Theory

im too busy listening to a song that's I-vi-ii6-V on repeat

I'm too fucking lazy

Because it would only stifle my creativity.

>>70008271
Because Theory 2 isn't till Mid January. I'm on holiday break.

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>>70008271
School killed my ability to find studying enjoyable, and/or I'm a lazy bastard. I know major/(harmonic)minor/diminished/whole tone scales and some chords already, and can get by with that for my own purposes (individualist/personal electronic and guitar music, both with a lot of extreme metal influence), although I know learning more would probably benefit me. What would you recommend, specifically, to learn?
>>70008324
I thought this was true, but it's probably pretty meme. Writing music with scales as opposed to writing by ear is like ten times faster and allows you to get a result you probably want anyway. It might affect my ability to write ugly shit. I'm not sure. Usually when I wanna do that, I just throw my guitar way out of tune so the relationships between notes are out of whack. In computer music if I want it to be ugly I usually do some diminished stuff, really close intervals/quarter tones (only very recently), or just start clicking randomly, which I guess could be a bit stifled.

>>70008324
How so? If you know more, you won't end up creating the wheel again.

>>70008271

It seems like it's only useful if you want to compose music. Don't really know how it makes listening to music better. You can use it to explain "oh this is a F V major chord" but that just doesn't change the fact if I enjoy something or not.

>>70008271
Because I dont know how to fucking read that picture

>>70008476
>What would you recommend, specifically, to learn?
Functional analysis. It's kind of the next step when you know scales.

>>70008513
It gives new dimensions to the listening.

>>70008522
>I'm not studying because I haven't studied
Then learn. Start with scales, then functional analysis.

>>70008560

I listen to music for the emotions involved. It seems like thinking about technical crap just gets in the way.

>>70008581
I cant study what I dont understand

>>70008324
>yeah man theory is for fags man i write from THE HEART
>dicks around on guitar for thirty minutes to "come up" with a I-V-vi-IV progression

>>70008581
Know any good sites, videos, or books that simplify this shit?

Not him, but I still kick myself for not taking something music related in high school. I know most of the basic stuff is covered in elementary/grade school, but most of that I forgot about by the time I got to high school.

>>70008533
What's that?

>>70008271
since i actually want to make $$ i majored in Econ and just minored in music. Even a minor in music just gets you learning Chromatic harmony and that really doesn't get you far. learning history is far more valuable imo desu

>>70008681
plus, almost all the music majors I know are brilliant at composing but can't even play their instruments for shit. So what was all that for?

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>>70008709
>since i actually want to make $$ i majored in Econ

>>70008722
he majored in econ so that he could read the economy to decide what his second degree will be to make money with

>>70008606
It's not just "technical", and even if it was, it doesn't get in the way. For me it enhances the emotions. It's like a good story - it has layers, things that connect, a certain unpredictability, themes etc. If you learn theory, you'll comprehend those extra dimensions much easier and you'll have a greater overall-experience.

>>70008608
Google "scales basic lesson" or something. If you go by the maxim that you can't study what you do not already know about, then you'll never learn anything ever.

>>70008776
Literally English tier
>INB4 trade workers try to justify destroying their body for $12/hour

>>70008672
Look it up, man.

You can learn theory in like a day.
It's some arbitrary cultural baggage based upon 4th grade math.

The better question is why aren't you studying signal processing?

>>70008650
I honestly don't know of any sites, and the books I used were in Swedish (can't really remember the titles). I'm sure it's attainable on the web. Look for video lectures also on youtube.

>>70008895
>You can learn theory in a day
No.

>The better question
Has to do with engineering, and not music.

The better question is why aren't you studying organic chemistry?

>>70008650
http://www.musictheory.net/lessons

Also try taking a course at your local community college, and if you're going to study theory you might as well learn piano at the same time.

>>70008606
yeah you *listen* to it for the emotions. But composing it clearheaded and on a technical level allows you to think about how to affect emotions of your listeners. putting emotion into playing music is an act so that your listeners feel the emotion. it does not benefit the composer to be driven by emotions when composing or performing

>>70008910
>>70009002
thanks fellas <3

>>70008987
>signal processing has nothing to do with music
you're being willfully obtuse

>>70008650
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatonic_function

My bad, googling functional analysis (directly translated from Swedish "Funktionsanalys") gives you some math stuff with the same name. Check the article, it's pretty good.

>>70009269
I never said it had [nothing] to do with music. But you must agree, it has more to do with recording and not actually writing or playing music.

>>70008325
Have fun with secondary dominants. Hope you get it sooner than others do.

>>70009291
I have no idea what any of this is saying, but will bookmark. Thanks, bb

>>70008271
>its a half diminished 7th buts actually not XDD

>>70008324
Nah. I think it's important to be able to compose a good melody and overall song without utilizing theory but without theory you—or at least the perfectionists—will find yourself coming up short all the time. Small necessary tweaks in sound will be impossible to find. The feeling of being lost and trying repeatedly with no avail is the worst. That's what stifles creativity.

>>70009500
Well, can you read music? Most theory is kind of contingent on sheet music.

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>>70008271
I did, and Berg doesnt follow the rules of serialism.

>>70009670
Okay.

>>70008271
I already know theory. There's always more out there, but I don't learn too much new stuff anymore. I really should be digging some new stuff, but I've been lazy lately.