Not the Actual Events... It's Broken 2.0 Get ready motherfuckers.

>>69831795
I've been waiting too long for this man to truly return to form, it's a bit hard to believe

>>69831795
> Broken 2.0
no its not
> Downward Spiral 2.0 is incoming.
no its not

Other way round. Hesitation Marks is the link to The Downward Spiral, NTAE links to Broken. Next album will link to Pretty Hate Machine.

>>69831825
fuck off you autist

>>69831852
name one way in which NTAE relates to broken 2.0
Also hesitation marks was the Downward spiral 2.0 if anything

Broken was the most rocknroll NIN has and will ever be. It sounds nothing like NTAE.

And desu, I was pretty hyped when I heard Burning Bright but then I listened to NTAE and just sounded like typical clean cut NIN era and I was pretty disappointed.

I'm still waiting for something actually harsh and intense from Reznor and if he never wants to make that kind of music again it's fine but won't ever as good as it was when he was on drugs and depression.

Hesitation Marks = phm
NTAE = Broken
??? = Downward Sprial

>>69831915
the next LP whatever its called

our boy is back baby

>>69831915
>>69831852
>>69831795
im baffled as to how you think its like Broken, please explain

>>69831891
Reznor wins awards for his soundtrack work now and fucks his hot wife every night. There is no existential angst left in him and that's ok. Every new NIN release from now on is akin to a middle-aged dad jamming 70s rock in his garage with fellow middle-aged dads.

Is it any good?

>>69831915
>Hesitation Marks = phm
see
>>69831841
>>69831870

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I'm getting a serious fucking How To Destroy Angels / The Fragile vibe from "She's Gone Away"

Goddamn Mariqueen is fucking haunting to listen to. I am so incredibly proud of Reznor for not getting a Yoko 2.0 like I feared.

>>69831973

I don't feel the same way. Hesitation Marks reminds me of Pretty Hate machine. Trent had just come back from a long hiatus. He tried a new sound, which he has incorporated bits and pieces into this EP

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>>69831987
mariqueen is hot af

I've never listened to NIN or anything Trent Reznor before, is it okay to just dive in with this or do I have to start at the beginning?

>>69832048
id suggest starting from the fragile then maybe listen to with teeth or hesitation marks beforehand

But if you're impatient i guess you wont really lose anything if you jump right into it

>>69832048
Just give the new EP a listen, its pretty good. But be sure to also listen to his 90s stuff some time.

>>69832066
>>69832085
thanks anons, I am pretty impatient so I'm just going to give this a quick spin

>>69832048
Just follow the releases chronological and stop after the Fragile
>Pretty Hate Machine
>Broken
>The Downward Spiral
>The Fragile
>Not The Actual Events

>>69832100
alright, hope you like it

>>69832100
Be sure to listen to it a couple times over

>>69832113
nice, I'll follow this when I get done with the EP

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>>69832182

It's a good starter, but don't disregard WITH_TEETH, Year Zero, The Slip, Ghosts or Hesitation Marks just because they aren't classic Nine Inch Nails. They're all good and are a very good mirror into what was going on in the mind Reznor at the time.

If you ignore the Sober Reznor era like the Manson poster suggested, you'll end up doing yourself a great disservice.

New EP sounds like buried vocals underneath noise with a couple boring riffs here and there.

Lazy and unimpressive, what happened to Trent?

>>69832258
I've always thought Reznor looked weird as shit when he was younger but he looks great these days. I wonder if Manson could look good if he dropped the act. I think he's just naturally ugly.

Also interested in how Robert Smith would look if he tried to look more normal.

>>69832258
this

Also, Antichrist Superstar and Niggy Tardust are essential Reznorcore that shouldn't be missed.

>>69832277
Yea, it feels like he's trying way too hard with this one.

that EP was pretty fucking good all the way through I'm starting to understand the hype, I'm just starting from the beginning and going all the way through his discog

>>69832466
Pro-Tip: Don't leave out the remix albums, there's a lot of gold on Fixed and Further Down The Spiral.

>>69832600

And Still

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>when The Idea of You comes on

>tfw Atticus Ross is what Reznor wished Richard Patrick and, to a lesser extent, Marilyn Manson could have been to him 20 years ago

This was the musical bromance we always deserved.

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>>69832713

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Pigface revival 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl9_enhs9ro

>>69832795
Haha I remember Pigface. Come to think of it, Reznor is the only guy from that scene who's still relevant, no? Al Jourgensen is a fucking joke and has been for over a decade now. I don't even know what's up with Skinny Puppy, are they still doing shit? What I heard of their post-reunion stuff sounded rather boring. KMFDM were never good in the first place.

>>69832875

Skinny Puppy broke up in the mid 90's adter Kevin died. They came back in 2000 for a reunion and released some work which wasn't good. Then after they found out their music was being used as torture material, they sued the US government for 666 thousand dollars and released a new album which is actually pretty kick ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNiXrSH0t4

>>69832875
>KMFDM were never good in the first place.

Woah, really? Why do you think that? UAIOE is still pretty good, along with Nihil. I agree they still keep making the same boring shit since the early/mid 00s over and over again, because rivetheads still eat that shit up to this day.

>>69832965

Dwayne ODed. oops.

>>69832965
Sounds pretty mediocre desu but maybe it's just me. Not into the whole (post-)industrial as much anymore as I used to be.

>>69832973
idk I guess their brand of industrial rock was just never my thing

Thoughts on this so far?

The Idea of You is a *fun* track. I don't know how I feel about the rest of it, but I expected that. I didn't fall head over heels for TDS or HM immediately.

>>69832973
>rivetheads

are they still a thing?

>>69833098
Fair enough.

>>69833144
You can thanks to Metropolis Records for that.

>>69833126
It's pretty good but for how noisy and aggressive it is, I feel like it lacks the manic intensity needed to make it fully work. Burning Bright sounds like Godflesh without the punch, the guitars in The Idea of You are too clean, etc. Not to mention Trent's reserved vocal performance.

btw did anyone notice that Burning Bright nicks the riff from Nietzsche by the Dandy Warhols?

>http://pitchfork.com/news/70576-nine-inch-nails-to-release-two-new-major-works-in-2017/

even more new NIN next year. Yay!

>>69832289
>>69832289
>Also interested in how Robert Smith would look if he tried to look more normal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NERzLlHo-D0

>>69832048
Don't listen to this guy >>69832113 okay?

Just about all of Trent's NIN work is decent to great. Year Zero is one of my favorite albums.

>>69833479

The Warning -> God Given -> Meet Your Master is quite possibly the best trio of songs ever.

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Peter Murphy duets pls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amMztp1y4i4

>>69833126
first of all it's immediately more enjoyable on a second listen.
the tracklist also seems to go pretty consistently from songs that sound more similar to hesitation marks/the slip to.. whatever sound they're heading to. it feels like a dip into the water of what's coming next as far as a full-length release.

did anyone else listen to the interview on apple music?

>>69833643
god given is probably my least favourite track on year zero, but meet your master is definitely my favourite.

>>69833723

I like God Given because of its placement. It's right after The Warning and God Given is the panic that ensues.

>>69832258
young manson was good looking, he definitely grew out of his looks though. maybe if he got rid of that flabby neck
vid related
https://youtu.be/yVpw1SwJRBI

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We're going to get the Downward Spiral 2.0 release and on April 1st. Strobe light is coming.

>>69832875

I remember back in the days when puppy fans would shit talk trent saying he's a sellout and that his music is washed out and mainstream.


Never understood why even though SP only had a few tracks that I ever liked. then it dawned on me, SP fans back in the day were the edgy losers of the day and mocked anyone who broke out into wider popularity.

alas, in time people realized which group was shit and which artist actually had evolving talent and stayed relevant.

>>69833978

I'm a pretty new Skinny Puppy fan. I can only imagine how butthurt the OG fans are about it, and so while I associate myself with the music, I do not with the fanbase.

The problem with bands are that you need to have a common direction between the members.They die as well. Reznor did things right keeping it a one man project until now when he doesn't have much to risk and was rewarded for it.

>>69834067

He was a one man band because he was a one man freak of a talent. I think that speaks so much volume about this greatness. he did it all himself and stayed true to his convictions and that is what lead to his reward.

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>>69833978

Another thing, even today Al talks shit (in sort of a grandpa lovingly shit talk way). Nivek not so much. I think the problem was Trent was the new guy compared to them and to them he was bottom of the totem pole.

Then Broken, TDS and Woodstock 94 happened and they were all left in the dust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGinP2u5wus

>All these douchebags trying to suck up to him

>>69833895
>that image
trent is the ultimate 4chan troll, a real life shitposter.
that april fools joke was so fucking funny, i remember my sides being in orbit due to all those insane fake songtitles and features
>we will never hava maynard james keenan and justin timberlake on a song together

where do you know the release dates from? that you trent?

>>69834188
>we will never hear pussygrinder

feels bad man

>>69833126

They're pushing Burning Bright as the "single" when it's the only unique song of the EP. Everything else sounds like bsides of HM and The Slip era. And it sounds boring unfortunately.

But Burning Bright is so good though. I just wish he let go of the ego and bit stop putting the vocals so fucking forward in the mix. They end up drowning out the noisy instrumentals.

I mean if my listening to industrial/noise it's because I'm into the textures. I want to listen to the noisy textures of the sound and shit.

IMO the progressive focus on vocals is a big part of the lame-amication of modern NIN.

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>She's Gone Away

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>>69834188

>tfw no Laid, Paid and Played (featuring Al Jorgussen and Fergie)

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>>69834319

>That Mariqueen backing vocal

Where were you when you realized this is a better John and Yoko then the original John and Yoko

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>>69832289
>I wonder if Manson could look good if he dropped the act. I think he's just naturally ugly.

>>69831795
More like The Slip 2.0 but ok

Quit fucking saying this sounds like Broken. This sounds like The Slip.

>>69832875
KMFD's What Do You Know and Money were fucking great. They were really unique up til Angst and it went downhill after there.

>>69832965
new SP is awful as ever since Last Rights. They really need to quit doing that glitch bullshit. Cevin Key has all these amazing synths in his studio yet SP churn out digital sounding garbage.

>>69831825

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>life is so difficult and sad

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>Godflesh and NIN missed their chance to cross paths in the 90's and collab on at least a remix
feels bad man. maybe in an alternate universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyJV8J9INg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwSB22EnweQ
tell me this shit doesn't sound far off from Broken.

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>>69834752

Good thing he's not still writing The Downward Spiral over and over again

>>69831795
>broken 2.0

have you ever listened to broken? jesus christ fucking autists

>>69834798
that would be the best what the FUCK are you talking about? he peaked with the downward spiral

>>69831987
>yoko 2.0
>one man band

i swear....

>>69834779
iirc trent ask justin to join nin as touring member in the 90s. not sure how legit that story is though

>>69834798
Atticus is the back
>"Hey ladies watch this magik trick"

>>69833643
Frail > wretched > fragile

Reminder that asian gfs are the most patrician gfs

>>69835014
you mean we're in this together

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>>69834936
nah that was Faith No More and Danzig. FNM honestly might've been awesome but Justin was too shy to tour with big bands. I know for sure he crossed paths with Ministry but both parties were too busy to get together for anything. Godflesh opened for Skinny Puppy in the early 90's. Must've been wild.

>>69833895
This will never not be fucking hilarious.

>>69834798
>Atticus literally stroking his Oscar in front of grills

>>69834221
>I just wish he let go of the ego and bit stop putting the vocals so fucking forward in the mix.
Except they really feel more in the background on this EP?

>>69834779
Trent/Justin collab would be GOAT

>>69836785
Especially on Burning Bright. Fuck is that guy talking about?

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>Yes, everyone seems to be asleep

>>69834221
>I just wish he let go of the ego and bit stop putting the vocals so fucking forward in the mix.

They're drowned in the muddy shitmix. He does sound fucking annoying with the breathy shit and the hhnngggaa trails behind every other word tho.

I love NIN, but Hesitation Marks and this EP did nothing for me

Feels bad man.

Meanwhile, Year Zero has grown to be a classic in my book.

>>69834620
well that's not bad looking at all.

Burning Bright is cool
Everything else seems trash

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What do I buy? wav or flac ??

Do you think the physical component will actually be something more that abstract minimal paintings booklet?
You are hyping to dangerous levels.. My body wasn't ready.

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>tfw musicians are at their best when they are one step before suicide with depress and drugs

>>69837276
>buying digital files
lel

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Does anybody remember a fan mad Bluray of NIN concerts that was announced in like 2010?
..I still haven't got the bluray or a refund.

I just can never shake the feeling that I've had for a long time that I'll ever hear a TR record that's actually GREAT like the first two while he's 'happy'. That he's married with children doesn't help.

There's the slightest feeling of stagnation. Of insincerity.

Hesitation Marks felt sincere, way much more so than anything since With Teeth. It just wasn't as great a record as something like The Downward Spiral musically.

This....I don't know yet.

Anybody know when the Patriots Day soundtrack will be released?

also, how do you feel about his soundtrack work?

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>infected Japanese

what did he mean by this?

>>69835143
Nin and Ministry got together on 1000 Homo Djs.

Check out Supernaut.

>>69837426
January.

'For your consideration' promo leak is circulating online now though.

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>>69832048

None of the responses anyone in this thread could give you would be correct.

You're essentially talking about a guy who's been three or four different guys throughout his whole music career.

NIN is a big umbrella.

At the beginning of it is a really, really great pop record that rivals Violator, then literally one of the greatest albums of all time that easily stacks aside Loveless and OK Computer in a list of "most important 90's rock albums" with almost no missteps, insane production and the best cinematic-like portrayal of the 'industrial' rock sound since Thirlwell's Nail, then you have an incredibly flawed double album with a lot of great music and inaccessible/poor lyricism and structure that can't be fixed because it takes its strengths simultaneously from its weaknesses.

After that, you've got a lot of GOOD music from a band with a lot of variety and a tendency to change sound from release to release really well, but it's just that. Good. It's not The Downward Spiral. There will never be "Downward Spiral 2.0", nor would it have anything to do with the sound of the record. I'm kind of surprised anyone said that.
Wherever you "dive in" is kind of irrelevant, so I'd just go chronologically like everyone else.

Whatever you do, listen to the first two albums and the first EP.

>>69837291
>tfw no kt to watch me make music

>>69837531
>really great pop record that rivals Violator,

That's nearly as retarded as saying Joy Division was a good band.

>>69837547

I don't really give a shit about arguing subjectives on 4chan enough anymore to say anything other than "no" in response to your opinion.

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>US store $12
>UK store £12

I mean...come on. [spoiler]I bought it anyways [/spoiler]
>Buying digital music
>Not giving moneys to musicians you really like without label companies

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>>69837621
But there are some things I don't like.
We used to be able to download all formats, unlimited times at the store.
Now the thing says I can only get flac and "3 downloads remaining".

THREE DOWNLOADS.

>>69837621
US store broken re-release is $25, UK its £35 lol. Thanks TrentReznor

Also I'm 3gb into the deviations download and my phone is as full as can be and there's nothing left I can delete. Will get on my desktop soon but I was up until gone 5 listening to the EP

>>69837395

He did say that the music in the EP was inaccessable and it was just something he needed to get out. Perhaps he was busy being a dad, realized 2016 hadf flown by before his eyes and had an oh shit moment and quickly dumped out a few demos.

>>69832347
>Niggy Tardust
I have listened to this many many times but I still don't get it.

>>69837531

When I say Downward Sprial 2.0, I'm not suggesting it's going to be a repeat. I'm saying it will be a repeat of the mega success TDS had.

>>69837621
I'm willing to pay but I find it kind of arrogant to talk about "coming to appreciate physical media" and then not having a CD release, which is how I buy most of what I buy and also how I distribute most of my own music, with really nice digipacks and artwork.

The records I've been given as gifts usually remain unopened if they've been opened. I don't care to experience the ritual of listening to something on a turntable. I'd rather just have it as lossless audio on my PMP.

CDs are where I've obtained that audio for a long time. I don't pay for any streaming service, nor do I believe I ever will.

I'm sure in 20 years, after cassettes have made another comeback and fall, we'll see CD releases...may be even something like SACD or Blu-Ray audio or just any CD-like format that's popular with a bunch of people born way after its introduction, but right now it feels kind of shitty.

Even when I didn't like the album, I didn't buy a bunch of copies of Tomorrow's Harvest digitally to support Boards of Canada. I bought CDs and then eventually ones of Geogaddi until I'd made up for everything obscure/out of print that wouldn't support them in any way and handed the extra copies around.

I'm not going to pay extra for a format that somehow costs more than it used to now and I'm not going to buy the "physical component" until I know what it is/do another DIY CD for my collection. I guess I'll buy a copy of Hesitation Marks yet again and just torrent this one.

I guess with the death of What.CD we've finally left the age where being able to very quickly rip/manage your own music library is over. Everything has to be subscribed to and instant, heard on a phone hooked up to some shitty portable speakers. With all that in mind, I'm not sure why hi-res audio even matters anymore. I'm inclined to believe most sales there come from people - mostly non-musicians - who still think they can hear some huge difference in 24/96 audio even though 24/48 is fine.

Last Heard From from Deviations might me the most disturbing track Trent has ever recorded. It's literally just him moaning/yelling in vocoder with drones in the background

>>69837690
I understand that.

I also don't believe it will come from Trent Reznor. It'll probably come from a fan of his work, in a totally different form, with a totally different crowd to eat it up.

>>69831952
Agreed, except for the part about Mariqueen being attractive in any way whatsoever.

Coming from someone who really, really likes Asian girls, that's truly saying something. I can't stand her. Not on Alice Glass levels of "I can't stand her" but still. It's not her voice, like most people who hate on her for little to no reason feel. A lot of the "faux Reznor mask" either she chose to do or he had her do with HTDA, couple with how she'd do that and then bounce on over and be a typical user of social media is such a turnoff.

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>>69835039

>>69837673
Deviations 320kbps when/where?

>>69837878
Not really interested in hearing this in particular because of the way it's all been compiled very similarly to that prior instrumental release but yeah, re: everything - I'm surprised nobody's put up links in here yet.

At the very least someone dropbox the EP.

>>69837846
>except for the part about Mariqueen being attractive in any way whatsoever.
you gay as shit. Even if she has a mutant face, her body is completely solid. It more than makes up for her mongoloid face.

>>69837846
talk louder or leave the closet

>>69837895
I have a shitty Fragile Instrumental and an even shitier Downward Spiral one.
I don't even know if they are official releases.

>>69837914
TF was an apple music exclusive last year
TDS might be the one from remix.nin.com (now defunct), does it have Big Man?

>>69837899
>you gay as shit
Whatever.
>mutant face
Nah, she looks fine. Her body...I haven't even given it enough thought to talk about why she is/isn't incompatible with my preferences. Probably because it's her personality that bothers me, equally so in whatever band that was she was part of beforehand where she was a little crazy, and not in a good way.

I'm not sure how those two fit together but whatever, it's not my relationship.

>>69837902
Oh, sorry. I'm super gay. I fucking love dudes!

I still find it hilarious that people don't get that this is no longer provocative or offensive to anybody but skinny, short straight dudes who grew up in some kind of repressive environment where they have to CONSTANTLY assert that they're not gay. Makes absolutely no sense, you think that everyone noticing them with women would be enough.

>>69837949
> I fucking love dudes!

great song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3PTf7vCXLY

>>69837914
The Fragile one, which you can get a good 320kbps version of, was not really released. It was on Beats music. People have since uploaded it elsewhere.

The Downward Spiral...I've never listened to any instrumental version of it but if it's shitty then that's understandable because the source would either be:

1. The 192cbr-ish official uploads downloaded from remix.nin.

2. Someone's own mix from the 5.1 version (semi-related: I have no idea if that remaster is a new one, but if it is, I'd like to know whether it's better than the excellent one from 2004 or as bad as the PHM remaster from 2010) where they've gone and manually removed the vocals before (probably poorly) mixing it down again, which are not always exclusive from the rest of the mix.

>>69837948
I ll check when i go home if it has big guy.
I remember it is 256kbps.

>>69837992
Don't take my word for it but some guy somewhere implied it's even louder than the 2005 one so it's prolly crushed. I know for a fact TF and Broken ( especially ) were smashed to oblivion.

>>69837949
>Probably because it's her personality that bothers me
I haven't really noticed her having a personality at all

>>69838018
>I know for a fact TF
TF is not any worse than the original CD release. Some tracks are louder, while other tracks are quieter.

>>69837973
Wow, I haven't seen this or anything by TMP in a long time. Best one is with him in the plane and the line from Meet Your Master, or the Pinion/Happy Birthday thing. Funny to remember people thought he probably was gay (still might be, bi rather) for some amount of time. Though I thought his kinda-sorta relationship with Tori Amos was well documented in the 90's, but I have no idea.

I also thought Meathead was almost certainly a textbook NIN fangirl. Really surprised when he stopped to find that he was a he.

>>69838053
They made a record that was already too loud even louder.

I'll stick to the pbthal rip.

>>69838018
>>69838053

Yeah, I meant the unnecessary TDS remaster if there's a new one. The Fragile was not just brickwalled but distorted to hell upon release anyways so I can't see how a remaster of that would be any worse.

Anyways, same deal with everything since WT exempt Hesitation Marks (which is unfortunate, especially since the vinyl mix wasn't any better), I (or someone else who cares enough) just need to get a hold of the 5.1 mix and from it create a good stereo remix. If there's not one for Broken well then...fuck, whatever.

Really fucking stupid with TDS though if that's the case. Just go ahead and erase all those layers for today's crowd that is without music upon losing cell signal.

I wish TR would get back into releasing multi-tracks but I think that's not something he's allowed to do on a label again, or else he'd probably have updated remix.nin and still be doing it.

>>69838045
Therefore, ostensibly nothing but meat.

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>>69838057
The Russia/Plane one is great. The one with the iPhone app is my all-time fav, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPJdfN29sKQ

>>69838076
>complaining about digital limiting on a fucking Nine Inch Nails album
>trusting a vinyl rip of a fucking Nine Inch Nails album to be more dynamic
As if whatever source they used for the vinyl isn't limited as well and manipulated to be on vinyl. It's obvious that digital limiting is a deliberate part of NIN's music. You wanna know how this is easy to tell? Notice how every quiet track on a NIN release isn't brickwalled, Look at A Warm Place on TDS. Look at Lights In The Sky on The Slip. Even A Warm Place on the newest TDS remaster is well mastered. If this was any other band, this would have been brickwalled as well.

>>69837776
post links

>>69838162
>bitching about things you don't understand because god reznor can't do wrong

TF 99 had a different vinyl master. PHM 2010 had a different vinyl master.

>>69838184
>PHM 2010 had a different vinyl master.
No, it didn't. It's sourced from heavy limited files that were re tweaked to be be on vinyl, like most vinyl. Have fun with your placebo. Listening to NIN for dynamic range is like watching a black and white movie for color. It just doesn't make any sense

>TF 99 had a different vinyl master.
No shit dumby, but you have no proof that the audio on that release isn't limited like the cd. And considering that the CD was heavily limited? It's a no brainer.

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>>69837878
On its way little piggy

>>69838184
>>bitching about things you don't understand because god reznor can't do wrong
Also, I don't understand? You're the one bitching at a musician to do things your way. You come off like an arrogant mr know it all sack of shit.

>>69838135
You ever see that other guy who did those cartoons with Al following Trent around yelling at him for being a ripoff, something of that nature? No idea what they were called/who made them, just remember they should have made more.

>>69838218
>No, it didn't

It did. I'd have to go forum diving to find the quote but the engineer confirmed the vinyl master was quieter by a handful of dbs on purpose.

>>69838237
No I'm the one bitching because I'm fed up with being handed subpar versions of things we know for a fact have had better sounding releases on a vastly inferior format.

>>69838273
You're acting entitled.

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For your listening pleasure:

Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile: Deviations 1 - mp3 320
https://mega.nz/#!TNI3DR6L!cn67LS_abedqKHRRepQGGjQgEY0yAtbaAFsAKezMdL8

Lossless to come later (maybe), uploading's chewing up my bandwidth and other people I live with need to use the internet too

>>69838343
I will literally suck your dick for the high quality wavs.

>>69838352
it's on rutracker if you torrent

Anyone get this yet?

https://uploadgig.com/file/download/382Aac52a93c397F/Nine%20Inch%20Nails%20-%20Broken%201992%202016%20Definitive%20Edition%2024bit.rar>>69838355

>>69838355
You beast. Didn't think it would go up there that quickly

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>>69838223

>>69838507
>yfw it is not even a shoop

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>>69838361
>This file can be downloaded by Premium Members only
Download any files instantly with a Premium Account.

I actually like the Broken remaster. I'm actually noticing a lot of subtle things I never noticed with the original, though to be fair, It has been a while since I heard the original master.

the Patriots Day OST is up on youtube now.

>>69838603
It's a new master not a new mix so try turning the old one up, 100% of the time it works everytime.

>>69838656
You ignore the fact that they still retransfer the original master tapes with modern equipment, which is arguably better than the equipment they had back in 1992

>>69838706
Not ignoring it but when people mention they can hear *new things* and not just slightly more treble overall or whathaveyou it's nearly always the compression bringing things up.

Big Black's Atomizer is a great example of a modern transfer being better for no reason other than the gear itself being better.

I guess Dave Navarro plays on Burning Bright.

>>69837689
Niggy tardust album used the fragile b sides as backing tracks

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>>69838901

Can someone upload Not the Actual Events?

Appreciate the Fragile upload.

They definitely re transfered the tapes for the remasters. TDS has a snippet of tape damage somewhere at the beginning that, as far as I can remember, was never there on any other master.

>>69838964
stop asking for this, it's everywhere. don't be lazy. what we need now are the remasters pls.

>>69838987
A couple of pops about 15secs in on the first track, mostly in the right channel ?

>>69838987

Is there any point to it though besides being crushed for the earbuds/phone listeners?

The 2004 SACD remaster/5.1 mix kind of renders any remaster right NOW redundant. I'm not sure how you get better than that equipment wise since not much has changed for the better in that department and I highly doubt Trent (or whoever, since I'm not sure he even remastered everything other than The Fragile's 5.1 mix that's been talked about) had any better approach. The dynamics were totally preserved where they needed to be there in the type of album that is, as he's said before, often inherently loud and intentionally not so dynamic most of the time. I don't like it when people have tried to make TDS more dynamic because then it's just kind of ruining the album.

But Broken needed a nice, wide, dynamic remaster and I can only imagine it didn't get one. Someone let me know if they can hear that synth in Happiness in Slavery better.

>>69839039
Yes, but I'm incorrect. It was on the 2004 remaster. Don't have the original release on me atm, so I have no idea if they're on the original. It probably is.

>>69839070
It's on the 94 cd as well, that's why I asked. Prolly an artefact from the vhs they sampled it from.

>>69839014

I'm not lazy, I'm working and occasionally posting. TPB links aren't functional for me, What.CD is gone and I can't be bothered to look elsewhere at the moment. Was just a simple question since I'd figure someone had already done and had posted the link in another thread anyways.

>>69839079
>>69839070

That's always been there. It's from the manipulation/the source of the THX 1138 sample which, at the time, was not a film commonly hanging around in fantastic quality.

>>69839064
>Is there any point to it though besides being crushed for the earbuds/phone listeners?
People aren't going to be listening to HiRes downloads on earbuds or their phones. People who listen to music on ear buds and their phones aren't going to be buying an expensive vinyl. You know who are buying these releases? NIN fans and other people who can't afford original pressings.

Also, it's obvious that Trent likes digital limiting. Wanting fucking dynamic range with hard and abrasive music? You people are fucking crazy. Anytime an artist uses digital limiting, people get their panties in a bunch, but if they used analog limiting, no one would even notice or give a shit.

>But Broken needed a nice, wide, dynamic remaster and I can only imagine it didn't get one. Someone let me know if they can hear that synth in Happiness in Slavery better.
Broken doesn't need a dynamic remaster. It's meant to be loud, mean and abrasive. Happiness In Slavery is meant to be a wall of noise. You want dynamic range? Go listen to a fucking Burt Bacharach album. People can accept lofi as an aesthetic choice, but people can't accept harsh digital limiting as an aesthetic choice? It's absolutely stupid.

>>69831950
listening to it right now, it's barely like Broken.

I love it though. It's like Gone Girl meets the Fragile

>>69832113
>stop after the Fragile
full pleb

but IMO you're not totally wrong; I really only listen to their 00's output through the live releases

>>69839132
I'm not talking about the hi res releases. I'd assumed that, as was with PHM officially, the new master will take the place of the old one, whether through the official website in the form of lossless audio or through any sort of digital streaming service or distributor once it's updated.

Wasn't even talking about the actual records themselves, just digital files.

Do not address me as part of the "you people" you have a problem with. I just mentioned how the 2004 remaster, which to dynamic-only people would not be considered very dynamic at all, is still dynamic by today's standards and rightfully compressed where it needs to be. It's a fantastic remaster.

The Pretty Hate Machine remaster from 2010 was a terrible one and I'm expecting something more like that.

I don't give a shit whether or not someone uses digital limiting. I care as to whether or not they use their brain. There's a difference between dynamic and just fucking stupid. I don't believe TR went through some phase, sometime after 2009 (ending with that Tetsuo 3 theme, which had great dynamics), where he decided "I really meant for all of this to sound like Neutral Milk Hotel".

You're really exaggerating your own responses as well as what you're responding to. My copy of Broken is waaaay more dynamic than a lot of downtempo ambient music, ironically. Has nothing to do with the 'wall of noise' sound.

>people can accept lofi as an aesthetic choice, but people can't accept harsh digital

Those people are then fucking morons and probably not musicians themselves. Totally with you there. What I stated was preference, not condemnation, and I'll repeat that Broken really would benefit from being wider before anything else is taken into consideration. It's just that something is so bereft of dynamics, none of that matters anymore.

>>69839132
The problem isn't that the mixes were mauled - he did that, he still does, it's nin we're used to it - but that the masters themselves were wrecked.

If your artistic vision is to say " fuck it, I'll have another guy run it through a limiter I can't be bothered " you have a fucking problem. And it leaves us with subpar masters that are bested by 17 year old cds themselves bested by vinyl cut properly by some guy in a basement because no one was there to bother him about making it louder than the mixdown he received.

>>69838901
Yeah, I wish they gave us some pdf file with the credit to see who worked on this project.
The guitar wank doesn't come from the regular NIN people (maybe Robin? not his style though)

Also, I'm pretty sure a statement like "wanting dynamics with harsh and abrasive music = crazy" contradicts your own logic and is a preference itself seeing as there's a ton of post-rock and industrial bands with a lot of noise and yet a lot of dynamics but whatever.

>>69839256
You're making assumptions that Trent had no input on the mastering when he clearly does. If he didn't, tracks like A Warm Place would be brickwalled as well

>>69839292
You keep simplifying the situation as though you know exactly what was used at exactly the right place per some exact logic.

I don't know whether or not Trent had any input and I'm going to assume that he did and simultaneously did not until I actually know. Even if he had someone else do it, it's extremely easy to attach a note to whoever couldn't already infer saying "AMBIENT TRACK STAYS QUIETER".

>>69837082
>Year Zero
this is the only Trent album having the honor of becoming totally obsolete due to all the good songs being a million times better live

>>69837353
This One is On Us

I have my Blu-Ray

>>69839339
way to misspell PHM

>>69839329
>I don't know whether or not Trent had any input

He does, he's been using Baker for years now. I don't think he gives a shit anymore and probably just wants to stay " competitive " even tho no one in the industry knows what this fucking means.

>>69837776
>not Eraser: Denial, Realization
KILL ME
KILL ME
KILL ME

>>69839339

I don't get that.

YZ's legacy runs further than anyone even consciously acknowledges. I mean, shit like Run the Jewels indebted to that album and the template it incidentally provided to modern hip-hop. One that rubbed off on/was properly polished by El-P, but still. It sounds so great too, so long as it's not trying to be a rock record. In that regard with songs like Beginning of the End then yeah, definitely way better live, but otherwise I don't know how you can disregard it as a studio album.

>>69839385
>>69839329
also, it's pretty clear Trent can't stand audiophiles since the audiophile version of Hesitation Marks was anything but audiophile friendly.

>>69839385

Oh, you've just finished communing with TR himself then?

The only similarity with broken is that is a EP. This is its own thing, as most of the stuff Reznors puts out. Thats why i love the guy

>>69839359
Head like a Hole, Sanctified, and Something I can Never have are all better on album

PHM is more than just Terrible Lie and Sin

>>69839427
Me and like 3 other guys kind of believe this charade of an audiophile version was a rushed job meant to silence the outrage surrounding the release of the retail master.

Please don't mind the tinfoil hats tho.

>>69839442
>tfw 4chan becomes as counterproductively asinine as ETS.

>>69839421
I just find it has a few songs I generally don't like at all (Capital G anyone?) and the ones I do love
>Survivalism
>The Warning
>Vessel
>Me, I’m Not
>In This Twilight
are all 10/10 on various live releases

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>>69839461
>Head like a Hole, Sanctified, and Something I can Never have are all better on album

>>69839427
>the audiophile version of Hesitation Marks was anything but audiophile friendly
really? I seem to like it better than my CD

I'm no audiophile, though. I just prefer more clean and less loud mixes.

>>69839490
I've yet to hear a live version of Head Like a Hole or Sanctified that have a proper amount of bass to them

and in Head like Hole they almost always have too much guitar instead of restraining it for the chorus

trent never sang "SICNH" better than on the album

>>69839502
I don't mean it's bad, but it's just not more dynamic like audiphiles were expecting. It has better bass and Everything doesn't audibly clip like it does on the standard mastering.

>>69838596
Whhat am I doing wrong?

>>69839427

I'm pretty sure that's the "hey, here's the actual mix, sorry, forgot this kind of shit comes with re-signing" version disguised by the word "audiophile".

To my knowledge, he has no issue with said 'audiophiles' since he took his time to offer an explanation about what's supposed to be loud being loud. The guy is a fantastic producer when he wants to be and I think he gets the difference between assholes and people with genuine interest that bought the numerous hi-res blu-ray versions of the soundtrack releases and The Slip, which of course was not prompted to be released as hi-res audio by all the 'audiophile' fans who had no clue of its existence until very shortly before hearing it.

Hesitation Marks is a totally different story though, really. It's a great album without a good mix in ANY format/release, in my opinion. There are parts that are okay, then there's distortion in places so arbitrary that it's difficult for me to believe it was part of his vision, then there's the fact that it's the only NIN album I own that I have to keep a specific EQ preset for it because the lows are boosted so much that it begins to distort through my cans upon reaching a desirable volume. While I'm Still Here is heavily damaged by this.

>>69839515
I love the album version of Sanctified, but this version > Purest Feeling version > PHM version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEYO6cdNjNI

>>69839550
nothing, that website is a load of shit. just wait for someone to up it to a decent host, it'll come in time. i'm not sure they've released the remasters, i've not got my TDS dl link yet

>>69839468

Are you saying it already isn't? This is 4chan, after all.

Also, fuck ETS. The NIN fanbase as a whole doesn't gather too well these days without acting...well, like you, honestly.

fragile deviations pls

>>69839604
link posted ITT fampai

>>69839607
ty bb

>>69839584
>Also, fuck ETS. The NIN fanbase as a whole doesn't gather too well these days without acting...well, like you, honestly.
Funny you say "fuck ETS" considering Trent posts more on there than he did the official NIN forum. The official forum was worse. It had a NSFW section you had to be invited to, and it had a thread where members would post nude photos. Not really surprised that place got flushed down the toilet and neglected.

>>69839481

Vessel? That one's lacking. The Warning also varies greatly since the guitar has been played so differently.

Anyways yeah, whether it's Saul on Survivalism or the Wave Goodbye version of ITT, I agree that they're really good live.

But NIN live has always been a separate component. It's almost an entirely different band...because it has been. There are so many renditions of songs I love live.

That doesn't mean I feel with Year Zero it's inherently better live. I can't say any live performance eclipses the studio version in the same way I guess you feel, save for possibly the Bowie duet of Hurt.

>>69839604
repost: https://mega.nz/#!TNI3DR6L!cn67LS_abedqKHRRepQGGjQgEY0yAtbaAFsAKezMdL8

Not sure if legit, but sounds 100% legit.

>>69839584
No one on ETS would even dare talk shit about god reznor like I do.
It has become absolutely impossible to criticize or even question the validity of anything based god reznor has ever had a hand in on ETS and r/nin. Fucking lalalalaIcan'thearyou as soon as you say anything.

Netphoria and Corgan on the other hand....

>>69839630
yeah I can agree with your agreement to disagree.

the only one I'll really defend tooth and nail is "The Warning"

this is just so good I can't imagine someone preferring another version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebmPkYZfOBM

>>69839621

The almost non-existent official forum is definitely worse.

How is that relevant to me still saying fuck ETS?

How is Trent's posting relevant? 90% of the time, conversation with Trent usually ends with Trent telling someone to shut the fuck up/fuck off/et cetera. I have absolutely no interest talking to such a temperamental guy on a forum at all, I'd rather continue enjoying his music.

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>>69839642
>Not sure if legit, but sounds 100% legit.

>>69839660
It's like you've never heard of Meathead. Meathead would shit talk Trent all the time, sometimes seriously, other times obviously joking. Too bad the old ETS archive is gone. Some of that stuff was funny.

>>69839675
What the fuck crawled up in your ass this morning? I just meant that it's funny that Trent would rather post on a shitty fan forum than the official forum he created because it was so shitty. Calm your tits.

>>69839630
Live NIN = Best NIN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eg3C1vNxOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM3ilvObug0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3TYNXwzHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJA_q9szgLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iooA2DPKsOw

>>69839688
That was 10 years ago. Try doing that now without getting shot.

>>69839669

I know which version you meant. With the megaphone sound and all?

It's good. I kind of weigh that against the processed guitar bit that comes up after the first "your time is ticking away" on the album which is totally different live.

I've listened to both probably about the same amount of times. AVOTT/The Gift is one of the best live NIN recordings out there. I just don't feel with a band like NIN that the idea of comparing live to studio is really relevant. I'd always thought of the two firmly disconnected. It'd have to be more like me weighing the live albums against the studio albums, which covers too much territory.

>>69837949
>>69837973
>>69838057
>>69838135
>>69838246
Glad I'm not the only one itt that knows about meathead. Too bad he doesn't like NIN anymore. There was a twitter post saying that NIN is irrelevant and hasn't made a noteworthy album in years. Kinda sad 2bh...

>>69839718

You're showing me stuff I've heard countless times in so many different forms, official and unofficial (thank you reflectinginthechrome - great site btw). Was pretty damn good when I saw them in 2013.

As much material as I've heard represented really well live, there's an equal amount that either hasn't been played or hasn't been done justice IMO. The Downward Spiral was played in full twice and as cool as that is, it doesn't hold a candle to the album.

And they haven't, nor do I think they ever will, get Ruiner right live. Which is fine, the bar is absurdly high.

>>69839781
It's sad that Meathead hasn't been funny in years either. I honestly suspect he probably started hating NIN when Trent declared that his Discipline video was the official video, but Trent didn't fork over any cash for it.

>>69839701

??? lol are you responding to the right person? I'm not angry or lacking in calmness to anyone in this thread.

I didn't think of it in that manner because ETS existed before the official forum. Boards of Canada have no official forum and have posted as well as revealed one of the keys in their (weak) ARG for Tomorrow's Harvest on the fan forum Twoism. Is that funny? I guess I just don't really see why there's much a difference between official and unofficial when it comes to someone posting on a forum about music. They're going to do it all over sites they don't own anyways.

I just have never liked ETS in a very long time for numerous reasons. The official forum was never good either. Again, NIN fanbase doesn't seem to communicate too well with each other these days.

>>69832258
Trent is such a hot daddy.

>>69839642
can anyone rip it in 320? i need to put it in my phone. thnks.

>>69839908
that is 320

>>69839563
That is great audio, one of my favorite live recorded versions. Raleigh, NC '95 i believe, great show.

There are a some great shows from 1990 as well

this one isn't the best recording, but good show.
http://www.ninlive.com/shows/1990/19901229.html
>4th stop in chicago that year
>sold out crowd is lit af

>>69839927
oops,thought they were the .wav files. sorry pham.

>>69839908
You need at least 256 to insert it in your behind

>>69839854
>Boards of Canada have no official forum and have posted as well as revealed one of the keys in their (weak) ARG for Tomorrow's Harvest on the fan forum Twoism. Is that funny?
ETS existed before the official forums, yes. But BOC didn't put time and work into designing a forum, only to abandon it because it attracted crazier people than are on the unofficial forum (which is full of crazy people). It's funny because it was a complete failure, and it was such a failure that Trent settled for the unofficial forum with crazies over his own forum.

Another thing about it that's funny is that at one time, he hated the official forums so much that on the main site, he removed the link to the official forum and instead linked ETS.

>>69831795
Just found out the EP has David Grohl playing drums in The Idea of You, and Dave Navarro in Burning Bright.

I'm so glad he didn't put FEAT in his songs, it would look so ugly;

>>69839515
>Sanctified
This is better than the original tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvm6xe8sRf0

>>69839999
source?

>>69839999
Do you really expect trent to put FEAT in their titles? Get back to your rap shit

>>69840019
http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/12/dave-grohl-drums-on-nine-inch-nails-new-ep-not-the-actual-events/

and a bunch of other websites

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z1LIzPhBxw
neat

It's a crying shame that 2017 The Fragile reissue is so poorly mastered. Clipped to absolute fuck.

>>69840032
No, but the website i was looking at did put FEAT after each song when showing the playlist and i thought it was ugly as fuck

>>69840053
it is indeed haha

Tool >>> NIN

>>69840066
'no'

>>69840049
pleb here. what does it mean when music is ''clipped''? I hear the term used a lot (Rick Rubin's production) but can any anon explain?

>>69840066
I'm a tool fan but holy fuck this wait better be worth it

>>69840084
Really simply it means that it's been mastered too loudly and that the waveform has hit a ceiling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipping_(audio)

>>69840107
thanks dude.

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>>69840066
pic related

>>69839718
Songs that are better live
>Somewhat Damaged
>Hurt
>March Of The Pigs
>In Two
>Mr. Self Destruct

Songs that are not better live
>Burn
>Eraser

Just listened to the Deviations.

It's nice to have the instrumentals in a high quality format, but $80 for the fucking LP is fucking ridiculous. The B-sides that didn't make it to The Fragile are not anything special, but it's nice to finally have (probably) everything that was created in the fragile era available.

It's strange that some of the better b-sides like the Things Falling Apart website soundtracks were not included, but again this compilation seems to just be The Fragile instrumentals as a lossless format with some scraps from the era.

It's nice, but damn it is not $80 nice.

>>69834798
>You got some DUBS mang?

>>69840066
Tool as a band is much tighter live than NIN... but that's all you get cause tool hasn't evolved since lateralus and every live show has been the same since then, just with the addition of lasers.

>>69840199
Listening to the b-sides some of them would have made the album much better, especially if they were to remove starfuckers and replace with even just one of the "new" tracks.

>>69840199
the resell value is gonna skyrocket on these vinyl's

>>69839984

I didn't know about him linking to ETS but obviously he's not linked to the main forum in a very long time.

I find it a bit more sad than it is funny, seeing as many of the personalities on the official forum were as interesting as some of the early ETS crowd and had it succeeded, the generally more positive outlook on people talking about their own work there as well as the inherent tie to the remix section (long since neglected for other reasons) would have been a really nice feature.

Of course, I'm talking pre-HM, pre-HTDA. I know people still posted to the official forum post-HM but there wasn't anything interesting other than some original work nobody would respond to every now and then. The chat was more interesting than the forum.

ETS was shit long before the official forums turned to shit though, as far as I'm concerned. Its heyday existed at a time when people weren't communicating about the same topic through the use of tags across many different websites and sharing/receiving user or band related content pretty much all in the same way.

>>69840049
That's too bad. Guess I'll wait for the 5.1 mix that TR has talked about...if it even exists or comes out.

Holy fucking shit. "Was It Worth it?" is a 10/10 track. Like, holy fuck. Dem fucking lush synths.

Trent isn't that bad of a lyricist

>>69840498
His lyrics work in the EP is probably some of the best, probably still not good as With_Teeth

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>>69840049
>Clipped to absolute fuck.

what are you talking about?

>>69840199

Yeah, that's really strange. I can't say for sure based on what he actually said about there being some 40 odd outtakes that this is everything. It's just more.

Speaking of those website clips, some of them were components of songs on the album (both the remix album and The Fragile as one of those was part of Josh Eustis' mixes) that had simply been isolated from the rest of the track, hence why some bootlegs refer to some of them by track names.

Good example is that 'Rotation' vignette, though it's not given its own track and instead appended to the end of Where is Everybody, I believe.

>>69840519
>WITHA TEETHA

>>69840479
Agreed. Such an amazing track.
Can't wait to hear a version with vocals in the next Deviation.

>>69840527
>using Audiacity to find clips

>>69840527
Oh great you're one of those dense motherfuckers who don't understand the underlying issue but desperately want to chime in anyway

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>>69832875
>KMFDM were never good in the first place
fuck right off

>>69840625
>just bitching about limiting

kek okay

>>69840498

He's inconsistent. He's only bad though when the song itself is bad (i.e. Starfuckers being admittedly immature) or the lyrics are just phonetic with no real meaning.

The thing I learned about his lyrics, particularly when I came to finally relate with The Fragile, is that it's not that he's ever really been bad at writing them, rather he never -relays- them to anyone. You have to experience what it is he's talking about to understand A LOT of it. Everything is one of many tracks that people understandably dismiss because of what's going on vocally and TR seems to be fine with that. I'm fine with it, too. I used to think The Fragile was so poorly worded when I was younger but it operates on a completely different manner of explanation than TDS and I didn't get that. Couldn't have told you what shit like "for once in my life I feel complete, yet I still want to ruin it" meant until I actually found myself on stimulants a couple years ago.

>>69840575
That's a strange lyric delivery, but listen to stuff like "Right Where It Belongs" some of the best work.

Also, I think on Spotify in the "lyrics" section some senpai wrote "AWITHA TEETHA"

>>69840669

I still consider The Fragile to be home to easily his best lyrics (ILFTJY,F) coexisting with his some of his worst by far.

Which is weird, but it makes sense in context, with where he was at the time. How your brain operates when you're constantly going from really artificial highs to really serious lows in your life.

>>69834752
>you can't be sad if you have money

>>69840848
GOD MONEY

how come no one is talking about deviations 1?

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>>69834752

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>>69841025
>tfw not enough storage to download

>>69832048
Is there any NIN that is close to djent? I truly appreciate superior musicianship and I am wondering what would be the most djent Nine Inch Nails songs or albums.

>>69841059
here you go anon
https://open.spotify.com/user/treznor/playlist/1m7vjCZTMiSZUEL79wROIO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeoyOIRIeHs&list=PLdnaixTlg8PtlqnHCtMyI_yxYpzLq8N7z
>youtube is missing videos

>>69832048
Start from the beginning. It's really the only way to appreciate the genius of Trent Reznor.

so... anyone have the link for the remasters of Broken, WT and TDS? i know it is too early, but i can dream...

>>69840785
It's pretty much why I relate to that album so well.

>>69841243
I wish, some asshat on soulseek has all the remasters but doesn't wanna share

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>>69840047
Heh.

>>69839748
>Try doing that now without getting shot.
You should look at ETS right now. TR there's a lot of people angry at him for the way this release has been handled.

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Can you ulet go of the mastering technicalities and just enjoy?

>>69837353
i ordered 2 and only got one. waited a week ans still nothing. I emailed them and they told me they had some issue and that they'd send me the other one. I got it a few days later. i don't know what they'd say if you told them now. you know, years later.

>>69841480
That's different, they paid big bucks for files they can't download.

>>69840457
>Guess I'll wait for the 5.1 mix that TR has talked about...if it even exists or comes out.
It exists and is finished, but whether it comes out or not is another issue. Interscope for some reason are holding it up.

>>69841504
They don't exist anymore, no website/Facebook.

>>69837531
nin fan for 20 years and this guy knows what he is talking about.

>>69837531
>inaccessible/poor lyricism
American isn't my native language, what's wrong with the lyrics?

>>69841390
Yeah, what a faggot

anyone got a definitive edition link?

>>69840435
Besides Deviations, I believe that Reznor and company will keep these well stocked. They obviously sell and it would be stupid to create a finite amount.

Everyone who wants Deviations will buy it now. Maybe in five years or so it will appreciate in value, but the $80 price tag is already ludicrous.

The era of scarce, super expensive NIN vinyl is over.

>tfw the one guy with the Deviations WAV files is offline on SoulSeek

Do you think he called Dave Grohl back to play drums on his EP or did he just use stuff he had recorded ten years ago?

>>69843893
You have a FLAC 24/96 version on rutracker.
Do you know where can find the other remasters?

>>69843972
Wtf? I can't find it on rutracker.

>>69838218
>Listening to NIN for dynamic range
Have you even heard The Downward Spiral? The moment halfway through March Of The Pigs? The moment after the bridge in Mr. Self Destruct? The title track, or A Warm Place?

Or do you not know what dynamic range is? I'm very confused by this comment.

>>69839246
>not musicians themselves
Gg, I bet we've never heard of you.

>>69840625
Your contribution certainly is illuminating things.

The Fragile Deviations are now up on rutracker.

>>69844101
Oh great... oh hey everyone! The guy's being sarcastic! Hahaha Ohohoho! How can I be this witty?!

Fuck off.

as stupid as it sounds, i made a video about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGWAwRZdawU

Just put "Nine Inch Nails" in a search box and Deviations will come up in results.

On rutracker.org, obviously

>>69844532
stop calling it an album

>>69844648
EPs are extended play albums
LPs are long play albums

both are albums

>>69844764
the words you're looking for is record

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>tfw I went to the one concert in London about 10 years ago when NIN played through almost all of The Downward Spiral in sequence.

>>69844857
they are used interchangeably, deal with it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Album

>>69844906
>tfw 2009 is almost 10 years old

hold me /mu/ ;_;

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>>69844913
>>69844857
guys, no one cares.

>>69844913
>>69845003

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_play

>>69844906
I was front row at the wave goodbye tour and Dillinger Escape Plan came out played Wish.

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>>69845015
>album classification starts at 25 minutes of length or four tracks

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>>69845083
congratulations, you have defeated m-

I mean kys fucking fuck

>>69844611
have the link to the remasters?

>>69845356
I second this

>>6984397
link?

>almost none of the tracks flow into each other
>some of the b-sides feel very misplaced
so much for "the experience".

>>69840003
it's the best live version, but IMO it's not better

honestly it was my favorite thing from the '13 tour
>Trent coming back to NIN live was 3.5 years ago now, almost as long as it was inbetween his '09 retirement and comback

fuck my life

>>69845629
>not understanding why they are called b-sides

>>69840498
I consider my Fragile and Downward Spiral booklets to be independent poetry publications

>>69838343
So is the 1 implying there will be a Deviations 2?

>>69841191
interesting to see Trent have an official themed playlist of his own music

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>>69837531
>an incredibly flawed double album with a lot of great music and inaccessible/poor lyricism and structure that can't be fixed

>>69844648
EP's are albums you fucking piece of garbage

>>69833885
kek manson is wearing a shirt from a local band where i live

>>69833885
Manson is not even playing the guitar here, Trent was all like "all right, play the guitar"
And then Manson said "I dunno how"
Which was responded to him "Well, Manson does"

>>69832347
Don't forget Portrait of an American Family, trent essentially defined manson's sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ixqwzl_hA


The swans, pre-reznor, version sucks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJHfAHmevI4

>>69844532
this is actually pretty good.

>>69846012
Portrait of an American Family is underrated desu. there's also this Trent remix, which sounds like what Antichrist Superstar would sound like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZBGO-_woeE

>>69843972
Also need those other remasters.

>>69844370
You're a mess.

Holy shit, I nearly had a heart attack when the drums kicked in on the deviations version of La Mer. For something that's mostly the same song, this is amazing.

>>69846176
love that track

that was the first song that made check out nin's full catalog

anyone have the definitive edition link?