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second for lyrical genius

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Third for definitive AOTY whether you care to admit it or not

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>>69512303
HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED RIFFS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.

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>>69512328
"no"

>>69512390
Old thrash bands still making music after 1992 is embarrassing.
>lol hey guys here's Persecution Mania again but with EVEN MORE OVERPRODUCTION THIS TIME!!!1

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>>69512364
Can't you understand Everything I do doesn't stem from you It doesn't have a fucking thing to do with you I just want to die Throw it all away Never have to feel again the way you make me Lose my fuckin' mind all the fuckin' time Can't control the violence that's spewing from me Take It

>>69512410
I was about to give a nice reply but then I remembered you're a nigger metal memer

>>69512598
>such level of butthurt
Keep that reply, I'm sure I don't need it.

haven't been keeping up with metal too much this year, what're the top albums?

>>69512733
just this
>>69512328

>>69512733
the Horseburner, Bossk and Cobalt for me

>>69512752
>>69512390

>>69512759
>Bossk
do they sound exactly the same as they did when they disbanded like ten years ago

>>69512770
>>69512410

>>69512796
>>69512598

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Are Inquisition and Immortal The only two good black metal bands ever? Maybe Emperor can be the runner up. Actual instrumental skill, semi respectable production, good riifs, and real music skill besides "mu atmosphere" autism.

>>69512733
Vektor- Terminal Redux
Blood Incantation- Starspawn
Moonsorrow- Jumalten aika
Deathspell Omega- Synarchy of Molten Bones

>>69512777
similar, yeah

>>69512867
This desu

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>>69512250
Apologize

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>>69512733
Wouldn't call it top tier but you'd be surprised to hear that pic related is actually alright

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>>69512733

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slam is cool right

Waddup /metal/, just received my cassette I ordered on discogs. It's an album from a finnish solo project. There was a letter given on my door saying that the police would look at the lyrics and that basically the band received complains about porn or violence or some shit. ( I tried traducting from Italian cause I ordered this tape from Italy and I'm canadian ) I looked up and I can't find any lyrics of the album. It's a normal underground band and I didn't find any informations about crimes or whatever.
The band is Rautavaris and the album is Suden Lapset. Can anyone help?

>>69512968
that's awful man

>>69513239
Well yeah, I don't why he wanted to continue what he and Till did in Lindemann. They could have just left doing that in that album and the upcoming ones, Pain was great, it didn't need a change.

>>69513046
It would be listenable without the meme snare

>>69512826
>are 2 entry level artists the only good bands in an entire genre

No

What's the power metal AOTY?

>>69513330
Name me ONE other bm band that isnt an atmomeme and has any sort of musical skill. Ill be waiting

>>69513354
this
https://youtu.be/EwNcTwlfX0o

>>69513446
mayhem
ascension
thorns
marduk
the non atmo blut aus nord albums
aosoth
baptism

>>69513543
That album came out in2015

>>69513553
new Baptism was incredibly meh, am i missing something

>>69513581
I liked it quite a bit. maybe give it another listen

>>69513556
shit, where did the time go?

>>69513581
Listen to it louder.

>>69513601
Roman Acupuncture is a demo EP

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>>69513446
:^)

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>>69513553
>mayhem
>good
Top Cuck

>Ascension
Shit production that turns into mayhem levels of kiddie riffs. Thrash vocals thrown on but they aren't even good so they push the vocals back in the mixing. Also their second album is complete garbage, even if you somehow liked their first thats all they have.

>Thorns
Buzum clone, muh atmo

>Marduk
The nickleback of black metal but less popular.

>blut aus nord
Just a Bathory/Immortal clone, who both did it better than Blut

>Aosoth
Generic black metal that people say they like but /mu/ is full of hipsters who think lesser known = better

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>>69513966
That album cover looks GOAT with the Chinese wraparound thing the label put on it.

(not my pic, taken from NWN!)

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>>69513354
Does it even need to be asked?

>>69513983
i expected you to reply like this no matter what bands were posted. you should probably stick with melodeath and slam

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>>69514109
Ill stay in my thrash, viking, and nwobhm hole thanks. Black metal just doesnt have good

R I F F S
I
F
F
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>>69514149
lmao jesus you're embarassing

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>>69514194
No u

>>69514149
This song has two excellent riffs that first appear at the beginning and at 7:26 (second one is thrashy), respectively, plus lots of other good "compositional" riffs in between.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfizEqaqjag

>>69514374
Bretty good from what I listened too, thanks for the rec famalam. 7:26 gave me some real celtic frost vibes who I love. Just like Necromantia, false seems to mix trad metal riffage with black metal. Good stuff for sure

>>69512303
dude's skull looks like it's from an early 2000's video game with low poly count.

>Don't really like black metal
>Want to sound informed when I make fun of it on the internet, so I check out some of the "classics"
>start with Burzum s/t
>End up enjoying it

Varg if you're reading this, fuck you. You're a piece of shit you fucking hear me?

>>69514374
This is just power metal with fuzzy guitars.

>>69514660
power metal is the best kind of metal, so it works

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What's /mu/'s opinion on Celtic Frost??

>>69514496
Glad you liked it. Great band. Put on a killer live show too.

>>69514674
I need somebody to rec me good power metal. It's a genre I haven't really looked at since I was briefly listening to Dragonforce and Kamelot back in like 2005 or something. I know Blind Guardian is supposed to be good, anything else?

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>>69514705
This isn't purely power metal, but I've been digging it recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uO_kRilcX0

>>69514705
Twilight Force
Gloryhammer

>>69514681

Honestly. Completely over rated and Tom G Warrior is quite possibly the most pretentious and annoying cunt alive and I honestly wish I'd just listened to them up to To Mega Therion then stopped and never learnt anything about them.

>>69514805
So you like their early stuff?

>>69514705
Here ya go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm8JvqFK_3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KPOoGgPFBg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAv-7RNnBvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geR079TNr-Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIG5v003Li4

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>>69514742
>>69514906
thanks, lads

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I love the songwriting on this album, but can't stand the production at all. Kicks sound like somebody's slapping two pieces of wood together, and the distortion makes the low notes on the guitar sound muddy and like the strings are loose.

>>69514815

Thanks for the (You) cunt.

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>>69512826
Pic related has to be on that list too.

If you can start to look past 'bad' production to the use of production toward a unified goal with the music then you'll start to understand a lot more (good) black metal. Try early Graveland, Varathron, the first Setherial album and the first few Samael albums.

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>>69514705

classical anon from last thread, didn't get chance to reply before sage

anyways, Batushka and Negura Bunget seem cool. Thanks for the suggestions.

In the interest of cultural exchange, have vivaldi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRxofEmo3HA

Winter and Summer are probably the most metal-ish.

>>69515463
Hey it's that song from the Victorian period movies.

>>69515463
Toccata and Fugue in D Minor the most metal classical music.

What is some more black metal worth checking out if I like Mgla, Batushka, Wittr, Sargeist and Woods of Desolation?

>>69512250
He always reminded me of Richard stallman

>>69515936
For Mgla check Uada. For the others Trna, Falls Of Rauros, Germ, honestly most Atmospheric Black Metal or Blackgaze could fit.

>>69515936
Misþyrming

>>69515936
Mutilation Rites

>tfw cultural marxism everywhere
music for this feel?

/metal/, teach me the best way to like Kreator
I'm a metal newfag, heard their new song as well as Phantom Antichrist and i'm pretty much sold on them
best album/worst album? listening order?

When will the "Mayhem is bad" meme stop ?

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I just realised Be'lakor is meloshit, atmoshit and proge at the same time

>>69515936
Horna

>>69516537
When will the black metal is good meme stop

>>69516528
Pleasure to kill is my personal fav

If you like Kreator check out Sodom as well they're great

>>69517044
Man, melodeath had the potential of being such a cool genre. If only 90% of the bands playing it didn't outright copy At The Gates' riffs and throw in edgy metalcore vocals in the mix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0H8AUAuNA

>>69517511
Belakor copies Dark Tranquillity instead of At the Gates though

>>69517520
yeah, but Be'Lakor is a good band

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Have any of you ever attempted to get younger relatives into some new music? My 13 year old nephew is spending Christmas Day with us and as far as I know he has relatively little experience with metal or music in general. Might show him pic related to get started

nepalese slam

I've gotten bored of my Amon Amarth, Ensiferum and Equilibrium and I pose a question to you, /mu/. Does asian metal exist? Like China, Japan, Korea, etc?

>>69514681
don't like them, no matter how influential shit is still shit.

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>>69517815
Take this chart

Never post here again with your shit taste baka

>>69517869
Okay but can you give me something like Amon Amarth, Ensiferum and Equilibrium?

>>69517884
Blood Stain Child and Shadow

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>>69517884
>bored of bands
>asks for things that sound like them

Literally why

That said mongolian folk metal probably

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRQpFDSDL4

>>69517901
Thanks but do you have asian folk metal that sounds more western?

>>69517954
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=finnish+folk+metal

>>69517954
no
fuck off now

>>69517681
>little experience in heavy metal
>oh i know ill show him one of the fastest and thrashiest judas priest albums to start him off

british steel is a great album if you still insist on judas priest

it has all the normie hits and all the things they like while still retaining heavy metal elements

or screaming for vengenace
or sad wings of destiny if he doesnt mind long songs

>>69518174
Painkiller is the first JP album I heard because I thought it's considered their best

>>69518221
but the early judas priest is so much better for beginners or veterans

listen to to stained class or sin after sin i am sure you will like them more than painkiller

>>69514995
faggot, the production on MF is perfect for the ugly, slow death metal that Autopsy plays

post patrician bass drops:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCWGVKGzsuQ
https://youtu.be/uSB6lqgM4wY?t=2m58s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFt56Qlt52M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkxMBeg4Ro

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hello /metal/
do you guys have some albums that sounds exactly (or almost) like this one please ?

>>69518282
The patricianest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW_y31bRW3M

>>69518253
>ugly, slow death metal
it's called sludge metal

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>>69518399
This is the stupidest thing I've read on /metal/ in ages, congratulations.
Death Doom and Sludge metal are completely different things.
One is death metal slowed down to doom metal's pace and one is doom metal with hardcore punk tendencies.

Give me some metal that plays with volume increasing and decreasing in a grunge-y way

>>69518449
i didn't think it was intentionally stupid,maybe just a misunderstanding.

Quality of life in /metal/ would probably be a lot higher if we didn't feel the need to bitch over sub-genre classifications all the fucking time.

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>>69518221
how can painkiller be Judas Priests best album when it's this.

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>>69518498
Agreed. Pic related's my favourite speed metal album.

Doobie metal

>>69518499
AOTY 1982

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>>69518499
Seems you have posted the wrong image.

>>69518379
it's been so long since /metal/ demonstrated its saiya style

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>>69518542
overrated

>>69518379
sick

>>69518552
Of all judas priest albums to say the're overrated, you picked stained class

wew lad

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>>69518499
>>69518542
Step aside, lads

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Haaaaaaaaay.

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>>69518569
I stand by it, don't think it's as good.
I Prefer Rock n Roller over it

>>69518499
>>69518542
>>69518552
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>>69518610
Fags.

>>69518621
All me

>>69518576
But the last 3 songs on Defenders are garbage.

MANY MANY YEARS AGO
ON A DISTANT SHORE

>>69518715
HOW DOES A CHILD GET HIMSELF OUT OF HARMS WAY

Challenge for anyone interested:
Post your metal AOTY from every year up to the present 2016
Don't have to start at 1970... skip to 1980 if you want. Alternatively concentrate on a particular decade

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>>69517869
updated this chart for you

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>>69513294
>meme snare
get fucked pleb

>>69513046

I haven't really listened to metal for a long time but I thought I'd give Metallica a go. I've listened to all of their albums in order this week (except the new one, should I?) and is it just me or are they like a parody of Metal bands, but serious?

By that I mean they do everything you'd expect a metal band to do, but to the extreme. The vocals are exaggerated, the solos are the pinnacle of guitar-wank, the drumming is to the extreme... You get my point.

I think they're fun, but they're almost like Spinal Tap without awareness.

>>69519246
I agree 100%

>>69515463
I'd like to see if I can take the challenge of giving you proper recs.

Since you're a /classical/ fag, do you have a favourite period? Favourite composers? Favourite compositions, at least?

Did you listen to Deathspell Omega (2005-2016) yet?

>>69519246
> is it just me or are they like a parody of Metal bands, but serious?
Only from the 90s onwards. Also if you went through the pains of listening to St Anger and Death Magnetic you've no excuse not to listen to Hardwired. Even though it's shit, it's less shit than the aforementioned.

>>69518507
That's not speed metal, dude, that's Funeralesque AtmoThrash w/Doomgrind influences.

>>69519279
St Anger was a painful experience (it's not new or original to criticise that snare, but my god...), but I quite like Death Magnetic. Is it really not that well liked among metal fans? It's a bit exhausting because every song seems so full on, but I wouldn't call it a bad album.

I'll listen to Hardwired tomorrow I think.

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>>69512250
Fenriz's commentary is comfy, as is the whole album.

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>>69512733
Forn is quite solid.

>>69519301
Oh my fucking god, stop bitching about sub-genre classifications. It's speed metal, deal with it.

>>69515936
Satanic Warmaster, Horna, Behexen, Mütiilation post-2000, early (i.e. shitty) Deathspell Omega, Taake's first three albums, 1349's first three albums also, Tsjuder, early Gorgoroth, the list goes on

>>69519119
Way better, thanks.

>>69519304
>Is it really not that well liked among metal fans?
It's just... boring. Bland. Soulless. Zero developement or innovation and dumbed down by alt-rock influences (which could have been executed in an interesting way but they utterly failed to do so).

If it wasn't for the crispy XXIth century production, it would already be out of date and a cliché in the late 80s/early 90s.

>>69514149
What's Transilvanian Hunger?

>>69514149
stop using my waifu to shitpost you faggot
black metal riffs are krieg as fuck

>>69519364
>black metal
>riffs

>>69519351
I suppose that's true. I think maybe that's where my "parody of itself" opinion came from. It's almost as though they've Flanderised themselves.

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>>69519322
No, it's Grindmospheric Speed Sludge with a hint of NWOBHM-esque Drone.

>>69519354
More importantly, what's 90% of the Second Wave?

>>69519369
yes
black metal riffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qkXDUKCq3c

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>>69515936

>>69519379
I really love pic related, it's my favorite by Ulver.

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All memes and shitposting aside this is my favourite BM riff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl1KHV8NUwA

>>69519372
> It's almost as though they've Flanderised themselves.
Sadly that's very common amongst pioneering bands of the late 70s and early 80s. Just look at bands like Motörhead and Venom. Three, maybe four seminal albums and then the same album re-recorded for the next 30 years with slight variations/improvements

>>69519395
I have a hard time choosing between their debut and Nattens because each appears to me as the most elevated example of their respective and mutually exclusive realm (as the /metal/ meemers would say, atmoshit vs riffs)
in production.

>>69518362
Please help guys, I don't know shit about metal

>>69519414
I dislike it almost entirely, but you should check out the USBM scene. If you like that album then Xasthur, Agalloch and Judas Iscariot should probably be your next stop. Pretty much in that order.

Post covers that are better than the original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quPliK3eAy4

If you listen to metal and are over the age of 19 then you are a manchild

>>69519424
It's good, but the solo is weaker and it still doesn't beat the original.

Obituary's CF cover is goat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUMGUfuKP60

>>69519424
This is the single best Burzum cover anyone has ever recorded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Fccf6ebnM
>>69519429
We're posting on 4chan. We are all manchildren anyway, regardless of our musical taste or preferred board.

>>69519420
Thanks man

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>>69519424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvXaLZZ6M3M

>>69519424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XknSZNYTkkQ

>>69519438
They finally released an album in 2013 and I still haven't been able to find a link. I really, really hope the rest of the album is in a similar style.

>>69519424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9XiD_2K7-Q

name a better cover, i'm waiting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNvRMBqqvrs

Remember when Fear Factory and Paradise Lost were the biggest meme bands here?

>>69519480
so randumb xD

upvoted my friend

>>69519424

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0WAvIcg4MY

slower, with fuzz, and it's fucking Fu Manchu

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>>69519480

>>69519424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Uv0n2qoF8

>>69519456
>>69519480
Jesus I don't know which is worse

>>69519481
>Paradise Lost
...not really. When was this?
>>69519461
Nigga ur in luck (256kbps though)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/b09yma4o2sc2y8p/Zergeyth+-+Pajot+Kezas+Kodoilas+%5B2013%5D.rar

>>69519480
MPE got some sick covers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M2NTwfO_w4
They also covered Backstreet Boys and Mamas and Papas, but those covers were taken down from YouTube

>>69519424
THE ACE OF SPADESARU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzCp0ouqR00

>>69518362

Literally unique sounding. The mixture of the sound of the music and Wrest's production is lightning in a bottle.

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>>69519504
>When was this?

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>>69519480
I got you mate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYc2284BnP0

>>69519424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtUDKKC7n8E

>>69519424
Hey guys remember when some random russian neonazi band traveled to the future and stole Vikernes' idea of making a metal Dauði Baldrs (the song, not the album)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqyBqkMkvS0

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>>69519541

>>69519541
>genre: Power A Cappella
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Van_Canto/87185

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>>69519579
>genre: Power A Cappella

>>69519536
>hahaha what a newfag I feel so superior my life is complete *le smug face*

Ok, my man

>>69519579
>>69519596
Every single time I start to think europower isn't as bad as /metal/ makes it out to be, garbage like this comes up.
What the fuck.

>>69519541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DC5tNFlQMs

>>69519536
The extra tumblr gif makes it sophisticated

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>>69519424
https://youtu.be/FaiXklUnmNM
>>69519527
>mfw

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>>69519620
Right, because that shit video/band is a representative of euro power, right, isn't that righ

>>69519628
>swedes butchering japanese
wew

>>69519643
europower is absolutely great. that one helloween album, early blind guardian, scanner, the list can go on and on....

>>69519424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

>>69519643
Walls of Jericho isn't representative of euro power either. Walls of Jericho was much more influencial to the budding late 80s and 90s japanese scene, Europower took after Keeper of the Seven Keys.

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>>69519669
No.

>>69519541
>>69519480

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiESgYr35gA

>>69519669
>147 913 304 views
>original has 94 671 549

Kill me

>>69519708
>tfw too intelligent to be one of the viewers

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>>69519747

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>>69519664
>europower is absolutely great. that one helloween album, early blind guardian, scanner, the list can go on and on....

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Why do you hate hair metal

>>69519759
>list can go on and on
Of course it's sarcasm you literal newfriend.
>not sure if x meme
go away

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>>69519767

>>69519669
The fact that this song is on the same album always makes me kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jct3HKRYU2A

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>>69519759

>>69519680
It was a placeholder more than a precise example.
>>69519767
Hair gets in the way.
>>69519770
>"newfriend"
>"list goes on"
>not liking euro power

OKEY DOKEY AMIGO

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>>69519767
i don't

>>69519788
>>69519770
Here's your (You), samefag.

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>>69519792
Of course I don't like euro power, I like my power metal being powerful, not flowerful.

I can count every great euro power band on one hand, and every good euro power band on two hands.

1200000 bad europower metal bands

>>69519792
>it was a placeholder more than a precise example
nice backpeddaling
you specifically implied walls of jericho was representative when its anything but.
defend this garbage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhKXPWtGJ38

>>69519821
>>69519770
>>69519788
Whatever you say weeaboo

>>69519821
>I can count every great euro power band on one hand, and every good euro power band on two hands.
As opposed to USPM where you only need one hand that has been mangled in a factory accident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUkksaWKFB4

Spreading is their best album.

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https://soundcloud.com/lolwut/sets/i-3-blast-beats

>I <3 blast beats

>>69519527
lmaooooo

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>>69519836
>weeaboo
But I didn't post anything remotely Japanese.

>>69519834
It's not backpeddaling, you complete arse bandit. It's their debut album: Posted as shorthand for the whole band. Do you know what a synecdoque is? Are you really that ridiculously autist that you can't work with words and meanings that aren't immediately and irrevocably literal? Context and reading comprehension mean such a taxing thing to you? Jesus fuck, man. I wish you the best of luck in this crazy world.

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How to into black metal for complete beginner?

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What riffs make you go savage?
I just can't sit still whenever I hear 7:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtqktjjTVu8

>>69519886
neck thyself

>>69519886
don't bother it's a waste of time

>>69519882
>posted as a shorthand for the whole band
do you realize how dumb you sound? walls of jericho is nothing like the rest of helloween's discography.
>posts walls of jericho, which has more resemblance with the american and japanese power metal scenes than the rest of their discog
>get called out
>w-well I implied the rest of the band's discography too

that's not how it works. you got called out and you backpedaled, and the fact that you're now trying to say an album that's nothing like their other albums is representative of the whole band, or even subgenre is hilarious.

>>69519892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jct3HKRYU2A

>>69519892
Transilvanian Hunger's main riff makes me go apeshit.

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>>69519893
>>69519911
Why? The very little I've listened to I quite liked

>>69519886
Don't be lazy and use google. Look up the essentials wiki, read a bit on the genre, go chronologycally most of the time, you can't go wrong.

Unless it turns out that you don't like the style, in which case you can't not go wrong.

>>69519892
https://youtu.be/vv2tdfaATAw?t=4m

>>69519480
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUp2MRomzn4

>>69519886
Start with Sunbather

>>69519886
https://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=alltime&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=black+metal&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=

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post some of these

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>>69519882
Tell me how this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOHEe2txc04

Is shorthand for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjV8SHjHvHk

Please.

djent

>>69519438
>the single best Burzum cover anyone has ever recorded
>not reverend bizarre
https://youtu.be/j19vZcp_1aU

>>69519925
rotting chirst - thy mighty contract

its got that heavy metal feeling to it that might be easier to digest for beginners

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>>69519919
You can't make your argument true simply by repeating it. I could have posted just a picture of the band, would have been the same thing. I went straight to the helloween folder and picked the first folder and the image file that was within it. Sorry that it meant such a strain for your brain to get around, but sometimes people don't mean exactly and exclusively and unequivocally what the words (or images) they use mean in an absolutely literal context. Backpedaling is a completely different thing to what you're implying, by the way. I didn't present an argument, then was met with a counterargument and then went "no but I meant something else entirely". What's going on here is that you're latching to a secondary element of the argument and changing the goal posts. "Aha! You didn't post this other specific album by the same band, therefore your whole argument is invalid!". My argument is still the same: Helloween is great, and euro power is better than USPM.

>>69519953
I stand by what I said
>>69519951
Tell me how comparing two tracks is similar to saying "I posted the cover art for the debut to symbolise the entire band".

>>69512952
>this many albums and kirk is still playing the samey same solo
Does James still write his solos?

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>>69519892
1:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVGOwy1cCC0

>>69519927
>Dodheimsgard
they should record a comeback split with Thorns

>>69519990
you could have posted a picture of the band (which would have been wrong since walls of jericho is their only great album), but instead you posted a picture of walls of jericho, implying that its a representative of the genre.

>helloween is great
blind guardian slays them in every aspect, one of the few european power metal bands that isn't complete trash

>europower is better than USPM
if you hate riffs and like choruses, sure

>>69520032
choruses were a mistake

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>>69520016
Because you posted an album which is completely unlike the rest of their discography. If you were to post Keeper of the Seven Keys, that would be more symbolic of the entire band because that's the sound that they kept up for most of their discography. That would be like me posting St. Anger to refer to Metallica in general.

>implying USA has any good power metal bands except Iced Earth and Symphony X

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>>69519940

>>69520032
>>69520049
Better than enjoying aimless noodling wankery

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Name a better power metal album.
protip: you can't

ah fuck off power metal is fuckin gay
uuuaah muh unicorns and dragons

>>69520065
Don't forget Omen, Liege Lord, Manowar, Fate's Warning, Riot, Savatage, Manilla Road, Armored Saint, Jag Panzer, Queensryche, Metal Church, Helstar, Agent Steel, Warlord, Iced Earth, Satan's Host, Leatherwolf, Sacred Oath, Cauldron Born, Virgin Steele, and Crimson Glory my man.

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>>69520032
>instead you posted a picture of walls of jericho
Because it was handy. I knew where it was, and I didn't have to go to google or anything.
>helloween is great
>blind guardian slays them in every aspect
Both true and not mutually exclusive; unrelated to the argument at hand
>if you hate riffs and like choruses, sure
This is, heh, wow. What do EuroPower bands have, if not riffs? Do they have 40 solid minutes of drone or minimal ambient? Do you even know what a riff is? And what the fuck is wrong with a chorus? Hey, get this: Most metal that isn't extreme metal has choruses. How insecure do you have to be to use that as an argument against a style of music?

You're tiresome, but not impossible.

>>69520062
This shit again. Read the whole exchange before shitting your pants and deciding it's a sign that you should type and post a retarded post. The picture was the first picture to be found in my Helloween folder (because it's the first album, y'see?), and I went straight to it because it took less time. Is this idea too complex for you? Don't answer, I already know it is.

>>69520094
Half of those are prog metal

>>69520084
Aimless noodling wankery in power metal begun with Malmsteen, Stratovarius and Rhapsody, actually. All European, too.

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>>69520084
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x16eSOCKM-8

>>69519940
>>69520076
>>69520100
Fuck off

>>69520115
>Malmsteen
>aimless noodling
found the bleb who can't into fugues

>>69519922
DUDE

>>69520108
I can only name three prog metal groups, and those three prog metal groups are progressive power metal.

>>69520108
and the rest are traditional heavy metal or speed metal

>>69512867
You really like memes as i can see

>>69520145
Fates Warning and Queensryche haven't been power metal in 20 years

>>69519246
I do agree in thag they have a sort of underlying predictableness to their songs but that doesn't stop them from being good. You also have to remember that they influences many many bands which is why they may seem even more predictable. They were the more melodic and structured side of Thrash when conpared to the rest of the Big 4. Their first 4 albums are their best (even AJFA without the bass...). You really need to listen to those sweet sweet riffs

I actually like St. Anger and DM, but DM is kinda boring in terms of writing.
Hardwired is good. Not great but definitely not bad. Kirk isn't playing anything particularly interesting still but it's not the usual shit you heard on DM and theres a nice groove to it. They're way past thier prime so Hardwired sounds to me like them just jamming out which isn't a bad thing. Could have been better though.

When you think about it Dream Theater is basically power metal but without the fun and 100% more pretentious

>>69520148
And that's where you're wrong. Here's a good definition of USPM.
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/meganoid/80s_us__power_metal__in_construction_/

There's confusion regarding American power metal because sites like RYM and Last.fm labled bands that were called power metal as speed/heavy metal, compared to metallum which still labels these bands power metal and recognizes that USPM is its own distinct sound.

>>69520169
You do realize when people refer to American Power metal, they're referring to the massive scene consisting of hundreds of bands in the 80s, correct? In that context they were power metal, and great bands too.

>>69520188
really makes you think...

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>>69520156
who doesn't?

>>69519892
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=757SiXkPlH4

Chorus metal

>>69520359
you want some?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH3kyXAEJHo

>>69520359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM71torFNBQ

>>69520032
>walls of jericho is their only great album
Why are people with taste this bad allowed to exist?

This thread lacks of DJENT

>>69520427
Because USPMfags are rifffags, and rifffags are cancer,

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>>69520436
that is only because we're too intelligent for it

>>69520417
Please don't remind me of this

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>>69520427
>there are people who unironically think this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUzpf3mMsxA
>is anywhere near as good as this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug_JdOQDxwY

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B E T H L E H E M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TL7xtpp2JQ

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>>69520474
Zierler will haunt your dreams

>>69520521
Yeah, they're both good albums, i'm sorry there's no cure for shit taste anon.

>>69518802
Only Non-Metal when No metal album is in real favorites

1970 - Black Sabbath
1971 - Master of Reality
1972 - Machine Head
1973 - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
1974 - Rock Bottom (Rober Wyatt)
1975 - Bongo Fury (Captain Beefheart & Framl Zappa)
1976 - Sad Wings of Destiny
1977 - Sin After Sin
1978 - Hell Bent For Leather
1979 - Overkill
1980 - Heaven and Hell
1981 - Killers
1982 - Screaming for Vengeance
1983 - Melissa
1984 - Powerslave
1985 - To Mega Therion
1986 - Mind Wars (Holy Terror)
1987 - Deathcrush
1988 - In Battle There Is No Law
1989 - Altars Of Madness/World Downfall
1990 - Mental Funeral/Painkiller
1991 - Human
1992 - A Blaze In The Northern Sky
1993 - Blasphemy - Gods of War
1994 - Bestial Warlust - Vengeance War Til Death
1995 - Belphegor - The Last Supper
1996 - Impiety - Asateerul Awaken
1997 - Sadistik Exekution - K.A.O.S.
1998 - Aura Noir - Deep Tracts of Hell
1999 - Conqueror - War Cult Supremacy
2000 - Morbosidad - Morbosidad
2001 - Black Witchery - Desecration of the Holy Kingdom
2002 - Axis Of Advance - The List
2003 - Bestial Raids - Necrowar Holocaust
2004 - Revenge - Victory.Intolerance.Mastery
2005 - Black Witchery - Upheaval of Satanic Might
2006 - Proclamation - Advent of The Black Omen
2007 - Truppensturm - Fields of Devestation
2008 - Blasphemophagher - Nuclear Empire of the Apocalypse
2009 - Teitanblood - Seven Chalices
2010 - Witchrist - Beheaded Ouroboros
2011 - Goatpenis - Depleted Ammunition
2012 - Deiphago - Satan Alpha Omega
2013 - Irkallian Oracle - Grave Ekstasis / Grave Upheaval - Untitled
2014 - Teitanblood - Death
2015 - Revenge - Behold.Total.Rejection
2016 - Dream Theater - The Astonishing
2014 - Dicocletian - Gesundrian

>>69520557
One's a good album with fantastic riffs, a top-tier vocal performance (for the mid-80s standards), and still managed to keep up with its American cousins in terms of innovation and heaviness.

The other's a melodramatic pop rock album with power chords with no riffs in sight, slathered with stadium rock choruses and catchy hooks. It's obvious that they toned down their heaviness, and the quality of their songwriting to reach a larger audience. The vocals aren't nearly as dynamic either.

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>>69520558
>2016 - Dream Theater - The Astonishing

>>69520621
>melodramatic pop rock
Your opinion is trash and shall be treated as such.

>>69520650
Put my opinions in the same bin as Keeper of the Seven Keys, then.

>>69520669
xDDDD

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>>69520677

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>>69520795

>>69520795
>>69520817
samefag

>>69520795
>this amount of butthurt and effort
Wow, you're deeply, emotionally invested in this, aren't you? Promise not to cry if I drop this business right now?

>>69520835
>effort
A minute in paint isn't effort.

>>69520831
samefag

>>69520855
More than it's worth it. Definitely more than a non-butthurt person would invest in it.

>>69520677
8====D

>>69512826
Can't get past the text to speech vocals

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>>69520877
>"xDDDD"
>not butthurt
Come on now lad.

>>69520904
on what

>>69520940
Oh, okie dokie. I like this turn of events.

>>69520973
I'll still be the one ejaculating on the enemy to assert dominance, though.

>>69520904
>>69520929
>>69520940
>>69520953
>>69520973
Both of you need to kill yourselves.

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>>69520994
No doy. How's that related to the discussion taking place

>>69519952
Word. I missed you at the start of the thread. Busy day?

next thread when

>Helloweenie edition

>>69520090
You're right, I can't. That's as good as it gets.

PAY THE BURNT BRIDGE TOLL

>>69521060
Give it until 310 replies

Why would we Halloween when Christmas is coming

>tfw no dj0nt gf

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>>69521551
why even live?

>>69521584
This is how djentereenas look like? Hiding daddy issues works better and better, however it's a clear sign to stay away that they listen to djent, so that's no problem.

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>>69521551
>wanting to be near any chick who likes metal. let alone djent

I DON'T SEE THE RELEVANCE OF ANYTHING YOU'VE GOT TO SAY

This is the abhorrent shit made in my area:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fgM15dW7l4
Anyone else tired of boring local buttmetal?
What's your area's most dull overused style of metal?

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>>69522360
metalcore bands

Is Mayhem worth seeing live? They're going to play the whole De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas around April 2017. Planning to see them, though I quite dislike their current vocalist, which in my opinion is complete shit. What were your experiences like, if you ever attended any of their concerts?

>>69522539
Saw them this summer, it's meh

>>69522712
Was Maniac or Atilla on vocals?

>>69522720
Attila
I really like him but the performance was weak

>>69522743
Sucks to hear that, but I hope they're going to be at least solid when I see them. All I'm asking for is that Atilla sounds as decent as he did on De Mysteriis and I'll be satisfied.

Someone spoonfeed me a link to Thorn's s/t

>>69522926
Say please and i'll give it to you

>>69522974
Pretty please, anon-san.

>>69522974
Pretty please

>>69522926
here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorns_(Thorns_album)

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>>69523067

desu

desu

desu

>>69523399

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>>69523399

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>>69519940

Best coming through

>>69519892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud3lI6rXj6U