Blackstar (2016), 4/10

>Bowie died of cancer in january 2016. 4/10

really makes you think

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Scaruffi bodied this already dead nigga

svvvge

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>Divers 6.5/10

>>69708192
>he didn't like anecdotes or a pin-light bent
he has garbage taste desu

How will Bowie ever recover

>>69707200
What a contrarian, I'm truly impressed.
Give that man a 12 year old.

What did Bowie do to Scaruffi to make him so hecking mad? Tell him refrigerators aren't sentient? Liberate his child bride?

>>69707200
>I Can't Give Everything Away boasts an awful distorted guitar against syncopated beats and layers of electronic drones: not exactly genius.

Also
>not exactly true.

> to say that Bowie is a musician is like saying that Nero was a harp player (a fact that is technically true, but misleading)

>It's a new "the fact" copypasta

>reviewing things yr unfamiliar with because you have a bone to polish

he can't keep getting away with this

>>69708273
>>69708275
Is scruffi really a pedo? Whats this about refrigerators?

>>69708339
What does this sentence even mean?

>>69707777
4x4=16
10x2=20
20
16
2016


.

>>69707200
Wow, he's a truly terrible writer.

i wonder what he went in expecting
i wonder if he hoped it would be good

>>69708225
i kek'd

>>69708667
nothing. he just threw it in there to make him seem smart.

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>>69708702
non un argomento

>>69707200
He's not wrong but it's still 6/10

>>69708752
*tips fedora*

but really, where in his review did scaruffi make an argument?

>>69708752
There is no argument. I listened to Blackstar once - I don't even remember what it sounds like. He's just objectively a terrible writer.

>>69708667
it means that you miss the mountain for the molehill if you look at Bowie's status as a musician. he is first and foremost a fashion icon and celebrity, and people synthesize their image of him as "musician," same as Nero was an emperor but his popular perception emphasizes that he played harp as Rome burned.

>>69708708
>implying he even listened to it

>>69708849
Except that's obviously bullshit - Bowie would have been just another eccentrically dressed weirdo wandering around Camden if it wasn't for the fact that he wrote and played music that loads of people love.

>>69708991
arguably, one could also say he'd be just another weirdo doing derivative glam rock and failing to get a record deal if it weren't for his status as a visual provocateur and performance artist

when the FUCK is this man going to review pablo

>>69709021
most of his work including his best aren't even glam tho why assume that's where he'd stagnate

>>69709021
piss off you aint smart and you dont know what your talking about

>>69709066
just because that's what he attached to to launch his career properly. i believe that without his image, he wouldn't have stayed so in touch with/had access to the artists like Eno who helped him to evolve into a more mature musical artist. i think Scaruffi ignores that Nero was a harp player and Bowie is a musician, but i would never go so far as to say i give enough of a shit about the debate either way to not enjoy devil's advocating in front of Bowie's congregation

Because surely Lisa Germano is better.


Fuck off. Quit posting this dumb fag's nonsense.

>>69709066
his best work happened because of eno. bowie was always reddit tier shit

>>69709373

Geek The Girl is a fucking masterpiece, sorry if you can't see that.

>>69709391
Nah it's like a 5/10

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>>69709406

top kek. bowie cucks BTFO

>>69708275
He fucked both of his parents at the same time

>>69709299
i absolutely agree Bowie rose to such spectacular heights due to his collaborators, which include Eno, Ronson, Visconti, Rodgers, Gabrels, Alomar, Lennon, etc. but for Scaruffi to say he wasn't much of a musician is just a quip to keep people reading his work, and for people to buy into it, well, it's just nonsense. i'd suggest people read up on Bowie and not spout juvenile nonsense.then again, this is 4chan....

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>>69707200

>>69709299
but he was already experimenting with his sound across his first 4 albums which spanned folk, psychedelic, hard and progressive rock (see (1967/69-1971): Cygnet Committee, Memory of a Free Festival, Unwashed and Somewhat Slightly Dazed, The Width of a Circle, Saviour Machine, Andy Warhol, The Bewlay Brothers) before his delving into glam rock and its imagery (Ziggy Stardust, 1972, or Queen Bitch's inclusion at the end of Hunky Dory, 1971, at a push), so it's silly to pretend he would have remained "just another weirdo doing derivative glam rock and failing to get a record deal" when his roots were in experimenting with pop/ rock, chiefly folk and psychedlic and glam was a sound he only tapped into upon those foundations

so if he were to have not found success with that image and sound, there's no leap needed to think that he'd keep experimenting rather than stagnating, or if not experiementing then definitely not "doing derivative glam rock", since it would never have served as the catalyst for his success so there would be no studio nor fincancial need

the idea that he wouldn't have had access to artists that would help propel his sound is also untrue, seeing as he'd had involvement with Tony Visconti, Marc Bolan, Rick Wakeman and Mick Ronson from before his breakthrough success with glam and Ziggy Stardust

>>69707200
>Bowie crooning melodramatic in Lazarus

haha. Dude was literally singing about his death, in the process of dying with cancer eating away at his body, and it's not enough for the scaruffi

How does he keep getting away with it?

>>69708203
A pin-light bent is the second best harp-only song she's done behind sawdust

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>>69708275
>>69708629

Scaruffi is the best

What else has he reviewed lately? nothing here http://www.scaruffi.com/cdreview/new.html

>>69708273

>contrarian

A lot of people agree that the album was not significant or impressive. It is clear as daylight that his meme-death propelled the album's status.

>>69710017
>somebody actually made this
topkek

>>69711350
He game AMSP a 6, and there's this
>>69708192

>>69709373

Germano's album literally IS better and everybody should keep posting it instead of Bowie's albums, which are all mediocre to bad.

Thank God he meme-died this year, so that in the future, there will be no new releases for everybody to fawn over and he will fade into the background in the same way as other old stars.

>>69711350

Julia Holter's new album acquired a 6 as well.

>>69711376
lurk more cunt
A whole group of people made this

>>69710017
>no zen arcade

>>69708192
I thought for sure it would get a 7/10, definitely not higher than 7.5 though

Will he ever give another 9?

When the fuck is he gonna review Elseq 1-5

I have a feeling he's going to love it, considering he gave Incunabula and Chiastic Slide both an 8.

>>69712038
The next monae album

Why did my excellent posts get deleted?

Damn, thought he'd give Divers a 7, and Have You In My Wilderness a 6.5

Still really waiting to see what he writes about No Now and Third Side Of Tape.

>>69711384
links?

>>69712038
the life of pablo

>>69707200
I wish I could make a living being so dreadfully devoid of taste.

>>69711056
So he's a pedo, has a clown fetish and a fridge fetish?

Goddamn this dude belongs on /d/

>>69710017
Amazing

>>69710017
How is it that his top albums are actually really good but the rest of his taste is abominable?

honestly scaruffi is a joke that got way too out of hand

he's just an avant-dadrocker with edgy opinions who wants to fuck kids and shitposts on a web 1.0 site

>>69712637
No Now is gonna be a 7 for sure. It's so poppy that it wouldn't be like Scaruffi to grant it a 7.5.

>>69712038
Wait till St. Vincent releases her new album.

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>no Painting With pan

after the BTFO that was Centipede Hz I was looking forward to this

>>69714381
He's also a casual racist too.

>>69714435
>shitposts on a web 1.0 site
You'll eat those words when he successfully creates MEMEJAM

Good, it was trash

>>69709373
I'm ambivalent towards Germano, but Geek The Girl is way better than anything Bowie has put out

>>69707200
No one gives a fuck about your opinion you stupid hipster. Blackstar is a great album

>>69710092
This. Wtf is wrong with this dinosaur Italian autist?

>>69711369
No, blackstar was a pretty great achievement for Bowie, especially within the context of his career.

>>69707200
Fantano gave it a 9, who is the patrician now?

>>69716271
Geek the Girl was just another album about a woman prattling on about bad rape, stalking, and so on is....how droll. Surely this sort thing was old hat even in '94.

>>69716935
t. male

>>69716935
t. lyrics stooge

>>69716920

>Within the context of his career

Yes, so you have to put it into extra-musical context in order to convince yourself that it's good. What if you didn't know about Bowie? What if Brokencyde's albums were all the same, except they had some tragic circumstance surrounding them? At least Brokencyde is good for a laugh and has ironic comedic value. Bowie's work has no value at all. This proves that the album is a joke with no merit.

Also, Bowie's career is terrible so it wouldn't matter anyways. Thank goodness he died.

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>>69708225

>>69716935
t. guy with bat

>>69716973
seconding this, it's obvious that Bowie was one of the biggest trendhoppers in music history => zero artistic credit/originality

Scaruffi never lied to me

>>69714381
>>69715824
/ourguy/

>>69711056
>Shoes, refrigerators, watches and underwear are the real protagonists of history. Everything else is just a footnote to their odyssey.
holy shit i can't stop laughing at this

>>69708275
good looking artists tend to get low scores from scaruffi. Any kind of music where girls are not likely to listen to it tend to get higher scores. That is Scaruffi's bias.

>>69718163
(not true, by the way)

>>69715824
i bet his group of friends is more diverse than yours
http://scaruffi.com/friends/

>>69717127
first of all, the anon you responded to was trolling so hard it hurts my feelings you fell for it. secondly, great artists steal, mate. from Picasso to Joyce to Brancusi to Dylan. Bowie finds a framework by which to explore his talents with both spectacular achievements and dismal failures. is that not the goal of the artist? declaring Bowie had no artistic credibility is such a base and juvenile notion, there goes my feelings again.

It's funny: Scruffy always reviewed Bowie harshly for being fake, and when Bowie tried to be as genuine as possible (i.e. in Blackstar), he still calls him fake. There's no way you can call the last two songs on the album simulacra. They are genuine as anything.

who wants to place bets for scaruffi's aoty 2015 and 2016? closest anon gets 100 memejam points

>>69718917
>http://scaruffi.com/friends/

>Best Friends of all Times

>The fact that so many people still name Dave as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" friend ever only tells you how far friendship still is from becoming a serious art.

>>69718917
why must he take everything in his life and make an autistic list out of it? does he have a page for his shits too?

>>69719090
jealous of his vibrant social life, faggot?

>>69718917
this is hilarious

>>69718983

It's going to be something we've never heard of.

>>69719105
how do i know what his relationship with these people is? for all i know he just takes pictures of random strangers and adds them to his autistic collection of 'friends' in hopes that one day when he accumulates enough 'friends' he will finally understand the true meaning of friendship.

i bet he doesn't actually watch any of the movies he ranks on his site either.

>>69719179
his yearly film pages are based on his favorite critics' assessments. i'd imagine he watches all of the 'must see' category, and maybe a few 'so-so' or 'passable' entries, if he's interested in the director or something.

>>69719258
the same is probably true for his friends page. he's only actually met the ones that he's determined are a 'must see' and the rest he just stores photos of.

>>69719179

He's a university lecturer and a software consultant, and he's very well traveled. He's not some no one with a blog. Just because he doesn't like the same music as you doesn't mean he's a shut-in autist.

>>69708192
that's a good score though

>>69710017
saved

>>69715824
(not true by the way)

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>tfw he liked The Most Lamentable Tragedy and it'll probably get a higher score than ever meme album released in the last 2 years

>>69709021
of course his image is tied to his art, but that's not something exclusive to Bowie. That's pretty much every artist to every receive mainstream or critical acclaim. Music is inherently commercial in modern society, by listening to music you're subscribing to someone's image and letting it represent you in some way.

>>69718938

I'm "the anon you responded to". I was not trolling just because you didn't like what I had to say.

First, he wasn't accusing Bowie of stealing, per se, which he didn't. In fact, artists can "steal" things and produce much better work than Bowie via clever sampling or even collage artistry. "Stealing" outrightly could easily produce better works and Bowie probably "stole" no more than other mediocrities.

Bowie is attacked because he is banal, silly, and non-innovative. He has a set of crazed fanatics that cry and whine over his not getting praised constantly for his drivel output. His best albums, the ones that come closest to innovation (the Berlin Trilogy), should basically be credited to Brian Eno.

>>69720383

it should be higher

at LEAST an 8

it's better than HooM and he gave that an 8.5

>>69718991
Kek

>>69721840
>In 2013 Newsom married comedian Andy Samberg.
FUCKING DROPPED

>6/10

Thankfully, Radiohead abandoned the beats for A Moon Shaped Pool (XL, 2016), their least machine-based album yet, a veritable return to humanity. If the driving minimalist repetition of Burn the Witch sounds like an amateurish impersonation of Michael Nyman augmented with melancholy new-age piano, a couple of the songs display real genius like it rarely happened on their pretentious albums: the creative collage of The Numbers blends distorted Indian-esque music with snippets of orchestral music, massive organ drones and ghostly lysergic chanting; the elaborate ethereal pastiche Daydreaming blends more minimalist repetition with drones and sound effects that are almost musique concrete; Present Tense grafts flamenco-ish guitar and falsetto scat into a Caribbean beat; and Ful Stop sets an electronic threnody to Neu-esque motorik rhythm. Half of the album is wasted in minor detours, such as the somber and spare litany Desert Island Disk and the languid r&b over syncopated digital beat Identikit, but this could be their best album since Amnesiac.

>6/10
>6/10

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>>69712207
yes

>>69712207

not if its as garbage as the last one

>>69708192
his whole review of it is trash
divers was one of the beat albums of last year f a m

>>69724145
6.5/10 is not a bad scaruffi score

>>69707200
he did it again,Ladies and Gentlemen, he did it again!

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>>69707200

>>69724145

agree but I'm not super upset because a 6.5 from Scaruffi isn't actually a pan the same way it would be from most reviewers. it means he still thinks it's *good*, just not great.

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stop posting this

Blackstar
Divers
A Moon Shaped Pool
Have You in My Wilderness

Any other review I'm missing?

Can someone draw me a wojak with huge overdeveloped ears that I can use to express my disdain for the plebs?

Jesus Christ, it's like he thrives off of being contrarian for contrarian's sake

>>69718991
Very audible kek

Did Christgau ever review Black Star? It's not on his website. He's a far more reliable critic (though I think he's stupid-wrong on a lot of stuff I enjoy).

>>69726326
Tortoise

>>69721840
>at LEAST an 8
*7

Can someone link me these reviews? can't find em on his page

>>69710092
that's fucking funny haha

I hate this thread so much

>>69719333
>university lecturer

doesn't really mean much

>>69719258
Who are his favourite critics?

>>69708629
>Is scruffi really a pedo?
are you retarded