Not bad?

It's bad.

You should listen to better music.

Not at all bad. A gazillion times better than Hail to the King anyway, that's for sure.

>>69375047
Like what?

>>69375051
Yeh I was scared cuz Hail to the King was such shit

>>69375071
>Like what?

Nearly anything would be better than this garbage. Fucking shit's for middleschoolers.and wannabe edgy fratbros.

>>69375135
Have you even listened to it?

Not released anything semi-decent since City of Evil
End of thread

>>69375135
>band is for people
pure ideology
>that makes them bad
non sequitur

>>69375155
A little. I'm not going to sit through an entire album that I clearly dislike. The two demographics I mentioned are the only people IRL I've ever seen legitimately praising this band though.

>>69375051
Well Hell ya. HTTK is the only A7X studio album I don't like
>>69375135
You definitely haven't even heard it. Quit embarrassing yourself and either go give it a shot or leave the thread. It's actually pretty great album
>>69375071
Favorite tracks? Angels, Sunny Disposition, and the title track are mine currently, but it's bounced around a lot
>>69375181
Their first 3 are far and away their best, this is for sure. What'd you think about Nightmare? I thought it was very cathartic
>>69375211
The people that listen to it have literally nothing to do with the quality of the music. There are plenty of 11 year olds that bump Fleetwood Mac and Hendrix(not that I'm comparing them to A7X)

And you should listen to the whole album before critiquing it. That's extremely shortsighted, especially since the second half is a lot different than the first for a lot of it

>>69375211
be the first to break the typecasting!

>>69375258
I liked Nightmare. Couple different but cool songs. Also made better because the Rev died, as fucked up as that sounds.

Top 2 are Waking the Fallen and City of Evil.

Recently got back into the White album. Some bangers on there for sure

>>69375211
>enters thread to insult album
>hasn't listened to it

How embarrassing

>>69375300
>>69375258

Nightmare is a fantastic record imo.

>>69375211
If, after only one or two songs, I wan't to drill a hole into my fucking eardrums so that there's no chance of accidentally hearing it ever again. There's really no chance that the rest of the album will be fundamentally different enough to change my opinion.

>>69375321
Very much so

>>69375323
meant for
>>69375258

>>69375300
Ya it was a much different sound for sure. Fiction and Buried Alive are fucking nuts. They originally revealed Rev's death as "natural causes" then later overdose, but after hearing Fiction which he wrote, I became sure he either committed suicide or wanted to die at least. That song's sad as shit.

Yep, WtF is my favorite of theirs, and one of my favorite albums in general.

>>69375323
>I wan't to drill a hole into my fucking eardrums so that there's no chance of accidentally hearing it ever again.
cringe. let me guess you're also the type to post terrible comparisons or something like that in rym shoutboxes and reviews. not only cringeworthy, also cancer

anyways my first impression was it's pretty damn generic but that comes with being "retro", and it's by no means actually bad

This is pretty gross.

>>69375348
I thought the remastered version was shit tho

>>69375370
Lol, the only thing cringy here is that people actually like this shitty fucking band

>>69375392
ex fucking dee

>>69375392
What do you like?

>>69375300
>Recently got back into the White album. Some bangers on there for sure
>Some bangers on there
>bangers
...

Well you like what you like, personally thought it was overdone with it's overblown arrangements.
Still beats Hail to the King and The Stage, literally is A7X Load and Reload.
Waiting patiently for their St. Anger/Illud Divinum Insanus.

Nightmare was decent, pretty ballsy without overdoing it.

>>69375348
>Nobody ever praises Danger Line

>>69375321
it's so full of passion. Really just further proves that they have no place being pigeonholed into this commercial corporate buttmetal group people that overlook them often include them in, besides the fact that every band member is incredibly talented objectively
>>69375381
they shouldn't have done that, I agree. I just don't listen to the remaster
>>69375392
the real cringe is condescending to others for what music they like, especially when you yourself haven't heard most of their shit. You should end yourself honestly
>>69375425
I liked the deeper, less popular cuts off s/t(Brompton Cocktail, Unbound) but Scream and Almost Easy are certainly not their best songs, and that's an understatement. What did you not like about Stage? Couldn't agree more about HTTK. Zero rawness or emotion outside of Requiem which was great
>>69375802
I like Danger Line, it's not one of my favorites on the album though. The lyrics on that song are great and the chorus is monstrous

>>69375977
>Really just further proves that they have no place being pigeonholed into this commercial corporate buttmetal group people that overlook them often include them in
That's 100% on them though. I love A7x as a band but they've always looked like a bunch of fags trying to score with the angsty teen demographic.

>>69375323
here I am, someone who's new to A7X and lurking this thread because I'm interested in how /mu/ views them while I check out their stuff, and I find this faggot that trashes an album of theirs after literally two songs. You're a fucking disgrace. For all you know there was a song you really liked later on and you just refuse to even give it a shot to find out. I fucking hate people like you

>>69376073
To be fair, that's how those guys have dressed literally their whole lives. I've seen many pictures of them as 12-14 year olds rocking the skull shirts and painted black nails and shit. It's not like they donned the outfit to play to a certain crowd or make money like the talentless Sex Pistols, that's just who they are. Whether you call think the look is faggy, whatever, is up to you, but I don't think they deserve criticism for what they wear if it's just what they like wearing in the first place. That's not really relevant

>>69376191
>Whether you call think the look is faggy, whatever, is up to you, but I don't think they deserve criticism for what they wear if it's just what they like wearing in the first place. That's not really relevant

It shouldn't be, and it isn't to me, but it is to a broader audience. Image matters (unfortunately), especially in the metal scene which can be very divided about these things.

And if you're gonna dress up like an emo teen and keep up that same look well into your thirties, you're gonna be compared to one.

But hey, I'll repeat: musically, they're one of my favorite bands. Waaaay talented musicians.

Do they have a new permanent drummer?

>>69376303
Yeah the guy who worked with them on The Stage is staying.

>>69376278
Ya I got you. I feel the exact same way. It's incredibly unfortunate that they are oftentimes discounted as one of "those" bands when they're so much more. They're one of my favorite bands too and it's undeniable that Syn is one of the greatest guitarists of the 21st century

>>69375039

Bad.

>>69376462
Why do you feel that way?

>>69376475

They are wasting their talent on by-the-numbers commercial, larmoyant earworm garbage.

>>69376552
>larmoyant earworm garbage
>not liking theatricality and catchy hooks
what's wrong with you

>>69376552
Commercial isn't inherently a bad thing. And compositionally I feel that it really isn't all that accessible. They use blue notes and time signatures in a very different way for this album compared to last releases, and have much more multi-faceted song structure for a lot of the tracks. At least it's a conceptual, thoughtful album that explores themes like technology and space and humanity in depth as opposed to being insubstantial. I think the catchy choruses actually played to their strengths mixed with the versatile and inhabitable jams

the only good radio metal band is volbeat

>>69376651
See this is what bothers me. You know they have their 2 first full albums of shit that would literally never be on the radio? Or that with 3 of the same band members they made an EP under a different name that did Mr. Bungle-influenced jazz rock/funk metal? Have you heard those and if so what'd you think of them?

>>69376703
didn't know about the ep but i've heard the first two A7X albums and didn't care for them. sometimes the instrumentals have some cool stuff going on, but a lot of the time i'm not very interested in it and i can't stand the vocals.

honestly if it wasnt for A7X i wouldnt be playing music. The Rev inspired me to play drums. I think The Stage is a great album that has so much going for it and the fact that people just dismiss them without actually listening to more than three or four songs is kinda sad. each album has a different sound and a different feel so if you dont like one, then try a different one. Plus they're the reason im into metal in the first place

>>69376630
Shh quiet, might piss somebody off...

Top 5 A7X songs???

Not even quite sure of mine, but it involves the following:
> Second Heartbeat
> Unholy Confessions
> Beast and The Harlot
> Wicked End
> Remissions

I can't decide

>>69376731
look up Pinkly Smooth- Unfortunate Snort. It's on Youtube

I respect that you at least gave them a shot. I think a lot of people prefer the Rev's guttural scream vocals(and in many cases so do I). It's extremely unique and full of personality but I can see where some find it too much.
>>69376832
They're what originally inspired me in middle school to start listening to a lot of different stuff and diving deeper into genres I liked, especially metal at the time. And I couldn't agree more, it just sucks because they actually do have those really commercial poppy songs that mislead people to interpret all their shit as that. '>>69377632
fuck that's a hard question. I'd be hard pressed to even do a top 15 but here goes

>Chapter Four
>Blinded In Chains
>The Art Of Subconscious Illusion
>Remenissions
>I Won't See You Tonight Pt 1

The only one I'm really positive about there is Remenissions. That song's insane

>>69376703
>they have a sporkcore album and 2 average metalcore albums
if this is a mark of quality i'm out

>>69377820
the criticism that they are "average" is purely subjective. I happen to think they are very unique, well-composed and solidly written albums. Also their debut is as much crust punk as it is metalcore.

>sporkcore

I don't say this often but why haven't you just killed yourself yet? That's a ridiculous attempt at a criticism

>>69377820
sporkcore is objectively the best kind of popular music so yes it is

>>69375323
I'm ashamed to share this board with dickheads like you

>2016
>a7x
>2016
>metal
>2016
>instruments
kek

>>69375039
not bad if you're 14, pretty awful if you're 22

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>/mu/ discussing avenged sevenfold discography seriously

Bad. Bad b8 also.

>>69378729
>being autistic elitist asshole that has no friends

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>>69378754
>praising babby's first metal band
they're not terrible musically, but they're comparable to nickel back to how mediocre their sound is. I used to like them too, but they're definitely a band you grow out of.

but keep on rockin dude \m/

>>69378754
Only autists here are those defending A7X. Go back to /r/music.

>>69378729
Its worth a conversation, especially with the popular acclaim they've been getting lately.

>>69378867
music is subjective faggot. Keeping being an avant teen faggot who is too self conscious to listen to music for enjoyment's sake. I feel bad for you
>>69378841
do you mean in terms of how unique or something? You just said they're not bad musically but their sound sucks like what the fuck

>>69375977
Honest opinion, no smear or condemnation.
What made HttK especially bad is that A7X lost their identity. If you're going to make core style metal, to at least have your own identity is paramount. Before they where an extreme mix of core metal, melodic death metal, with a more intricate melodic nod to British Iron Maiden. (BTW; when I say melodic death metal I don't mean the classic Swedish, but the core infused European style) On their first three most celebrated records, gradually they leaned more from the former influence into the latter. But HttK was a simple, uninspired cash grab. By literally ripping off old rock bands, but play the dusty riffs in a metal core format. So the old fans gave them backlash, having liked Nightmare despite it's dissipating melodic death metal influence. The Stage is nothing but a bandage, trying to be extra pummeling by injecting more thrash metal. But wanting to be appealing at the same time, turning it into pop trash that boarder on self parody. This might not be everyone's' favorite style of metal, but you can't respect a band that isn't even trying at the very least.
Or so I feel, if you dig then french fries in tomato sauce.

>>69379185
I agree with what you say about HTTK musically speaking, but I definitely don't consider it a cash grab. That's not the kind of guys they are. They even said in an interview it was an effort to appeal to a wider audience, and no not for cash but simply because more people can enjoy their music. I disagree about the Stage though, at surface level sure, it's pretty poppy with the catchy choruses and everything, but compositionally it's one of their most unique and inspired. I fail to see the thrash connection outside of simple high-tempo drum patterns, it's much more like prog metal.

>>69377688
ok, i'll give that ep a shot later, thanks. sorry if my original post was kinda blunt and mean btw

>>69379707
don't worry about it, I can tell you had good intentions. I do the same sometimes. Let me know how you like the EP

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Holy fuck. I can't decide if I hate this album more for its content or the incessant underages it gathers together to discuss it.

>>69379944
and thank you for joining us

>>69379944
>the grimes fan can't into The Stage

Thanks for validating my taste anon

>>69380078
painted up sparkly feminazi cancer.

>>69380046
>>69380078
>>69380211
Did you guys just get here from Reddit?

>>69380348
no from b/

>>69380404
Ah okay, makes sense.
Enjoy your stay.

>>69375039
As much as I disliked HTTK I gave The Stage a chance. So glad I did it, it's probably their second best album of their careers imo. The singer is a the top of his game and even when they kinda recycle some riffs throughout the record, it still is fucking awesome. I'm actually sad the album hasn't sold any more copies, it deserves at least the number of sales of Nightmare or City Of Evil.

>>69377632
Trashed And Scattered
God Hates Us
Critical Acclaim
M. I. A.
Welcome To The Family

>>69380348
says the grimes fan

>>69377688
Remenissions holy fucking shit

>>69380731
right?!
>A good friend once told me we are memory
>Without them we equal nothing
>And all I can see is the place I wanna be
>Timeless my life was so free

the lyrics are fucking flawless
>>69380531
MIA is so much fucking fun on guitar

>>69380824
Aside from Buried Alive intro and God Hates Us, I've never actually played a A7x song, not that it's out of my capabilities, but idk, I usually play in my confort zone (Some Slayer, Pantera, SOAD. Those drum oriented riffs are my jam). What would you say is the most fun of playing some sweet A7x on guitar?

>>69380979
I highly rec you learn Unholy Confessions and Beast and the Harlot. Those are my 2 favorite. Beast is fun as hell to play and sing and the riff on unholy confessions is just really good to work on speed. I'll play that riff faster than the actual song some times to warm up my hands

hmm I've never looked at the tab for God Hates Us but I'll give that a go

>>69381043
I'd see what I can do with Beast And The Harlot. Those armonies in the chorus throw me off sometimes. Unholy Confessions sounds easier (I'm a stubborn son of a bitch and I don't trust tabs for the most part so I play by ear. Had worked so far)

God Hates Us is actually pretty easy and fun since you slide the chords most of the chorus (kinda Mustaine style, but not quite) and the breakdown riff is pretty groovy.

>>69376703
A7x sucks but pinkly smooth is and will always be this shit

>>69381308
it's fairly straight forward. I'm wary of tabs but I always try them out and if they don't sound right, tweak it by ear. The intro's pretty cool too

>>69379944
>dissing actually talented band with one of the best guitarist/drummer duos of the 2000's
>worships untalented cunt that can only barely produce

>>69375198
>oooh look at me i have philosophy im smawwwt

Don't you know the chemicals can't control themselves?

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>>69383344
>actually talented band
>one of the best guitarist/drummer duos
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>69383500
Let's see Grimes play literally any A7X guitar solo. Literally any of them

>>69384254
Are you actually 12? Can I screenshot this for a cringe thread? Yeah, fuck it. I'm screenshotting it.

>>69375258
>Hot Opinion
>normie opinions
huh

>>69383441
doesn't change the fact you're full of shit

>>69377632
NOTHING TEARS THE BEING MORE THAN DECEPTION, UNMASKED FEEEAAAAAR.

Can't stand the vocals.

>>69384400
>the normie opinion on A7X is to hate HTTK, not care for a lot of s/t and love their debut and Pinkly Smooth EP

Not sure about that one bud
>>69384983
I can understand that complaint. I started listening to them in 6th grade so it's much easier, but they are very nasally.

>>69384295
Says the grimes fan

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>Brooks Wackerman left Bad Religion for this
I used to be a fan of A7X but come on now.

>>69375392
this exactly. It's the memegrips of buttrock for reddit and 9gag, apparently.

>>69386525
I guarantee you the stage is better than anything Bad Religion would bang out at this point in their career

>>69385821
normies like a7x you fuck stick, the majority of /mu/ do not qualify as "normie" (at least in music taste/elitism)

>>69387561
I like plenty of not "normie"(stupid word) music as well, and that doesn't change my love for this band. My taste expands to many genres, many countries, and many sounds, and I'm not so close-minded or elitist and pathetic as to change my taste to appease others. Enjoy your life in your sad little cage you made for yourself to peer through while we, who are free to enjoy any music we please, perform here up on the stage.

>>69377632
>Wicked End
>Strength of the World
>Chapter Four
>Creating God
>Buried Alive

>>69375198
No anon!
Music that panders to college kids is objectively better than music that panders high school kids

>>69387561
Kek that's not even slightly true

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>>69387561
>the majority of /mu/ do not qualify as "normie"

>>69387561
How's your first day friend?

>>69387561
Oh boy

>>69387797
Shh quiet, might piss somebody off...

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It's good.

HttK was an aborted album that somehow escaped the studio and accidentally got released.

The mixing is a bit odd, in the way that some songs have certain instruments playing in only one ear the whole song.

Exist is great-ish but would be better off if it were two parts - the metal instrumentals and the vocals are two different tones, and are both enjoyable, but would be moreso if they weren't part of a 15-minute song.

>>69390600
>It's good
It's good by A7X standards in that it's a 3 rather than a 1 or a 2. Fuck, this board sometimes...

>>69390644
What's your fucking hang up that you sit in this thread all day to bitch and moan about how "objectively" bad this album is when I guarantee 100% you haven't given this album more than one listen front to back, if that. Clearly this band isn't for you so go fuck off and hang yourself to the thought of never being Grimes, you basement-dwelling pathetic waifufag

>>69376391
Syn is a talented guitarist, but he is not one of the greatest guitarists of the 21st century. I can't think of a song of theirs that isn't in Drop D or a solo of his where he even bothers to incorporate that low D string.

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>>69390786
Savage.

>>69386525
Did people ever figure out why they axed their old drummer? The drumming on HTTK was really bland but the whole album was so I assumed it was the direction they wanted to go in.

>>69390818
I mean that's what he does in the band's music, yes, because that's the kind of music they make. If Syn went solo he'd be throwing all kinds of different tunings at us, and playing a lot more with obscure scales, jazz chords, etc., but he's not going to go on the fringe making accessible metal music of a very specific sound. He got his background being classically trained in jazz guitar.

And yeah sure, it's a long list I'm drawing from, just to even call him one of the best among 200 others is an honor, but he's up there to be sure
>>69390857
Give me a synopsis of The Stage and your favorite and least favorite tracks
>>69390879
I thought the same and was super upset by it. I'm pretty sure they had chemistry issues

>>69390903
Ignore him. He unironically fell for the Grimes meme.

>>69390903
Why would I? I listened to about 3/4 of it when it came out last month and it appalled me. My opinion is not going to change with more listens. Just read my take on it in the comment section of its RYM page because I'm not pasting it here.

>>69390952
It's not a meme and if you weren't fucking new you'd know that. I've been listening to Grimes since Visions.

>>69390983
Yeah you fell for the "Grimes is good meme". You also unironically think she's attractive.

the 2 trips with the historically absolute least self-awareness going at it

l m a o

>>69387561
t. underage

>>69391000
Again, you're new. /mu/ hating on Grimes is a 2016 thing.

>>69390965
Are you JamesCairn? Whoever that is and I actually have pretty damn similar taste

>>69391055
>I'VE BEEN HERE 2 YEARS SO YOU'RE SO FUCKING NEW XDDD
L M A O

>>69391055
>Y-you're new.
lol no.

>/mu/ hating on Grimes is a 2016 thing.
Which is weird timing because Grimes has always been shit.

>>69375039
I have a serious fucking question.

Why is such a shitty middle school band getting so much attention right now here

>>69391066
I've been posting in chart threads for 2 years. 4chan in general for much longer. What's your point?
>>69391063
That I am.

>>69391084
Right, okay. Give me a rundown on why you hate Visions. It's okay if you do, I just want to hear your opinion because you've clearly heard it and you have an opinion on it.
>>69391089
<3

>>69391092
Outside of our differences, we have a hell of a lot of shared taste. We should just stop fighting and instead be friends, ya know?

>>69391124
Its insufferable, overly saccharine trash. Its like someone trying to make "cute" baby noises over production that sounds like a youtube remix of an already popular pop song.

Also Grimes is disgusting.

>>69391154
>can't back his convictions
>l-lets be friends b-bro
loving every laugh

>>69391202
What convictions lol? I've said all I need to say across this whole thread. I'm not even arguing with the guy anymore.

>>69375323
kill yourself

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>>69391159
Alright, cool, but...
>disgusting
...anon.
>>69391154
I've seen you around for quite some time, but I don't think we've ever really talked. I disagree with some of your taste, but eh... everyone has disagreements. I'll send you a request.
>>69391202
I'm not malicious (sometimes). I think Avenged Sevenfold is complete garbage and I think Hot Opinion is aware of my opinion on that. He wanted an answer and I gave it to him.
>>69391250
He's right though.

>>69391089
filtered

>>69391293
filtered

>>69391296
Why would you filter Montie? He's the most entertaining trip on /mu/.
>>69391301
Oh okay.

I wish all tripfags would just fucking die.

stupid Attention Whoring scumbags are killing this already terrible board.

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>>69391317
I should've became a tripfag when tripfagging was popular.
You're the one getting triggered by our presence and responding. You know that you don't have to respond to everyone on here, right?

>>69386411
although it's true that he's a grimes fan, that comment about grimes playing an a7x solo is one of the most retarded things I've read in a while

I feel like most of the negativity towards Avenged Sevenfold stems from the fact that a lot of kids use them as their jumping off point into heavier music, and the fact that they're grown men who dress like they just raided hot topic.

Basically they have an image problem. Musically, while they're not that great, they're basically throwing back to classic 80s metal, and one of the few doing it. They're not my favourite band by any stretch, but I don't mind them at all either.

>>69391293
Ya, when we've each rated 2000 and 3000 releases there's bound to be different opinions. But hey, that's half the fun. You should Start doing more reviews

>>69391293
>...anon.

She is disgusting. She'd be a 5/10 if she actually washed and didn't dress like a tumblr reject.

>>69391394
She can't tho

>>69391358
fuck off

>>69391452
Holy fuck, dude. Quit while you're ahead.
>>69391436
I put too much thought into my reviews and I rarely find the time. I don't want my reviews to be like the joke reviews or the 2-3 sentence reviews, but you're right.
>>69391444
Shit taste, man.
Nice trips though.
>>69391463
no u xD

>>69391492
I experience the same struggle. My first 50 or so reviews I did them all like it was going to be published on p4k or some shit. They were like 1200 words and everything, but now I've learned to condense them a good deal and just cover main points unless there's something I have to note. I look forward to reading them if you get the time

>>69391541
Well, my Colors review is massive because it's my favourite album of all time, but 1200 seems excessive for an average review. I'm cool with a couple paragraphs, in all honesty.

>>69391315
Lost all credibility with that Montie fangirling.
I was on your side this whole time.