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>>69794746
I'll take it from here

>tfw listening to Gaspard de la Nuit and knowing I will never ever be able to play it
Why the fuck did my parents not force me to learn piano when I was a kid

>>69794746
Yes and he was tasked with creating Music Entartete

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Absolutely degenerate

>>69795917
their all Jewish. That seems kind of prejudicial

>>69795917
I love how somebody can parrot propaganda memes about entartete kunst while ignoring the fact modernistic tendencies was brought to music by Satie, Debussy, Ravel, Richard Strauss etc. But they aren't Jews so it doesn't count, I guess!

Degenerate scum is what you are for not thinking with your own head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JL4JXEv-RY

>>69796550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Lx_cb21cQ

favorite piano solo piece(s)?

>>69795917

I want /pol/ to leave

>>69796904
chopins polonaise op 53

prove me wrong

>>69796904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FPdYuz_b2M

>>69797969
i cant prove you wrong about your own favorite piece though

>>69795917
>Reich
>not regenerate

Lads, what's your favourite opera?

I'm just dipping my toes in, enjoying Fidelio atm

>>69800137
From the House of the Dead by based Janacek

>>69795917
>No Cage.

>>69800137
Parsifal, Hippolyte et Aricie, Wozzeck, From the House of the Dead, Zauberflote, Oedipe, the list can go on....

>>69796415
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_music

>>69800137
Salome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZHdHuJWflY

>>69796483
The Nazis hated Debussy as well because he had a Jewish wife.

>>69800137
Death in Venice

>>69800137
the magic flute or parsifal.

How do we save /mu/ lads?
>>69801013

>>69796904
kinderszenen op.15
six romanian folk dances sz.56
intermezzi op.118
k.332

>>69802084
>implying /mu/ can be saved

bela bartok sucks

one of the highlights from parsifal for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV-cjP96Se8

>>69802150
he was a real master, it's not even a discussion.

>>69802150
but i like his violin concerto 2

What's a good recording of Verdi's Il Trovatore?

>>69802084
Mozart (underrated God of music) sold the most albums this year. /mu/ absolutely destroyed.

So I just finished listening to The Ninth Symphony by a fellow named Ludwig Beethoven, and I've gotta say, that's a DAMN fine piece of music. Who agrees?

>>69795917
>He forgot Mendelssohn

Pleb. Jews are great at music for some reason.

>>69800137
Don Giovanni.

>>69802150
That's wrong. Possibly the greatest 20th century composer even, top 5 at least.

but the 4th movement should have ended halfway through

>>69803742
Of Beethoven's Ninth? Fuck off.

>>69804599
Meme symphony.
Come back when you've developed a refined taste.

>>69804612
It may be the greatest symphony of all time.

Wasn't here for it, but what did you guys think of Stravinsky's Funeral Song?

>>69805470
It isn't even his best symphony.

>>69805638
then what is?

>>69805470
I was just messing with you but you fucking went full retard on me.

>>69805911
What other symphony can compare? Seriously. . . .

>>69805786
Eroica

>>69796904
pretty goddamn hard but if I had to pick one it'd be ballade no 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-GrRQz8pk

8:03 to the end is one of the few segments of music that consistently moves me to a trance

>>69805978

pleb spotted

>>69806298
Yes he's right here >>69805470

Missa Solemnis > Any symphony
Benedictus > Ode to Joy

Debate me.

>>69805978
actually 6th is his best, eroica is definitely second though

>>69806322

>not holding the meme opinion (9,7,5>the rest)

>>69806192
arrau is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cID2mePGpqk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw-zU4c6J48
03:53

Sokolov pls

Frank Zappa was born today and he made classical music that sounded a bit like Varese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu80UHvQq_Y

>>69807124
was that improv

lol

>>69807245
Who cares?

>>69807245

Jeez, that's ugly

>>69807974
None of his music was exactly tasteful

>>69808054

Then why should we remember him?

>>69808102
because good music doesn't have to always be tasteful

>>69808102
Because ugliness is a creative force in of itself.

>>69794746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq6jVsBD3qM&index=17&list=WL

Post every classical piece you ever heard from any other media (TV shows, Movies, etc)

>>69808298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZTRrI11t_E

>>69808298

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wmf_APgxkg

You have outstanding defense mechanisms.

>>69808135
>>69808120

Eh, but it's not that interesting either.

>>69808669
what?

>>69807245
personally i prefer his side career as an iranian
classical musician under the pseudonym Shahram Nazeri:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p7KccSKDfY

Are there any good books about the history of classical music? Going from the beginnings till contemporary, something like that?

>>69808915
There's the Oxford History of Western Music by Richard Taruskin, if you want something really long and in-depth (five volumes). If you'd prefer something a bit shorter in just one volume, you could go with A History of Western Music by Donald Grout instead.

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When did you grow out of Bach /classical/? I was 24 when I did

>>69809035
I'll check both but I was searching for something like the former. Thanks!

>>69809095
Read Rosen's criticism of Taruskin and keep it in mind while reading.

>>69809079
never have, never will. After 30 years, he's still one of the greatest composers.

>>69809079

Bach is supposed to get better as you get older.
You're opinion is shit

>>69809635
Batch is autistic lmfao

>>69807245
Zappa's "classical" music is awful, and you should feel bad for promoting it in a thread dedicated to actual art music.

He could play guitar pretty well in a sleazy way, and he could write mildly amusing come-music that would make a 10 year old smile awkwardly, but thats about it.

>>69809649
Only because you become more autistic when you get older, lmfao!

>>69809658
no he isn't. He's a master improviser who knew his shit.
Autistic people dont tend to hold kappelmeister positions, have 2 wives and 20 children

>>69809677
I don't think aging works like that.

>>69808120
All good music is tasteful

>>69809691
Well think again lmfao!

>>69809704

But is it good music? I don't think so.

>>69809723
You mean Zappa's? As far as classical, no; as far as popular music, sure.

>>69809759
Popular music is bad, though.

>>69809677
>>69809722
>lmfao
>can't into Bach
Once you mature, you might appreciate, or even begin to understand Bach.
Then again, you may stay a pleb your whole life.

>>69809771
I was the biggest Batch fan for a long time until I grew out of autism and realized it was shit lmfao!

>>69809793
But wait... if you get more autistic as you get older, then how do you grow out of autism...?

>>69809815
Because I haven't reached the age of nervous decay lmfao!

>>69809856
Well Alzheimer's isn't autism

>>69809668
he's still better than glass and most other post 60s composers

>>69809989
no he's not

>>69810000
yes because they are all absolute shite

>>69810089
they're not and my quads don't lie >>69810000

>>69810107
you are too dumb to operate quads desu

>>69810143
well that's just mean

>>69810000
He's at least better than Glass, give Zappa that much.

>>69810268
Glass is good, fuck off

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>>69810286
>Glass is good

>>69810268
Not him and not really

Honestly Glass has some legit stuff among all the commercialized garb he has released. He also has an instantly recognizable style, something which is not easy to achieve.

>>69810000
Is there any good modern composers?

>>69810299
fuck you

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>>69810329
CARTER
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>>69810329
Yes

>>69810329
Oliver Knussen, Kaija Saariaho, Wolfgang Rihm, John Luther Adams, Magnus Lindberg, Osvaldo Golijov, Thomas Ades, Lera Auerbach

Reminder: Schubert best composer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs0FVs74gT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzvOpiBL9hg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Og5aECH3Y&t=1721s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3CIvR0NsGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mq0JkRk25M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkqDEh-fXVI

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>>69794746

>>69810389
lol

>>69810406
>posting The Trout as an example

>>69810478
Yeah.. it's really fucking funny to name some of the most obvious acclaimed living composers.

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Why are there no good composers alive today but during the 17th-19th century there were multiple good ones alive at the same time?

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>>69810484
There is literally nothing wrong with the Trout
It is in my top 5 favorite pieces of all time. AMAZING.

>>69810542
>not posting the superior quintet

>>69810389
>Auerbach
Is she actually good or another poly meme?

>>69810568
It's fine but feels more dissonant and aimless. Not a fan.

>>69810542
>>69810568
>not the superior final string quartet

>>69810569
meme

>>69810518
the cultural zeitgeist is against beauty standards so art is being sacrificed in favor of the cult of self-indulgence. Also there isn't much more ground to break and a lot of it was broken just for the sake of breaking it as is.

I don't get the appeal of orchestra music, they sound too messy and chaotic to me desu senpai

>>69810569
>she
it's just a meme
>inb4 anna magdalena wrote the prelude to cello suite no. 1
no.

>>69810615
pathetic

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Is this a meme or good?

>>69810329
Arvo Part is pretty neat.

>>69811086
>judging people based on their music taste in 2014
pathetic.

>>69811260
>implying i was judging anything but taste

>>69811089
good

>>69811260
>not knowing what year you are in

Baka

>>69795917
Degenerates make the best art. Its not even like I'm denying that a lot of them are not degenerates but like take Roman Polanski for instance, yeah hes a child molesting faggot but he still made the best rendition of Macbeth and nothing is going to change that fact. Its still going to be the best Macbeth adaptation.

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>>69811532

>>69801575
And yet they love H.P. Lovecraft for some reason even though he also had a Jewish wife.

What is Elliott Carter's best piece?

>>69812538
who cares? Its going to be some unmusical academic trash anyway

>>69812538
2nd string quartet, 90+, double concerto.

Hey /classical/. I have been trying out some of Bach's music recently, namely his choral music. These are a few pieces that I REALLY like, and I was hoping to get some suggestions like these. Thanks in advance.

Erkenne mich, mein Hüter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoXotqgijDY

Ich bin's, ich sollte büßen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4tZnZXP2Ag

Warum sollt' ich mich denn grämen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4tZnZXP2Ag

>>69812538
Don't bother

>>69810615
bitch

>>69810622
whaddup clt

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>>69800137
L'Orfeo

>>69815016
>tfw bartok didn't write more chamber music for the clarinet like contrasts

>>69815119
i know, it makes me sad.
on the bright side though we have key features in the dance suite and the arrangement of the hungarian sketches, not to mention the miraculous mandarin

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Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye3o0FFbq-c

>>69814530
The Aria you dipshit

>>69795917
Good thing i'm an absolute pleb and don't know any of them.

>>69809989
not in any way, shape or form.

Are you even familiar with post 60s composers?
Zappa hardly registers as a "composer" regardless of period. He's essentially the Stockhausen of pub rock

god fucking dammit guys I woke up, took benadryl, and was drowsy af the entire day and now I can't get to sleep

music for this feeling?

>>69817022
on the bright side i'm literally cucking someone right now so that's fucking good

>>69817022
Listen to some Reich, that always puts me to sleep.

>>69816588
I am aware that they all belong in the trash except Rautavaara

Is du Pré playing Elgar a meme? I'm uneducated in music but she's probably only my third choice there.

>>69816588
Nicolas Slomibsky begs to differ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H-owTb1fdlo

>>69817128
Elgar himself is a meme. Hell, UK composers are a meme

anyone know of modern composers who use non-classical influences like world or rock music and incorporates it into their classical songs

tried looking into classical crossover but all the songs i came across sounded bad

>>69811532
Your point being?

I've just enrolled in conservatory (flute and composition).

Of course, being on /mu/, I'm an antisocial trainwreck. So here's my question: how the fuck am I supposed to get my future compositions performed?

Is networking the only way to get your music played? Should I just go full sperg and send my stuff to every conservatory prof in my country?

>>69817260
>flute
ahahahahahaha

>>69817264

Fuck off, I'm a great flutist.

>>69803700
Mendelssohn converted to protestantism and was very serious about it. Just look at the sacral touch in many of his works (e.g. Reformation symphony)

>>69817488
Same goes for a lot of "Jewish" composers desu
Either became protestants or catholics

>>69817264
at least he achieved something with music besides shitposting on /classical/

>>69817260
first of all you have to compose for yourself. when you do it this way you can develop a personal style, and if it's good you will find your way automatically. If you just have the goal before your eyes nothing good will come from it

>>69817511
idk any that lived his new religion like Mendelssohn did. Most I know stayed serious Jews all their lives

>>69817532
Mendelssohn remained a Jew at heart

>>69817232
Fairouz uses a lot of world stuff, Psathas uses a lot of world and rock stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gG0j-35Mgk

>>69817264
nothing wrong with flute, faggot

>>69817687
The only Jew-at-heart in music at that time was fucking Berlioz. Dude fucked up music forever

>>69814530
have you heard wachet auf? I'm a pleb but I think it's great

>>69817232
Rautavaara uses bird recordings in some of his works. Listen to cantus articus

>>69813026
They're pretty cool-sounding actually. He has a unique style

>>69814530
Bwv 110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2GBmjeFAv8
BWV 78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnT1ziunHtY
Ruht wohl from the st john passion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0raURe1xl_I

>>69809768
According to the arbitrary criteria you use, but not according to the other arbitrary criteria other people use.

It's all in the end arbitrary, so stop wasting your time.

>>69818967
It's not arbitrary.

>>69794746

Quick: What's the best recording of Bartok's string quartets?

>>69819495
Takacs

>>69818208
Elliott Carter is probably the last great modernist, in fact.

>>69819495
Vegh

A Hindemith quartet as played by the Hindemith brothers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eviu5qU_NME

>>69819509

Fantastic, that's the one I reserved from the library. Danke anon

>>69819560

I'll check this one out as well, thank you

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>>69810518

>>69821052
NO

>>69808120
>He was only ironically pretending to be a bad composer. >:^)

>>69810329
John Adams and Richard Einhorn

>>69821547
What if Mozart was just pretending to be a good composer just to be ironical? underrated ruse master

>>69822615
Mozart does have a couple ironically bad pieces, e.g. A Musical Joke, Leck mich im Arsch

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Is he underrated?

>>69817260
make friends with performers and then write pieces for them. or just write a piece for whatever combination and just straight up ask musicians if they will play them. being a conservatory, they're gonna be looking to play music all the time. It's scary as fuck putting your work in front of people and then asking them to play it, but generally people are looking to help out, even if they don't normally play weird new music or whatever. sending your stuff out to competitions and stuff is good too, but it's easier to just find musicians yourself a lot of the time. writing pieces for your instrument and other combinations is good, because you can always depend on yourself being able to play your own shit (hopefully).

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>>69823540
His instrumental works are

>>69810518
It has to do with how the music industry functions, the lack of ground to break and such things.

>>69825915
Except that's a load of crap and there are, in fact, multiple good composers alive today.

>>69826295
Those composers mostly use stupid gimmicks though

>>69826995
Well who says things like the diatonic scale, functional harmony, counterpoint, sonata form, etc. aren't stupid gimmicks

>>69827144
Yeah but there's a difference between those things and using randomly generated notes and extending what's at best a 4 minute song into a 5 hour piece

>>69827291
There's a lot more to contemporary music than the detritus of Cage and Stockhausen tbqh

I've never cared much about 20th century music but lately I've been liking Rautaavara a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFIGoB7rK70
Is he a meme?

>>69827560
definitely not a meme

>>69809668
>you should feel bad for promoting it in a thread dedicated to actual art music
Ah. Now I remember why I don't frequent /classical/.

>>69827822
Because some people here don't care about Zappa? whatever. Captain Beefheart is a million times better anyway

>>69827921
No. It's the delusion of grandeur that's common among posters here because they limit themselves to a particular kind of music. "Art music" doesn't exist.

>>69823540
yes.

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>>69823540
Very

>>69821079
Yes, if you disagree then you are pretentious.

>almost everything itt made up of the same set of instruments
>no new sounds being discovered
>just breaking arbitrary "rules" set around how to get limited sounds from these "instruments"
For something called "art music" you would think it would be more forward thinking, but it can't even match up to whatever trash is on the radio today.

>>69828186
H'es only OK.

>>69828209
Composers can use any and all instruments they want, including electronics. The classic orchestral instruments are just the most popular because they sound the nicest

>>69828209
only attention deficit retards like Poly lack nuance to this extent.

>>69828209
Here, have a reply.

>tfw you can't even remember the names of all your favorite pieces.

Will the study of composition make composing harder or easier?

I've just started studying music theory, but I'm already composing pretty long and complicated pieces. I feel that they're not coherent enough, but it's still extremely easy for me to find new musical ideas costantly.
Will learning the rules speed up this process?

>>69828209 (you)

>>69828209
Timbre is quite probably the shallowest musical attribute there is, even a monkey could find new sounds.

>>69828209

>implying that violins in Haydyn sound the same as violins in Mahler

Fuck off

>>69828759
>>69829501
Why don't people realize that the "have a reply" and "(you)" meme is retarded as shit. You're literally just saying that hte post got you all butthurt.

>>69829537
It really isn't, and a lot of interesting music (including classical) is based almost entirely on relationships between and evolution of timbrel elements.

>>69829589
Anon is literally saying that they don't, though.

>>69829752

>Anon is literally saying that they don't, though.

That would be a ridicolous statement. Bartok's piano concertos don't sound like Brahms concertos, and his concertos don't sound like Beethoven's ones (wich are extremely different from the Mozart's ones), and they all use the same instruments.

>>69829752
>It really isn't
It is.
>and a lot of interesting music (including classical) is based almost entirely on relationships between and evolution of timbrel elements.
So?

>>69829870
Yeah, Anon recognizes that, but is also saying that the range of sounds that can be produced is limited by what the instruments are capable of. Of course, that's not really an issue any more when composers are now writing music for any number of different instruments, including non-classical and even electronic ones, and have been for the past century

>>69829870
>they DON'T
>continues to talk like anon says they DO
between you and mr. "timbre is shallow" I am not sure which one is that much dumber, and possibly that much more pretentious considering it's a /classical/ thread.

>>69829998
Most ideas in theory, why instruments are tuned a certain way, what instruments should be used for what type of work, etc. are all based on timbrel relationships though. Not shallow at all.

>>69829268

No one?

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>>69828209
>can't into abstract thought
Holy shit lmao

>>69830555
>basic bitch structured music
>"abstract"
top kek

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Please spoon feed me piano pieces like the following:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgj3BFyL2dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjfVERN2nmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He72RTGG2h0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67a5FTa1U1A

>>69828315
A factor for why they sound the nicest is because they have the most highly trained musicians. No new instruments are being invented then popularized since the Wagner tuba iirc.

>>69830046
WHy instruments are tuned in a certain way is based on pitch and the relationship between them, and what instruments should be used for what type of work is more a matter of range than timbre.

Handel is shit desu

>>69808298
This is hummed by a character in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Ky0v_0w0E

>>69829752
>Why don't people realize that the "have a reply" and "(you)" meme is retarded as shit.

Because your post was retarded as shit. The whole implication that newer instruments automatically makes something better or more meaningful is baseless.

>>69832117
Yes, the Messiah is below entry tier

>>69833517

bump

>>69830580
so you're admitting that you can't into abstract thought lmao

>>69817697
nothing wrong with sucking penguin dick, poly

>>69828097
>Art music" doesn't exists
it really does, and Zappa is not one of its creators.

We dont apologize for preferring trained musical geniuses over rock band attention whores

>>69832117
This desu

>>69832117
>>69833517
>>69835600
kys

>>69836996
haydn's creation > messiah
bach's passions >>> messiah

>>69810268
You're a moron

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>muh meme folk adaptations
>muh debussy influence
>muh edginess
Straight garbage

>>69837740
(wrong)

>>69837740
>muh simplifying Bartok's output by putting the word muh in front of it

Who's the best performer of Haydn's string quartets? ABQ?

>>69838326
The Mosaïques Quartet own those pieces as far as I'm concerned

>>69838326
I don't know if they're the best but I read Mosaiques recommended.

Curious question: what music is you guys' favorite that ISN'T Western Art Music?

>>69838462

Velvet Underground&Nico

>>69838349
>>69838354

thanks famiglia

>>69838462
Used to listen to a lot of Beach Boys when I was in High School

>>69837921
The muh meme is easily one of the most retarded

>>69838462

I like Nick Cave a lot.

>>69838564
lol

>>69838462
Eastern Art Music

>>69838462
Folk, Jazz, Prog, IDM, Underground Hip Hop
Haha just kidding, I only listen to real music.

Cikada or Kronos for Black Angels?

>>69838777

>Eastern Art Music

ding ding dong ding ching chong chacha ching

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>>69838326

>>69838462
Traditional music - both world music and old folk songs.

>>69837321
Go to bed Glass

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>tfw hes not as fun to listen to now since i'm no longer an angsty teenager

Recommend something to a newbie who loves this but hasn't really heard much else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjPulEZj_m4

>>69840197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTE08SS8fNk

>>69840197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVYj7R6G0CM

>>69840197
Childhood is idealizing Rach 2.
Adulthood is realizing Rach 3 makes more sense.

>>69838462
Electronic for background music

>>69840633
Adulthood is realizing that most Rach is trash

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>>69802150
janacek stronk :^)

>>69840802
Adulthood is realizing being a contrarian is embarassing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGQa1_pBQzE

Regenerate

>>69841272
ended too early, should've gone until they fully stopped

>>69838462
Autechre

just listened to monteverdi's orfeo and fell in love with the small part in act 3 where he plays his lyre.

what's some good similar renaissance or baroque music for the harp/lyre?

>>69837740
But every one of those things are good though desu

>>69841272
This is the best example of Chance music, I guess he really is regenerate

>>69840810
Janacek a qt

>>69843374
dont objectify janacek

>>69837740
He's not even edgy.

>>69800137
Nozze di Figaro

>>69800137
2nding Salome

>>69838462
Bossa nova

>>69838462
Elvis Presley

>>69838462
Jazz

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>>69838462
Anime soundtracks

>>69838462
Technical death metal, which is the closest thing to Classical Music that exists today.

>>69842568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcaABG_-X80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxymb3jsT58

>>69845342
lmao

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>>69845395

>>69845420
Is this a meme? Never seen it.

>>69845455
http://saddude69.tumblr.com/

>>69845420
kek

>>69845502
> I mean really, is there anything else that involves actually having fun with other people that doesn’t involve some sort of intimate contact with another human being?

I mean, I’ve never had sex with someone else, but it seems like whenever I meet with people outside of my house it’s a fucking formality. It’s like, great, I am with a person yet again, and we’re talking and I don’t really know them and they don’t really know me.

Good shit right here-

Boccherini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ3FbGOG9nU

>>69838462
i like shoegaze

>>69838462
kpop

>>69838462
trap music

/classical/ is the only thread on /mu/ that's actually about music

i just got a gf whos into sonorism and concrete lads ama

>>69848372
is she autistic?

>>69848394
no just polish

>>69848407
that sucks

>>69847457
irrelevant, but, me too

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I don't like any other Schnittke record (and I've heard a lot) but this is actually pretty excellent, mainly because the Mahler at the heart of it

I guess he was fine at writing for Chamber Ensemble and sometimes for Choir

>>69840197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GGx8TRWFVA

>>69849178
Schnittke is a great composer, some of his stuff is just an acquired taste.

>>69849515
Why is a child playing this?

>>69809035
Thanks bud

>>69809079
I'll stop listening to Bach when his counterpoint stops being great.

>>69849515
>Schnittke is a great composer, some of his stuff is just an acquired taste.
His music is mostly fedora level edginess

>>69849559
racist

>>69849983
(True, by the way.)

>>69849983
>fedora level edginess
someone who uses these words is clearly not mature enough to appreciate Schnittke. Try again in 5 or 10 years.

>>69849983
Why fedora level edginess?

>>69850456
*tips*

>>69850477
Emo tier shit

Sounds like an adolescent saying the world sucks while trying to be cool

Other than that, as I said I enjoy that record by his and that Mahler quartet completion

>>69850492
Ah, so you're the one with the fedora, meaning you're just a contrarian edgelord.

>>69840859
nothing contrarian about not liking Rach


unless you live in the united kuckdom

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>>69849178
Have you heard his Beethoven cadenzas? They're wild and fun.

How do piano stuff from Debussy sound the way it does?
Are you supposed to play it with the sustain pedal on at all times?

>>69850964
That's generally what I do unless instructed otherwise.

>>69845392
>I don't know what a harp is