Overrated records

>>69825703
>Zombies
good
>Arctic Monkeys
couple good tracks, mostly shit
>Joy Division
good
>The Avalanches
good
>U2
dogshit
>Kanye
good
>Slint
good
>Joanna
bretty good

>>69825703
Joshua Tree has become so overhated in last years it became underrated

No.

Who cares? Just listen to whatever you want. Why is this even a fucking issue?

>>69825703
how can the best hiphop album of all time be overrated?

>>69825740
Do people unironically have this mentality on /mu/?

>>69825729
This. It's really fucking great.

>>69825703
Unkown Pleasures and Spiderland are properly rated.

Pretty muh agree with everything else.

>>69825769
You're surprised not EVERYONE on this board has the mentality of an autistic teenager?

>>69825811
No they're not.
Learn Muisc Thoery you block.

>>69825729
Can get behind this

>>69825830
>muh music theory is be all end all of music meme

Lol

>>69825856

t. doesn't know music theory

>>69825886
The idea that human experession through an abstract artistic medium could EVER be measured by some sort of "theory," is retarded.

Also I'm not sure what music theory has to do with Spiderland or Unknown Pleasures.

>>69825769
>unironically

kys you'reself

>>69825997
>Ironic meme post

>>69825974
Of course you can. Some people are bad at expressing themselves. Some music is overly simple, boring, and dull. You can tell when a superior mind, an average mind, and a dull mind are behind the music.

That being said I like Spiderland

>>69825830
>>69825886
If music theory is so important then why isnt TMR on there?

>>69826014
no, i was memeing unironically

>>69826132
>Spiderland
>simple

I mean maybe compared to somethinnf like Beethoven's symphonies it is, but compared to other rock music it is definitely not.

Also:

Complexity=\=quality

Think about albums like Songs of Leonard Cohen, Pink Moon, Colour Green etc. incredibley simplistic albums that are also some of the best ever.

>>69825811
Those are the worst albums on there. Holy kek.

If you think Ys is overrated you really must listen to it again

>>69826180
>compared to somethinnf like Beethoven's symphonies
Stop talking out your ass, kid. Beethoven wrote some of the most basic compositions ever.
>>69826220
This.

>>69825703
All except Spiderland are accurate

>>69826212
>this pleb fuck tripfag thinks his opinion is anything but worthless trash

>>69825729
This seriously. I understand the Bono-bashing but Joshua Tree is unironically one of the greatest albums of all time.

>>69826250
>GrimesCuck !!2UeOa86ysZ2
What a stupid fucking tripfag.
Why would you want an identity on a fucking anonimous site?

>>69826283
Explain?
Oh wait. You can't. That requires Music Theory.

>>69826212
No they are not, between originality, influence, impact, atmopshere, lyrics, and just damn fine playing, those two albums are some of the most important in contemporary music history.

>>69826250
Um, you just sad a false statement, I don't really know what else ro say other than you almost certainly have never heard beethoven in your life.

Also Ys is bland, and Joanna is a hack.

>>69826408
I think "music theory" has been thoughly rebuked as an argument for why Spiderland is bad.

Unless you wnat to actually defend your blind asserations this time.

>>69825729
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>>69826357
samefag

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>>69826467
I know this isnt going to convince you, but whatever.

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Ya ok bud

>>69825703
Replace odessey with lame impala and u2 with gorillaz

>>69826352
>>69826390
Aw, muffins...
>>69826414
>just damn fine playing
Slint was nothing special and every band they influenced aren't special either. Closer improves upon all the flaws in UP.
>important
And? Led Zeppelin and The Ramones are also "important." Go to bed, Scaruffi.
>you almost certainly have never heard Beethoven
>Ode to Joy
>5th Symphony
>Moonlight Sonata
>not basic as fuck
Aight.
>Ys is bland
Terrible opinion.

>>69826702
>slint were nothing special

Yes they were, no other band sounds like them. Also the list of bands rhey influenced is so long its not even worth listing, but to imply that no post-rock, math-rock, or post-hardcore albums are good is retarded.

I agree that Closer is better musically then UP, but everything they did on closer they already did on UP, so UP is still the one that deserves more recognition.

>Led Zeppelin and the Ramones are important

1. Those records are not NEARLY as important as UP or SL.
2. How is saying that these bands are important a refutation of how UP and SL are important?

>Bewthoven is basic

If you mena in the sense that he is very popular, Then yes. If you mean that his compositions were simplistic, then you are a fucking moron.

>>69826914
Did I win?

>>69826467
this. nobody likes u2.

>>69825769
>Do people unironically have this mentality on /mu/?

>>69827461
So you agree that they're not overrated.

>>69826914
>post-rock, math-rock, or post-hardcore
Slint didn't create any of those genres.
>Those records are not NEARLY as important
You're retarded if you believe that.
>If you mean that his compositions were simplistic...
I do because they were. Notice that I never said I disliked Beethoven. He was a remarkably talented composer, but his works are simplistic.

>Zombies
Accurate.
>Arctic Monkeys
Accurate.
>Joy Division
Accurate.
>The Avalanches
Accurate.
>U2
Accurate (as fuck).
>Kanye
No accurate (well, just a little).
>Slint
No accurate.
>Joanna
No accurate.

>>69825703
its completely subjective

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Unknown Pleasures is there because it is literally the first album people will recommend you if you want to get in to Post Punk. Also it's because of the poser "I wear Joy Division crop tops and black lipstick everywhere I go" sort of bullshit in the States'.

Yes, Yes, Yes, A little, No, No, Slightly, No

>>69825703
>Zombies
Somewhat accurate, but still good.
>Arctic Monkeys
Accurate, but not terrible.
>Joy Division
Accurate, but still good.
>The Avalanches
Accurate, but still good.
>U2
Hugely accurate and fuck U2 and Bono.
>Kanye
Slightly accurate but he's amazing
>Slint
Inaccurate.
>Joanna
Inaccurate.

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>>69827721
>>Slint
>Inaccurate.
>>Joanna
>Inaccurate.
Stop this meme

>>69827477
>>Do people unironically have this mentality on /mu/?

>>69826357
>U2
>good ever
kys

I think this is all p accurate besides Spiderland

shit changed my life bro

Agreed on everything except Ys

That's a real piece of work

>>69825703
>the avalanches
>no tame impala
Fucking kek kys pleb

>>69825728
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>>69828934
By saying Spiderland doesn't deserved to be called overrated makes it overrated

>Odessey
no
>Unknown Pleasures
no
>whatever that is
yes
>Spiderland
yes
>Arctic Monkeys
yes
>SILY
no
>MBDTF
yes
>whatever the fuck that is
yes

>>69825703


>zombies

Overrated

>Joy Division

Maybe a little, but still good

>U2

Yes, Unforgettable Fire is the best album

>Slint

I can't say, but I don't think so

>Arctic Monkeys

yes, just Oasis wannabes

>Kanye

Nah, maybe a little


>JN

Yes

Get Ys the fuck off there

>>69827551
>Slint didn't invent any of those genres

No album has ever "invented a genre," but Slint played an unbelievably important roal in the development of those genres.

>those artists aren't nearly as important

They aren't, Led only had minor impacts on Blues Rock and Hard Fock, there impacts are then lessened even more because of their plagiarism.

The Ramones were much more important then Led, but I don't they're as important for the overall devoplement of contemporary music as SL or UP. But I could see why someone would say the opposite.

But thats still jot an argument for why SL and UP are bad.

>mozart is simplistic

Wait, why am I even arguing with an imbecile?

>>69829519
That literally doesnt make any sense, but okay.

>>69830278
Multiple people saying one album isn't deserving of being called overrated yet others are proves that one album is overrated by people.
Can't you morons think for once?

spiderland is a boring, pretentious, overblown piece of shit.

>>69830328
Holy shit did you have an aneurism while you were writing that? I cannot understand what you just wrote.

When people say something isnt overrated, their saying rhat the thing deserves the priase that its gets, so they are indeed praising it, but they are saying that the praise is justified.

So how is people saying an album isn't overrated, proof that it is overrated? First you have to peove that it is not good, which you simply haven't done.

>>69830432
You're dumb as rocks.
Go back to bed.

>>69830252
*Beethoven

Not mozart, my mistake friends.

>>69830445
Man you contribute so much to discussions.

>>69830328
I want you to read what you wrote and use some critical thinking skills to think about why that makes zero sense.

"Saying an album isn't overrated makes it overrated" yeah lmao ok

>>69830469
Say that to my face.

>>69830481
>>>Multiple people

>>69830500
How does this change anything?

>when he says he'll block you

Some of them are, some of them totally are not. I dont know what you expected out of this thread, the trees are all ready cut down, the money has been made. The Jim o rourke Produced Joanna Newsom record is outstanding... while I do agree that I was bummed when I heard "Unknown Pleasures" for the first time when I was younger because everyone told me how much I would love it... Arctic Monkeys is a band I would never listen to so I dunno... Zombies are pleasant.... I dont know man .... fuck.

Arctic Monkeys' first album is special to me because my eldest brother would play it when he came out, and it basically gives me an insight into what his adolescence was like. I can understand why you wouldn't enjoy it if you weren't British. The Streets is the same in that sense. Love them both personally

>>69830500

Ok, multiple people think an album isn't overrated then. What does that change? Explain to me the logic. Multiple people agree an album isn't praised beyond its merit, so what?

>>69830640
Im not british, Canadian... I get ya though.

>>69825811
Patrician detected

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This, it's a bad album

Spot on with acrtic monkey's.
You should also add is this it and turn on the bright lights