What were they thinking?

they were thinking of making good music and that's exactly what they did.

>>69338415
"lets make a feel good pop punk album"

probably "DUDE BOWIE LMAO"

Summertime and S/C/A/R/E/C/R/O/W are really good.

their first album is their best

>>69338415
DUDE I'M A MCMOTHAFUCKING EMO MALLGOTH IMMA PUT SOME FUCKING GUYLINER ON MY SHIT AND SNORT MXE OUT OF A LOLI TWINK'S ASSHOLE

>>69338944
are we still pretending The Black Parade isn't their magnum opes?

come on, anon.

>>69338970
i like the black parade, but it has some lyrics that kinda make me cringe ngl

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>>69338957

>>69338957
me too thanks

>>69338415
they were supposed to put out Conventional Weapons before this, but pussies out because it lacked creativity, so they went crazy and this came out, i didn't enjoy it but >>69338929
is right.
>>69338957
I don't blame you for posting this, the new wave of MCR fans are cancerous little 13 yearolds and they drive me away from every and any comment section MCR is involved with.
>>69338970
in terms of imagery and concept, yes. music? no.

And while we're on the subject, Bullets holds up incredibly well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSr9k0peUew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfXhb0eKj-8

>>69339054
this basically

>>69339054
the music on Black Parade was they best they ever made though.

>tfw this was my first album I ever purchased

oh well

>>69338878
Hey now, Danger Days was made to reflect how much better Gerard's life was now that he's sober.

It was also designed like a comic book.

Let the dude have his fun.

>>69339100
but he fell back into alcoholism whilst recording danger days

I still enjoy a lot of the songs on this album, but if I'm in the mood to listen to MCR I'm gonna listen to Three Cheers or Black Parade before this

>>69338415
Probably their second best album to be honest.

[spoiler]Frank is the breakout star since the split. Gerard put out a token album and retreated back to comics. Mikey wanted to be the modern day Pet Shop Boys and Ray decided to release an album more flowery than a Phil Collins record.[/spoiler]

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>implying this album isn't great in any way, shape, or form

>>69339054
>I don't blame you for posting this, the new wave of MCR fans are cancerous little 13 yearolds and they drive me away from every and any comment section MCR is involved with.
they're just chuunis, cut 'em some slack, you had some sort of a phase like that too. i think it's cute and i guess kind of admirable that a rock band can still inspire that

>he doesn't listen to Party Poison daily

>>69338415
it's their most patrican album

this was a great album.
not a single song i didnt like

>>69339070
You're wrong. It's really plain and boring also the lyrics are fucking trash like 50% of the time. The album is also painfully pretentious because it seems convinced that it's concept isn't something that has been done 300 times before.

>>69339182
It's sad because now that Frank has been able to be a front man and sing I have a feeling that he low-key wrote all of their best songs.

>>69340210
everything in this post is extremely incorrect

>>69340210
there's nothing plain about TBP or MCR in general.

>>69340288
how's his new band?

>>69340571
Amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGw8F1VZmo4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS1JpgK5wW4

I always hated MCR for being bland whiny fashion victim pop rockers, but just last week I finally heard their debut album and to my utter shock it's a decent, real post-hardcore album. Which makes me wonder, what the fuck was all that scene kid bullshit about?

>>69338415
First for Grant Morrison

>>69340675
>scene kid bullshit about?

they had a uniform, they were edgy and their singer was cute. they never asked for it, it just happened.

>>69340675
>>69341649
Ah the early 2000s...what a time to be a teenager

>>69341832
it was a different time, can't deny how fun it was though.

>>69338990
MCR does not have an album, and barely even has a single song, that doesn't have at least one serious cringe line. It's part of the charm.

>>69341832
Im 27, and what I don't get about high school kids these days is that they bash today's music while praising "classic" stuff from my "era" like MCR. I try to explain that we all hated that shit and the cool mainstream rock music of the 00s was called the "garage rock revival", but I don't think they get it

>>69342032
like the strokes and franz ferdinand? gay watered down "rock", i'd listen to sum41 and green day over that any day

>>69342032
>they bash today's music while praising "classic" stuff from my "era" like MCR
I don't need to hear this shit anon. I don't need to feel old, I'm not even 21.

>>69342032
MCR was one of the few good bands from that era, you're just a contrarian.

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>>69342032
>my opinion represents the masses

>>69340675
>I always hated MCR for being [uncool basically]
man that attitude is seriously kind of stupid

>>69342090
The Strokes were popular but bland. Franz Ferdinand's first album was fun. Everybody seemed to like the White Stripes. The big bands were The Hives and The Vines, though neither were really that good. The cool bands were Yeah Yeah Yeahs, The Libertines, The Kills, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, and The Raveonettes. Even then normies liked Arctic Monkeys. The Fratellis were a thing for about a minute.

>>69342172
The kids who listened to MCR in my town wore wolf t-shirts, went to anime conventions, and lied about having girlfriends at other schools.

>>69342195
I'm more talking about general sentiment in my area

>>69342283
fanbase =/= Band

>>69342313
cool != good

>>69340675
>>69342283
I think you are forgetting all of the members of MCR were nerds as well.

Calling MCR nerds is like calling Weezer a bunch of nerds. Kinda redundant.

They were thinking that they were going to make their best album.

They were right.

>>69342345
never did say MCR was cool, they just happened to make bitchin pop-punk/alternative rock music.

if I wanted "cool" I'd listen to blink-182.

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>>69342388
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>>69338415
>What were they thinking?

It is known.

They went for glam and fucked it up, delivering an annoying pop rock album instead.

However, that just makes it even nicer that Gerard Way made such a good glam album when he went solo

>>69342436
Dangers Days was all over the place but that's kinda part of its charm.

>>69342408
There's the distinction in what I'm talking about: when I was a teen in the mid 00s, blink-182 were actually considered really uncool because it's what everybody had listened to when they were in middle school. blink was still a really fantastic pop rock band, but nobody would talk about it because doing so would've been unfashionable.

i wish conventional weapons came out for real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XKlRZ9Kq4w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FL5VoXKVf0

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This is all I like by mcr and I'm willing to admit it's all nostalgia

>>69342032
Yeah this, I never bought into that whole faux emo trend.

>>69342512
don't know where you went to school, blink was the shit and their entire image was being the cool kids.

what does popularity really have to do with it? seems like the people you hung out with were just hipsters and tried to not like anything popular.

I live in California, and people here adored blink because they were from here just like Green Day. listening to blink was like an obligation for the cool kids.

well deserved, they made really fun music.

>>69342283
I remember being into shoegaze and Swans back in those days, very weird now.

>>69342512
This is spot on.

>>69342583
good stuff, but their other material is great too.

>>69342516
yeah, I have all of them on a playlist on Spotify. Flows pretty fine together, it's basically a B-side album.

>>69340675
They had to tour with scene kid bands even though it wasn't their initial direction. They made Mad Gear and Missile Kid to try and go back. Same thing happened to Fall Out Boy (listen to Pax Am Days.)

I enjoyed the later work of those two groups, but people don't seem to realize they would have been killer post-hardcore groups if they were in a position to sell it.

>>69342702
PAX AM Days is great stuff.

>>69342598
I'm from Boulder, Colorado.

I'm went to a hippie alternative charter school. The "cool kids" who made a big deal of being into music were into those garage rock revival bands. The popular normie kids were into a lot of 70s stuff like Bob Marley, Grateful Dead, and Led Zeppelin, and made a big deal of listening to "conscious hip hop" like Immortal Technique and Flobots. The geeks were into Disturbed and Dragonforce.

so basically now that the emo/scene scene has died /mu/ likes these typed of bands?

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>>69342840
there's a clear distinction between the shitty cashgrab scene bands and the bands that were liked by scene kids but made good music on their own terms.

>>69342813
neat. off-topic but, what did Colorado kids think of South Park?

>>69342840
A segment of /mu/ does, but I think most of us don't pay any attention to them whatsoever and just see them as insubstantial pop music not really worth remembering. And it's hard to talk about them when they share a genre name with an indie genre that bears very little, if any connection with them. When people discuss bands like Cap'n Jazz, American Football, Orchid, Merchant Ships, etc. it's hard to even talk about MCR or FOB because they're so irrelevant to the subject. It even gets more confusing when you consider that the modern "pizzacore" bands really are legitimate descendants of original 80s/90s indie emo

>>69342840
it's the dadrockification kicking in
mcr are something like the smiths of the 00s

>>69342927
Everybody liked it, but desu I don't think anybody thought much about the fact it was from/about Colorado, maybe because it was such a major show that it felt national, rather than local.

>>69340210
The album's concept is ripped nearly straight from The Wall, and somehow has even more filler.

I get that MCR, PATD ect aren't truly emo bands but I dont think any of the scene/emo kids back then had even heard about the bands that came before them like SDRE, and even less people do now, I think the 'emo' genre probably suits these newer bands more than SDRE type emo now whether we want it to or not

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>>69342899
a lot of normies make the mistake of assuming that the musical genre of emo is limited to the inferior bands that were around when the term "emo" was a really common insult

like when you had to listen to people make lame jokes about hipsters nonstop for two years. i can't remember exactly how long ago that was. sometime in the 2000s

i don't think they realize that emo has been around since the '80s and that bands like weezer are included

>>69343099
meant to reply to
>>69342952

>>69343008
>The Black Parade
>filler

desu that album was all killer and no filler.

>>69343099
what's truly Emo about MCR, Panic!, or Fall Out Boy?

It just seems like alternative rock to me.

>>69343237
I just mean that's what the vast majority of people think of when they think of emo music, I dont think I've ever met anyone irl whos heard of SDRE or captn jazz, and if they did hear those bands they probably would't think they were emo

>>69343286
then again I live in the UK so it's probably just a different scene here, used to be that there was loads of people wearing FOB/MCR t-shirts saying they like listening to emo

>>69343330
You do actually have a point there. I remember, as a teenager my friends would talk about how much they hated emo and emo kids, and in the background I'd be playing Rites of Spring or Hot Water Music, and they'd be totally into it

>>69343286
I think I've seen people calling blink-182's self titled album emo.

Kinda ridiculous.

>>69343387
>>69343425
yeah that's what 90% of people probably think of as emo, so I just refer to it as indie or alt if it comes up in conversation

>>69343425
Agreed, but it might be less ridiculous than it seems. blink were actually big fans of The Get Up Kids and some other emo groups, and in the mid 90s they even released a song called Emo, in tribute to that scene. Some of their early stuff sounds halfway between skate punk and emo groups like The Promise Ring and The Get Up Kids. Tom DeLonge said with Box Car Racer he wanted to do something more like Fugazi, and if you listen to that record they sometimes sound exactly like Quicksand, especially with the guitars. Also, DeLonge was the first person I ever saw with that lip ring/hair over one eye look that was so popular among scene kids, though in hindsight I guess post-hardcore bands like the Refused and Orchid had pretty much the same image

>>69343425
It's probably their release that fits within the genre the best.

>>69343425
not that much more ridiculous than the people here that claim, pinkerton/the blue album are emo

Honestly I think MCR and Brand New are like the only "teen" bands from that era that still hold up today.

>>69343621
I still to panic at the discos 1st album on a fairly regular basis desu

>>69343705
I " a " .

>>69343621
>Sum 41
>Green Day
>Paramore

>>69343731
think you might need to get your keyboard checked out mate

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>>69343705
Pretty Odd is really good

Vices is some decent power-pop

their latest 2 albums (especially their most recent one) have some fantastic pop music

>>69343810
Yeah shit got fucked up for a sec

>>69343813
I just hate the "look at me I'm such a fucking bad ass watch me over sing everything" style that they and fall out boy have.

>>69343775
Green Day hasn't had a good album since Warning in 2000, and the only people who like Paramore are guys who fantasize about the singer. All Killer No Filler is an awesome album, though

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>>69343855
>American Idiot is bad

>>69343813
didn't really like pretty odd too much when I listened to it, apart from 9 in the afternoon, that song is GOAT

might give it another go since it gets posted here quite a lot, kinda disregarded everything after that

for a second I though >>69343731 was some new epic meme that I'd missed out on or something

>>69343893
Pretty Odd is extremely comfy, you just have not compair it to Fever at all to enjoy it.

>>69343842
they're being ironic

I'm glad I had the privilege of getting really into this album as a 12 year old without a hint of shame or irony. The music's pretty good, not something I'd listen to now I've had time to develop my tastes, but solid.

More important than that imo is the aesthetic. Think of it as an alternate approach to 80s culture than synthwave and its related genres. The lore and the costumes and the videos are the most fun thing I've ever seen a band do.

>>69339422
>not listening to Destroya on the daily

>>69343775
>AFI
>New Found Glory
>Lostprophets

>>69342032
>tfw when Bullets came out when I was in 2nd grade
>tfw grew up on Tony Hawk OST cause older brother was a cool 7th grader
>tfw when time flies

>>69345577
I vividly remember seeing the lyrics for destroya on genius.com back in the day. Someone had highlighted the entire song and annotated "it means they are going to destroy everything".

Funny how you remember stuff like that.

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>>69345448
>the Mad Max: Hot Topic Edition music video for Na Na Na

I absolutly loved that, it's shame MCR is dead. Would've been legendary for them make a music video for every song and string them together like a movie.

>>69345758
That was the dream, anon. I was obsessed with that thought. Even though so many years have passed without me even thinking about this shit, I think its so permanently ingrained in my mind that I would jizz everywhere if it were to come true.

[spoiler]kind of like how I'd feel if Lauren Faust wrote the new My Little Pony movie[/spoiler]

>>69345681
I'm pretty sure Lostprophets will forever only be known as the babyrape band.

But hey, they were the most bland, unremarkable, forgettable band imaginable, so at least now they'll be remembered for something, right?

>>69346038
how young we talking about?

>>69346586
Infants.
I shit you not, he planned on giving one of them meth and the password to his laptop was 'I fuck kids' or something similar.

>>69342765
PAX AM Days is the best thing Fall Out Boy ever did.

>>69343101
>i don't think they realize that emo has been around since the '80s and that bands like weezer are included

They do know, they just don't care. genre's evolve, Metallica doesn't sound like Sabbath but it's still metal.

it's like how when people talk about the new post-hardcore bands, there's always that one dork who says "LOL WTF THIS IS'NT POST-HARDCORE HURR FUGAZI FUGAZI"

shut up.

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>>69347265
almost

>>69347740
On your point about old vs new post-hardcore, I do think it's important to distinguish between what are essentially two compete different genres going by that name. On the one hand, you have the post-hardcore that starts with Hüsker Dü, Fugazi, Dag Nasty, etc., then evolved with Moss Icon, Hot Water Music, Quicksand, Portraits of Past, etc., which led to At the Drive-In, Refused, Planes Mistaken for Stars, etc., and then Touché Amoré, Ampere, and so on. That strand has very, very little to do with the shitty scene genre of awful bands like Escape the Fate, From First to Last, Underoath, and Black Veil Brides. This is problematic because the former is one of the greatest forms of rock music, and the latter is among the worst. And yet, they're supposedly genre mates.

>>69347943
>Black Veil Brides

this was one of the worst things to ever happen to mankind.

>>69338415
They were thinking they could survive the death of emo (inb4 screamo nerds try to tell me real emo isn't mallgoth and real emo never died--shut up nerds)

anyway MCR knew emo was on its way out so they were like "lol we're a normal punk band now we wear leather jackets and listen to the stooges" and this pop punk album is what they came up with

>>69342107
generations within generations

>>69347984
see>>69342899

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>>69342583
>Sweet Revenge was 12 years ago
>Bullets was 14 years ago

>>69342702
FOB were never post-hardcore, they grouped up as a pop-punk band for moderate success a la Saves The Day. I bet you going from their old bands to a TTTYG sound was the biggest change they made.

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we need them back.

>>69339233
if you think about it Gerard Way was kinda the last true rock star it's cool that his music can still inspire young kids today
MCR is inspired by so many bands; The Smashing Pumpkins, David Bowie, The Pixies, and The Smiths heavily, they're a great stepping stone to get into 'better' music

>>69345577
that song was my shit lol I forgot it existed

was there a single definitive reason why they broke up anyway?

>>69340210
Describes Danger Days perfectly desu.

And their best will always be Three Cheers.

>>69339182
fuckin true
>>69340288
this. from all their solo careers we now know for sure who the pro songwriters were. gerard is very lyrical and poetic but frank was obviously the heart and soul, and you can definitely hear it in his new stuff and way older stuff...
and don't forget about death spells (and bloodnun)

>>69340210
>MCR
>pretentious

>>69349006
meant to add leathermouth

while I'm at it, I'm forever sad by the fact that after bullets they didn't chase a more punk sound. they could have been awesome and never would have been pigeonholed if they hadn't tried to combine metal and post hardcore and punk and new wave all together into some weird combo that came out way too pop. their roots are so amazing, pure nj punk, 80s goth, theatrical metal and others... i loved three cheers, but if they had been able to escape the "emo" (not actually emo) genre it would have been amazing.

>>69347764
Oh shit motherfucker

>>69338929
I agree. Summertime makes me real nostalgic for high school which I'm sure plays a part in this.

Danger Days' concept is pretty boring, but Na Na Na, Bulletproof Heart, Only Hope, Vampire Money, and especially Summertime are good songs.

There are other good songs on it, but it's ruined by the album's biggest failing, which is that it was engineered shitty in places. It really ruins Planetary and parts of others, even some of the ones I named above.

>>69342899
So now that the dust has settled, I think we can take an objective distinction between the two

>God Tier
Thursday
Thrice
Underoath
The Blood Brothers
Brand New

>Good Tier
MCR
Silverstein
Saosin
Alexisonfire
The Fall of Troy
Taking Back Sunday

>Bad Tier
The Used
Chiodos
Matchbook Romance

>Oh shit what are you doing Tier
Hawthorne Heights
Story of the Year
Aiden

>>69349257
Thrice kicks ass, I listened to their discography a few weeks ago after remembering I listened to them all the time when I was younger and was impressed. Their music still holds up really well.

>>69349257
who is The Used and why does Spotify keep recommending them to me?

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>>69349289
Pretty overrated post-hardcore band imo. Listen to pic related if anything. It has a few decent songs. Everything they did afterwards was pretty cringe.

>>69349257
When I found out the guy from Hawthorne Heights committed suicide, I thought "wow, maybe there's more depth to his music than I realized," so I went back and listened to some. Then I thought "wow, who cares, this shit sucks"

>>69349289
A really whiny, light emo-pop band with the most grating screams thrown in. Mostly popular because the singer resembles Kurt Cobain and had a troubled past with drug addiction and homelessness, so 14 year old girls could fantasize about him as the troubled artist.
When the scene kid fad ended, they tried to refashion themselves as a peppy dance-rock band, with hilarious results

>>69349373
He didn't actually kill himself, btw.

From Wikipedia:
>Toxicology and autopsy reports stated that Calvert died of combined drug intoxication.

>According to the results of an autopsy performed by the office of the chief medical examiner in Washington, and released in December 2007, Calvert's death was accidental. Dr. John Mendelson, a pharmacologist at the California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute, told MTV News

not that it matters, the music still sucks.

>>69349257
Story of the Year doesn't deserve to be on the same tier as Hawthorne Heights

>>69349462
It does matter a little. I'd rather he be some useless junkie than actually troubled and in some way complex... so thanks

>>69349506
Scott Stapp attempted suicide at least once

>>69349576
If you woke up one morning to find out that the music of Creed was your life's work, what would you do?

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>>69349576
so did Pete Wentz of Fall Out Boy

>>69342032
>tfw when Bullets came out when I was in 2nd grade
>tfw grew up on Tony Hawk OST cause older brother was a cool 7th grader
>tfw when time flies

>>69342583
>tfw when when bought this on vinyl

FUCK LIKE A KENNEDY

2nd best album senpai

Also why the fuck is there so many MCR fans on /mu/

BP > DD > Bullets >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Revenge

>>69351339
all the users of 4chan back when MCR was big and insufferable left and the kids who liked MCR are using /mu/ now

>>69351420
But all they had was Green Day and Blink 182 which is the equivalent of MCR

what the fuck this is good everyone said it was shit and i avoided it for so long and now it's good and im mad

>>69348565
Not really, their solo stuff is mostly fine. You now have 4 bands to listen too instead of 1.

>>69351575
you should really listen and form your own opinion on things rather than listening to others, especially with music which is probably the most subjective form of media.

people were probably quick to call it shit because it wasn't as good as The Black Parade, but it didn't have to be.

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>tfw actually got to meet the band and get shit signed
>tfw in my 30's and it's still on my wall

No fucks given

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>tfw never saw them live

>>69352216
i fell you

>>69352216
i live with that

>>69343237
MCR's first album had some emo elements, it goes nicely with Four Minute Mile by The Get Up Kids

>>69352216
>Didn't get into them till Three Cheers
>Missed out on being able to see them in a pub with 30 people on the bullets tour

Fugg

>>69352216
Sucks to suck

>My Chemical Romance thread
>158 replies

/mu/ is dead

>>69354645
And yet almost no shitposting. I prefer this /mu/

>>69354645
back to your Fantano thread

Vampire Money and Party Poison are my two favourite MCR songs

>>69356561
3 2 1

WE CAME TO FUCK

>>69340675
>>69341649
>>69342702
I've always said this about MCR. They were always the best of that mid-2000's Scene Kid band groups. People always shot to sound like them, to look like them, to be as good as them. Most just sounded bland or like all the others.

They were always on top of their game because they were just doing what they were doing. Most of their fans were incidental. Some had taste, many didn't, and while it's how they sold it, they weren't just being edgelords with pop-punk, they just fell into that crowd and had to deal with it.

>>69348425
Take this to your grave sounds so much like Saves the Day's first two records

Top 5 MCR songs:

1. Demolition Lovers
2. Early Sunsets Over Monroeville
3. Vampires Will Never Hurt You
4. This is the Best Day Ever
5. Skylines and Turnstiles

>protip: they stopped thinking much earlier in their careers

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>>69357847
oh look, a Bullets hipster.

I bet you think Cheshire Cat is the best blink album.

Lemmie guess. You think Bleach is better than Nevermind and In Utero.

>>69358194
I hate Cheshire Cat in comparison to later Blink, completely generic, their s/t is far and away their best album.

Bleach is better than those two but it's still not very good, Unplugged was the only great album they ever did.

If you don't think Bullets is their best you're in denial, it's the only one that has fully stood the test of time. Sure, I used to listen to a lot of Three Cheers and Black Parade when they were new but they haven't aged nearly as well. Danger Days was never good.

>>69358261
>all these wrong opinions

The Black Parade is to MCR like s/t is to blink.

>>69358313
Except s/t holds up. s/t and Bullets are the most cohesive albums by the respective bands which is why they hold up best.

>>69358406
every MCR album holds up extremely well.

The good blink albums are Box Car Racer, s/t, Neighborhoods, and Dude Ranch, in that order.

The only good MCR album is their debut.

The only good Panic album is Pretty Odd.

The only good FOB release is Sugar, We're Going Down.

And all of them sound unbearably bland compared to the pop punk bands like Jawbreaker and the post-hardcore bands like At the Drive-In that probably inspired them.

>>69358433
>blink
>any good albums
>MCR
>any good albums
>Panic
>any good albums
>FOB
>any good albums
18+

>>69358465
You'd have to be over 18 to have heard of those bands, surely, they aren't still popular are they?

>>69358423
Jesus, I didn't realize I was conversing with a child. My bad.

>>69358433
If you don't like Enema, you're a just a tryhard with no taste. Simple as that.

>>69358465
nice shitpost. All of these bands are over a decade old.

>>69358500
nice post, really made me think.

>>69358639
Thanks, your blanket statement about how an old artists' entire discography holds up did the same for me

>>69358665
better than flinging ad-hominem and losing the argument by default.

>>69358633
lolno
Enema is catchy, but it lacks the substance of their earlier punk stuff and their later, more thought out, we'll written stuff. It's just them at their purest, shallowest pop. More fun than the others, but also a lot less to explore.

>>69358702
It wasn't an argument because I had no intent to change my mind and realized you were a lost cause. I have over a decades' worth of memories associated with MCR, my opinions on what their best work is are pretty firm after years of old favorites losing their appeal.

>>69358729
nothing on Cat or Ranch has the substance of Adam's Song.

>>69358756
you don't have to justify your shit taste to me, buddy.

>>69358764
Adam's Song is fantastic, but it's completely unique for that album.

I didn't mention Cat. I don't think Cat is a good album