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Lennon-Mccartney vs Brian Wilson as songwriters?

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Who was the superior songwriter(s) from a compositional standpoint? Brian Wilson can (IMO) stand up to a Lennon or Mccartney alone easily, but when they're together, i don't know. Brian wrote some amazing songs, but can he beat Paperback Writer/Rain or Penny Lane/SFF?
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>>69843807
Lennon-McCartney ez
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bumperion
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Lennon-Macca didn't write CabinEssence.
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To me:


Lennon > Mccartney > Wilson

However..

Beach Boys > Beatles
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>>69843807
McCartney > Wilson >>> Lennon
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>>69844317
how does that make sense
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>>69844409
Plastic Ono band is one of my favorite records ever, and John's songs usually were both poignantly beautiful and had an impact on the World at large.

However Beatles Albums for me are pretty hit or miss. Mccartney definetely had his fair share of immaculate tunes though

The Beach Boys records and overall sound to me sounded more refined and defined, which has nothing necessarily to do with the songwriting of Brian, as much as it was the group being honed in and on the same page creatively.
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>>69844564
>the group being honed in and on the same page creatively.
kek
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McCartney because Lennon is dead and Wilson will die on Christmas day if dubs.
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Wilson>McCartney=Lennon
How is this debatable?
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>>69843807
As a whole The Beatles are the greater band but in terms of songwriting Brian was on a completely different level than Lennon-McCartney. Harmonically his songs were far more complex than theirs and he didn't have to rely on his producer/bandmates to compose arrangements for him.
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>>69845366
>Harmonically his songs were far more complex than theirs
Examples?
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>>69846025
Surf's Up
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>brian
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>>69846025
Some of the earlier stuff, the majority of Pet Sounds/SMiLE and some of the later stuff. A few examples:

>Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
>Dm, Dm7, Dm6/F, E7, Gm6/Bb, A7+, Dm7/C, Bm7b5, Bbm6, F/A, Gm7
>C7, Gm7, C7, Gm7, Eb9, Bbm7, F+/A, Bbm6
>C/G, Fm6/Ab, Eb/G, Gdim, F/A, Bbm6, F/C, C7

>God Only Knows
>D/A, Bm6, F#m, B7, E/B, Cdim, E/B, A#mb5, A, E/G#, F#m7

>I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
>Gm7/C, Bbadd9, Ab9, Dm7/G, Gm7/C, Bbadd9, Ab9, Dm7/G, G7b9, Eb, Eb/F, Dm7, Gm7, Dm7/G, G7b9

>'Til I Die
>Abmaj7, Cm/Bb, Bb, C, Cm/Bb, Bb, Cmaj7, Fmaj7/C, F6/C, Bm, Cmaj7, Em9, Gmaj7
>G, Bbmaj7, Ebmaj7, D, G
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