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>>69721886
>cool covers bad music edition

post savage thrash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it9nuS6HOmA

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Daily Caladan Brood post

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START THE HOLOCAUST
THE REICH WILL RISE

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Anyone else going to see this?

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>>69721912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeGQ5RJw2Cg

>>69721968
Milwaukee date

pumped

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>>69721905
vocals are terrible but the riffs be king

>>69721955
why does this keep getting dubs every time it's posted?

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>>69721886

>>69721912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvQtAcUuiEQ

>>69721968
>Mayhem
>Inquisition
>one of the dates is in my city

How could I not?

>>69721968
who are these three?

>>69721992
I'm probably going to throw my neck out at this show.

First for djent

>>69722048
It's De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, Inquisition Blackanvil, and headlining is The True playing Mayhem in its entirety.

>>69721886
Why is there two threads up on the first page? What are you people doing?

>>69722079
the three guys, I mean
is that freakin euronymous on the left

>>69722096
no it's varg

>>69722095
Other thread was a shit edition made by a newfag so we moved here, retards are still bumping the other thread.

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Riffs.

>>69722096
dont be ridiculous euronymous is dead

>>69722096
Have you ever seen the De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas booklet? It's exactly the same except they added Attila to the right

What should I know before I'll take a journery into ManowaR?

>>69722132
How to leave the hall.

>>69722131
There's only one problem: Glam metal is musically shit and the looks, however much they might defend your idea of macho or whatever, are appalling.

>>69722131
I'm ok with this

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>>69722132
If you're a false or a poseur, don't even bother listening to Manowar. Many poseurs and false have made the mistake of thinking they could simply just sit down and casually listen to Manowar, thinking they'll be fine, only to be crushed and disintegrate under the heaviness.

>>69722156
The looks are great.

As for the music, it's a genre that's focused on singles rather than on albums.

So, expectedly, the albums are usually underwhelming because they're mostly filler, but the singles are consistently great.

Then there's bands like WASP who manage to make albums that are excellent from front to back.

Glam just needs a little bit more elitism.

>>69722156
Agreed. I myself listen to Deafheaven exclusively and I think glam metal is atrocious. Unsophosticated metal for plebeians still caught up in their delusional riff mindset.

>>69722177
true.

>>69722132
Nobody tells a man how to play.
It just ain't that way.

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>>69722177
I'm dying

>>69721905

Fuck off. How is it a bad album?

>>69722223
>off by one

>>69722177
FAST TAKER
BED BREAKER
LOVE MAKER
TAKE IT AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY YEEAAAHH

>>69721905
this album sounds like braveheart

>>69721905
lol fuck off

>>69721955
SIEHST DU DEN BENTLEY DA VOR DEM BENZ
WIE DIE BANDLEADER VOR DEN BANDS

>>69721968
Jep. Going to the Dallas date. Pretty hyped

>>69722177
true metal lifer here, manowar is shit and a pure meme. no one legitimately enjoys them.

Did you know that the CNK supports glam?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF0t9EiApIk

>>69721968
I'm going to see them in April.

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>>69722223
coming into human flesh

>>69722246
>>69722222

>>69722329
WHIMPS AND POSERS; LEAVE THE HALL!

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>>69722329
Poseur detected

>>69722223
Do people just trawl WikiHow pages looking for funny ones to turn into memes?

>>69722235
>>69722307
atmoshitters pls go back to cvltnation or whatever

>>69722202
>>69722193
>>69722177
""""ok""""

>>69722329
HOLD IT!

RIGHT THERE!

Well it's more to me, than just a job
And while I'm playing you won't get robbed.

>>69722329
DO NOT ENTRY

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>>69722333

Manowar can be pretty glam when they want to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDz_YZ23FRo

INCJET IT INTO THE BLOOD

>>69722400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLDJddmTFe0

TOO FAST
TOO FAST FOR LOVE

>>69722347
I DROWN IN ASHES YOU'VE ENSHRINED

Since black metal is clearly outdated, what is now considered kvlt ?

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>>69722403
and they can be the best band of the 80s when they try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOhsIvJGo7A

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>>69722423
FRENCH
INDUSTRIAL
GLAMDEATH

>>69722444
Black metal

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>>69722444

>>69722446
They're the best 80s band when they're glam too.

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so when does motorhead turn to shit? or should i just go ahead and download all of their albums?

>>69722493
They never turn to shit, but they have some weaker records.

>>69722446
>of the 80s
>posts a track from their 2002 album
Wew lad, step it up and post something from the 80s.

Literally the best traditional/power metal song of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfBrmhAxDjY

>>69722493
Never.

This is from their final album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6guTHG_u7QI

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>>69722493
Motörhead has always been proto-groove and forever remained proto-groove even when groove metal's popularity faded away.

>>69722510
That is accurate.

>THOR, THE MIGHTY, THOR, THE BRAVE
>CRUSH THE INFIDELS IN YOUR WAY
wait a second
"infidels"?

Are we talking about Thor or about some judeo-arabic sandpeople god?

>>69722510
I'M A KINSMAN OF THE SLAIN
SWORN TO RISE AGAIN

>>69722510
>Literally the best traditional/power metal song of all time

but that's not riot's thundersteel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZUysqemMmg

>>69722575
Infidel isn't just a goatfucker word, you dip

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Been playing this all damned day.

>>69722612
lol

>>69722458
hot

>>69722595
thundersteel is the best speedpower song
not the best tradpower song

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POST RIFFS
I
F
F
S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEX0sbrm8yw

>>69722645
power metal by default is a branch of speed metal you dip, you can't be power metal and speed metal at the same time

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>>69722493
>tfw Lemmy never put out a bad album
>even when he was dying of cancer he put out good shit

RIP Lemmy you lived longer than you should have but not long enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4qHmryJYs0&spfreload=10

>>69722612
is that a new recording of DMDS or something?

>>69722696
Live version.

>>69722675
You proved yourself wrong by mentioning Thundersteel.

Power Metal and Speed metal are both separate offshoots of Judas Priest, and they sometimes cross over again.

>>69722493
They never turned to shit, but everything after the album you posted is too samey and you won't miss any life altering experiences if you stop listneing there.

>>69722708
>Overrated Priest
>making not even one but two subgenres
topkek

>>69722711
everything before orgasmatron is pretty samey too so i think i'll take my chances

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Is Eurobeat technically Speed Disco or is it Power Disco?

>>69722762
Both?

>>69722744
But it was uniquely samey at the time. Besides there's a clear jump at 1980.

To be honest you could just stick with Live 'Til Hammsersmith and be done with Motörhead's discography.

whats the best thrash yurop scene?

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>>69722708
False, power metal branched off of speed metal in the early 80s, largely thanks to Riot transitioning from a speed metal band and into a power metal band, and bands like Manowar and Jag Panzer taking a much more louder, and speed driven approach to traditional metal while being more melodic than most speed metal. Power metal was a counterculture to thrash metal, which too branched off of speed metal, but unlike power metal, thrash brought much more extreme influences into the genre, from the early hardcore punk scene and whatnot, which a lot of the initial power metalfags didn't want so they tried to incorporate extremity into metal without the punk influence, which is why you see bands like Agent Steel and Manowar get into borderline harsh vocals plenty of times.

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>>69722801
Are you being serious

sup /metal/ rec me some comfy winter metal albuns.

>>69722801
sodom

>>69722801
Serbian. Nadimac is kickass.

Post metal songs where the riffs give you feels.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z7u5Dux7ROM

>>69722819
Unless you understand Speed Metal to have two epochs (first one being basically Motörhead and the second one being characterised by bands like Exciter) then you're rambling mad.

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>>69722794
correct
you win a race queen Lum

>>69722826
coldworld - melancholie^2
paysage d'hiver - kristal & isa

>>69722826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeOlPQqJR-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6GWdwkXqhw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O_XCRhhvw4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaEfldcoEnw

>>69722822
>>69722828
i meant to ask the best scene today

>>69722862
don't want your crummy cartoons

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>>69722865

>>69722819
>they tried to incorporate extremity into metal **without the punk influence**, which is why you see bands like Agent Steel and Manowar get into borderline harsh vocals plenty of times.
Huh, this must be why I like power better than thrash.

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>>69722883
these then

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>>69722874
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS THRASH METAL SCENE TODAY

post megadeth worship

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>>69722856
There's two styles of speed metal, both of which originated in the mid-late 70s.

This is the style of speed metal that went on to influence power metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbQm-nSjuHI

This is the style of speed metal that went onto influence thrash metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VNUyjRRjxM

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>>69722826

Pic related, or any other of the Paysage d'Hiver catalogue

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Attila is such a great vocalist

>>69722897
No thanks.

>>69722921
leave

>>69722940
make me, nu-male

>>69721968
Me and my friend are aiming to do the Poughkeepsie show I think

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What is a slam vocalist's favourite cheese?

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>>69722921
>teeth

>>69722849
https://youtu.be/iBbTYaM52YY?t=2m48s

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>>69722921
such a great fashion designer

>>69722957
>me
>nu-male
enough

>>69722978
probably Roquefort

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>>69722978
Smegma
>>69722910
Oh, you're being serious, my lord.

>>69722801
Nocturnal from germany is great
A little blacky though if that even matters

>>69722978
power metal

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post meme albums

>>69722978
BRIEEEEEE!!!!

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>>69723113

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>>69723113

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>>69723113

>>69722885
>Lugburz
>Welcome My Last Chapter
>Vinterskugge
>anything by Moonblood
>"""""cold""""""
that chart is a meme based on cover art and names alone.

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>>69723113

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>>69723113

so guys, it´s been a long while since i´ve been on a metal live gig and i´d have chance to see Sabaton, Kiss, Destruction or Swans live.
what to go for?

>>69723229
>not liking Summoning

>>69723229
What are you meming about? Winter Falls Over The Land is an essential /winter/core right here

>>69723247
Destruction

>>69723247
Swans

>>69723200
>>69723141

Not even sure why I bother coming here:

Anything good is a meme.
Anything shit is hailed as kvlt

>>69723247
Swans my man

>>69723410
vektor is legitimately bad

>>69723247

Definitely not Swans,especially if playing their new stuff

>>69723351
t. Michael Gira

>>69723443
pleb

>>69722131

I love heroin and STDs

>>69723439

What are some good bands then?

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>>69723087
Of course I am serious, because I'm right.
Power metal branched off of speed metal in the early 80s as a counter-reaction to the emerging thrash metal scene that was emerging from the grittier side of speed metal at the same time. It's basic common knowledge. To understand power metal's origins you need to understand that late 70s speed metal was divided between bands that used sloppier, lower production, and mingled with the emerging punk scene, like Motorhead, and bands that were cleaner, higher production, and stayed much more within the constraints of the metal scene like Riot. Both groups of speed metal still essentially wanted to play faster traditional metal, but had very different approaches to it. In the early 80s, around the time thrash metal was starting to become a thing in the demo-trading sceneswith bands like Exodus and Hellhammer, you started to see the first power metal bands form such as Jag Panzer and Agent Steel, and even Riot strayed from speed metal and into power metal during the mid-80s, as a counter-reaction.

>>69723449

I'm talking from experience. He played a 40 minute intro of clashing drums and downward guitar strokes. It was boring as hell.

His new stuff is shit live and not exciting at all.

>>69723483
all of them
except Vektor

>>69723507
I saw them last month, it wasn't that bad

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>>69723483
cauldron

>>69723483
djent

>>69723511

Stop memeing

>>69723522

I agree actually. Doesn't make Vector shit though

>>69723550

Die

>went to see Xasthur last night
>was expecting DSBM
>he was playing acoustic shit as a three piece instead

WTF did i just witness

>>69723483
Cheerleader Concubine

>>69723752
was it good?

When did Kreator turns into a meloshit band?

>>69722921
his voice is fucking deep, can't deny it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yw4yfeOhv4

>>69723248
Who the fuck said that? Lugburz is simply not a cold album.
>>69723486
>because I'm right.
""""""""""""""""""""""ok""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>69723522
Saw them live this year
Excellent drummer and guitar amp was dialed in right or is modded with a really good mod because that shit was cutting through and it sounded real nice

>>69723752
>>69723785

Xasthur has been acoustic for a while now

>>69723800
after Coma Of Souls
>>69723486
You're contradicting yourself

>>69723813
Go be dumb elsewhere lad.

>>69723752
did he cry ?

>>69723854
Can't stand competition, eh?

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Now that the dust has settled can we agree that this is the best Psychidelic Black Metal release of 2016?

>>69723752
>"I've returned to the name again since early 2015, it’ll stay that way, but the ‘black metal’ Xasthur is definitely over."
Can this man ape Burzum any harder?

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>>69723852
>You're contradicting yourself
Since when have I? My entire point is that power metal is a branch off of speed metal where yours is that it isn't, which is one of the most retarded statements I've read in /metal/ in the last year that wasn't just shitposting.

>>69723483
Zarach Baal Tharagh

What are some essential christian metal music videos?
Link very related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsi9HEmZl9Y

>>69723913
It's not like it has a lot of competition in that very specific department. Also yes.
>>69723939
That wasn't my point (hint: I didn't have one, I was just pointing out inconsistencies).

>>69723765
You say you don't listen to metal. What are your home boards CxCx?

>>69723483
Artery Eruption

>>69723958
There's not really any inconsistencies, unless you can point them out.

>>69723483
Gruesome Toilet

>>69724013
I guess I can't, since we seem to have different views of the development of speed metal and the origins of power metal (in fact, we probably have a different idea of what power metal is). It's like trying to point out inconsistencies within someone's philosophical system when in reality it's the whole system that's wrong.

>>69724097

Shut up faggot no one cares

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>tfw no atmoshit qt gf

>>69722117
I love you

>>69724128
>"/metal/: The Post"

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>>69724134
>gf

>>69724134
who is that?

>>69723965
/d/ is my home board

>>69724240
I like you.

who else /vanhalen/ here

>>69724229
Clearly some random aspiring model who got paid enough money to buy lunch at McDonald's to pose with a ridiculously lazily designed shirt for a worn out band that lost its shine long ago, much like her in a few years when she realises she could have used that time to study a proper career, or those looks to suck the right cocks to climb the social ladder towards a comfortable, if empty, existence.

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>>69724311
t. grandpa

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>the band has short hair

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Obscure, legit scary raw bm pls.

>>69724404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFHHSspoPgo

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>>69724437
>Tulus
>Raw
>Scary
I don't quite follow

>>69724311
What are some good songs by them?
I feel like they're like Deep Purple where you gotta pick and choose a little or at least I do

>>69724471
Panama

>>69724404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEpiuQzAvjI
>>69724437
>>69724468
Also
>Tulus
>Obscure
ya awr8 m80

>>69723486
kek, nice historical revisionism. Agent Steel spawned from the Bay Area too and were not thought of any differently from most early thrash bands of the time and period. Helloween explicitly took after Exodus and Metallica, even though they'd gradually increase the melodic elements and turn power metal into its own thing. Jag Panzer existed before and independently of thrash and had nothing to do with that period.

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>>69724404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hcBMAFkwSA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FBfss2GCPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmiszo6dOu4

>>69724494
>Helloween explicitly took after Exodus and Metallica
I'd say they took more from Judas Priest and the teutonic thrash scene

>>69724521
Sure, definitely agreed on Priest (I mean it basically goes Priest/Scorpions --> Accept --> German speed/power), just pointing out that those bands took explicit influence from the Bay Area too. The Teutonic scene was wholly influenced by the Bay Area and wouldn't have been the same without it.

>>69724494
And yet Agent Steel sounded absolutely nothing like the thrash metal bands they were around. Skeptic's Paradise is a power metal album.

>Jag Panzer existed before and independently of thrash and had nothing to do with that period.
And began writing and releasing music after the first thrash demos were released.

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Will pic related ever leave that shit brand Dean? I can't listen to their live performances anymore and it's not even because of his dying voice, but even the guitars suck now, it's like I'm not listening to metal, but plastic. Fuck Dean.

>>69724550
Skeptic's apocalypse*

fuck me in the ass baka

>>69724550
>palm-muted chugging of 16th notes
>sounds nothing like thrash metal

Also
>Skeptic's Paradise
kek, way to show you don't even listen to them

Jag Panzer has stuff going back to 1981, before any thrash records existed (unless Venom counts).

>>69724557
Dean are as good as Jacksons or any other brand
what you're on about?

>>69724557
Dave Must(ardst)aine was never good

>>69724557
>Blaming his instrument

That's not the guitars fault, Mustaine is just a talentless hack.

why do must nu thrash bands sound the same?

You "riffs" people are worse than the scene kids who are always waiting for the breakdown

>>69724604
Same production, same vocals, same riffs

>>69724589
He is over-glorified too much, but regardless of his playing abilities, you have to notice a certain decline in quality from the way his guitar sounds as well. It just sounds horrible. Either he doesn't know how to customize his own guitar, or Dean is not right for his style of playing.

>>69724493
>collaborated with Merzbow
>Obscure
eet sheet m8t0

>>69724633
Merzbow collaborates with anything that is capable of making a sound, you spunkeating gobshite; keep an eye out for his next three-way split with a broken washing machine and an elderly lady dying of tuberculosis

>>69724349

trying too hard/10

>>69724684
>an elderly lady dying of tuberculosis
*Dead

>>/pol/103319689/

>>69724701
He's right. There's been shit /mu/tant bandcamp projects that have had collaborations with memebow, I'm not trolling in the slightest.

>>69724693
>too hard
Nah, it comes naturally. Didn't even proofread it.
>>69724701
I'm not clicking that link.

>>69724684
>elderly lady dying of tuberculosis
that's not death grips you dipshit

>>69724573
see >>69724567. I mix up skeptic's apocalypse and septic paradise often since they're both incredible albums that came out in a similar timespan.

>Jag Panzer has stuff going back to 1981
Objectively false. Jag Panzer only formed in 1981, they didn't write any music until 1983.

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>>69724719
Here's the OP from the thread

>>69724725
Way to not mention that I am completely right about the riffing style of Skeptic's Apocalypse being largely similar and derived from the Bay Area

Again, nice historical revisionism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_6v-hEhRnA

>>69724732
oh no...

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>>69724751
metallica invented every riff ever

>>69724778
Hetfield is definitely in the top 3-5 of most important riffcrafters. I'd put Hammett at least in the top 20 as well, underrated contributions, such as the Impaler/Trapped Under Ice riff which has been copied in everything from Helloween's Ride the Sky to Possessed's Death Metal

>>69724716
sauce ?

>>69721955
Wtf I love Sabaton now

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anyone got something similar?

the more skull crushing compression the better

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>>69723913
in my top 3 dude weed lmao albums, alongside with pic related and Idolum from Ufommamut

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>>69724894
ere u go bb

>>69724960

Gorgoroth and Anaal are my fucking favorites, already gone thru them

>>69724982
It figures

whats some more stoner like Dopethrone or Weedeter? I love the black metal style vocals over the sludgy stoner riffs.

Can anyone explain to me the appeal of Anaal Nathrakh post-2007? Every single album sounds the *fucking same*, and they sound like a cheap Eschaton knockoff played 10% faster.

>>69725006

Domovoyd

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>>69724437
>>69724493
>>69724500
Thanks laddos

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>>69724778
wew lad

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>>69725006

why did metal have to be my favorite genre of all genres?

>>69725006
Domovoyd

metal for those who like sweeties

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>>69725006
Jumalhämärä can be pretty sludgy and psychedelic at times

>>69725091
Clearly Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and Helloween

>>69725064
I lub boris

>>69725024
>>69725076
>>69725118
I havent heard of these bands before. thanks mates

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>>69725006
Noisier, dronier and almost industrial, but it's pretty raw and bluesy

>>69724716
Liar.

>>69725091
Secrecy is the only answer, a melodic technical thrash album with an effeminate vocalist, with lyrics solely about social anxiety and platonic love

>I want you to tell your tale
>But hesitation gleams in your eyes
>What is it what makes you afraid?
>With your feelings I don't wanna dice

>Please tell me just the truth
>Stop to pretend
>And I'll comprehend
>Never try to abuse
>The words you say
>I am your friend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tAy6DzMrEw

>>69725355
liking sweeties doesn't automatically make you gay, you know

>>69725091

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs5NTHYNzEA

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hey guys, do you know any other bands that sound like these guys, I really enjoyed this album especially Material World Paranoia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5vIPpy4A8

thanks

>>69725447
>doesn't match his voice to the first note of the solo
what a fag

>>69724894
Attila

>>69725377
Who said anything about homosexuality? Secrecy is pure, asexual love between adolescents.

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>>69725490
It's called third wave thrash

is black metal the worst subgenre of metal?

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>>69725540
yes

>>69725536
No, second wave.

Also
>>69725490
Check out Artillery's By Inheritance

>>69725540
short answer: Yes

long answer: its only for hipsters so yeah.

>>69725518
A.K.A. gay shit for fags

>>69725540

t. slammie (a.k.a. wigger-core)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBqLFEuJ5DE
recommend me good straight edge metal

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find me a better oriental BM band

protip: it would be pretty cool if you could

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>>69725550
>>69725562
This

>>69725540
yeah

>>69725559
First wave: 82-85
Second wave: 86-89
Third wave: 90-93

what music was similar in spirit to black metal and death metal before they came around? dumb question i know, but i've just come to associate music darkest in themes and most aggressive sounding with metal.

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>>69725635
>dumb question
That's an understatement

>>69725540
no

glam metal is the worst

>>69725536
>>69725559

I heard these two already, artillery is amazing but I dislike two "slow" songs that they have, still one of the best albums I ever heard. Sepultura is pretty good too, I like a lot the Beneath the Remains album as well. I wanted something more like demolition hammer or dark angel's album time does not heal

who /djent/ here?

>>69725610
It doesn't work quite that simply

First wave/founder age: The founders and pioneers, largely from 82-86 but not necessarily, plus some later albums that still came from the pioneers
Second wave/golden age: 87-93, the bands that came directly from the founders, either copies or pioneers of sub/micro-genres
Third wave/dark age: 94-00, bands that formed after thrash had officially "died"
Fourth wave/retro age: 01-present

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>tfw Slayer will never play The Final Command live ever again
/meal/ for this feel?

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>>69725712
Try Sodom's output from the same era, I guess

>>69725712
How about

Archaic Torse - Sneak Attack
Invocator - Excursion Demise
Protector - A Shedding of Skin
Sacrifice - Soldiers of Misfortune

>>69725732
You're overlapping too many bands that don't sound much alike. My division is much clearer. That and thrash after 93 only matters if it's technical/avantgarde/post (Coroner, early Meshuggah, Obliveon) or some form of crossover (Aura Noir, early Skyclad, Desultory, etc). And don't get me started on revivals.

>>69725712
You should also try canadian band Sacrifice 1991-1993

>>69725833
>>69725771
>>69725741
Thanks guys, I will listen to them

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>>69725833
>implying that all thrash from 1986 and 1989 sounds the same
Eras and styles are never cut and dry.

There's good retro thrash, don't be a stubborn bastid

>>69725091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H9xi79phzM

>>69725876
Usually I would agree with you, but in the case of thrash it just seems to be that clear cut. I've listened to as much of the style as anyone else and I can't see evidence against my particular division.

Of course there's good retro thrash. It's an imitation of good old school thrash, it's bound to sound good. Doesn't mean it's worthwhile. Why would I bother listening to a band that sounds like Kreator's best works when I can listen to Kreator's best works?

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glam will dominate the world

>>69725666
Basically i'm asking if you liked music "evil" and "demonic" sounding before those types of metal came around, what would you have listened to? I'm guessing some spooky sounding folk music, but idk. who were the people with the ears of a metalhead? metal can't be the first to have gone this route, though it's gone the furthest down it.

>>69725957
Either noisy garage rock or ominous and loud as fuck modernist/post-romanticist composers

>>69725912
pretty heavy for the sweet

>>69725932
Master of Puppets sounds the same as Spectrum of Death? Breaking the Silence sounds the same as Dimension Hatross? Think This sounds the same as Main Frame Collapse? By 1988 or so, there were too many different styles of thrash to easily compare them. I'd say 1985 is the last year you can get away with that. I think Puppets dropping in 1986 is when everyone tried coming up with different ideas/gimmicks and songwriting approached.

>>69725946
>>69726016
didn't the Sweet have the coolest evolution in glam, basically being the original glam metal act
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM0IWyQ5zcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAGXY79Yg24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc5AGNuWdsE

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Damn this is a slow burn of an album. Was super disappointed by it at first and thought it was hopelessly mediocre. Took me a whole 7 months to come around but now I think it's great.

>>69725983
thanks! i'll look into them. curious to hear what they're like for myself.

>>69724557
It's not the guitars. They play too loud for their own good.

>>69725957
>who were the people with the ears of a metalhead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCEDfZgDPS8

CRY

FOR THE MAAN

IN THE MIRRRORR

SEE HIS EMPTY EYES WHERE NOTHING LIES BEYOND

>>69726212
stratowewrius

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what is the he-man christmas special of metal?

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>>69725006

pic related - best doom out there

>>69721992
>living in niggerland
i feel you

>>69726211
i see what you mean. it has that impending doom sound. thanks for the rec.

>>69726039
You're taking a very simple thing I said and drawing on the most opposite extremes to make a mockery of my argument. But whatever, if you like I'll go into further detail and even change the dates a bit, see if you can see where I'm coming from:

1982-84 was, though no one would word it that way back then, the birth of thrash. When it was a melting pot of early extreme metal from where more refined forms would emerge. Everything from Sodom's Witching Metal, to Hellhammer/Celtic Frost and Bathory, and of course the debuts of Slayer and Metallica. A faster, rawer, more evil take on NWOBHM. Hell, if you listen to Venom's Black Metal (the song) and Heaven's On Fire, you'll find 90% of what made thrash metal thrash metal. First wave.

1985-87 is when the style became self aware. It developed a persona, and separated itself from other burgeoning styles like speed metal and power metal. Death metal was in an embryonic stage, but it was there nevertheless (I'm in a bit of an unorthodox stance because I consider Sepultura's Bestial Devastation to be the first death metal release). Some bands gave emphasis to different elements of the genre, so that you get rather disparate albums (you gave some good examples), but they belong to the same current and clearly respond to the tendencies of the era. You can hardly mistake an album from 1986, 7 or 8 from one from 1984 or 1989. Second wave.

1989(yes, I guess it overlaps here)-1993: Death metal and black metal were now a reality, and, along with grindcore, they signaled somewhat of a zenith of the more extreme aspects of metal. Thrash was lagging behind. Its children had become more powerful than itself. So, as a last ditch measure, it focused more than ever on speed, clean production and technicality, bringing forth albums like Coma of Souls and Arise: Thrash that verges on the brutality of Death and the fury of second wave Black, without ever getting to match either styles' speed or extreme-ness. Third wave.

>>69726519
After that debacle, thrash had no choice but to change radically, hence the golden age of technical and post-thrash (both, perhaps, championed by Coroner), or meld with other styles, which resulted in the black thrash attack of bands like Aura Noir or the deathened thrash (thrashened death?) of bands like Desultory. Then came revivals, as they're wont to, but I've never enjoyed them for the reasons stated earlier.

Goddamn why did I even type all of this? Bye, I'm gonna take a shower now.

>>69726519
>1985-87
goddamn I meant -88*

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpt9KLRmqQk

Is this the best album that came out this year???

>>69726519
I agree with the first two parts to an extent actually, not the third at all though. Putting aside "muh logical conclusion of metal", it had nothing to do with a competition with those other styles, especially not black metal. Further, Coma of Souls and Arise, "more than ever on speed, clean production and technicality"? Those are just bands trying to be Master of Puppets, more melodic and accessible. At the same time, you had Coroner, Believer, Confessor, etc doing all sorts boundary-pushing shit. There's no simple era that can describe thrash on a whole after 1986.

>>69726768
possibly

Spanish nu thrash?
https://youtu.be/zBq6UV9-xCk

>>69722117

underrated album desu.

>>69722347

"AND PIERCE ME ARSE!"

>>69722446

>heterosexual

anon, I...

>>69723410

Filosofem is legitimately a meme album. The first three tracks are good, I like the guitar tone and the vocals, but the rest (remember the last 3 tracks are about twice as long total as the first three) are an absolute waste. Enjoy your 25 minute boring as fuck ambient track and your copy-pasted bookend tracks.

>>69725718

You have to be 18 to browse this website

>>69723410
Who said memes can't be good...

Think about it

>>69727038
>I don't enjoy it; therefore, it's a meme
The album, monolithic ambient track included, changed with a resounding slap the face of black metal, and everything that came after it can be divided into three fields: "wants to be Transilvanian Hunger"; "wants to experiment" and "wants to be Filosofem".

It's a nigh-perfect album that has withstood the test of time and will always be amongst the style's greatest outputs.

I seriously doubt you have any coherent or consistent idea of what "meme album" is supposed to mean. Now stop listening to nigger music and take up your aryan keyboard, we have some dungeon synth to make.

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>>69722223
this one is a new one and already in the books
anyone else got any ebin WikiHow memes

>>69727038
>doesn't like Decrepitude
why even bother listening to black metal, my dude?

>>69727038
>Enjoy your 25 minute boring as fuck ambient track

i do.
So did the whole of the Dungeon Synth genre, seeing as a lot of artists cite Burzum as a key major influence on the genre.

>>69727115
Preacher, what do you think of Blackrain's glam cover of Get a Gun, Shoot at Random?

>>69727167
i listened to it a while ago and legitimately couldn't listen to the whole thing

maybe now it's different

is memphis underground more satanic than black metal

>>69727183
it's a grower

now I can't listen to the original without getting myself a shot of the cover

sometimes I spend 30 minutes alternating between both versions.

>>69727194
nope

>>69727194
no

>>69727194
nein

>>69727272

>>69727194
TRIPLE 6 MOTHAFVCKIN KVLT SHIET
SKI MASK

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>>69727153

>"Boop boop boop... boop... boopboop..." for 25 minutes
>good

>>69727122

I actually don't mind it, but even as a single track I think it goes on about 2 or 3 minutes too long than what it justifies. Simply having it twice is just pure laziness. If you actually have any knowledge about how quickly varg shat out his albums in the studio you'll realize that his work was not flawless musical genius from start to finish and would have greatly benefited from more time and refinement.

>>69727093

I'm not contesting that it was influential and a new idea and approach of what a BM album could be, I'm contesting that it's a high quality album from start to finish. It absolute is not, not even close. It's a generous 5/10 for me in execution (I give it that since Varg FINALLY put down some vocals that weren't embarrassing), 8.5/10 in concept.

>>69727310
> It absolute is not
Granted. Rundtgåing could stand to be 10 min. shorter, while remaining its structure (inb4 "it has no structure"-- it does. It's got a perfectly good developement. The only problem is that the first part repeats itself a few too many times, but even then it's perfectly good)
>not even close.
This is the point I'm trying to address. You're simply wrong. The album is, as I said, near perfect, and its defects are perfctly surmountable granted you don't have such a level of impatience and stubbornness that you could be working at the stock market. And no, I'm not saying you have to "force" yourself to like it. I'm saying that the main characteristics which make the album so effective and amazing are the same ones that do away with the perception of time.
>It's a generous 5/10 for me
Oh thank you so much!!! I'm sure Varg would be honoured!!

>>69727424

I'm just highly sensitive to things going on too long and excessive repetition. Put it this way, if he had cut out 10 minutes from the ambient track like you said, only had one decrepitude track, and had a fourth track like the first three (at the end I think, to send the album off on a high note) I'd probably really like the album.

As it stands, though, it's just far too flawed for me to enjoy all the way through, it's an album that screams "TURN ME OFF" about two thirds through. If not wanting to put up with a full 20 minutes of shit at the end of an album that shouldn't be there makes me impatient, fine, I'm impatient. I know I'd rather spend that 20 minutes of my musical time listening to something else rather than unnecessarily long winded black metal ramblings.

>>69727618
So let me get this straight: You can't handle repetition because there's clearly something wrong with you, so this album is anything less than amazing?

Defectuous AND entitled? WHODATHUNKIT!

>>69727691

I can handle repetition, but I think that (surely) everybody has a threshold. Having the same track twice, and an inherently repetitive track that is 25 minutes is a good example of where I draw the line. So, yes, that makes it much less than amazing, at least for what I want from an album. I don't begrudge anyone loving it.

>defectuous and entitled

lol, fuck off kid. You don't have to sling insults because an anon dislikes your precious album.

>>69727691
Repetition sucks. I hate ostinatos.

>>69727823
>You don't have to sling insults because an anon dislikes your precious album.
Are you new to /mu/ or something? And the inclusion of the second, instrumental, more ambient version of Decrepitude is one of the best things about the album.

Anyway this thread is dead. Fite me in the next one >>69727272

>>69727038
Gebrechlickeit is fucking great.