>70207411

>>70214742
Have you ever eaten a delicious fast food meal and enjoyed it? Maybe you are partial to the McRib, or the Whopper, or the Chick-Fil-A Spicy Chicken Sandwich, or a Crunchwrap Supreme.

NO, DEFINITELY NOT. I know you well. For every meal you ever eat, you go to a 5-star restaurant and eat food that has been carefully crafted by an expert chef. Every flavor, every aroma, every texture, every color, every ingredient is intentional, and the dish is absolutely perfect.

When you choose to watch film, you don't enjoy low comedy or action movies. You watch superior independent artistic films.

The cars that you drive are not for economy, or for comfort, nor even for speed. You drive in only luxurious, artistically crafted cars that are perfectly engineered and tuned.

>>70214813
This is so fucking dumb, such a fucking flawed line of thought right there and I'm not even the guy you're talking to

>>70215124
You don't have to think my argument is good. You just have to enjoy it for its aesthetic value.

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>>70215311
totally different anon here but the way it was spaced really let the argument breathe. Nice capitalized letters WITHOUT exclamation points as well. It really let the reader know you objected, but you didn't come across as sounding desperate at all either. Overall it was a lush, well-crafted argument that was really easy on the eyes. Good work.

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>>70201326
whatabout this op?

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>>70216714
try this one if you don't know it

cvn - matters

>>70215311
wow, rekt

>>70201997
Emptyset & Jam City are hella good. Although Emptyset's newer stuff has been meh, but their s/t is amazing

why the fuck does nicolas jaar never come up in these threads

>>70217120
he's good man

we need to get /bloop/ going as a regular thing again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uluhmN_1_k

>>70214792
mental masturbation the comic. not realistic at all

>>70217120
he sucks man, literally pretty boy getting sucked off by p4k for his nice sounding music with zero substance

>>70201326
peak bleeps and bloops was 2011 - 2014
stfu nerd

>>70203099
>sandstorm

Nice

>>70217325
>he said, before going on to never make anything of merit for the rest of his entire life
ill take ur word for it

ricky eat acid?

>>70206623
I think R+7 is his best but GoD is still really good and his 2nd best.

The text to speech was kind of cringy to me at first but he plays with the chipspeech parameters so much that it makes for a really cool effect. And the rhythms and intensity are really unmatched for him.

Atmospherically, it's a bit less consistent and conceptual, I think (minus voice samples of children or children-sounding aliens), unlike some of his past work, but from a technical perspective it's extremely satisfying and hard-hitting to me.

>>70201454
Man, /mu/ post quality has gone down the shitter.

>>70216806
thanks brah-brah

will check

>>70206832
>its a shitty album, made by taking metal compositions and throwing them into midi and adding on some Korg pads.

I'm 99% sure he composed everything himself, from scratch, with MIDI keyboards and some synths. He's only "taking metal compositions" in the same way any artist is inspired by any genre.

Literally the only genre not at it's all time low right now is electronic and hip hop

wew lads

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>>70218195
rap is probably in the worst slump it's ever been in. Where are all the good rappers and great albums at the moment? Rap is over 40 years old now and starting to show it. Not as bad as rock is right now, but the same themes, production methods, cadences, etc. are being exhausted.

I probably come across as being offensive but honestly, who are your top five rappers right now? favorite albums? and favorite producers?

>>70218295
Atrocity Exhibition is pretty interesting. But yeah, the genre as a whole is kind of stagnating.

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>>70218207
bitch you can't come in here and not argue something. Where do you stand on this little factoid?

cause bitch I'm for it

>>70218375
cmon man, not here

>>70218328
I'll agree that Atrocity Exhibition had some great, original sounding production. I like Danny due to his versatility and and ability to change voice and change energy. But really AE was, lyrically and thematically, another Danny Brown album, minus the story telling or humor found on past releases. It was shilled into something it wasn't, unfortunately. Still though, it was a good rap album overall.

I sort of agree with OP on this but not entirely. While a lot of the electronic music I listen to comes from artists who started in the 90s and 2000s, I'd argue that there have been plenty of great releases in the past 6-7 years. Its just that many of those artists were already active before 2010. When I look at my collection in discogs, I see many great releases from 2010 and later, but few artists that started after 2010. I think that electronic/dance/whatever is just so overcrowded from an overall release standpoint that plenty of gems from new artists get ignored or achieve minor recognition because of the glut of older more popular artists dropping a single or album every few months.

tl;dr: there's already a shit ton of music out there and the internet just makes it easier to find all of it

>>70206376
>NAAFI

they are shite, fuck lao, pretentious spic cunt

>>70217120
he's bland as fuck

>>70201997
Literally this

You lose OP

>>70205176
>outsiser house
>"quality movement"
literally just derivative house music with low pass filters

seriously how is this a "quality movement"?

>>70218803
None of those artists are good.

>>70218824
Wut music you like, troll?
F me for responding to a bait.

>>70218844
I don't listen to shitty Boomkat flavour of the months, that's for sure.

People actually like Lobster Therememe?

>>70218875
Hi John Twells. :-)

>>70218912
lol, like I'd write for a shitty publication like Fact...

I'm relieved to see other people saying 2010+ has sucked massive chode for music.

>>70218875
Lol okay what do you listen to

>>70214813
>yea man music and eating are like, totally the same thing

fucking idiot

>>70219014
Better shit.

>>70214813
wew...

>>70207016
there is literally nothing wrong with sporkcore

>>70211338
>IDM more avant-garde than glitch
Fucking shitter.

>>70207416
>who the fuck thinks music has to revolve around artists and albums
only every single artist you've probably ever listened to

arca is better than any electronic artist of the past 20 years

>>70207387
"yes"

>>70219641
Thats not OPN...

>all the ra-core itt

Pan is shit desu, esp MESH

>>70206221
source?

All music is shit nowadays

>>70219794
lewronggeneration

>>70219641
lol

>>70219672
>>70219827

>>70219641
>gay autechre
>good

>>70219672
>tumblr new age
>good

>>70211579
fuck off

>>70219850
>autechre
>straight

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>>70219878
the infamous "slammin tropical jams" tour in latin america confirmed their heterosexuality

the recommendations in this thread prove that the 2010's have indeed been the worst decade for electronic music thus far

welp

>>70219808
I know right? It's 2017 already. Like, ugh man.