I'm a Muslim and I was wondering who the fuck is Muslimgauze

>>69598545
>why all of his artworks were fucking racist?
go to bed, Jafar

>>69598574
*crying emoji + thumbs up emoji*

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>>69598545
Nothing racist about that artwork. Quite the contrary, Bryn Jones was infatuated with Arab and Islamic culture and society.

>>69598642
Yeah man I just googled it and found he was actually pro-muslims, even though some of his artworks don't support this but yeah. It just gets on my nerves how some people still don't realize Muslim terrorists are like 5% of the Muslim population, if not less.

>>69598707
Indeed.

he was a white british guy who was pro-arab and anti-israel
he never visited the middle east in his life time, he died in his thirties
some Muslimgauze is p good
some is tedious

>>69598747
Can you recommend any of his good stuff?

>Muslim
>Race

>>69598747
>Pro-arab
It's called pro-palestine

>>69598796
Mullah Said
Return of Black September
Izlamaphobia

>>69598707
I realize that, but the 5% covers 90% of the imam, so... you know

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>>69598545
Race =/= Religion

>>69598545
>the muslim race

???

>I'm a muslim
Out, deceived one

>>69598707
you get the same thing with witch house
wiccans are generally nice people, but according to witch house (who i suspect are mostly lapsed catholics like the industrial scene were), witches are scary spooky people

>>69598707
>1 out of every 20 Muslims is a terrorist
>An estimated 800,000,000 Muslims are terrorists

That's not horrifying at all

>>69598545
>Islam
>race

kek

>>69599064
>a group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group.
>"we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then"
>synonyms: ethnic group, racial type, origin, ethnic origin, color

>>69599055
Hello FBI I would like to submit an anonymous tip

>>69599084
Those things dont represent Islam

Islam is a component of those cultures not the other way around

>>69598545

lmao who the fuck cares, muzzies are the cancer of this world

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>>69599084
>implying all muslims are the same race
>implying north africans are arabs
>implying pakistanis are arabs
>implying indonesians are arabs
>implying you can only be muslims if you're an arab

fuck off m8 this is why no one likes ya

>>69599093
اها

>>69599109
it's 2016 bruv
of course religion informs culture
its not like there are people rewriting the quran to include fucking x-factor and hashtags is it

>>69599163
and to think they invented algebra

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>>69598982
>gatestone
>John bolton

dropped

I'm an israeli jew and I love Muslimgauze. Take this shit to /pol/.

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>tfw no Arab-Chan

>>69599246
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Y'all need to read more about Islam. On non-American websites where Muslims and Islam get portrayed like all of you see them, evil and oppressing.

>>69599146
>يرجى دعونا نكون أصدقاء

اسكت، أنت الديوث البكم

>>69599265
if you were talking specifically about Wahabbism you could *maybe* make that point, but the whole of Islam? nope

>>69599084
Arabs and Indonesians are both mostly Muslim yet have completely different cultures, histories and languages.

does anyone have that "how to get into muslimgauze" flowchart

>>>/pol/

This is some insufferable shit right here

>>69599409
indonesia isn't really muslim, they got their own shit going on
it's as much hindu as it is muslim

>>69599416
258 albums nigga. Just grab one and tune in.

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>>69599426
>indonesia isn't really muslim

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>>69599319
Everything I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9/11

>>69599426
are you retarded

>>69599455
it's not regular islam though it's their own weird remix of it

please do some actual research, i'm not going to debate this with you by posting screencaps of google

I'm a Muslim and I fell in love with a Christian girl last summer, we've been together and we broke up a month ago. Did I blow her up? The fuck no

>>69599490
>no true scotsman

>>69599518
Then you're a shitty Muslim. Does it not say to kill infidels in the koran?

>>69599490
There's an island that has fucking Sharia law

>>69599518
>tfw no gf
You really do belong here

islam is quite literally a fucking death cult

>>69598951
No one, and I do mean NO one under the age of 70 is afraid of wiccans. They're the most lameass "religion" (or whatever you want to call it) ever. I'm more justified in being afraid of Zen monks than those weakass fucks. They're just a slightly darker shade of New Age faggotry.

>>69599537
First of all, it'a Quran*
Secondly, Bro you're fucking brainwashed lol

>>69599537
The history book portions mention it. The teachings portions do not.

>>69599518
>tfw this fucking apostate can get a gf but even if I died a glorious martyr I'd probably have no gf in heaven

It's /mu/sic not /mu/slim go explode (peacefully) somewhere else

>>69599550
are you really confusing religion with justice?

So, on the topic of Muslimgauze.

I've listened to every full-length and EP he released from 1983 up to the first half of 1993. It's about 15 hours of music and while it doesn't all sound the same, variation is so subtle it takes about five albums to notice any change at all. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it a lot, but it's just *so much*, and the albums I haven't listened are about twice or thrice the amount of albums I have listened to.

My point is: Is it worth exploring any further? Have I had enough? Am I missing some hidden masterpiece further down the line? Could I, conersely, do without most of the 90s stuff? What the fuck possessed this man to record so much music in such a short period of time? Was it Allah? It was him, wasn't it

>>69599599
Look at the state of this board
Look at how the pig, infidel mods and janitors have failed you
Look at all of the godless whores that posters worship
Only the system of Sharia can bring this board to justice


Nice numbers btw

>>69598707
as mentioned by others your percentage is way too way. the fact is that although an extremely low proportion of muslims are actual terrorists, a HUGE number of muslims support the acts and radical views of muslim terrorists, not to mention that their acts are literally supported by their text.

islam needs a reformation

>>69599599
tfw muslim musician that's been browsing /mu/ since '09.

The cultural enrichment's here to stay, m8

>>69599574
I'd argue that YOU are brainwashed by subscribing to a literal cult that explicitly calls for hatred and acts of violence against non-believers.

i think it's time for this thread to die

>>69599657
Not before someone answers this >>69599612

Fact: Islam is inherently bad and if you are a muslim you are doing something wrong
/thread

>>69598545
>>69598707
Are muslims seriously so thin-skinned that they take any image of something islam-related that is the slightest bit unconventional and call it racist?

The amount of racists and close-minded people on here who claim so on Muslims is kinda scary.

>>69599698
>Muslims are scary
I agree

>>69599696
Most people are. Look at african americans. Look at aussies. Chech the FUCK out of latinos. Cannot make fun of them, cannot make a slight reference to them, some of them will even get offended by simply pointing out that they exist.

>>69599698
The fact that you think muslims are a race is racist and close-minded.

reminder that if you're a muslim it's against your religion to take an interest in haram music

>>69599698
Guys this is b8
No one actually believes this

>>69599705
I guess I'm a bit of an assburger myself because I don't like the idea of skipping albums (unless the artist/band went through very different stages and some of those aren't of my liking).

>Autism. Literally.
Maybe Allah is a very very ancient word that originally meant Autism!

>>69599612
I love Muslimgauze, he's a unique and inspiring artist. I do admit his output is a tad unequal in terms of quality, he just had so much stuff out that some of it is not as polished and interesting as others.

I do heavily recommend you check out other parts of his catalog, since most of the typical Muslimgauze sound didn't come into existence until the mid-90s. This is where some of the harsher and more mysterious elements in his music are beginning to take form.

I would recommend you drop the full-album course and do some youtube cruising, where you can get the full scope of the Muslimgauze diversity in individual tracks. I think YT has decent and mostly representative selection.

I also think the trio listed in >>69598819 makes sense as a representative sample of Jones's work. I would maybe add Vote Hezbollah and United States of Islam, as both are considered high-profile releases. Possibly Sufiq too,which is a shorter release and gives you an idea of the harsher style.

>>69598545
go cry somewhere else.

>>69599724
>Leaving out da Juice
Even if you spend every waking hour on 4chan you should realize that you can't use white and male in the same sentence without hurting someone's feelings

>>69599604
Are you saying having Sharia law implemented is not a sign that the people there are real Muslims?

>>69599705
>>What the fuck possessed this man to record so much music in such a short period of time?
What about, you know, inspiration?

>>69599385
majority of muslims believe in sharia law and various human rights violations, its not like christianity where maybe 2% of practicing christians actually follow the bible's word

>>69599775
what do you mean by 'real muslims'?

>>69599776
Some sort of inspiration to do the same thing over and over a dozen times per year? That's called autism.

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>>69598707
>Only 5% of 31% of the world's population are terrorists.

>>69599783
It also helps that the bible doesn't tell you to inflict violence on others.

>>69599795
I'm using the term you used.

>>69599807
shame about the crusades then eh

>>69599783
>where maybe 2% of practicing christians actually follow the bible's word
This is why Christians are shit actually.
Don't tell me you fell for le scary Dooteronomy and Levy-ticus meme

oh no this is such a big deal how will we continue as a civilization with these slanderous images existing and every single person on earth seeing it and getting the exact same meaning from it

>>69599674
this

I don't care where you come from or your skin color, but islam itself is dangerous. the world will never truly unite with a widespread religion that claims to be ultimate and encourages that concept.

>>69599815
but what do you mean by it?

>>69599820
The Crusades happened in spite of the teachings of Christ not because of them. They were also hundreds of years ago.

>>69599797
I wouldn't say his stuff is redundant. For an electronic artist he is pretty versatile. The fact he used a lot of live percussion and sampling also keeps things more diverse.

>>69599739
You realize most muslim countries have some sort of music scene, right? Scenes that are popular with the majority of the youth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw4tT7SCmaY

>>69599822
Those books are hardly relevant anymore for even the most devout modern Christian

>>69599829
I don't mean anything by it because I call them Muslims. There's no such thing as a real or fake Muslim. If you follow Islam, like the majority of Indonesia, you're a Muslim.

>>69599848
ok

>>69599846
And they shouldn't be very relevant. Only inbred American protestants disagree.

Guys, you forget countries like Egypt or Lebanon where the majority of people are Muslims but they're actually open-minded and have a music scene and an art scene in general despite of countries like Israel, UK and France trying to invade their countries.

>>69599864
I seriously doubt those inbred americans have even read those books. They're only about a dozen pages long but they're the densest, most dull, boring, bureaucratic readings I've ever forced myself through. It's all "If some dude looks at you wrong but doesn't do anything to you then you may go and say "fuck" to his face and then sacrifice three birds in the altar as a burnt offering and then use the ashes to make tea that then you drink with the dude to make peace but if the dude says "fuck" back to you then you can slap him in the right thigh and then you both have to go slaughter a newborn calf as long as it doesn't have three horns or some shit and then roast half the meat for God (because he needs to eat smoke for some reason) and then bitterly eat the other half together then each of you go home and have a wash" FOR FUCK'S SAKE GET ON WITH IT

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>>69598707
>i-i-it's only 1 out of 20 of us that are terrorists!!!!!!

>>69599906
>despite of countries like Israel, UK and France trying to invade their countries.
Israel and Egypt have a peace treaty.

>>69599926
Doesn't take away from the fact that they hated and invaded eachother in turns for a millenia

>>69599490
Looked it up, what do you know? They're sunni with a shia majority in Jakarta. For the record, there is no regular Islam. That's why the fuck muslims have been killing each other since the death of their prophet.

On a music related note, Recitations is probably the coolest thing to come out of Islam. Wish I knew more about it without having to convert.

>>69599910
There's no reason to read them well unless you're a conservative Jew.

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>>69599926
>Israel respecting treaties

Bahahahaha

>>69599937
>for a millenia
What did he mean by that

>>69599944
I read the entire bible, but only out of sheer curiosity (and so that I would have some real basis in my opinions about its content)

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>>69599948
It'd be pretty stupid of Israel to invade a country that it's trying to keep out.

>>69599950
You mean it was too short or too long an estimate?

>>69599490
There is no such thing as regular Islam. Just as it is with Christianity there are many different sects and ways to approach worship and all that shit(Shiite?). Check out Sufi-ism, it's the 3rd most popular variant, and is quite distinct from Sunni and Shiite. Also Sufi's in pakistan have an amazing musical tradition called Quawalli.
Here's a link to keep this somewhat music related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrwJ8J3fwL0

ITT Half my family is from North Africa which has a long Islamic tradition.

>>69599974
Israel was founded in 1948 m8

>>69599941
it's similar but they do weird things like leaving offerings, which comes from hinduism
but yeah you can be semantically general and call them sunni muslims, i don;t mind
this appears to be a debate about definitions, and i'm not really interested in that

meem

>>69599982
yeah i know all this
sufis are best muslims IMHO but mainly because they borrowed a ton of xtian stuff

Bruh I'm an Egyptian Muslim who's bumping Starboy rn, it's trash I know but I'm about to fuck this girl to it so it's whatever

>>69600000
welp.

>>69599986
For fuck's sake, mate, I don't mean literally the contemporary State Of Israel. Get your brain out of the bleach bucket.

>>69600018
>Muslim
>fucking girls
You're no Muslim

>>69600021
So you mean during the early bronze age? Before there was Arabs and Islam? How is that relevant to anything?

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http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/06/16/heres-everything-wanted-say-islam-yesterday-couldnt/

Really makes you think.

>>69600045
Why don't people get that Muslims, just like Christians, can do whatever the fuck they want. They don't have to follow the Quran which definitely doesn't support terrorism by any means?

>>69600057
>breitbart
didnt read lol

>>69600057
>breitbart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhdymoRTz6M

>>69599807
Is this bait? In the the Old Testament god commands violence almost every 5th page. Ethnic cleansing is essentially justified in the sections about the Canaanites. Go back to bible school.

>>69600000
FUCKING KEK

>>69600070
>can do whatever the fuck they want
but they don't

>>69600047
We're talking about Israel (as in, the ancient tribes) and Egypt. Hating eachother. For centuries. You're telling me this isn't true? The first significant event in their history is telling Egypt to go fuck itself, and they kept at it until Israel got fucked by the Roman empire

The jews backed every single arab invasion in egypt, too

And then there's every fucking thing that happened since the 50s

>>69598957

>tfw there are 16 billion people in the world and that's just the muslims

pretty horrifying in terms of sustainability yes

>>69600070
Because it would mean we'd have to humanize them and treat them as individuals instead of some big bad monolith. We were always at war with Eurasia!

>>69600072
>>69600076
Or, you know, you could actually read the text which was written by an outside contributor.

For the record, I fucking hate Milo but he fantasticly dissects Islam and presents it for what it is. A death cult.

>>69600045
>You're no Muslim

YOU AIN'T NO MUSLIM BRUV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgNUwrIuihE

>>69600070
My point was that true Muslems don't waste their time with inferior human vaginas, but actually favour goats. Get your facts straight, dude.

>>69600070
>the Quran which definitely doesn't support terrorism by any means
Hahahahaha

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>>69600000

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>>69600000
wew lad

>>69600107
>but actually favour goats

No one wants to bang yr mum. Stop begging us, Cleetus.

>>69599994
For the record, the school of thought they follow was written by a native Arab.

>this appears to be a debate about definitions, and i'm not really interested
You were the one to bring up the supposed differences in their practice (not regular/traditional Islam). Now, you can't be bothered? Bitch ass back-tracking. Can't even remember what you said in the first place.

>>69600091
The only similarity between ancient and current day Egyptians is the territory that they (partially) inhabit. Ancient Egyptians weren't Arabs, probably weren't Semites, and definitely weren't Muslims (as there was no Islam).

Kingdom of Judea and Egypt had pretty good relationship for the most part, by the way. They even united for a while against Assyria (not that it helped them much but anyway).

>>69599537
>the Quran which definitely doesn't support terrorism by any means?
You obviously didn't read your shitty ass book muhammed

Y'all need Jesus to come back to life and tell you Islam and Muslims are not bad. There are shitty Muslim individuals just like there is shitty people from every religion, maybe you'all believe by then. (People are acting like there isn't fucking Christian cannibals for example lol)

>>69600169
All religion and faith is cancer.

>>69600179
*le

>>69600070
mudslimes pls go and stay go
actually religion as a whole could fuck off to a different planet
there's nothing wrong with spiritualism but religion as an institution is obsolete in this day and age and it's only holding us back

>>69600151
yeah, well someone was trying to tell me that the concept of race could not include religious differences, because religion was a component of culture (hmm)
in defence of that argument he said that muslims existing in indonesia meant that race and religion were distinct concepts

my point about definitions was that the actions of the group are more relevant than their proclaimed religion, because culture is defined by practice, in practice

but as with most conversations here, it disintegrated into a semantic argument, and i'm not really interested in debating the meanings of words

>>69600169
>People are acting like there isn't fucking Christian cannibals for example lol
And rapists, too.

>>69600211
>religion as an institution is obsolete in this day and age and it's only holding us back

religion is directly responsible to nearly every facet of western life. from art, literature, music, and democracy. you're ignorance is astounding sir and I plead you to read a book instead of watching 5 second vine clips.

>>69600169
My experiences with Muslims:

-a handful or so of obviously Muslim yoofs ganging up on me and another guy late one night while we were waiting for our order at a fucking kebab house of all places
-my girlfriend and several of my female friends getting harassed on public transportation and followed around by other groups of Muslim yoofs
-an older Muslim living near my grandparents' neighborhood chaining a live dog up to the back of his car and then driving around until the dog turned into an bloody pile of meat and bones (RIP doggo)
-a Muslim kid I was going to school with ages ago beating the tar out of another one of my schoolmates and blinding him in one eye

These personal experiences combined with information such as the stuff mentioned in >>69598982 , stuff which is in reality just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Muslim savagery in Europe, has my mind pretty much made up about the whole thing.
Sorry.

>>69600211
the problem is that humans are naturally religious, and when you have a secular society people find other things to be evangelical about, like politics
which is where we are now

>>69600277
that's why I said 'in this day and age' you dingus, it wasn't always a bad thing, but religion is past its prime as a cultural development entity

>>69600169
You're spitting that truth, bro.

>>69600325
without religion everything is permitted

>this whole fucking thread
I wish people with political crusades to fight would fuck off to the appropriate board.
Muslimgauze is pretty neat though.

if you took all the terrorism away Muslims would still be fucking awful
overly sensitive
entitled
violent
self righteous (the women especially)
stupid
sexually repressed

>>69600398
desu this sounds like the entire human race

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>>69600398

>>69600366
citizens must abide by the law, not their religion, if they are to belong to their respective countries
also morals can exist without religion, I find it hard to believe that someone would lose their empathy if they also were to lose their religion, surely assholes like that exist but we all know they are assholes anyway regardless of their beliefs

>>69600412
Really makes you think...

>>69600412
>>69600433
shut the fuck up

>>69600454
ok so you already seem

>overly sensitive
>entitled
>violent
>self righteous
>stupid
>sexually repressed

>>69600473
are you Muslim or have you never met a Muslim?
they're just not good people

Proud to who you are.

>>69600496
you're projecting pretty hard there, you sure you want to continue?

>>69600511
Rasheed

>>69600511
Nah he's right.

>>69600398
That's like 99% of 4chan posters.

>>69600511
Shut the fuck up Hussein

Let's all agree that all humans are fucked up one way or another

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

>>69600525
>>69600538
>>69600534

great argument guys

>>69600549
Rasheed

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>>69600558

>>69600541
I think the Great Filter is civilizations not being able to move to a different planet before completely fucking up the one they were born in

>>69600541
agreed, such wise words

C O E X I S T

>>69600549
there's actually a lot of information provided in this thread on islam's incompatibility with the civilized world though
you just keep going for the low-hanging fruit because you're an intellectually lazy coward

>>69599197
no you're not

After reading this thread you can't help but wonder where are all the anti-Trump people

>>69600583
oh wow you really weren't done projecting

please tell me what you mean by 'the civilized world'

>>69600398
Sounds just like nearly all Brazilian Evangelicals I have met.

Source: I am a huefag

>>69600605
A world where everyone finds mayonnaise spicy.

>>69600169
>>>tumblr

>>69600605
Europe and only Europe

I know old muslims in my streets who dress up like Sunn O))) guys

it's funny

Y'all need the love of Jesus Christ.

>165 / 15 / 49 / 1

God fucking damnit... Jesus brainless, horseraping fucking christ. You fucking morons need to take this shit to >>>/pol/

This is why /mu/ needs to be cleansed once and for all. This is not about music anymore.

>hurrr le alt-right memesician
>hurrr im an angry libtard u racist piece of shit!!!
>durrr this shit is racist let's discuss politics in a /mu/sic board xD

Fuck you, fuck all of you. /mu/ is fucking done. I really hope /mu/ gets deleted. You stupud fucking cunts ruined it.

>>69600600
Trump is a neocon clown(though he was by far the lesser evil compared to Clinton) and I'm pretty left-wing on most subjects(though I still find most liberals to be fucking loathsome, but that's another subject entirely).
Islam isn't one of those subjects though.

>>69600605
A world where everyone can accept eachothers opinion and belief and don't fight or explode themselves over these differences

>>69600632
Arab Drone when?

>>69600612
haha..... its funny because white people!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

>>69600277
this desu

everything went downhill after greek-style pantheism. everybody starting insisting that their religion was the (( right )) religion

>>69600651
ok so let's all just agree to get along then

my takeaway today is: humans are all stupid, fuck it

/thread

>>69600651
B-but the Crusades! B-but the Old Testament!

>>69600660
arab music has been droning since the 8th century

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>>69600649
>though he was by far the lesser evil compared to Clinton

Not true btw. He's everything people accused Clinton of being, but worse.
Pic very related.

>>69600647
lol

>>69600661
Sorry for triggering your PMSD

>>69600660
they don't really like drones in Arab countries

>>69600703
they're both bags of shit but trump is less warmongering and more isolationist

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>>69600169
This. Why don't people act with hostility towards Christians because there are Christian radicals who will bomb abortion clinics? Why do we not treat Buddhists with hostility because they are attacking other religious groups in Sri Lanka? There is definitely a racist and xenophobic element at play when people discriminate specifically towards Islam.

>>69600735
is that why he called taiwan

>>69600300
where do you live?

>>69600778
he isn't even president yet you fuck

>>69600772
this is bait right?

>>69600798
so what? he still did it

>>69600703
>He's everything people accused Clinton of being, but worse.

It's actually the exact reverse though lel.
Trump is awful but as a European the only thing I'm interested in is whether or not he will alleviate or intensify the tensions between the US/Europe and Russia, and there's good reason to believe that he will do the former.

Clinton already has a massive amount of blood on her hands and she'd think nothing of coming into serious, possibly militarized conflicts with Russia(or even certain European countries like Serbia) as long as it was profitable enough for her.

>>69600778
>making an overblown breach of etiquette that's been largely downplayed by the Chinese govt
>actively posturing on western edge of Russia and making broad claims without intelligence community official confirmation that elections were hacked by a foreign power

one of these is warmongering behavior, and one of these is just sort of stupid.

>>69598707
5% of the muslims kill and bomb people while 95% agree with them

>>69600735
>denies global warming
>pro-fossil fuels
>pro-media censorship
>cluelessly stirred up shit between China and Taiwan
>picks fights with people on twitter
>chose people that believe in conversion therapy for gays for his cabinet.
>one of his cabinet members owns Breitbart which are known for publishing false/misleading stories

Hillary was the lesser evil by far. The emails don't even compare.

>>69600819
No i'm completely serious. do you have a point or refutation to make or are you just talking out your ass?

>>69600840
yeah, i actually agree
clinton was gearing up for a full on war with russia, but i don't think trump is going to be much better
you can't be friends with russia AND china

>>69600853
you seriously think the amount of terrorism, deaths, violence, human rights violations, etc of BUDDHISTS is comparable to that of Islam?

if you seriously cannot see something idiotic about that, just kill yourself now.

>>69600840
>without intelligence community official confirmation that elections were hacked by a foreign power

but wait, i thought the cia did confirm this yesterday

>>69600874
not him but china aren't exactly squeaky clean

>>69600845
>le emails meme

you realize that people have grievances with HRC that aren't tied to the Benghazi emails, right? her actual tenure as secretary of state, things that were out in the open without Wikileaks needing to do anything, was one of needless provocation of foreign powers like Russia, a refusal to cooperate with stable powers in the Middle East, and an active role in toppling a legitimate government in Libya for the sole purpose of destabilizing the region. her domestic policy was not left-wing at all, including her actual formal written bill to outlaw burning the flag (something you amnesiac millennial fuckwits decided to boo hoo about Trump tweeting about when i bet he knew it would be guaranteed bias in social media response and wanted to make a point). HRC also was also far more cuddly with Robert Byrd than Trump has been with David Duke. HRC and the DNC as a whole cooperate with outlets like the Washington Post, CNN, and Huffington Post which all have demonstrable biases and push fake news like the Russian election hack scandal that has so far been verified by literally 0 intelligence agencies on record, just a load of anonymous sources (you know, the same kind of anon sources that gave us pizzagate, your favorite example of the evils of fake news? well this fake news could lead us into a fucking war)

>>69600874
Depends, did the US govt fuck up Buddhist countries by setting up/overthrowing dictators and then bomb them to oblivion, only to turn away the refugees said bombing generated?

>>69600845
>denies global warming
>pro-fossil fuels
and this makes a difference from what hillary would do how? besides pretending to care about the environment?

>pro-media censorship
oh no le 1939 Dx


>cluelessly stirred up shit between China and Taiwan
so much worse that constantly pushing the US to engage in immoral and opportunist wars in the middle east right?

>picks fights with people on twitter
now you're just trolling. who gives a fuck


>one of his cabinet members owns Breitbart which are known for publishing false/misleading stories
>chose people that believe in conversion therapy for gays for his cabinet.
do you not know what a cabinet member is? you think its a dictatorship or something and they just snap their fingers and suddenly they control all the laws?

>>69600935
You mean other than Vietnam?

>>69600874
Do some fucking research. Buddhist terrorist groups in Sri Lanka are attacking evangelical Christians and Muslims in the area and have been for years now. But I suppose you just believe in the typical western stereotype "le all Buddhists are peaceful monks!!" meme and don't know or care about it.

Yes, Muslim terrorists have likely killed more than Buddhist terrorists or Christian terrorists. But where do you draw the line? all religions have extremists who will kill for their religion. To say one is worse than the other is foolish - It's ALL bad. But we don't discriminate against any religion except Islam for their extremists. How is this not fucking racist? You clearly need to educate yourself.

t. Religious Studies Major

>>69600930
B-but he said grab them by the pussy! B-but Hillary claims to be a feminist!

>>69600935
yes, that's why Saudi women are treated as property and can't even drive or leave the house without wearing a shower curtains. its all le big bad US imperialists

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>>69598707
Dude, 'terrorist' is a functionally meaningless thrown at people who fight against imperialism. Israel and the USA do even worse shit everyday but nobody cares because they are backed by trillions in cash and the propaganda machine that is the western media.

>>69600867
>can't be friends with Russia AND China
who are Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, North Korea...

>>69598545
>current year
>being muslim
You're holding our people back, OP.

>>69600965
cringe

>>69600959
>Yes, Muslim terrorists have likely killed more than Buddhist terrorists or Christian terrorists
>To say one is worse than the other is foolish
>How is this not fucking racist?

Is it confusing to you that people complain the loudest about the worst offenders? There's literally nothing wrong with that.

>>69600972
The bible belt is ripe with homophobia, sexism and other kinds of discrimination despite the fact they enjoy cushy first world lives.

>>69600959
nobody said all buddhists were peaceful monks, but nice diversion from the arguement!
did you not read my post?

>you seriously think the amount of terrorism, deaths, violence, human rights violations, etc of BUDDHISTS is comparable to that of Islam?
well do you?

and my second question, you seriously think westerners who have direct contact with muslims and muslim conflicts care about what's happened to buddhists in countries they've never even heard of?
or are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>69599378
غير مهذب

>>69600883
Washington Post has alluded to 'secret CIA assessments' sourced from anonymous individuals. there is literally no evidence for this claim being put forward by a neutral govt organization right now. there is just a big hubbub of news outlets cannibalizing each other's poor journalism and insinuations that the White House is putting together a report, but there's been no official confirmation from anywhere. you would think a press conference from someone would be in order if we thought a foreign power had figured out how to destabilize our voting systems and election news.

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>being Sunni
>2016
What's your excuse?

>>69598707
Me the /pol/ refugee who took 5% at face value

>>69600976
well, yeah but they're not the usa are they
all of them hate the usa, which is the only reason they are friends at all

>>69601018
>If I say something stupid, just pretend I said something less stupid

>>69600959
>But where do you draw the line?

When Christians and Buddhists bring as much (often utterly savage, often very obviously fueled by religious/cultural intolerance)crime and violence into Europe as Muslims have been bringing into it for ages now(but which has also skyrocketed to terrifying levels with the beginning of the whole "refugee" crisis), I'm going to start having as much of a problem with them as I do with Islam.
Until then...

>>69601005
right, i see yeah that is a bit fishy
didn't the fbi get implicated at one point as well? what a clusterfuck

>>69600996
yeah it must be because of all those bombings and invasions that the bible belt experienced in the last 50 years, it couldn't possible be that its a bad society that breeds bad people

>>69600959
>b-but the other guys are bad too!

deflection and distraction are the only weapons in liberals' arsenal when it comes to defending the religion of peace
it would be funny if it wasn't so fucking annoying

>>69601028
and they hate the usa because it meddles in their affairs and has insisted on doing so since after the end of WWII. while Stalin was willing to do socialism in one country and pivot away from open aggression with the US, the US set up a set of global economic institutions and gave the USSR zero credit for winning the war before turning around and starting proxy wars left and right to stop the spread of USSR "ideology." we haven't had a true isolationist in the White House in a century, but i think someone like Trump, as much of a dingus as he is, is not part of the D.C. elite educated cabal that froths at the mouth for Russian blood and espionage. i can see him being a more ruthless leader at home than others, and he's not a good guy by any means, but i'd much rather have a controllable strongman as the figurehead of a largely stable democratic republic to try to broker new friendships and alliances moving into the future instead of continuing this two-faced weird tactical bullshit that US presidents have been doing for decades to fuck people over as we agree to things with them.

>>69600995
>>69600997
Ok, where do you draw then line then? The existence of the caste system in Hinduism has probably led to and continues to lead to the most religious related deaths and oppresion of any religion in history. Where is the line? ten thousand deaths? 50 thousand deaths? you have no idea because you are talking out of your ass. Christianity has killed more people than Islam ever has and so has Hinduism. Buddhism is still a source of violence today. ANyone who says "Le Islam is the worst offender" has been brainwashed by Fox News and is extremely uneducated. Lets just ban all Hindus from our country now too, k?

>>69600366
>this is what mudslimes actually believe

>>69600972
The salafi Saudi regime is backed by the US. The Saudis contribute billions to both major american parties, they also financed the salafi movement which spawned ISIS and al Qaeda. They bankroll the 'moderate' rebels in syria, who often openly brag about ethnically cleansing Christians and Shia. Look at what's happening in Yemen, Saudis are starving and bombing people to death with the help of the US. the Average American's tendency to see all muslims as the same makes him very easy to manipulate. The pentagon, and Saudi/israel just couldnt be happier

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>>69601015
>being muslim
>2016
What's your excuse?

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>>69600930
>one of needless provocation of foreign powers like Russia

As opposed to being one of Putin's puppets?

>a refusal to cooperate with stable powers in the Middle East

You think Trump's going to do any differently? He straight up asked to ban all Muslims from the US.

>so much worse that constantly pushing the US to engage in immoral and opportunist wars in the middle east right?

Two wrongs don't make a right

>now you're just trolling. who gives a fuck

If the President of the United States of America is so thinskinned that he's picking fights with people on twitter, how do you expect him to negotiate with other world leaders? They'll wipe the floor with him. Also, pic related

>do you not know what a cabinet member is? you think its a dictatorship or something and they just snap their fingers and suddenly they control all the laws?

They have a major say in the laws that do get passed. It's equivalent to a radical Islamic preacher being appointed head of the human rights committee in a secular country.

>>69601055
"17 intelligence organizations" according to MSNBC. so far, no more veracity to this story than the 4chan anon who went on /b/ and started talking about Podesta emails being connected to pedophilia. but these publications have the gall to provoke another world power potentially into war with us all to save the reputation of a failed centrist candidate who was not appealing to fucking half the country.

>>69601090
you're not reading my posts at all.

why the fuck would modern europeans and americans care about the caste system in India? and don't even get me started on the idiotic "b-but le crusades!!" arguement. yes I'm totally sure events which no living human being has any even remote personal connection to is TOTALLY relevant.

>tfw Trump U gets sued
>tfw we're all enrolled in Trump U now

>>69601090
who said anyone needs to "draw the line"
all religious violence is bad, no one is fucking arguing that
but what you fail to understand is that Islam is, today, right now, the worst of all of them, so fuck them the most
>the crusades and the caste system mean that we should give muzzies a break
nah

>>69601087
yeah, there could be a bit of a silver lining there, insofar as maybe some of these old inherited dogma can be dismantled, or at least ignored
but - in all honesty it seems like he would be the least likely person in the world to be able to carry it out successfully

but then again considering his attitude to the cia, i guess anything is possible

>>69601093
you have a point for sure, and I'm not trying to deny that the US and western power in general are partially responsible for the clusterfuck in the middle east.

I'm just saying that those things have been a part of their culture for millennia, propagated through Islam, and has nothing to do with modern politics.

WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!?

>>69601145
I want to get of Mr. Trump Wild Ride

>>69601095
liberals are fucking retards. There is zero proof about 'Putin' 'hacking the elections' whatever that means. In the end you are just as bloodthirsty as the right wingers, you worship warmongers like the Clintons or BO and give no shit about slaughtering millions of third worlders. Liberals supported the Iraq war, you know

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>>69601090
>ANyone who says "Le Islam is the worst offender" has been brainwashed by Fox News and is extremely uneducated.
hahahahaha what the fuck

>>69601095
you're responding to two people, just to clarify. i'm the paragraph guy. i'll let green text line break guy reply to you separately.

>As opposed to being one of Putin's puppets?

nice Correct the Record debate line. how did that float with the focus groups in the pre-debate practices? i would love for you to give me even a halfway coherent response to what a "Putin puppet" looks like. given that the guy barely controls the country he runs and is basically allowed to remain president by an oligarchy of Russian oil barons who were re-inserted into power and prominence after the collapse of the USSR, i'm fascinated that this one man has been able to find a New York real estate tycoon that he pushed into the highest office of political power in the world all so that he could secure a $500b oil deal for one of that man's cabinet members that will benefit him personally exactly 0. but yes, try to put a coherent thought together on this topic that doesn't just sound like pizzagate. 'cause that's what this is - leftwing pizzagate, but the risk isn't public panic around a pizza place. it's world war iii.

>You think Trump's going to do any differently? He straight up asked to ban all Muslims from the US.

he has expressed interest in letting Russia take the lead on the Syria situation. he will be the first US president in ages to acknowledge that Bashar al-Assad is the Syrian people's problem and that when we intervene in these situations, whether with good or bad intentions, we make things quantifiably worse. the middle east was objectively more stable and prosperous, if repressive, under Hussein and Gadaffi than it has been under Allahu Akhbar of the Week for the past decade and a half. we're just flexing our dicks the same way we did in Afghanistan after the USSR fucked up there instead of allowing for people who actually have geopolitical interests in the region to figure shit out.

>>69598817
was gonna post this

>>69601141
Yes, perhaps Islam causes the most violence in the world today out of all major religions. But my point is that there is other religious violence happening right now as well so the fact that Muslims specifically are facing the majority of the discrimination in the world today is unfair. The topic of Buddhist violence has not been brought up in political discourse even ONCE, despite a large portion of Buddhist monks being violent towards Christians (i.e. the primary religion of NA and Europe). But only Muslims have been brought up. Does this not seem unfair to you? I would understand your argument if primarily Islam was brought up but also Buddhism, but its not. It's completely one-sided and lacks nuance, and is mostly fueled by a racist hatred.

>>69601095
>Two wrongs don't make a right
...? do you even know what that phrase means? your response doesn't make any sense at all.

>how do you expect him to negotiate with other world leaders?
he is a businessman, you seriously think he can't negotiate? you really think twitter means anything more than getting attention and an old out-of-touch man trying to generate publicity on social media?

>They have a major say in the laws that do get passed. It's equivalent to a radical Islamic preacher being appointed head of the human rights committee in a secular country.
well, that settles it. you have no idea how the united states government works. thanks for your worthless input. pity you're allowed to vote.

>>69601267
> (i.e. the primary religion of NA and Europe)
>NA
If by that you mean North America, have I got news for you regarding the rest of the continent

>>69601267
holy shit.

you're either trolling me or just responding without reading one word of my posts.

>>69601167
A lot of what you think is the inherent eternal evil of le Mohametan is actually pretty recent. The US and Israel undermined all the middle east's attempts at sovereignty. Salafism actually dates back to the 2nd half of the 20th century, and has been backed by US and Saudi every step of the way. Christian palestinians, like my mother's family also got ethnically cleansed and driven out of their homes by the zionists. What you want is for us to accept we are inferior to you 'rational' 'freedom loving' burgers and your 'muh enlightened librul values' and deserving of being bombed and enslaved for all eternity. fuck you

>>69601290
I'm Canadian there's no need

>>69601295
maybe it's a bot

>>69598545
>I'm a Muslim

Stopped reading right there.

>>69601267
It's almost like people scared about themselves or their loved ones getting robbed or raped or killed by Muslims are going to have stronger feelings about Muslims and Islam than they do about Buddhism or orthodox Christianity or some other religion.
Wow, what a shocking realization.

>>69601267
correct me if I'm wrong but here are some assumptions I'm operating on

>buddhist violence is not violence for the sake of buddhism, it's violence for the sake of small local political conflicts (unlike Islam which is large, organized, international, and condoned and encouraged in their holy book)
>unlike Islam, most buddhists don't support the buddhist violence of buddhists several countries away
>most of all buddhists are not radical, unlike most of all muslims (see the Ben Shapiro video posted >>69600547)

>>69601204
"Guys, maybe if I make Putin seem weak, it'll deflect from the fact that our new POTUS is a puppet of his."

Also,

>he has expressed interest in letting Russia take the lead on the Syria situation

Rather then telling them to stop bombing the fuck out of the country? And then you guys have the nerve to complain about refugees.

>the middle east was objectively more stable and prosperous, if repressive, under Hussein and Gadaffi than it has been under Allahu Akhbar of the Week for the past decade and a half. we're just flexing our dicks the same way we did in Afghanistan after the USSR fucked up there

I agree with this.

>>69601295
Nice argument. I'll take that as a concession. go back to furiously watching Sargon of Akkad and try harder next time

>>69601030
face value /pol/ wanderer

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None of you will gain anything from this discussion. None of you will change your minds. No conflict, international or otherwise, will be resolved here, no crisis resolved now, no result of any kind achieved by the words you're all spamming against eachother as if you were trying to kill wi-fi waves.

You're all deluded and pathetic. Dunning–Kruger 101.

>>69601301
>What you want is for us to accept we are inferior to you 'rational' 'freedom loving' burgers and your 'muh enlightened librul values' and deserving of being bombed and enslaved for all eternity. fuck you

so basically you're the middle eastern equivalent of a conservative pol-tard? damn, here I was thinking you were actually someone worth arguing with. go back to your submissive woman and sharia law fantasies, achmed

Please don't meme Muslimgauze to death.

>>69601321
>Nice argument.
you can't just say "Nice argument" when someone says you were arguing about the wrong thing in the first place idiot

>>69601321
0/10

>>69601321
i love how you keep ignoring almost all of the replies to your posts aside from the ones which it is the easiest for you to deliberately misread and make deliberately deflecting and daft replies too

it's fucking pathetic to me that you care more about "owning" someone on 4chan than you do about the heinous shit happening in your own backyard

>>69601204
Trump is surrounded by defence shills and hawks obsessed with Iran (good boys who did nothing wrong). The russians don't actually care much for trump. Cold War pt.II was going to happen anyways, Trump lacks any actual ideology and is obviously just going to do what the defence shill want him to. Which is, take One step closer to the abyss.

>>69601330
goddamn this, do yall think you're in some sort of international conference/negotiation table or something? you're NOT going to figure this shit out if your lives depende on it, so why the fuck bother

>>69601317
i'm not the "you guys" you think you're talking to. i'm a left-wing armchair foreign policy analyst who has closely followed these issues for over a decade. i voted enthusiastically for BO in 08 and 12 and did not vote in 16. i am cautiously optimistic that Trump has a better vision of foreign policy than someone who is going to continue the past 25 years of habitual US humiliation of an ex-superpower. if you don't understand the history of the fall of the Soviet Union and what the Russian people have been through since then at the hands of Americans, stop talking on this subject. you're clearly an ignorant millennial if you're (1) not nuanced about Clinton and (2) on fucking /mu/, which it just occurred to me is where i'm thinking i'm going to have a productive conversation about Trump's realist foreign policy positions.

again, if you can give me an iota of a narrative of what being a Putin puppet means, go for it.

and there's no way you can agree with my last statement and think the US should intervene to tell Russia to stop supporting the SYRIAN GOVERNMENT in retaking territory taken from them by random rebel groups. do you know who these rebel groups in Aleppo are that have decided to randomly topple the government? they're opportunist Islamists similar to those who filled the Gadaffi power vacuum in Libya. they are not the Rebel Alliance or something. there is no reason BO should have given them weapons to do this shit in the first place. he should have let Assad deal with ISIS and allied with him in the short term to stamp them out instead of trying to play multiple angles like every other two-faced evil president in the past century.

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>>69601330
>>69601369
yeah no shit

but it's fun to shit on other people's beliefs, especially if you "win"

>>69601361
>obsessed with Iran
what does this phrase mean? like you think he is surrounded by generals who want to bomb Iran? even fucking Mad Dog Mattis has come out in support of the nuclear agreement, even if he thinks it was a very temporary fix. no one's going to start a war with Iran on the left or right in this country. there's a certain centrist woman who was about to start a war in Ukraine, though.

>>69601369
>>69601330
>don't talk about important issues because it wont make a difference anyway
>just be apathetic and watch your memes like a good boy as corrupt politicians and ruthless corporations gain more and more control over you and the world

millennial logic

>>69598545
>says is a muslim
>is on 4 chan

well... you have courage, or are lying

>>69601332
I'm actually a far leftist. You look at what's happening in West Kurdistan, they are building a society far more advanced than any in the west in terms of human rights and democracy. The West's attempts to 'civilise' the middle east have always been an hypocritical cover for plunder and brutality. You can't honestly look at what happened in Iraq and think it was good. The US has been promoting sectarian and ethnic warfare in MENA for decades. You don't know shit and your irrational ressentment of the Muslims makes you easy target for the people in power who want to use you for their own ends.

>>69601410
>>just be apathetic and watch your memes like a good boy as corrupt politicians and ruthless corporations gain more and more control over you and the world
this is exactly what you're doing right now fatass

>>69601410
You dim, fucksucking, housecat ratdick. My point is that you're all wasting time on the internet, babbling on and on in this thread here on this here board, which is absolutely worthless. What, do you think political discussion should only happen on the internet? And that realising that this is a worthless waste of time is "apathetic"? And that there are no better platforms to have such discussions? Because if so then you're exactly the kind of person you're trying to make me look like. Armchair intellectual, fucking Internet Savant saviour of the digital world. Go smoke a cock, will you.
>>69601399
>fun
...where??

>>69601399
>win

all I see ITT is losers

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>>69601403
General Flynn. The liberal obsession with Russian influence is a red herring cause Flynn is no friend of Putin either.
>Flynn divides the world into two sets of enemies. First, there are the radical Islamists, whom he sees as America’s principal foes. Then there is a constellation of hostile anti-democratic regimes that he calls “the alliance” that includes both Islamists and non-Islamists that collaborate against the West because we’re their common enemy. The alliance includes Russia, Syria, North Korea, China, Iran, Cuba, Bolivia, Venezuela and Nicaragua.

>Flynn puts Vladimir Putin and his Syrian client Bashar al-Assad squarely in the hostiles camp. There’s no point wasting much angst on Nicaragua and Bolivia right now, but he’s quite right to declare the Russian and Syrian governments enemies of the United States. Assad is the biggest state sponsor of international terrorism in the entire Arab world, and he’s Iran’s staunchest Arab ally. And since Iran is the biggest state sponsor of terrorism in the entire world, that makes Moscow-Tehran-Damascus axis the greatest state-level geopolitical threat to the West.

This is fucking insane, notice no mention of Saudi, emphasis on Syria, Russia and Iran rather than on ISIS. You are getting played big time man

>>69601472
>...where??
here

>>69601441
>look at what's happening in West Kurdistan, they are building a society far more advanced than any in the west in terms of human rights and democracy
LMAO


>if you dont support muslims, that means you must support le evil imperialist USA
nice false dichotomy faggot

>>69599572
This x1000

wiccans are scrawny nerds who got bullied by christian jocks in high school

>>69601524
>LMAO
it's tru
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rojava

it's not about 'supporting muslims', 'muslims' are not an homogeneous group retard. I support human rights and self determination, and obviously you don't

>>69598825
Most terrorists aren't imams though, what are you talking about?

>>69601636
>I support human rights and self determination
incompatible with islam, semitic religions in general

>>69599518
>>69599579
Sluts truly are the great equalizer

posting in containment thread

>>69598982
Why the fuck do shitty deleted posts like this still show up in appchan? If i wanted to see retards vomit links to respectable organizations such as the (UKIP financing) daily express (part of the same group as the magazine 'asian babes') i'd go to /pol/

>>69601758
>daily express (part of the same group as the magazine 'asian babes')
lmao is this true
funniest thing i read today

>>69601773
Bloke that owns it has been a major porn baron since the 80s, you don't think that shit daily mail ripoff actually turns a profit do you?
He owns all those channels at the tail end of sky that you used to watch the 10 min previews on for a quick pubescent pre-broadband fap.

>>69601758
>2016
>trusting the lamestream white genocide cuck media

>>69601835
the express is owned by richard desmond, a ukranian jew
you're falling directly into their trap again
did you ever consider we should ally with muslims to remove the greater evil?

>>69601875
he only bought it in 2000 though

its weird seeing a muslim in 4chan without a thousand trump reaction images, gore and a wyatt mann cartoons

>>69598817
>Jew
>Race

>>69601955
Mods removed a few posts from the thread.

>>69601758
Sweden's no-go zones and the Ostersund Earth Hour debacle have both been extensively reported on though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCsEqKjP9p0

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2616/after-wave-of-sexual-assaults-%C3%96stersund-will-be-kept-lit-during-earth-hour.html

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>>69601914
Does that matter? The 'rave music will kill literally every child on the planet' line they were toeing during the pre-desmond era was harmless and hilarious.
Now they're just a mouthpiece for an amoral pervert and his chums.
Also if desmond isn't part of the big pedo-scandal i'll eat literally every hat i own.
Also shit this cartoon was from the sun not the express but fuck it it's funny so i'm posting it.

>>69601969
it's censorship. Libshits fear the truth like cockroaches fear the light. And people think the alt right isn't the New Punk Rock ha! we are the underdogs lobbing memes against the Marxist White Genocide Machine. Join the Resistance! Hail Victory!

>>69602002
i don't see porn publication as immoral, but then i'm not religious at all

>>69601875
How about we remove both?

>https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7470/germany-migrants-crime
>https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8663/germany-migrants-rape
>https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9229/germany-lawlessness
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/07/10/leaked-document-says-2000-men-allegedly-assaulted-1200-german-women-on-new-years-eve/
>https://sputniknews.com/art_living/201609121045224004-sweden-police-problems/
>http://newobserveronline.com/berlin-invader-crime-halts-dhl-deliveries/
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36713031/more-than-40-sex-assaults-reported-at-two-swedish-festivals
>https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9431/germany-islam-october
>http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2323/europe-on-the-verge-of-civil-war-swiss-army-chief-s-urgent-warning.html

>>69602029
I said amoral. Nothing about publishing porn is immoral. Rubbing shoulders with the elite, running a newspaper with a literal crusader on it, claiming to fight for traditional values while publishing asian porn and claiming to be against the very elite you supply hookers for. That's amoral.
>>69602055
kek he removed the express link
next time remove the gatestone ones
>>69602054
fighting a war on two fronts is never a good idea, why do nazis always try it?

>>69598957
you're not a statistician are you

>>69602000
b-but mentioning fake news is the ultimate way to defeat those bigoted rethugliKKKans!

>>69602119
right, you did. my mistake
yeah he is still a cunt, i get you

>>69602119
The Gatestone articles all provide mainstream news sources for the information laid out in them.
The articles are general summaries, they're not news in themselves.
Nice work being deliberately daft though. I wonder if you're still gonna manage to look the other way when your neighbourhood turns into an apocalyptic shithole for the sake of tolerance and diversity.

>>69602119
You're supposed to remove the hook-nosed threat first, then the goat lovers will follow.

>>69598545
>I'm a Muslim
stopped reading there

>>69602179
I'm not native to the country i live in and i probably do more damage to this neighbourhood than any of the turks or morokkis around here but whatever.
Sorry i'm not going to read anything on a website that lets that Andre Rieu loving literal cocksucker Wilders speak.
>>69602200
That's the plan.
I mean ideally no one would have to get genocided and people would be capable of abandoning their deeply held beliefs but we all know that won't work.

>>69601333
too late, anon. too late

>>69602294
>I'm not native to the country i live in and i probably do more damage to this neighbourhood than any of the turks or morokkis around here but whatever.
Sorry i'm not going to read anything on a website that lets that Andre Rieu loving literal cocksucker Wilders speak.

ok

>>69602294
>I'm not native to the country i live in and i probably do more damage to this neighbourhood than any of the turks or morokkis around here but whatever.
>Sorry i'm not going to read anything on a website that lets that Andre Rieu loving literal cocksucker Wilders speak.

I'm shrugging in real life.

>>69602337
>>69602359
idgi but ok
That's so 'music board' where opinions on muslims are more common than opinions on the world's most famous and least talented violinist.

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>>69602337
>Geert Wilders

btw, he's actually half azn, but he bleaches his hair to look more aryan

>>69602294
>ideally no one would have to get genocided and people would be capable of abandoning their deeply held beliefs
>it would be an ideal scenario if humans didn't act like humans

>>69602392
You came to a thread where the purpose of the OP was race-baiting (even though the pork-loving ideology he hides behind does not qualify as a race but whatever)

>>69602392
>That's so 'music board' where opinions on muslims are more common than opinions on the world's most famous and least talented violinist.

Ah, the cultured man's instrument.
Bit outta my intellectual reach desu mate, I still go down to the pub on the weekends and get shitfacted and sing along to Wonderwall!

>>69602055
http://www.dw.com/en/report-refugees-have-not-increased-crime-rate-in-germany/a-18848890

btfo

>>69602418
He's one hot beast nonetheless!

>>69602459
>Date 13.11.2015

Bit slow on the uptake, innit?
Not too eager to accept any "official reports" considering that the reports on the Cologne rapes were actively suppressed and the whole thing would have been covered up had it not been for a shitload of personal testimonials.

Also,

>dw

Lel.

>>69602418
What the fuck am I looking at
also that makes sense, i always assumed he was a molluc or something from that curly-ass hair that he desperately strains to look like the traditional dutch slick-back.
>>69602448
bruv wonderwall is literally more patrician than andre
andre is music for fat shirtless blokes covered in stale beer and blood to listen to after football matches
like you're not proving anything by typing that lol except that you're way outta touch with the culture you think you're from
next time yer dahn the working mans social club pop the telly on sky arts

>>69602517
>Not too eager to accept any "official reports"

Numbers don't lie, anon. Feels over reals, amirite? :^)

>>69602533
YOU'RE NO WORKING CLASSMAN, BRUV! YOU AIN'T NO WORKING CLASSMAN!

>>69602538
>Numbers don't lie, anon.

They sure don't. Over 50 Swedish no-go zones and counting!

>Feels over reals, amirite?

Always.

>>69602628
>Over 50 Swedish no-go zones and counting!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/nogozones.asp

btfo again. :^)

>>69602670
>snopes is a legitimate source
hah

>>69602628
I'm not working class, i'm like way up at the top of middle class, although my shabby appearance helps me pass in lower class establishments.
As to your next point just like lol
lol ok
ok lol
go find a
go find a no go zone
they in your neighbourhood right bruv
or should i say estate?
I used to live in tower hamlets and that place is like 90% muslim but they had absolutely no problem with a long haired anime fag being haram as fuck around them.

>>69602714
>facts aren't a legitimate source

Boy, this mayonnaise sure is spicy.

>>69602670
>calls out someone on their sources
>posts fucking snopes

not even that guy but you're a fucking idiot lmao

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>>69602763
see >>69602760

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>>69602760
>>69602760
DO YOUR RESEARCH FAG

also facts don't matter anymore, just how emotional you can be while shouting, squinting, pursing your lips and making the OK sign with your fingers

./السلام عليكم /مو

dude white genocide stormfront trump maga /r/theredpill bootstraps lmao