ITT we guess where artists are on the political compass

>>69621237
Varg is a 16.

>>69621237
John Maus-3

>>69621237
all the best ones are either 11 or 10 anyway

Michael Gira is a 7... maybe a 4.

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>>69621251

Joe Satriani is probably a 10.

>>69621242
He's a 2 or 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Q4019fEjo

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>>69621267
>tfw right 'libertarians' where actually fash all along

>>69621237
Bob Dylan and Woodie Guthrie are 13, but Dylan is a tiny bit higher up.

>>69621237
well left and right on this chart don't mean liberal or conservative so you're all talking out of your ass

>>69621265
Michael Gira is a leftie

>>69621320
nah he's the top right corner of 4

>>69621343
American liberalism is just a lifestyle choice for some in the center right, not even an actual ideology

>>69621378
correct and everyone thinks this chart is left or right when it's not

>>69621353
Dafuq? He endorsed Bernie. No autharitarian right would vote for the Bern.

>>69621343
This.
The entire political spectrum in America is 8. If the artist in question is an American, they're an 8 unless stated otherwise.

>>69621332
>tfw they all lost their smile after /pol/

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>political compass

>>69621247
Wat
He's a commie

>>69621322
I took from that video that he's an anti-Authoritarian traditionalist, so I'll remain with my stance. He's somewhere between 15-16.

>>69621495
the far left and the alt right are pretty much the same, cause they are both controlled by Putin

>>69621394
"I believe that the black race must be eradicated for the greater good"
- Joe Satriani

>>69621251
Who's an 11?

>>69621569
I believe you're just trolling, but where did you get that quote from?

>>69621604
Eminem

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>>69621251
>>69621267
>>69621332
>>69621439
>"""""libertarian"""""-right
Friendly reminder that """""anarcho"""""-capitalism is an oxymoron.

>>69621546
Go back to droning Arab children in third-world countries and accepting bribes from countries that throw gay people off of rooftops while simultaneously claiming to be a champion of equality, Hillary.

>>69621618
it's from his speech at the Nuremberg Rally 70th anniversary celebration
>trolling
it's called a joke

>>69621633
>Friendly reminder that """""anarcho"""""-capitalism is an oxymoron.
Does that mean that I'll never be able to carpet bomb my neighbour's house with my B-52 because sounds emitted by his TV entered my house, which means that he violated the NAP?

>>69621657
>>>/pol/

>>69621671
Yeah, I do realize that. I just wanted to know who really said that quote.

>>69621713
>everyone who disagrees with my lukewarm center-right neoliberal warmonger is clearly le alt-right

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Here's a pic of me
t. >>69621633

>>69621716
noone c^:
by the way Joe Satriani was in a skinhead gang, that's why he still shaves his head

>>69621633
>>69621751
Apolitical is good. Antipolitical is better.

>>69621633
>privatises the state
wtf I love the state® now!

>>69621751
he looks like someone from the very bottom between 14 and 13

>>69621751
Sorry for triggering you, Mr. "Libertarian." Please don't send MegaCorp©®™ to carpet bomb my house. I didn't mean to violate your NAP.

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>>69621751
>>69621784
This is what 13 looks like

thom yorke and trent reznor

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>>69621751
>>69621784
t. worships a balding kleptocrat

>>69621768
politics is the process of making decisions, it's an unavoidable part of living in a human community. I'd rather have a say in stuff rather than leave it all to technocratic psychopaths or business oligarchs

>>69621882
literally whom
nah I just kidding

>>69621350
Shit, didn't expect that.

>>69621846
Thm is damn leftie, no doubt about it.

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>>69621237
Egor Letov was a 1

>>69622062
shut up faggot
Letov was far lower than the lowest point of 13

>>69621242
>>69621322
he said on his youtube that he believes in communism

>>69622174
> he said on his youtube that he believes in communism

Even Varg is a commie, god damn it.

>>69622085
So the communazi stuff was just memes?

>>69622209
I don't even know who this Varg guy is, but he seems cool now.

>>69622246
an artistic performance
he later told them to fuck off

>>69621237
Kanye is probably 15

>>69622174
He said on a recent video that both communism and capitalism inevitably lead to authoritarian dictatorships. And he doesn't like Norway that much because he says they are very much communists.

Look up The Total Annihilation of Stefan Molyneux

>>69622294
more like 12/8 a.k.a. 'friendly fascism'

>>69622296
Ah, so he's politically illiterate.

>>69621322
he talks about how both communism and capitalist are shit but he quite obviously has a commie bent. pretty surprising to see a white nationalist commie, then again hitler was also a 2 or 3.

>>69621237
I think the Clutch guys are 11. Some of their songs are pretty libertarian, like "Open Up the Border," "The Mob Goes Wild" and "You Can't Stop Progress."

>>69622319
He makes comfy videos though so that makes up for it

>>69622209
Marx himself defined the prehistoric society as a communist one, Varg's 'muh forebears' were commies all along.

>>69622062
The National Bolshevik party was right-wing, they just missed the USSR.

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>>69622323
>Hitler was also a 2 or 3

>>69622357
Where would you put Hitler?

>>69622352
so were the bolshies actually

>>69622357
He was bruh.

>>69622323
It's pretty normal for fascists to talk about disliking capitalism and communism but in practice they're usually pro-capitalism. They just don't like (((global capital)))

>>69622369
Not that guy but obviously a four

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>>69622357
But Hitler was a 2 or a 3.

>>69622352
>The National Bolshevik party was right-wing
Elaborate

>>69622390
I'd agree with you if you were talking about the post-Civil War Bolsheviks and the Comintern. But the Bolsheviks during the revolution were revolutionary as fuck and to say otherwise is pure anarkiddo revisionism.

>>69622400
He wasn't though. I used to think he was a four too but then I actually researched read up about his policies instead of just listening to the generalizations.

>>69622400
So Hitler's a completely free market guy? He's economically a libertarian?

>>69622419
They're Heideggerian fascists with russian characteristics.

>>69622419
much of it was post-ironic memeing. Limonov wrote some columns for the eXile that are pretty much glorified shitposting in broken english

>>69622296
wtf i'm anarcho-primitive now

>>69622422
They were the ultimate opportunists.
In fact I think that the post-modernity started when bolshies took power and declared themselves to be the champions of the proletariat in a country with no substantial proletariat.

Hitler is obviously a 4 because fascism is capitalism's violent reaction against communism. Hence why his support base was businessmen, aristocrats, and the middle class.

>>69622422
>literally took power from workers councils and gave it to bureaucrats
>revolutionary

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>>69622483

>>69622435
I see

>>69622499
You might be mistaking Hitler with Pinochet if you think Hitler's a 4.

>>69622495
The only reason the USSR ended up like it did was because of the failure of global revolution

>>69622534
yet again,
>muh global industrial revolutionaries
>in a peasant country
the very fact that they had any power is ridiculous alone, they should've been shot by the councils. I'm not even talking about their vile and deluded notions and policies. Literally a religious sect.

>>69622506
Wasn't until the civil war.

Dumb anarchist scum.

>>69622499
Hitler actually had some borderline socialist/commie policies with a fascist/nationalist bent of course.

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>>69622369
>>69622394
>>69622410
Are you fuckwits actually retarded? How is fascism anything but far-right?

>>69622602
>Hitler actually had some borderline socialist/commie policies
>gave massive tax cuts to the rich and privatized a bunch of industry

Kek. Even the "socialists" in the party just wanted racist social democracy.

>>69622633
It's probably American education.

>>69622397
Fascism is capitalism in decay.

>>69622633
That political compass's far right isn't who is more of a meanie head. It's just based on economic policies. His views on society are represented in the vertical scale.

>>69622677
t. clueless trot

Fascism is what happens in response to the failures of proletarian movements.

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>>69622691
This

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This is the compass of the 2016 election taken from their website.

>>69622633
Don't think you understand the political compass.

>>69622731
the political compass is garbage desu

>>69622633
Try removing race/nationalism from the picture and look at the policies of fascist regimes.
What unites fascists is nationalism/social darwinism.

>>69622731
Completely untrue. If you run the candidates actual policies through the test yourself you will get a much different result with all of them.

>>69622742
this
politics is more complicated than these stupid compasses would lead you to believe

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>>69622742
Of course it is. Check out the 2012 one from their website.

Thom Yorke is probably a 10.

>>69622731
>Rubio right of Cruz
I seriuously hope you guys don't do this

>>69622759
I'd say he's a 9

>>69622753
Again this is from the compass creators

>>69621700
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHEzU1BLp8o

>>69621237

can't be libertarian and have a belief in left-wing economics

>>69622731
all wrong
Bush was in the center of the blue, trump is far right side of the blue square closer to its bottom

>>69622499
>>69622633
>>69622677
ITT: idiot left-wingers who immediately conclude that fascism can only be a right-winged phenomenon cuz "muh class struggle"

>>69622810
Doesn't it look skewed?

>>69622731
>>69622757
this is so bad, holy shit

>>69622731
Clinton is more authoritarian than Trump though

>>69622750
>nationalism/social darwinism
Both things that are intensely right-wing.
Again, are you retarded or just American?
>>69622691
>>69622736
>>69622816
Same goes to all of (You).

>>69622846
Again that is represented on the vertical scale.

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>>69622852

>>69622846
>calling us retarded when they can't even understand how a chart works
Look at the chart again. Does it only go left to right? No.

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This is the UK chart taken straight from politicalcompass.org's analysis

>>69622846
If you look at the policies of Hitler/Mussolini they can get pretty leftie even though it's only within the confines of their nation/race. I obviously don't agree with that so idk why you're getting so mad.

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Another one from politicalcompass.org

>>69622792
kek

>>69622920

This chart is notoriously incorrect and outdated these days.

>>69622961
>>69622846
>Dictators
>fitting on the political compass
It's what they say, goes, which means that if they're a sufficiently unstable individual they can vacillate all over the top half from day to day.

>>69623025
It's the chart from politicalcompass.org's team from the 2015 election.

>>69622980
>Authoritarian (Fascism)
This isn't your average, everyday political illiteracy.

>>69621751
Neck beards make me sick

>>69623055
It's from politicalcompass.org's page after you take the test
Complain to them.

>>69622980
stalin should be a mirror image of hitler.
in the top right corner of the red square

>>69623042
Which is why they're a 2 or 3. You can have far-right non-nationalists(e.g Singapore) and nationalist commies but most nationalists are fucking idiots who just follow whatever is trending.

>>69623152
>Nationalist commies

>>69623185
National Bolsheviks exist. But they really don't make much sense.

>>69623185
Of course it's stupid but nationalists are stupid.

>>69623108

Libertarians and an-caps also tend to dislike immigrants and other cultures and social decay, they just think the state should stop subsidizing those things

>>69622008
>nothing rapes you like a cop with his club
>all of the lyrics in 'power for power'

>>69622756
Political compass is still better than the left-right meme.

>>69623548
both are shit

>>69623427
Just privatise the immigrants

>>69623548

I disagree, if you make an axis that's "everything is public property" on the left and "everything is private property" on the right, you get a pretty good idea of a person's values.

>>69622846
>nationalism
>intensely right wing
you have no idea what you are talking about. I suggest not discussing topics you know nothing about.

>>69622980
>Stalin
>less authoritarian than Hitler
wew

>>69623956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RakHW5530Q

>>69621333
Dylan is pro-Zionist, and if he lived in Israel would probably support Likud. Listen to Neighborhood Bully. This probably makes him 5 or 6

>>69622400
Pinochet and 60s Franco would have been a 4. No other fascist or quasi-fascist would be right of 3. Most would be 2.

>>69623973
>Norm's argument is "that's what they all say"
I say again, wew.

inb4 >>>/pol/

>>69624109
What's your opinion on the Holocaust?

>>69624123
Heavily exaggerated. Any conversation about it's exaggeration gets shut down with accusations of being a "nazi" with no actual discussion by people who believe everything that the teachings of schools are infallible facts.

>>69624241
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>69624241
No, it did happen. And it's a seriously subject, as 14 million Jews lost their lives because of Hiter and his jealousy.

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>>69624241
>>69624423
>sam hyde tranny slaves

>>69624241
So, 14 million jewish people didn't die in Hitler's death camps? How can you say this?

>>69624473
>>69624423

Aproximatly 6 million jews died in the holocaust and aproximatly 12 million people in total. This is common knowledge.

>also samefag

>>69624599
You're denying the holocaust by saying 14 million Jews didn't die you fucking nazi.

>>69621633
funny, i saw another version of this where blue and green were considered not to exist, with red and purple being presented as the only valid ideologies as "slavery" and "freedom", respectively.

>>69624983
That's so fucking dumb.

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>>69622323
>hitler was also a 2
i hate this meme, hitler was definitely on the right, just not that far into it (on this chart, technically). he was definitely a 3. nazism is centrism gone wild.
now who the FUCK wants some compass memes

>>69625149
Post em

>>69625149
>Pol Pot was communist
When will this meme fucking die? He was a CIA-backed anti-communist.
>North Korea is communist
This meme should also die.


I'm digging Jesus Christ's placement in the lower left quadrant, though.

>>69624241
Outright Holocaust denial is on the same level as 9/11 trutherism or thinking there was no historical Jesus. Maybe the Soviets fudged the numbers by a few hundred thousand, but that's the most.

>>69625454
>the US government had absolutely no involvement with 9/11

>>69625326
Jesus as a proto-pinko is a meme. His only political positions were that you should pay your taxes to Caesar and that a armed Jewish rebellion was a horrible idea (he was right about this).

>>69624651
37 million jews have died

>>69625454
>2016
>Doesn't accept that 9/11 was an inside job

>>69624471
wtf I like Sam Hyde now

>>69625149
founding fathers are between hitler and clinton

>>69624471
I'm jealous

>>69621332
I don't get the guy on the top right, why must hedonists, pagans and homosexuals be removed in order to maintain a libertarian society? Surely that is counter to the essence of libertarian. Rather than people living their life freely and separate from the state, the state must remove elements that don't confine within certain perimeters. What's he's describing is authoritarianism in its essence, only calling it by the opposite name.

>>69625562
He literally said that it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter Heaven. Did you also miss the verses where he whips a bunch of tax collectors, constantly preaches loving your neighbor and uniting as one, and is killed by a police state?

>>69624022
>Zionist
So he's top right then

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>>69626402
That's precisely, exactly the point of the entire right side. These """""libertarians""""" are just fascists in disguise.

>>69625149
wtf I love Jesus now.

>>69622852
top kek, I forgot about this meme

>>69626617
The vast majority of the people in that image were talking about context sensitive examples.

For example, I'm sure we're all in favour of democracy. However there are a number of instances throughout history where democracy can stifle economic growth. For example, compare contemporary China with India.

Most of the people in that image are arguing that in certain contexts certain political systems do no work.

>>69626899
>For example, I'm sure we're all in favour of democracy. However there are a number of instances throughout history where democracy can stifle economic growth. For example, compare contemporary China with India.

And in those situations, you choose where your principles really lie.

These people simply aren't libertarians (well, Rothbard still is) because their second statements show that they're willing to abandon libertarian principles.

If you abandon a principle at the first sign of trouble, and then say 'in this case it was OK', you never really believed in that principle in the first place.

>>69627706
>These people simply aren't libertarians (well, Rothbard still is)
How is siccing a militarized police force on innocents at ALL "libertarian?"

>>69626899

I'm not in favor of democracy. Read "Democracy - The God that Failed" by Hoppe to see how it's a failure

>>69626402

Libertarianism is all about private property rights, including the right to exclude. He argues that without socialism, and without subsidizing poor behavior, it also does a lot to get rid of social degeneration.

Really, libertarianism is as conservative as it gets, in terms of believing in the natural order of things and letting them play out. The concept was hijacked by leftists a while back.

>>69626571
>Implying that thinking wealth leads to decadence is left-wing
>Implying that usury and treating the sacred as profane is right-wing
>Implying that individualism/classical liberalism is right-wing and communitarism is left-wing
>Implying that a populist mob didn't force the Romans to do it
>Trying to Immanentize the Eschaton
>Having this conversation on /mu/ and not /lit/ or /his/

>>69622846
>I label everything I don't like as right wing because I identify to left wing

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