Gonna try out heroin for the first time in a few hours. What

>>69738282
lel, you won't need any music while your high, you won't be able to concentrate or care about it anyways

>>69738282
Something that will make you want to kill yourself.

>>69738282
Heroin has the side-effect of making you unable to appreciate music.

The opposite of weed.

>>69738282
please please don't man
if you're having a hard or uncertain time right now I'm begging you please don't do it
everything in life is a vacuum and living is overcoming it and learning just to live despite it
please man do it for me

also be fucking careful or whatever in case there's like any fentanyl in it

>>69738282
hope u'll get addicted soon

Slow Painful Death by Your Future

I want to do heroin so badly. Fucking needles.

>>69738282
The sound of your justly deserved overdose.

Seriously you retard, don't do opiates.

>>69738300
>>69738323
wow really?
i won't be able to perceive anything?

>>69738375
go fuck yourself, and while I'm at it fuck humanity.

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Enjoy your addiction

>tfw I don't drink, smoke anything and inject anything
Feels good man

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>mfw I see these posts more and more on 4chan
>mfw close family member is a heroin addict and can't quit
they lost all of their teeth, spend a lot of the time living in filth (those neet stories with piss bottles and shitboxes? yea, that), and will probably die really young just due to the damage to their body

if you're gonna do it, do your family and friends a favor and just fucking kill yourself you piece of shit

>>69738407
Better not cut yourself on that edge kiddo

>>69738379
you'll preceive it but you won't enjoy it

>>69738282
Please don't. It ruins your life if that wasn't made clear enough already. Stop while you can, seriously.

>>69738407
Yes my man, fuck humanity and your own precious, fragile life.
I'm sure neither have any intrinsic value, and you will never regret this choice at all.

t. ex punk who lost three friends to oxy and heroin.

>>69738419
I honestly hope your family member dies
you deserve it for being a frogposter, and a preachy one at that.

Seriously you deserve it for those precise reasons.

>>69738374
Don't. It ruins your life. Please don't. It's not worth it.

>>69738467
>>69738419
>boo hoo my friends died so some anonymous retard on an imageboard shouldn't die

stop projecting.
Like sometimes it's okay to project, but seriously? Projecting your close friends and family members on some random asshole?

Sounds like you never thought highly of your relatives in the first place.

>>69738501
Thank you, but it's really not hard to be cooler than a frogposter. Especially a frogposter who thinks his opinion carries any authority.

>>69738469
Are you seriously telling this guy you hope his family member dies because he POSTED A FROG on an IMAGEBOARD? Be honest with me, are you a retard?

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>>69738419
>>mfw close family member is a heroin addict and can't quit
>do your family and friends a favor and just fucking kill yourself you piece of shit

so you'd also suggest your close family member who's probably also a piece of shit to you to kill themselves?
To me you sound like a piece of shit

>>69738538
You're seriously getting so mad about this guy just posting a random picture on an imageboard. Chill out.

>>69738282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8hT3oDDf6c

>>69738545
Are YOU a retard?
I literally (literally) said "seriously" in my post >>69738469

re-read it

>Seriously you deserve it

and yet you're asking me whether I'm serious or not?

>>69738551
I don't think he meant it that way to be fair

>>69738495
Assuming that you're serious, are you so devoid of empathy you don't understand the average person doesn't want other people to suffer needlessly?

>>69738554
I know, it's not very reasonable to be mad, but it's still more reasonable than being a preachy frogposter (which is not the same as posting a random picture) so it's not me you should be talking to.

i cant wait to do heroin and be just like the cute boys in my american rock bands!! (≧ω≦)

>>69738565
You're avoiding the main point of my post. I don't give a shit about that part, that's just an expression I say when I'm in disbelief at something or someone that's fucking retarded.

>>69738573
Are you so devoid of common sense as to not realize that not wanting people to suffer needlessly is retarded?

Of course people don't want each other to suffer needlessly (most of the time) but they should, and some people care more about morals (people getting what they deserve) than about empathy.

Surely you can understand that.

Not worth it.

t. 5 year addict, 2 years clean

>>69738593
Then clearly your post didn't have a point.
You're explaining to me that it was just a spontaneous brainfart that had no purpose. You were expressing disbelief. Big fucking deal.

Restrain yourself next time.

>>69738608
So your sense of morality is based around punishing people rather than encouraging them to avoid mistakes that fuck up their lives?

>>69738282
before heroin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q7Vr3yQYWQ

after heroin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbDOe_V8KqI

before heroin
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/66/e4/a3/66e4a35b8a353aab15410f8afa66db1f.jpg

after heroin
http://i.imgur.com/UA3Feq2.jpg
then dead

your choice

>>69738647
Yes it's based on justice rather than on kindness.

>>69738569
I know, just wanted to show him how cruel he sounds

>tfw really want to try heroin

You'll cowards won't even shoot up. For real though it seems great.

I guess you could listen to Hurt by Johnny Cash.

>>69738467
>>69738467
Whatever dude, people die, that's what they do.

Don't do it, seriously

Lmao why would you try heroin

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>>69738557
>>69738657
you choose

As a former addict I can confirm 100% that every single person to willingly try heroin is a fucking idiot of the greatest proportions.

Even if you survive your life will be completely fucked. Stop being an edgy / early 20 something teen and think about your future.

>>69738760
Why wouldn't you?

>all these people who did heroin here on /mu/
lmao, why am I not surprised.

if you guys were straight edge, you guys would be browsing /r/LTM instead

>>69738620
much love, fellow junkie. I had the same journey, using 6 years, clean for almost 2 now.
>>69738282
OP, take it from an ex-junkie, don't do it. it'll teach you that it doesnt matter if you are strong, smart, willful, proud, etc. all those things disappear in time, the stranglehold is near complete.

and all these other people are right, you'll stop caring about music, about art, film, about friends, about girls/boys, about family, about life.

listen to this and flush the dope:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ6lB7FKxi8

>>69738778

Lol that picture on the left is not "before heroin" at all.

>all these people caring and saying don't do it
honestly just let OP do it, let him fuck his own life up. he doesn't care what you all are saying anyway so just let the idiot drown in his own piss

You'll be more interested in movies OP.

Don't do H for more than a few days, and don't hang around junkies or have junkie friends.

>>69738414
>addiction

He's using it for the first time not the hundredth.
>>69738419
Heroins not a stimulant, it won't make you lose your teeth as long as you take care of them(also don't brush your teeth after you barf, just rinse with water and brush in an hour)

>>69738898
How many addicts do you think start off just doing it "one time"?

>>69738907
Dude, I know plenty of people who did it just to try it or only do it every so often.

It's called self control.

>>69738907
All of them. And how many people who've tried heroin but aren't addicted started off just doing it "one time"?

Think buddy, think.

>>69738936
less than the number of people than get addicted

>>69738924
I had friends like that too. Their all dead now except for one. Time is a bitch.

>>69738785
look at your average heroin addict, that's why.
>inb4 I'm only going to try it once!

>>69738374
You can simply snort H you dumbass
If you didnt know something as simple as that ide stay away

>>69738967
>less than the number of people than get addicted
Can you prove that? Because I highly doubt that. I think you're just saying that with no real reason other than personal biases.
>I had friends like that too
No ya didn't. Opiates are safe as long as you're not a junkie and they're not cut with anything. The only time people really OD is when they're just being absolute fucking idiots, trying to, or have just relapsed.

>>69738620
UNDER THE BRIDGE DOWNTOWN IS WHERE I DREW SOME BLOOD

>>69739017
>Opiates are safe as long as you're not a junkie

Says every pre junkie ever.

You're delusional if you think doing this shit is safe. By all means though, go ahead and abuse. See where it gets you.

>>69738967
Yeah and I've had friends who never so much as drank and they died. Shit happens.

Don't know how they died if they rarely used it/only tried it unless the OD'd.

>>69738981
If I ever do try it, I'll try it once. (Then I'll try it more if I like the high)

Just space the uses out, big whoop. Same way I treat alcohol.

>>69739038
>If I ever do try it, I'll try it once. (Then I'll try it more if I like the high)
>Just space the uses out, big whoop. Same way I treat alcohol.
Enjoy your addiction, poor naive bastard. It's all the same to me.

>>69739036
Alright buddy. Tell me what happens when you take a reasonable dose of opiates for your tolerance level? Like what bad thing happens. I wanna hear what you think happens.

>>69738324
fag

>>69738470
>taking this shit seriously

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>>69738898
>Implying you don't get hooked on that shit

>>69738282
dont do heroin you fucking mong

>>69739111
You can, but that doesn't mean you will.

>>69739076
It makes you think that opiates are safe.

All it takes is one bad batch to kill you. It's not like this shit is regulated at a street level. People get death bags all the time. My addict friend that is still alive literally died and was brought back to live in an ambulance after snorting a tiny little test bump of when ended up being fentanyl. Even when you're trying to be safe you can die.

>>69739070
It's not really an addiction if you don't feel compelled to partake in it.

I drink like once a month and simply stay buzzed all day.

Not like I'm going to be shooting up 2 or 3 times a day or some shit.

>>69739132
23 percent of people who try opiates get addicted

Why take the risk? Do you hate your family and friends? You like to see them suffer?

>>69739162
>23%

Those are pretty good odds anon.

>>69739162
That's a statistic that's estimated based off how many people are thought to be addicted compared to how many people are thought to have tried it. Hardly proof. And that's just heroin, not opiates in general

>>69738469
kys thx (:

>>69739181
You're still gambling with your life.

When you're gambling with something that is priceless is getting high worth it?

>>69739120
This.
Most people who do drugs can manage their intake and experimentation somewhat, but heroin seeming like a good idea should always be the end of the road admittance that you have a problem, or are at least trying to acquire one.

>ctrl F
>no Earth

https://youtu.be/Ls1OYn_xGzM
Made by a heroin addict who had to stop playing for years to recover

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>tfw buddy had his mind set on trying heroin
>we try to talk him out of it
>"I'll only try it once, you can't get addicted that way"
>barely hear from him, don't see him in any classes anymore
>drops out of college half a year later
>his mom calls me to ask if he's at my place one night
>he didn't come home the previous night
>turns out he overdosed at a friend's house
It's been 5 years and I can't get his crying mother's call out my head.

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take lsd or ecstasy or something
not fucking heroine nigga

>>69738282
The police, reading you your rights (if you have any) after they've swooped in to arrest you. You're toast.

>>69739222
Pfft, my life is worth like two pennies and an empty box of cereal of course I'd gamble on it for pleasure.

>>69739222
Life is worthless, it has no value except what you place on it.

Everyone dies so what's the point on missing out on something you want to do due to the thought of "I may die".

Honestly, I'd have more regret if I lived to get old and looked back not having done it.

>>69739197
So it could also be higher as well.

I'm not going to try to argue with you anymore. If you're going to do it, do it.

Darwinism will sort you all out one way or another.

>>69738282
>try out heroin

hahaha have fun destroying your life

>>69738469
holy fucking shit dude

>>69739274
>Life is worthless

You clearly have mental issues, making you even more susceptible to addiction.

Have fun with your life choices man.

why are all the best musical artists on some sort of drugs, why can't they be straight edge so we can look up to them. do drugs help or hinder creativity?

>>69738545
Wow. You're pretty sensitive aren't ya?

>>69738282

Being unintelligent enough to think trying heroin is a good idea

>>69739089
Asshole

>>69739311
Obviouly?
Do you know what "psychedelic" means?

>>69739303
Lmao.

I'm a realist. Life doesn't have some great higher purpose.

You're born, you do shit, you die.

If you believe other than that I feel you may have some issues yourself.

>>69739332
never been on drugs because im a good boy so i wouldn't know

>>69739311
as a musician, 100% help. every single drug

>>69739324
>>69739324
>>69739324

>>69739274
>It has no inherent value so I can just throw it in the trash, it'll end anyways
This is a stupid fucking argument. Nothing has inherent value, but I fail to believe that you honestly do not value your own life at all. The fact that it will one day be over makes it all the more valuable.
>>69739311
Hardship inspires creativity

So many replies, no actual music.

Souls of Mischief - '93 'til Infinity
Pharcyde - Runnin'
Crazy Town - Butterfly

>>69738657
can't tell whose worse in the second link, page or bonzo

>>69739311
Listen to straight edge hardcore

This thread is a shitshow. Enjoy your drugs, if you're doing it because of peer pressure from a junkie, don't fuck with that guy anymore after this, put on your favorite albums, and don't go for more.

ALL DRUGS ARE PERFECTLY FINE IN MODERATION

>>69738799
The fuck is that subreddit?

>>69739356
>Crazy Town
Lmao

>>69738419
I feel for you. I have an addict in my family that is essentially homeless and prostitutes themself for heroin. It's rough.

You're all degenerates

>>69739346
>le baby nihilism

grow the fuck up dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPo2vYTldY8

>>69739383
Nail on the head. The entire point is that you won't be able to enjoy your hard drugs in moderation for long.

>>69739253
jesus dude

where was this anyway?

>>69738324
Not OP, but: Life is shit, and any escape from that shit is a worthwhile pursuit.

>>69738282
Listen to Lemmy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTPd9Tm9cPU

>>69739384
/r/letstalkmusic, where lots of people from the RYM, sharethreads and lots of tripfags went to a few years ago when the quality on /mu/ nosedived perceptibly

>>69739353
>>It has no inherent value so I can just throw it in the trash, it'll end anyways

Yeah man, that's exactly it.

I'm here to please myself as I see fit. The stupid junkie that OD's in an alley is the same as the person who cures cancer in the end.

>>69738282
Heroin: the album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLiWgvMEPZ8

>>69739351
interesting, planning to make some music myself as im learning guitar. might have to get some ganja. no hard shit though.
>>69739369
ill try it out

>>69739311

Drugs are used for comfort, they make your stress and fears seem a lot more distant. Art (especially music) is usually an expression of anxiety and/or hardship. The two go hand in hand, drugs can cause hardship and vice versa

>>69739427
>babbies first nihilism/hedonism
You're a riot. How old are you?

>>69739427
>The stupid junkie that OD's in an alley is the same as the person who cures cancer in the end

Jesus fucking Christ you're delusional.

>>69739402
Wow you sure had him there friendo!

>>69739418
if you seek escape, then why not just kill yourself and ease the burden of your sorry ass from the rest of us?

Ever consider how incredibly selfish it is to just engage in hedonistic pleasures why the rest of society has to continue working to support the civilization structure that supports your habit? Why should society even tolerate this at all if that is your attitude towards life and the world that surrounds you?

Also, being hooked on opioids is literally the worst. You don't get "dopesick" as long as you're on the opioids, but when you decide to stop your body starts throwing a goddamn hissyfit and makes you feel like you have the flu and have no appetite.

>>69739461
It's not delusion, it's realism.

I don't see what's so hard to comprehend about that.

>>69739468
Hopefully once you reach your early 20s you will start to see the world differently.

>>69739418
That's what you have music for. Heroin is a form of escape, but it's one way and feels like cancer.

>>69739479
its not and you have to be severely deluded to think so. This is why people make fun of nihilists.

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>>69738282
THISSSSSS or the love club

>>69738300
this is true but its not like he wouldnt listen to anything

shrooms are the best "safe" drug you can do, along with weed

and I think weed can be pretty bad, i think its psychological dependence and how it can fuck up your memory is pretty shit

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>>69738282
listen to this op, maybe you will think twice
https://youtu.be/nIDnN34ZZaE

>>69739479
What is realistic about a junkie curing cancer?

You're saying that people who contribute to society and those who leach off it are the same.

>>69739089

Shut up cunt, you don't have any idea what this drug is like.

OP, don't be an idiot. You'll regret this decision for the rest of your life.

the velvet underground is essential heroin music

>>69739477
>waah waah muh wagecuck civilization
Not him but this is literally the worst argument you can attempt to use

>>69739406
Manhattan

>>69739514
wow, you sure showed how bad it is with you greentext

>>69739479
Try reading a book, nigger

>>69739504
Yeah, they're the same in the end. Dead is dead, no one is more dead than another. They're equal.

>>69739526
wow, you sure showed me how right you are with that ebin ironic banter

>>69739535
One of the helped people, the other didn't. What really matters is how your life shaped the lives of people around you.

>>69739418
Trying to escape life is for pussies

>>69739496
>listening to Lorde on Heroin

God no, i'd rather just overdose.

Suicide

>>69739418
Thing is, opiates make you numb, and the reason your body (AND MIND) feels pain is so that you know if there is something wrong. If something is wrong, you have to try to fix it, otherwise it will only get worse. If you just treat the symptoms, but not the cause, you will succumb to the cause eventually. Please consider this.

>>69739535
Read some actual philosophical works before spouting your simplistic views on life.

>>69739540
I actually made an argument though, you just respond with snark. if you want a better response then actually post something worthwhile.

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>>69738419

>Have friend in highschool
>visit his house eventually
>Pretty poor living conditions, not a lot of food or money, mixes water into milk for his cereal because there isn't enough for everyone
>eventually realized his family is full of drug addicts and his mother was a heroin addict
>we both realize that both of our mothers were, actually
>bond over the fact that they actually both, by some insane coincidence, happened to be drug smugglers/did time for smuggling heroin and that mine even did it inter-continentally
>realize even though life is stable now, I could have grown up poor, in a dilapitated neighbourhood, like him

It's a horrible drug, you'll always think you'll just have a taste, but it gets to you. Same as meth.

>>69739535
their contributions are not equal.

>>69739567
this.

I've just finished Candide yesterday and feel so much happier with life for some reason, even thought it's essentially an collection of Enlightment fables

>all this moral fagging

Who cares if OP wants to kill himself and ruin the lives of his family members.

>>69739570
For whatever reason you seem to naively think that heroin is only possible because the users leeching from society. Is that really so? The only reason they receive our healthcare is because we decide to give it to them. Is it an economical burden? There are just as many, if not more addicts in poor countries.
>Why should society even tolerate this at all if that is your attitude towards life and the world that surrounds you?
Why do you? Clearly these people want to be left alone and all you have to offer is bitchy-mother tier trash talk. Great job talking an addict out of it, idiot.

>>69738282
Morphine is the best I've ever felt in my life, if I had access to heroin, I would be overdosing on it every day of my life, I encourage anyone who is chasing that high, it's completely worth it

>>69739547
Still the same in the end. We're talking about death, not life.

Everyone he affected will die eventually, and so on and so forth. Eventually the planet itself will die.

It's all the same.

>>69739567
The fact that you need books to tell you a view on life comes off as pathetic to me. It's life, if you can't understand then I don't know what to tell you.

You definitely don't need a damn book for it.

>>69739616
Is Morphine better than sex?

>>69738368
underrated

inb4 OP is trolling and this whole thread has taken the bait

>>69739181
I'd say go for it. You got about 23% of us saying do it. And the rest saying no.

>>69738657
holy shit Jimmy Page sucked before doing heroin too

>>69739625
No, sex is better with morphine. Takes longer to finish, but my god is it satisfying

>>69739621
>The fact that you need books to tell you a view on life comes off as pathetic to me.
It's funny to me that you think that. Please, keep yourself safe from any conflicting views or you might just change your mind! People much smarter than you have thought about all of these things before and the fact that you disregard all of them shows just how stupid you really are.
>It's life, if you can't understand then I don't know what to tell you.
What did he mean by this? Are you implying life is simple or easy to understand?

>>69738300
I've done H once and this sums it up nicely, you'll just zone out. Music or TV on in the background is pleasant but don't expect to focus on any of it.

Have a bucket nearby too, notorious for making first timers vomit. And not being judgemental but I hope you come out with the same view as me, nice experience but the long term damage and risks far outweigh doing it again.

>>69739356
Why did you choose those songs? Just curious. I know one of the guys from Pharcyde was on crack really bad. But why Souls of Mischief?

>>69739621
>We're talking about death, not life
This is dumb. If you're talking about death, anything compassing life besides the fact that it exists does not matter to the discussion. In other words, you are trying to justify that 1+2=3 because apples are red.

>You definitely don't need a damn book for it.
This is the great thing about philosophy. Its like a secret society. Its like a filter; people inclined to rationality study it, while some incomprehensively prideful and ignorant people reject it.
Note that this is coming from a guy who likes Max Stirner, but that probably means nothing for you, because, you know, you're speaking of shit you never researched.

>>69739643
It's more like everyone is bored and wants to talk about drugs instead of Pitchfork's album of the year for a change. No one is taking this seriously.

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>>69738282

>>69739610
>For whatever reason you seem to naively think that heroin is only possible because the users leeching from society. Is that really so? The only reason they receive our healthcare is because we decide to give it to them. Is it an economical burden?

Yes, if you decide to use an addictive drug that consumes your life, and destroys whatever healthy and productive life you had before, and you still chose to stay within your country or society then you are a leech. You enjoy the benefits of the security and infrastructure built up by hardworking people, while consuming foods and products ensured by hardworking people, and whatever benefits mandated by the system while choosing to give nothing back.

>There are just as many, if not more addicts in poor countries.

Maybe they think about why they are poor, and if doing drugs is anyway of getting out of poverty.

>Why do you? Clearly these people want to be left alone and all you have to offer is bitchy-mother tier trash talk.

He doesn't want to be left alone, or he would fuck off of whatever country of territory he lives in and wastes away on some un inhabited landmass. He wants to enjoy an easy stream of pleasure while living off the system that everyone else works to keep going.

>Great job talking an addict out of it, idiot.
I wasn't arguing with him, I was arguing with another person justifying such a dumb idea like doing heroin with a "life sux you might as well just indulge in escapism", you retard.

>>69739676
>>69739685
Just lol.

It's life.

You can act all pretentious since you read some book from your college's library but it doesn't change life.


>>69739676
>Are you implying life is simple or easy to understand?

It is once you accept that there is nothing to understand outside of life existing. Life is all there is to live for.

>>69739749
>Lmao it's life! There's nothing to understand! You trying to understand it doesn't change anything!
>Life is all there is to life for.
You're coming up with all these theories about life and death and then tell me that there's nothing to understand?
How ironic.

>>69739749
It doesnt take immense arrogance and ignorance to feel perhaps you've found the truth about it all in your lifetime. But it sure does to take that for granted, and to think you solved it, while you never even seen any of the work of men today and in the last 2500 years.
I cant fathom how irrational this is.

>>69739311
an artistic temperament often requires experimentation, or at the very least thinking outside the box. drugs since the beginning of time have been used to expand consciousness or to escape reality. creativity and drugs mixing is a no brainer

>>69739803
Because there isn't anything to understand outside that life is life and death is death?

I don't think those are theories as much as they are "no shit" statements.

>>69739834
Truth in what?

Life?

I've found out that I exist, and that as of now I am alive.

Only truth there is I do believe.

dude just take heroine lmao

>>69738414
>being proud of not using ANY substances whatsoever

Pathetic.

And no, I'm not saying the other way around is good.

>>69738282
>What should I listen to while i'm high?
Your irregular heartbeats.

>>69739970
why is that pathetic

some people just never want to cloud their judgement, that's cool

>>69740010
>implying sobriety doesn't cloud your judgement as well
>implying all drugs cloud your judgement
>implying smart use of some substances doesn't actually make your judgement better

Like wow man

>>69738778
"before" should be before they've recorded first album.

>>69740054
sure they can be enlightening, and I'm not praising him as some clear headed demigod for never touching anything

just think staying completely sober is a perfectly fine lifestyle choice. not pathetic or ignorant

>>69740010
/mu/ will cloud your judgement worst then any drug will. On Drugs all music sounds great. After browsing /mu/ for an hour you hate all music.

everyone I knew who took it, ended up addicted to it or dead from it.

>>69740117

Sure being sober is fine but having smoked weed and gotten drunk, I have a hard time saying I wouldn't do it again.

>>69738379
You won't percieve, you will only feel. Also enjoy aids

>>69740117
Understood. And I agree with you - as I agree with a lifestyle choice where there's a safe and smart use of drugs to benefit an individual's life.

My old weed dealer shoots H and isn't an addict. He'll go on a binge doing lots of it for a few days then not touch it for a month.

>>69740165
That's just pleasure and not very enlightening. Thanks for proving someone else's point.

>>69740213

But creativity man

>>69738344
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>>69739599

underage edgelords with no knowledge or authority of what they're actually talking about

>>69740191
Don't the physical withdrawals get to him though?

And that's some serious discipline to be able to freely pick up and drop smack.

>>69740260
Let me make up a story about how I was an addict so I can try to dissuade people from having life experiences.

Then I can be an authority too?

Consider this: If you don't do heroin you're a fucking faggot. Life is shit, you need to have a release, a way to feel good, you gotta put yourself out of reality using substances. It's what escapism is all about. If you don't at least appreciate this sentiment you shouldn't even be listening to music, you can't understand the true pain and struggle of an artist. Heroin exists, it feels great, and it's entirely possible to be moderate and not fuck up your life, contrary to popular belief, but even if you do, fuck it, being sober is a drag. Some people need substances, not because life is terrible, but it's bad enough to make temporarily better using drugs.

>>69738282
wow this thread has derailed completely anyway these "what do i listen to on x drug" threads are dumb
just listen to whatever you like and then it'll (usually) sound even better. Though heroin doesn't really have great effect on music like lsd does so keep that in mind

>>69740304
You're an idiot.
>>69740346
That is a retarded ass logic. Loser to the core.

>>69740191
>binge once a month
>doesn't get withdrawals
I might as well just do benzos or xanax instead at that point

>>69739311
Well, listen to some straight edge music like punk-hardcore
It will be
>uncreative
>unoriginal
>uncolorful
>unambitious sonically
>all of it will come from a single headspace
But hey its loud and its music

>>69740346
Life is whatever you make of it.

If you're a retard and a failure, sure it sucks. Go ahead and kill yourself slowly and miserably. About halfway through the process you'll be sick of it. You'll be sick of living like a dredge with piss and shit soaked pants freezing your ass off in a homeless shelter. You'll wish you could quit, but you'll find it takes a lot more willpower than you ever had. The last 5 years of your life will see you sobbing between highs about how you completely blew any modicum of potential that you had, you'll die afraid and alone and unfulfilled.

I mean you could do acid or shrooms which are likely to put your ass in gear, but no you don't actually want to be successful. That would require a small amount of effort and willpower, which you completely lack. You'd rather kill yourself, but you're too pussy to swallow a bullet.

What a waste of a life.

>>69740346
>Some people need substances, not because life is terrible, but it's bad enough to make temporarily better using drugs.
That's some prime bait there.

>>69738282
Merzbow - pulse demon is the only right answer

>>69740003
I kek'd

>>69740346
Nah. I mean I occasionally use a wide array of different drugs and I agree with the spirit of what you're saying to a certain extent but at the same time, I completely see why someone would want to be straightedge. Doing drugs can be a fucking chore sometimes tbqh. Weed ruins my productivity for the entire night and makes me feel hazy the next day. I find amphetamines to be genuinely uncomfortable and unpleasant. Opiates nauseate me and completely sap me of my energy for the next 24-36 hours or so. LSD/Mushrooms are just a mental slog that I can only handle every couple of months or so. I could go on but what I'm saying is that as I get older it's starting to get physically harder and harder to enjoy drugs like I used to.

Really wish hypodermic needles weren't posted. This thread should be deleted and the OP should be banned.

you pinning or smoking? either way stay safe, enjoy how good the first time is, & all of this, full screen, sit back :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV1dhdIUz5U

>>69740575
why? does it trigger you, you and you only in this thread?

go to red.dit with that attitude fuckboy

>>69738419
If you're ever considering heroin or meth also consider suicide and then hopefully decide on neither
Heroin is basically suicide, if you don't die from your addiction your personality/ego will be so broken by the drug that you'll basically be a really shitty version of the person you were before.

At least with suicide your family and friends won't be disgusted and depressed over how you're killing yourself and putting them all in debt at the same time.

>>69740586

not him but you do realise it can take the weather being similar to the day you used last used to trigger you into a relapse. addiction turns your brain against you.

>>69740525
Or I could just enjoy my simple life, my job and friends with occasional drug use. Not everyone is gonna be successful.

>>69740612

two moths of heroin/crack use offered insights into myself & life as a whole far more than i got from psychedelics. hard drugs are not total filth & death as awful as they are. i wouldn't however say they're any worse for people than the current socio-economic climate. people are so fucked in the head now, there's not a sane person left so it's no fucking wonder people run scared from that.

>>69740525

>le "psychedelics taught me the meaning of life" meme

>>69740670
Everyone has the potential to be successful.

Being successful isn't a six figure salary and a vacation home in a foreign country, you do realize.

>>69740685
I can almost see the little bit of drool running out of your split lips and down your sweaty t shirt as you try and mouth the words "socio-economic climate" while writing that fucking retarded post

>>69740780

it's true my meds do make me sweat & drool & i am also a fucking idiot

>>69739501
Shrooms are safer than weed apart from the risk of a bad trip

>>69740730
Psychadelics don't teach you the way of life, they use your reward pathway as a catalyst to point out your flaws and rub your nose in them until you feel so disgusted about them that you can't ignore them anymore and seek to grow beyond them.

>>69739346
Y'all need Nietzsche

>>69740685

people don't need difficult experiences to know themselves, so i would be careful what you're encouraging people to do

i've been there with various substances and by far the most traumatic was an overdose psychedelic trip gone wrong, definitely fucked me up for many months

would i take it back? no, because i learned something, but you can't excuse the fact that you learned something the hard way, and that its much easier to just enjoy your life with a glass of wine and good company with friends

>>69740847
>thinking people on /mu/ have the stamina to read Nietzche
let the start with fiction at the least

>>69738282

I hope you end up overdosing.

>>69740817
Not really.

Weed is a super weak psychadelic and there are about 15 million ways to take it that remove the health concerns of inhaling burning plant matter.

Shrooms can cause extreme damage to your mental state, and prolonged usage can cause you to develop extreme psychosis and delusions, regardless of the quality of the trip.

>>69740685
I can get that, full blown stim psychosis had a pretty profound effect on me. Hallucinatory conversations with yourself isn't an experience you forget and was actually quite self-reflective, not scary at all.

I realise that sounds like insane ramblings but those who've also been there will know exactly what I mean.

>>69738282
Watch The Wire
The credits music is top tier heroin-core

>>69740847
Nietzsche is outdated and irrelevant.

Cosmicism or go home, faggot.

>>69739573
Meth isn't as bad, statistically anyway

Listen up. The 'one time' you do an intensely dopaminergic drug like heroin, your brain gets rewired. If you think your idea of 'self control' is gonna protect you from what is essentially a hardware-level hack on the brain, you are sorely mistaken.

>>69739573

>mixing milk with water

why not just eat granola and drink water my dude

Since this is now a drug thread how much do you think is the average cost for like five pills of Mandy?
Also is morphine any good and how much do you need and how much does it cost?

Sorry I'm bad at the drooogs

>>69740889
Numbers means shit. It will still fuck you up.

>>69740849
that post was ill thought out i know. but there really is a certain type of person probably shaped by life experiences that thrives almost off of learning the hard way. i've tried to settle down multiple times & grown restless yet i wish for nothing more sometimes than being able to enjoy life on simple terms & i'm sure many feel the same. i guess what i was & still am trying to get across is people should feel no guilt for self medication & even self destruction. i think we as a society shy from death far too much. the physical body in the long term is no big deal & neither is the reality you perceive. be kind to others but have autonomy for yourself even if that leads to an early death.

>>69740863
Thus spoke Zarathustra is technically fiction

>>69738282
Don't do it anon, drugs are terrible for you

>>69738282
You're making a terrible mistake. Heroin is an ACTUAL *DRUG*. Like cocain, meth, and PCP. It is not comparable to anything like weed or opiates.

I hope you die though, because you seem to be incapable of listening to people.

tfw vicariously living through memes & reading because all the dopamine in your head is gone & sometimes if you read long enough you get to dissociate & forget how much you just want to be fucked the heck up every single second

>>69740891
I don't know, i flushed a baggie after a couple nights nodding for the time. admittedly I was snorting and being precautionary with dosage, but I definitely had a very nice time and could see the appeal

never touched the stuff again, and my willpower is shit. heavy abuser of multiple other substances

>>69740926
i hear you and i agree that the guilt trip is just another layer of garbage, i think its important to learn to love parts of life that are more tame and it definitely takes practice and something im still working on

>>69738988
But that's how the girl in pulp fiction ODs

>>69741032
she thought it was coke because he had very good heroin.

doing a giant rail of H will kill you, but a rail of coke or two is perfect

this thread is cancer.

forget heroin man, lyrica & subutex will give you a great fucking high if you're wanting something similar

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>>69740975
>Heroin is an ACTUAL *DRUG*. Like cocain, meth, and PCP. It is not comparable to anything like weed or opiates.
what the fuck did I just read

>>69741060
same with xanz and percs. mixing the two together is similar to an H high

I really love GY!BE when I'm doing opiates. It's beautiful to lay down and relax too. My personal favorite while nodding is F#A#

came on /mu/ for jazz recs & now i'm craving bad

>tfw the internet became sentient & is now working against you

>>69741060

isn't subutex a detox med specifically designed to not get you high?

>>69738282
swans

this obviously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFLw26BjDZs

>>69740847
Oh look, someone who actually recommended something instead of just saying to read a book.

Though you seem to think I'm suffering from some kind of existential crisis when I've come to terms with life and accept it for what it is.

>this fucking thread
>teenagers trying to justify heroin use because they read the first paragraph of a wiki article on hedonism / nihilism

mods please delet this thread

>>69741100
it doesn't doesn't get you high, it's supposed to be useful for tapering use
like slowly coming down off a hard heroin habit
in other words it's a milder high but still definitely a high

>>69741100

if you're an addict all it does is keep you at a level but if you have a low or no tolerance it can be enjoyed recreationally. i was using it every day for a month & did experience w/d symptoms. had to shit out a turd almost the size of my fucking arm. passed out from the pain of pushing it out too, came to on the floor with my pants down.

https://youtu.be/b5JSJw_RHvk

>>69741129
Some aren't blind and can see the world and think without having to have words thrown in their eyes.

Stop projecting.

>>69741095

be strong anon

>>69741201
>I am a teenager who read the first paragraph of a wiki article on hedonism / nihilism and now I have truly had the veil removed from my eyes, at last I truly see, far beyond the likes of you sheeple

>>69741223
Or I just sat sat around and thought about shit. I know it's hard to think for yourself when there's a lot of media telling you what to do. You don't have to be a slave you can think for yourself.

>>69741201
>I see the world for what it REALLY IS
>*injects heroin because life is meaningless because you die*

>>69741259

the only thing that makes me sad about your posts is that the nature of 4chan means you will never stumble across them again in a few years and cringe at yourself the way all the people over the age of 21 are doing so at this moment

>>69741223

what is with this teenager meme, face it, 4chan is a load of washed up twenty somethings who's incessant complaints on an anonymous anime message board for years later turned to isolation & mental illness when adulthood hit them. and yes, i am projecting.

>>69741259

dude bill hicks lmao

>>69741259
>thought about "shit"
>muh media brainwashing
>don't be a slave
>think for yourself

Accusing others of media brainwashing, and simultaneously being brainwashed in the "drugs are cool, maaan!" thing

Being a slave a to a drug

Not thinking for yourself enough to maybe not follow many people who've walked down that road


lmao

>>69741315
maybe but that's not much better than regular teenagers. they're still mentally teenagers. and it's no more okay

>>69738658
This is what creates perpetual criminals constantly in and out of jail and fascist regimes

>>69741309
B-but even Nietzsche says to live life to the fullest.

If heroin is what helps me enjoy life then it's obviously what I should do.

>>69741314
I don't think I'm going to cringe unless life has some big magical change.

It will always be inherently worthless.

>>69741353
I don't think drugs are cool.

I was a douchebag straight edge person for years even.

Fact is I realized I was missing out on experiences. One time heroin use isn't anything. I don't care if people like me for doing it, it's simply experiences I want to try at least once.

I mean shit, I smoked weed and didn't give a shit about the high it gave. Haven't smoked it since. I got shitfaced once, didn't like it as much as staying buzzed. Haven't done it since.

Why yes, I'd like to try LSD, shrooms, whatever (except for meth or krokodil shit).

My wife just lost her cousin to a heroin overdose in October. He was 26. Don't do it.

>>69741432

nice blogpost

>>69741434

sorry to hear that but ease up on the guilt trip

>>69741386
you are speaking in incredibly vague rhetoric and using un-arguable terminology
anyway, just so you open up your mind (which you probably think is already opened):

> punishing people rather than encouraging them to avoid mistakes that fuck up their lives?
these can be considered the same thing

>>69741432
You didn't understand Nietzsche, you are the last man if you think living life to the fullest means just doing drugs

>>69741462
nice shitpost

Most of this thread is "former addicts" blogging and trying to convince people to not do a drug lmao.

>>69741432
>If heroin is what helps me enjoy life then it's obviously what I should do.

You should seek actual help my dude. There are things in life to be enjoyed that aren't chemical substances.

>>69741491
No, but to say it isn't part of living life to the fullest would be wrong imo.

Shouldn't you seek all the pleasures of life while you have the chance?

>>69741502
Dude, I enjoy life without. Maybe my talking of it's all the same in the end makes it appear otherwise.

I don't want to try heroin as a coping with life kinda thing. I want to try it because it's an experience.

I'll even admit it's stupid. I looked into it and I think I'll be fine.

>>69738282
Listen man. If you want to do it just do it. Stop arguing with people on the internet about it. Try it if you want, or don't. If you have strong willpower and don't get hooked to things as you say, consider it a bucket list item. I'd recommend snorting it on your first try, needle is kind of nerve wracking if you've never done it before. Unless you have 0 problems with needles. When it kicks in lay down and listen to whatever your favorite genre is. Mezzanine by Massive Attack or some GY!BE were always incredibly enjoyable when I was using years ago

>>69741502

oh but my man don't u realize he's missing out on "experiences"? like all his famous rock star idols.

they did drugs and look what happened. they became rich and famous! with great stories to tell.

>>69741543
Then I wish you luck I guess if you really want to take the risk. I can't criticize too hard because I Have actually snorted heroin twice and never went back. I just acknowledge that it was fucking stupid and the experience isn't the magical thing people seem to think it is.

>>69741563
And died at 27

what kind of life do you have to have to think that heroin is a good idea lmfao

>>69738573
>the average person doesn't want other people to suffer needlessly?
>"do your family and friends a favor and just fucking kill yourself you piece of shit"
>doesn't want other people to suffer needlessly

>>69741600
>and the experience isn't the magical thing people seem to think it is.

It can't be as much of a letdown as weed was.

Thanks for the luck I guess.

>>69741563
not him but stop being such a condescending asshole. people take drugs for a vast array of reasons and manage their use in just as many ways.

I assume he's a 20s something adult but again you have no insight into his or anybody else's circumstances. could be a doctor, lawyer, politician, anything in his 40s. substance ab/use is far more widespread than you think. and I haven't seen a shred of evidence to support your provocative claim that posters here are edgy teenagers trying to justify their life choices or "impress" anybody, all I see is anecdotal sharing with no advocation and at the very least gives an opportunity for the people ITT to speak their mind

now please leave, you bring nothing beneficial to this thread and clearly lack some maturity as to knowing how the real world works.

succ

>>69741705
Yeah, threads like this shed a lot of light on the types of people that post on this board, and suddenly it all makes a lot of sense.

>>69741719
I actually grew to enjoy weed more over time. If you've only tried it a few times and want to move on to something else I would at least say smoke more weed first. Or what it / vape / whatever you have to do to feel it.

I enjoyed weed more than heroin. I wish I could still smoke but I get drug tested for my job.

>>69738282
it's maybe because of the propaganda but i don't see how you can take heroin i've done drugs like lsd mdma and some rc's but potentially physically addictive drug seems a real bad idea

>>69741794
>what it

*eat it

>>69739418
agreed but then he should just kill himself instead of inflict more will upon himself

>>69741779
I think heroin is fucking stupid but I know that somebody who literally has already bought heroin won't listen to a bunch of faggots on an image board

>>69738282
You should listen to your parents

>>69741750
I'm 23 my man. So yeah.

Seriously I don't want to do it for more than experimenting. It's not even #1 on my list of drugs to try.

Also I'm not OP if people thought that.

>>69741794
I guess, that's what I've been told.

Dunno, it just takes forever to do then I just feel sluggish for a while. Like my brain and body have slowed down.

I'd rather just drink.

you guys do realize that lifting weights will solve most of your depression problems.

>>69741922
If you don't like feeling sluggish then heroin is absolutely not for you.

rethink your life and moral compass

>>69741939
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of feeling like it was taking me 30 minutes to reply when people talked to me. Then it took another 30 minutes to get what I was saying out. Sure my friends found it hilarious since I turned it down for years then suddenly took the bowl but eh.

I'm mainly interested in that initial rush I've heard so much about. Like that's it. That fucking fast and intense feeling.

>>69739418
Now this is some pathetic, beta shit.

Kill yourself already and let others seek happiness, slob.

>>69738282
Straight opium is so much better

Johnny Hobo and the freight trains

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>>69740054
>sobriety clouds your judgement

Jesus fuck.

This thread is awful.

Pretty much all drugs punch holes in your fucking brain. You may think you are "Enlightened" but in reality you just forgot how to long term division and your aunt's birthday.

I knew a guy who fell into the whole "enlightenment by drugs" thing, and now he's an emaciated junkie who can't even for a coherent sentence without nodding off or tweaking.

>>69738282
Sure, go ahead and try heroin.

If Heroin its self doesn't kill you then you can be damn sure hepatitis c will.

If hepatitis c doesn't kill you then you can be sure AIDS will.

If AIDS doesn't kill you then you can be sure suicide will.

It's not worth it.

>>69739274
A glass is empty until you put water in it.

>>69742455
sometimes sober people are the craziest

donald trump doesn't drink you know

>>69742773
But he's happier than you.

>>69738324
Reddit has arrived :^)

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>>69738785
>>69739274
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>>69741432

wew lads

>>69743098
No, last time I saw him he was literally threatening suicide and blaming "demons" around him with a blank stare. He was gaunt, disoriented, and had only brought out the worst in himself. The whole experience is extremely eery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBHlq-YJv_0

What's with all the anti-drug redditors in this thread? This place is awful. I don't think anyone needs a PSA on the dangers on Heroin use, you guys can go back to where you came from.

>>69743143
lawl

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>>69741432
Don't ever use Fritz again to back your selfish hedonism.

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>>69743246
some folks are still fighting for this nigga

>>69742773
I don't even drink and I've never known my aunts birthday, who keeps track of that?

>>69738282
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>>69738407
You seem kind of naive, and naive people really shouldn't be fucking around with opiates senpai

>>69738282
Nirvana

What even compels someone to start heroin?

You have to know what you're inviting into your life.

>>69738282
why don't you try psychedelics instead of this boring drug?

>>69743500
I'd assume if you're considering trying heroin, you're already doing tons of different drugs and just want to try the best one. I don't think people wake up one day having never done any drugs and decide to stick a needle in their arm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4tWJa-f0S0

>>69738658
Don't cut yourself on that edge autismo

>>69743475
Not sure why it took over 300 posts for this to be posted

>>69743835
Because Alice in Chains did the dark depressing Heroin music much better.

heroin is gay and ruins life
just drop acid or something

>>69741928
I've been lifting and running and biking for 4 years, getting about 12 hours of exercise per week. Still attempted suicide multiple times. Fuck you

>>69739418
Then kill yourself if you really believe that.

>>69738407
>retard starts doing heroin
Big surprise, way to show them.

>>69739433
Lol, pot isn't going to help you, dude.

In Utero, while fellating the barrel of a gun.

>>69738495
>you never thought highly of your relatives
No the problem was that they got too high. Did you even read his post?

are there any negative repercussions to acid use

>>69738282
lol od fag

>>69739418
I think you should just loop the velvet underground for a few hours and rethink your decicion before you make your life even more shit with drugs.