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>no brass/woodwind thread Why is tuba a best?

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>no brass/woodwind thread

Why is tuba a best?
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tin whistle master race
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>>70010072
you mean why is euphonium the best?
>inb4 shitty anime memes
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>>70011146
A
FUCKING
MINI TUBA
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How do I get into playing a wind instrument? I've played guitar with a few bands but I want to try something new.
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>>70010072
You misspelled baritone sax
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>>70011390
>get a fingering chart (memorize!)
>look up correct embouchure (it's usually more complex than just put mouth on mouthpiece and blow)
>do lots of long tones to hone your tone quality and to practice breathing which is especially important if you've never played a wind instrument before
>plunk away at Twinkle Twinkle Little Star
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>>70011444
Once I learn to play how can I find gigs?
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>>70011390
Woodwinds?

Depends. You can start with Flute but it takes you too much air (second to tuba)

Clarinet is good
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Sorry, only the objectively best instrument coming through.
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>>70011478
Don't know but brass bands exist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5QWuTAUsfg
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>>70011498
No, brass. I'd like to learn either euphonium or trumpet
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>>70010072
Check out

The Gate - Island Virus
Drums and Tuba - everything
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>>70011531
Trumpet is nice and loud.. Euphoniums have the most soothing sound. Sax is nice if you want jazz
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>>70011511
Oh yeah, you're so awesome blowing air and moving your fingers.

That's it. No reeds or anything. Barely any effort if you have good air support. And that's not good.
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>>70011590
>implying making fart sounds are any good
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>>70011528
how fun, good performers and musicians
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>>70011511
Gay.
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>>70011531
Play Bass Trombone! You don't play much, but when you do it's fun!
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>>70011567
How much is a beginner tier euphonium?
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reed instruments are objectively superior to puckerhorns and sideways recorders
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>>70011665
Quite expensive desu.

Which is why you dont see normies buying brass/woodwind instruments
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>>70011665
Head to craigslist or a similar site to find out how it is rn. (Sorry I don't know the price range but that's where I think you have the best bet of finding out)
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>>70011665
Dont know how much a eupho costs but I bought a used trumpet in a very good condition at 260 USD (Yamaha Silver plated)
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>>70011665
absolute bottom entry tier euphos run $300-400
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>>70011821
That's not too bad, is a teacher a must have for the euphonium or will books and the internet be fine?
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>>70011872
Internet is fine. You can find all sorts of videos like on instrument maintenance, how tos and donts
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>>70011888
Cool, looks like I'll be getting a euphonium then.
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>>70011872
internet has everything you need, tutorial, theory, sight reading.. remember to look at other players for examples too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf2uYqDX8QA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N73OwyjozzA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkKCY_pCPi8
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>>70011962
Most of the euphoniums I'm seeing online around me are Bb, I'm new to wind instruments so is that a good or bad thing. Are there any important thing a I should look out for when buying one?
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>>70012054
It just means it's tuned to Bb. As in, a C on the euphonium is a Bb on a piano. I think there are euphoniums tuned to C though, might be easier to get one of those.
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>>70012054
Common Euphos are Bb
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>>70010072
Trombone obviously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwWQUXnD0oo
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>>70010072
>Trump playing tuba
>not a trumpet
The joke was right fucking there and they still messed it up
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>>70012184
lol enjoy playing long 16th-note passages (unless the composer takes pity on you)

>>70012351
ha, didn't even notice
'tuba' is Latin for 'trumpet', though
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>>70012676
Only plebs wouldn't enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGgUK2s-sqA
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>>70012351
Too easy
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these bitches love sousa
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Bassoon literally master race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtiwaeWe_6M
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>>70013283
Or a marching tuba
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>>70013338
>no normalfag could ever afford this kind of instrument

Nice
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>>70013661
Are you really so poor you don't have $20,000 for a low-middle tier bassoon? Disgusting!
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Why are Trumpeters the most annoying?
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>>70013283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs4P1kKK-5k
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>>70012701
What slide grease does he use
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>>70011387
EX
ACTLY
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>>70010072
Double Reed Slide Trumpet is the bet
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>>70010072
You're wrong, friendo.
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>>70010072
i stopped playing euphonium 8 years ago. I had a low/medium level, I could play what I wanted, but not hardcore tunes, and I had difficulty reaching high notes.

I never went past a step. I blocked like 2-3 years without improving.

Should I consider going back ?
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>>70016298
You should
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>>70012054
If you plan on playing in any sort of wind or brassband, Bb euph is the best. It's the most common too.
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>>70010072
Fucking Tubists.

All they ever talk about is lead pipes and mouthpieces
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>>70016270
Stupid trombone can only play star wars theme
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>>70011390
I can't exactly speak to woodwind, but it's almost impossible to teach yourself a brass instrument. You don't necessarily need lessons, but you need someone you can talk to with some regularity and someone to get you started.
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>>70017740
Hey everyone! This guy doesn't listen to Wagner!
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>>70017751
Arent youtube vids enough? There's a fuckton of them with tips from professionals
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>>70012054
>>70012087
This is wrong. 99.9999% of euphoniums are Bb, there are a few in different keys, but those are super rare and for people who spend too much time with euph.

Euphonium is a non transposing instrument in bass clef. Lot's of trumpet players switch to euph and if you transpose it into Bb you can read it just like trumpet music. Most euph music in bass clef so you should just read that.

>>70017776
It's not like guitar or bass, there's so many things going on in a brass instrument. To make it worse, most of them involve your lips and lungs, which you can't see like you could your fingers on guitar. The mastery curve on any instrument is more or less the same, but the learning curve on a brass instrument is really fucking high. I've been playing brass instruments for over 10 years and I'm convinced the human body does not naturally want to have anything to do with playing brass and it's only through very deliberate work we can force it to actually work.
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>ctrl + f "tenor sax"
>0 of 0

fucking degenerates.
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>>70017877
I dont have a grasp of transposing

What I know is, a written C on a trumpet sounds Bb on a piano.

But what if I make it sound like C in a trumpet instead?
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You are all wrong, bass clarinet is best
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>>70017883
the best instrument bruh
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>>70017918
So it doesn't really matter unless you wanna play a transposing instrument or compose, but here's the short answer.

Back in the day people use to play trumpets in multiple keys like Bb C D and Eb (some classical pros still do). So if you play the open notes on Bb you get Bb F Bb D on C you'd get C G C E. Now since using the same fingerings on different keyed instruments gets you different notes people started transposing the music.

What this means is that composers move the the notes around by some interval so that the player can just play the they know, but the music that comes out ends up being in a different key then what they're actually reading.

Now there isn't a great reason trumpet players transpose anymore, besides the fact that they've don it for too long to stop now. However sax players will actually usually play multiple saxes which can be in different keys and it makes their lives so much easier with the transposition. They don't have to think about different fingerings if they're playing alto or tenor.
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>>70018113
But Bb Trumpets sound C G C E when Open
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>>70018142
Not in concert pitch, that's the transposing notes.
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>>70018166
It still confuses me.

I can still read music sheets and play notes on the trumpet and not sound different from what was written, right?
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>>70011567
>>70011665
>>70011689
Get a Chinese bass trumpet
I got one for about 250 and its great
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>>70018203
Shitty deal.

Got a used yamaha on a very good condition, no dents, little to none scratches, no tarnish on the silver plate and valves still smooth for only 260
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>>70018197
You're playing what's written and it's correct, but you and a piano player or guitar player can't read the same thing and play the same line.

All you notes are up by a whole step. When you play a C scale you're actually playing a Bb scale on the piano. So when you play an E it sounds the same as a D on the piano ect.
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>>70018309
So if I did a C scale on a Bb Trumpet, it doesn't sound like a C scale on a piano?

Would a pitch tuner read it as Bb?
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>>70018353
Nope. If you play a C scale on a Bb trumpet it's a Bb scale a pitch tuner would read it as a Bb scale. I was using piano as the "objective" instrument since it's all laid out and doesn't transpose, but thinking about it as a pitch tuner works too.
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>>70018467
I think I got a better grasp of it now

Does one need to adjust when accompanied by a piano?
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>>70018544
Not unless you're actually reading the same line on the same sheet of paper. In a duet setting your music will be transposed and the piano's will be in concert pitch.
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>>70018728
So written E D C in a piano will be written as F# E D in a trumpet sheet?
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Used to play tuba in high school, even got to travel/play around Europe a few weeks doing it. If I hadn't "2punk4this" at 17 or 18 or started smoking, I was actually considering going to college for it. I wonder how much money playing in a decent orchestra would be worth.
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>>70017883
Baritone sax or gtfo
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>>70017944
>an off color sax
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>>70018866
That's correct.
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>>70014009
Because we're loud, directly in your ear, and poasibly tone-deaf.
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>>70017740
>Stupid trombone can only play star wars theme
You are suposed to compose your own songs and not get the instrument thinking, "hey i will play someone else music"
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how do brass instruments work? do you just blow the air into the thing and control the pitch with the buttons?
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>>70020327
ITT: weebs coming into a thread they asking newbie questions because of a shitty anime.
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>>70020738
>one post matches description
>ITT
also 4chan is an anime imageboard, newfriend
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>>70020327
All sounds depend on a vibration, this is produced by the vibrating of your lips and the mouthpiece. This wavelength is then controlled by where you let the air escape, which is controlled by buttons
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>>70020781
No, there is a BOARD for anime. 4chan isn't ALL ABOUT anime you fucking weeb
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>>70020810
can you change the pitch by simply changing the position/posture of your tongue?
>>70020834
stay triggered newfriend
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>>70020855
look it up faggot we aren't your google sensei or whatever the fuck you call it
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How much would a teacher for the euphonium cost?
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>>70017944
>bass clar
that was my shit in middleschool thanks for the memories senpai
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>>70020810
This is a retarded explanation. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>70020327
Basically, you produce sound by first creating a resonating frequency with your lips and the mouthpiece through vibration-- but this is not the source of the sound. The sound is made by air resonating with the metal of the instrument. The valves control the pitch by changing the effective length of the instrument-- longer travel = lower pitch, which is why tubas are lower pitched than trumpets. Pushing a valve redirects the air into a tube, lowering the pitch by a set amount depending on the valve pressed (by 2 half steps for the first, one for the 2nd and 3 for the third). If you want to go higher, you raise your tongue in your mouth to go up to the next overtone in the series (read physics of music, I'm not going into this). By doing this, you change the angle of attack of the air and produce a higher frequency waveform in the tubes of the instrument. Some people will say you use "faster air". This is wrong, "faster air" is a misnomer, you can't actually change air velocity in the vacuum you create between your lips and the instrument.

Source: used to be a huge trumpet nerd for 8 years, took many many many science classes, have graduate degree
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>>70022068
he's basically correct though, mr. graduate degree science class man
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>>70011531
Euphonium is a good instrument, but you won't use it outside of wind band.
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>>70011665
Go to your nearest substantial music store and rent one for a few months to see if you like it. If you want to buy one, shop around. Having a teacher help you would be a good idea.
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