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/prod/ general thread
spaghetti edition

Remember to use:
>clyp.it for WiPs
>soundcloud for completed tracks and getting called a fudge packer for not going to the designated soundcloud threads

Stuff:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff:
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q

/prod/ Wiki (looking for contributors!)
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki
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can I get some feedback on this song I'm working on?

https://clyp.it/kyjfziww
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Is Max/MSP worth learning?

I've been listening to a lot of Autechre lately and I know they use it. I normally stick with Logic and I've been trying to use grain delay feedback and pitch shifting to come up with interesting noises I can cut up and turn into beats but it hasn't been going well. I would probably just be using it to get weird glitch-sounding percussion and then I figured I would just export it to Logic and put the rest over it. Would I get some good use out of it or do I just need more practice with Logic?
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>>69762400
sounds like you really were not trying at all

but it does sound okay, the "I don't really give a fuck if my voice sounds gay" vocals actually help you out
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>>69762400
love the vocals m8
could be #1 hit
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Not sure this is the right place to ask but I just got an EWI and it seems that I'll need a USB mixer to play it through the amp properly. Does it really matter which one I get? What features should I look out for and how much should I spend? I'm using it to improvise sections of Ableton Live sets.
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Is there some nice, fairly cheap hardware synthesizer with unison?
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>>69762496
are you calling me gay or something
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>>69762457
Yes, expect it to suck though
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>>69762602
I am not calling you gay, your voice just sounded kinda gay on that track, I mean that in a good way. Not unlike how Lou Reed's voice sounded gay on TVU&N and made the whole thing sound better; but he actually is gay so it's a bit different
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>>69762725
Oh. Well as long as I'm not gay.
Here's a sequel I made; our name is Grandma's House btw

https://clyp.it/m4dnkque
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>>69762826
you are gay
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https://clyp.it/4tor0ab5 I'd like some feedback on this
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this is the first time i've ever made a long-form track, and i wanted some feedback on how it was going
my goal for this track was to almost always be moving and being in transition, and not staying in any particular place for too long
kinda ae inspired but idk

https://clyp.it/4r51h050
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any /prod/ucers have experience with the roland r5? i'm pretty much looking for an 808/909 surrogate
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>>69763339
Awesome song. Great beat. Sounds thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress tunes or clips.
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>>69763738
Just get a TR-8
No headaches with shitty pads, and it's much more fun to edit 808/909 sounds on the fly than it is to press pads that trigger samples.
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r8 hate or masturbate

https://clyp.it/qbk5qmvq
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>>69762826
lol
its so long
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>>69762707
I'll check it out.

Suck in terms of learning curve or how my finished product sounds? I was already expecting both.
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>>69763339
soda island influence very obvious/10
melody is too uninteresting for this to be a hit.

>>69763367
lacking any concept of rhythm, but I really like your sounds, especially towards the end.

>>69764820
absolutely horrible. Irredeemable in fact. Please never touch a DAW again.
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>>69765586
Learning curve. Basically you're not going to get anything productive out of it for a while.
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why do alot of people hate on songs with alot of background sound effects?
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>>69765749
>absolutely horrible. Irredeemable in fact. Please never touch a DAW again.

AHAHA

ill get better ...

any advice :)?
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>>69765775
For me, less = more. The more stuff going on, the less room a track will have to breathe.
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>>69765775
i like a lot of stuff going on

as long as it fits the theme and general sound
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>>69765749
yeah in terms of the rhythm of that track, the daw was set at 6/4 time signature, but almost nothing ended up following it so you really cant discern the "beat", i get what you're saying
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https://clyp.it/rqedtpwh

55 seconds of what is supposed to be the main part of a song, I need to add an intro and transitions, however I still need advice
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>>69766139
i like the sounds you used as kind of percussion i guess, but i feel like the cowbell is tuned a little weird
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I used Logic Pro X on my MacBook for a long time and got quite good at it but the laptop is now dead beyond repair and I'm left with my PC.

1. Is there any way at all to use Logic on Windows so I don't blow $200
2. If not, is FL Studio really as adequate nowadays as people are saying it is and is it a good replacement for Logic

Or perhaps you have a better alternative program? Most of what I make is glitch made with real-instrument MIDIs
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>>69766139
>twingoposting outside of /o/
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>>69765808
listen to more music. Lurk more. I genuinely have no advice I can give you that would actually help you
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>>69766188
>real-instrument MIDIs
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>>69766227
Yeah, like orchestral and folk sounds and whatnot

I'm aware of how awful that sounds but I like abusing the uncanniness of the instruments for the music. I play several actual instruments too and use those at times
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>>69766190

what are you going to do about it
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>>69766190
>>69766139
>/o/ posters in /prod/ and I've never heard any eurobeat in these threads
For shame.
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How do people think up instrumentals? Where do they start with a song?
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>>69766197
if you can get label what's wrong then your opinion isn't really valid

you must not know enough..
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https://clyp.it/o23gulia

got pic related in the mail today so i wrote and recorded this short demo. whats the easiest way to get only certain snare hits (i.e. the hard ones) to be processed by the reverb? there's got to be an easier way than noise gating or automation. I sent the mic from underneath the snare to a reverb bus, but I think it picks up too much noise from the hi-hats/kick to make a smooth noise gate for just the hard hits going through.
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>>69766188
anyone pls
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>>69767573
aw shit broski it came in! looks great! i see you're a presonusfag, I have some presonus stuff too that I love. the demo sounds great! want to hear moar.

and you're probably just gonna have to automate it brah.
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https://soundcloud.com/annedrank/the-real-nature-of-essence-is-understanding-experiences-within
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>>69766957
I'm not even the guy, but, No, because listing everything would be a waste of time.

>Boring, Incredibly cheesy, copy pasted melody
>Zero mastering
>Too much
>Boring arp
>Boring chords
>Boring hi hat pattern
>No kick
>Zero compression
>Chords so dissonant they sound out of tune
>Bass is lacking low end
>Melody fails to resovle itself
>etc
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>>69768915
that's some warm fuzzy stuff anon. if i was hai right now it would be comfy af.
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>>69768709
yeah man! it's in even better condition than I expected. acts up a tad bit with flutter every now and then, but it might just need brand new tape/a good clean.

yeah, found that firestudio tube for a good price. its tube channels kind of suck though, still more inputs more inputs than I'll probably ever need and a decent amount of inputs.

found an art pro vla tube compressor on craigslist for cheap too, so that might be the next move. good used gear is just finding me, I swear
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>>69768958
yea all of this is true
sorry buddy its just really really really aids
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I've got this sample that I'm using to thicken the stereo image of my track, but there more signal in the left channel than the right.
How should I go about fixing this?
Can't seem to detect where it's coming from using L/R EQing, can't squash it to mono because I need it's width in tact.
Can't seem to compress it hard enough to even it out either.

What do?
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Someone wanted to know how to do Kid A vocals yesterday: they used a Kaoss pad
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> https://clyp.it/ryvv5xx2

Wrote this in finale then exported the .mid to Ableton.
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Oi guys this is /r/EdmProd's discord chat. They are a bunch of faggots where they threaten to ban you if give honest feedback

https://discord.gg/kUYyW
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>>69763339
I don't like the mechanical sequenced lead instrument, but you were prob going for that robot sound. Dunno, its like if you asked a computer to make some jazz please, and it came up with your piece. The third section is pretty cool but I would make it looser and dirty it up.
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>>69766139
>>69766170

https://clyp.it/yy3k02nr

me again
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>>69769208
get nugen stereoizer

or pan the sample so the l and r light meters look averagely even
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>>69762400
you're gonna add singing right? Because it'd sound so much better with vocals.
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pulled an all nighter to make this

https://clyp.it/imxo1wiz

give it a listen peeps and tell me what you think
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>>69769900
>or pan the sample so the l and r light meters look averagely even
huh, I didn't think it was that simple to stabilize it that way
thanks
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>>69771483
first half doesn't vibe well with the second half at all, and the transition doesn't blend well.

both halves sound pretty good tho, so maybe make 2 songs out of it?
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>>69771626
yeah I know exactly what you're saying! I got kinda lazy with it and didn't want to write a verse for that drop or a drop for that verse so I kinda combined 2 different projects just to get them out of the way.
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https://soundcloud.com/cecaelia/max-vangeli-last-night-changed-it-all-cecaelia-remix/s-Og7M9

Unmastered, but I plan on doing that tomorrow.
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>>69771626
>>69771483

I agree fully with this guy. I really dig the intro, but when your orchestral choords come in they swallow everything up slightly too much (your original 8bit pluck needs to be brought out more) and when the second saw pluck comes in you need to bring it down about 3-4 decibles, its loud af
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>>69771905
That said nice work!
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>>69771905
>>69771932

great advice, thanks a lot man!
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>>69772156
No problem man (: would you mind giving my track a listen too?

>>69771786
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>>69771483
hey adam
it's kudzu lol
the two halves don't go together, but they're good in isolation.
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>>69772175
>https://soundcloud.com/cecaelia/max-vangeli-last-night-changed-it-all-cecaelia-remix/s-Og7M9
the first thing that I notice is that the mix sounds flat but that's mostly an issue with it not being mastered yet since loudness tends to change what you hear in a mix. that pluck sounds a bit weak tho I think, and the main part with the drums, I can't tell if that's a drop or just a transition, either way I think you need to have a bit more sidechain to the drums there. Overall great atmosphere and vibes, also like what you're doing with the chords, just sorta trying to understand what this falls under in terms of genre
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>>69772330
yo I'm not Adam, it's Anthony from dicco
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>>69762457
>>69762707
>>69765772
So I'm finally back to my computer and am trying to download Max/MSP but I just realized that
>It's really expensive
>I can't find a crack for OSX

I know Pure Data is the open-source version of Max/MSP, is it worth using in the meantime?
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>tfw trying to write a love song but you realize you suck at guitar and can't right good lyrics
What's the most convenient way to kill myself so the EMTs don't have a hard time?
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>>69772412
The most beautiful love song of all time is electronic bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWnUuosQwZY
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>>69768958
thank you
ill take that all into consideration next time

>>69769200
no worries
i just don't like criticism that isn't backed with reasoning. I can't improve if i don't know what im doing wrong, ya feel
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>>69772344
Haha yeah man i was trying to figure that out for a bit too. When I write music, I write for me rather than other people, and I'm thinking about just calling my work its own genre, since it pulls so many elements of other ones together. I know that sounds cocky, but its an easy solution.
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>>69772359
lol i'm just dumb.
i got you two confused because you both have names that start with a
sorry
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>>69772447
But I don't have a computer
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>>69772412
Never write a love song unless you've got quite a bit of songwriting under your belt already. Otherwise you'll just sound like a 7th grader writing a note to his crush.
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>>69772539
He didn't use a computer either bitch
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>>69772412
kill yourself with a dragon dildo and make it look like an accident
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Here's an ambient track I started working on today. I'm trying to move my music more in that direction, so I'm looking for feedback.

https://clyp.it/x2twjkyo
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>>69772651
What else can I write about? I'm just a depressed 20 year old who hates life. Not much to draw from.
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this is bad and i shouldnt post it but i want to get people mad at me so haha fuck you assholea this song is perfect and you're all jealous!!

https://clyp.it/h4u4fo1b
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Is the korg volca series a waste of money for someone who wants to get into hardware synthesis for cheap? I'm thinking about picking up volca fm so I can get some dx7 sounds without having to emulate or maybe a bass instead. I'm still flirting with the idea.
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https://clyp.it/dvhj0i5r

Having lots of trouble getting the right 'sound'.. Any pointers? Also feedback appreciated. Never made anything like this before tho so idk if it sounds good enough
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https://clyp.it/zhp5iy2h

Something something the drums are like that on purpose
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>>69773264
>https://clyp.it/dvhj0i5r
NEW LINK >>>>>>>> https://clyp.it/dvhj0i5r?token=74490d763144dcf570bf440e713ca417
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>>69772836
write about being a depressed 20 year old who hates life.
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>>69772798
Like the pulsing synth work a lot but they're a little generic and the chord progression isn't all that interesting

Not bad for a first try
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>>69773172
i think you can import dx7 sysex patches to the volca fm
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https://clyp.it/2kh12v5a
just starting to produce. This is the first beat im genuinely happy with, thoughts/suggestions?
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What do I do if I like the songs I come up with on an acoustic guitar but don't know how to flesh them out in a DAW
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>>69774147
>don't know how
start learning how? what's the question here
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>>69774168
I mean I don't know what direction to take it in, like what sounds/instruments to add besides what's played on the guitar. How do you learn that?
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>>69773446
Do you mean that the synth sound is generic or are you referring to the chord progression? Do you think the chord progression should change and evolve more?

I'm used to writing music that I would call "hyper-melodic," where I just tried to make the melodies as satisfying and grand as possible, so I'm trying to force myself to be subtle, but it's hard to know where the line between subtle and boring is.
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>>69774193
>Do you mean that the synth sound is generic or are you referring to the chord progression?
Both

>Do you think the chord progression should change and evolve more?
If you want to focus on the composition and melody aspects I would try it but lots of musicians in the genre get away with the same progression/single chord throughout so it's probably just preference and individual songwriting
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>>69774188
Experimentation
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anyone buying themselves cool gear for the holidays?

I'm checking online and can't find anything I would justify spending money on
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>>69772376
2/3rd of your replies guy here. Pure data is a fantastic starting point. Max did make both after all.
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>>69774868
Yeah I picked it up a few minutes ago and I'm watching videos on YouTube and playing along. Feel like I'm learning to play Dwarf Fortress again but I figure it'll def be worth it.

Thanks for the advice Anon
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>>69774467
i cant find anything either i can justify spending on everything i want is out of my price range anyways so i figure i will wait this year and buy next year
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>>69771483
bruh s that the pokemon gym music at the beginning
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https://clyp.it/dm0nycr4

got REmake recently

yeeeee
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>>69767573
I love it
>>69769599
Turn the bass turn by 6db and add more distortion
>>69771483
Muh limiter
>>69772798
This is nice, maybe add another subtle element.
>>69772964
Could be a cool glitch track if you work with those drums.
>>69773269
Make the drums louder in the mix, turn down the harmonics on the synth or filter it a little.
>>69774018
Add more elements with unique sounds to stop it becoming generic, turn down the kick a fraction. But nice tune.
>>69775383
The left panned snare makes my autism kick in, maybe add more character and distortion to the bass and turn it down 3db. I like the bass line in it.

https://clyp.it/2bs1piik
I think i need to improve the bass in this track, it still seems way too muddy to me.
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I decided I want to eventually incorporate hardware into my music, as well as my live sessions so I'm looking for a mixer/interface with room for expansion. I need something that'll allow me to monitor each input as a separate signal in my daw's mixer. For instance, let's say I had a microbrute and I wanted to route the sound into FL's mixer so I can use Effector or some type of vst plugin for effects.

I was looking at both the Multimix 8 USB FX and the Q-1202-USB, which are both around the size I need, but I don't know if they actually have the capability I need. Can someone point me in the right direction?
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>>69776668
Does FL have the ability to record external audio sources? Last time i checked it didn't, thought that was one of FL's major drawbacks
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>>69776668

I can only speak from experience with the Alesis mixers, but I can confirm that the USB 2.0 variants of the Multimix 8 and 16 model will allow you to run each mixer channel (plus the stereo mix bus) into your DAW separately, so in the case of the 8 channel mixer in your image you'll have 10 input sources in your DAW for that device.
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>>69778035

Oh, meant to add because it's something you might also want.

The Multimix USB 2.0 does send each channel separately, but it only returns a stereo mix back from the DAW to the mixer - if you want true multi-channel I/O you'll either need to go for something like the Mackie 1640i or a separate mixer and multi-channel audio interface.
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Guys, why does my waveform look so shit?


https://clyp.it/ievha01u
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This is a beat that I made using Casio keyboard samples

https://clyp.it/js55bl3q

Tell me what you think
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>>69772489
nah it's not cocky, innovation is good.

>>69772530
I want to listen to your wip where it at

>>69775260
ya I think I jacked it from Pokemon but I'm not entirely sure, the idea was kinda stuck in my head for a while.

>>69776305
the bass and pads drown the kick in the mix, you should bring those down a bit and at least sidechain the bass to the kick.

>>69778505
this is pretty amazing, only thing I noticed as a downside is that the bass sounds kinda static, I'd play around with some pitch bends to make it way groovier, but this is fuckin gold, chill and funky, mix is nice and clean, love this.
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>>69778505
this is really nice
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>>69778505
>les animaux
>pas de samples d'animaux
shiggy diggy
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>>69778554
it's kudzu, and i can't. ableton is being autistic and won't save
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>>69778716
>>69778554
to answer your question tho, i'm trying to recreate this song.
https://soundcloud.com/swll/well-both-be-out-soon-1?in=kudzuofficial/sets/inspiration
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why dont you guys have a discord?
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>>69779424
We do. Only a couple people really care about it though.
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https://soundcloud.com/sorewigg/racistwhiteman-garbage

PRODUCED THIS TRACK FOR MY BOY RACISTWHITEMAN

>JEWISH
>GOYSHIT
>GETLITBITCH
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>>69779600
is this ironic
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>>69779424
https://discord.gg/cwFxb
there, if you're interested
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>Come across the Machinedrum
>Listen to clips of it and realize it sounds fuckin crazy
>$800+
Is there a cheaper alternative that I can squeeze similar sounds out of?
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https://soundcloud.com/taskbeatsandraps/luna
>hip hop
>brand new posted 2day
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>>69780012
fuck off with this shit
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>>69780012
Get out of /prod/ and stay out until you can actually read, retard
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What are your guys' habits when making synths? It can be good or bad.

I'm just curious.
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>>69780012
You stupid, lazy faggot.
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What do you guys use your pad controllers for?
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https://clyp.it/vkdfohig

I made a thing
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This is a song I 'finished' last night, but I feel like it can be improved on the production front. Any feedback you guys can give me? Thanks a bunch.

https://clyp.it/wxbm23ja
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How do I decide which musical idea (motif/theme) I should choose to continue working on? I like/dislike all of them equally and there are at least a hundred of them.
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someone's commissioning me for ~a minute of music for a podcast, a 25-30s intro and 20-25s outro. their favorite piece on my soundcloud is the below.
>https://soundcloud.com/miasmadison/twitterpate-louder
we haven't named any numbers about my fee, and I'm just gonna cave and name the first number. what should that number be? I think I'm charging a flat rate for the piece and an hourly rate for revisions.
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>>69784323
also, as far as musical direction goes, their request was "like Twitterpate, but maybe more whimsical"
I'm gonna ask them to clarify, but what does "whimsy" sound like?
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>>69783661
1. number them
2. generate a number in that range at random or pseudorandom
3. commit to working on the motif so-selected for whatever seems like a reasonable amount of time, and do not stop or switch motifs until that time period has elapsed
4. continue working on that motif if it's going well, or start again at step 2
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>>69784353
You want to get royalties every time its played
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>>69784615
okay. so Z per-play (or per-episode?) in addition to the flat rate X and the hourly revision rate Y, I assume? do you have suggested values for X, Y, and/or Z
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>>69784672
Sorry I don't actually know what I'm talking about. I think someone has to monitor the number of plays and apra or public publisher pays you can't remember
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