Honestly, the black Grimes

>>69198218
>black Grimes
Dropped

>>69198226

would still smash tho. dont get me wrong

Fuck Grimes

>>69198218
Looks white to me

>>69198218
Except Grimes is ugly

>>69198317

in south africa she wouldn't be

>>69198218
Twiggly Wiggly is way better than Grimey Wimey. If anything she's the Black Björk

>>69198218
why is /mu/ only capable of talking about female artists in relation to each other?

apparently bjork, st. vincent, grimes, fka twigs, pj harvey, kate bush and julia holter all sound the same

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>>69198529
Don't forget Joanna Newsom, who apparently makes pop music

But she's talented and cute while grimes is shit and ugly

>>69198218
Doesn't she get offended if you call her black instead of biracial?

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>>69198474
>>69198570
>implying this hack is better than Grimes

But she's actually attractive

>>69198652
Get the fuck out

Whats Black Grimes been up to lately? Any new tunes in the works?

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>>69198218
Not as talented and even as beautiful.

>>69199881
making an album with OPN

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Black St. Vincent

>>69201211
desu

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TUNE IN NEXT TIME TO SEE D'ANGELO KEK BECK AND SLANG HIS BIG BLACK DICK INSIDE BECKS DESPERATE WIFE

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>>69198218
>black Grime

This is black grime music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH0KWX2a8zY

>>69198218

>black

shes lighter than most italian white guys

>>69201211
saw her in Moonlight yesterday. not entirely convinced of her acting abilities but she has some nice tits that i didn't notice before, man, i really appreciate her body of work now

>>69202194
in OP's pic, maybe

>>69198218
>black
Dropped

>>69202194
>italian
>white

>>69198570
This desu.

What did Twiggy ever do to you to make you insult her like that, OP?

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>>69198652
>implying FKA is a hack and grimes isn't
Jesus christ you grimesfags are the cancer killing /mu/

>>69202980
Prove it that she's a hack or gtfo.

>>69198218

grimes writes her own music as far as i'm aware.

>>69203277
true. she also produces it (+sound engineering & cover art).

>>69203277
And it shows.

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>>69203277
>>69203340
so does twigs

>>69203371
exactly. it sounds amazing. no external interferences, just a pure expression. she's one of the few complete artists of these days.

>>69198218
Except twigs is talented and attractive and not black

>>69203398
too many collaborators. her art isn't 100% hers, it's diluted.

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>>69203471
>>69203471
>but Grimes' is

>>69203463
more talented than grimes? pfffffft! twigs isn't able to write a half decent song and she sings like she's on the death bed. grimes deserves all the hype, twigs not at all. style over substance.

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>>69203471
explain grimes then?

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>>69203511
>that entire post

>>69203428
Not what I had in mind, but you already knew that.

>>69203536
what to explain? grimes wrote and produced all those songs. she had only 2 guests on art angels: janelle monae & aristophanes (both only sang).

>>69200941
Is this true?

>>69202489
Waifufag piece of shit

>>69202980
We already killed it haha

>>69201211
Explains while its shit then

I got insulted when some hack journo called Monae the new Bowie

>>69203463
She is biracial like me :3

>>69203758
it was a piece of shit anyway. tell me 1 (one) good thing about this junk of a board.

>2016
>People still think producer credits mean anything

>>69204089
Why not? The producer is that one that makes the final product (turns a demo into an actual listenable song). You're stupid.

stop with this fucking waifu shit you fucking degenerates. keep it in the kpop threads so we dont have you deal with you faggots outside of it

>>69203720
where did you get that she is my waifu?

>>69198417
grimes is beautiful

>>69198750
So is Grimes.

>>69198218

Is this the only photo that exists of Twigs with a closed mouth?

>>69203812
grimes threads

>>69205389
i admit, you're right. you won.

>close mouth
>immediately look attractive

every other pic of hers ive seen is a fucking tragedy

>>69202980
There is something psychologically wrong with you for saving that picture and posting it in every thread to ever mention grimes on the whole website

>>69205780
He's just an autistic fuck. I pity his pathetic life full of hate.

>>69206672
looks like a nerd

dem buckteeth

fka twigs is pretty good t b h f a m

reminiscent of kate bush

>>69204151
What about vocals and lyrics? Don't they carry the song too?

>>69198218
She's only half black though

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BUCKTEETH

>>69208489

try explaining that to robert pattinson fangirls

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So who's the female grimes?

>>69203682
shocking news, mainstream artists don't even credit their composers and writers unless they're famous too

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>>69198474

>>69205828
I bet you're a women

>>69203511
You know you are shitposting
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Nah not really, twigs is a legit musician and her face isn't used as an aid to induce vomiting

>>69210111
>Not understanding the power organizations like ASCAP have in the MAINSTREAM music industry
Lol

>>69198218
MFW the black crimes is hotter. Pol btfo

>>69211463
Also thanks autocorrect

>>69209396
Lol. Who knew how racist tweens could be.

>>69200932
not even close

eh, she aight

>>69212223
just kidding I actually love her

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>>69210090
grimes (since she/he can switch her/his gender and travel through space and time)

>>69210741
>legit musician
>can't even produce for herself

>>69210729
You know you are shitposting
You know it

all I know is I would put my dick in fka twigs but I would not put my dick in grimes

I would also listen to fka twigs music but I would not listen to grimes

But she's not shit

>>69211463
>black crimes
God I love Freudian slips

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>beautiful
AYY LMAO

>>69214280
good. it's not like grimes ever needed the appreciation from a huge pleb and perverted dickhead like you. keep your stupid dick to yourself, faggot.

>>69214332
that's photoshopped

>>69198529
because they make subpar music as it is

>>69214410
Literally from FKA twigs - Water Me video clip

>>69214434
it's video shopped

>>69202980
is that really a real picture?

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>>69214368
are you literally grimes hahaha

>>69206894
>nerd

i don't get it

>>69214368
isn't this the kind of thing feminist retards usually say?

>>69214456
'shopped. there are many versions of that ugly pic.

>>69203812
the Kpop threads to be honest. That's it *sighhhh.... Used to be great

>>69214509
no. it's the kind of thing normal people say when they see shit like >>69214280 but you can't understand that because you're not normal, but perverted by 4chan.

>>69214577
"she's not here for your pleasure, dickhead" "congratulations you have a penis!"

Take it elsewhere bitch! Haha. As soon as people stop paying attention to you you'll be chasing it begging for it

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>>69214332
>this is a 10/10 in bongoland

Her and the dozen or so other interchangeable artists singing dirty airy lyrics about neon fucking like ABRA are hard to tell apart musically

except Twigs is a good artist

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>>69212223
>>69212233
HOW??

>>69198474
triggered my innermost sanctuary

>>69206894
>>69214332
>>69214733
>Not thinking that non-white girls aren't superior to white girls

>>69210090
Holy shit. This is the actual non-shopped original? I've never seen it.

>>69217745
>original
It's shopped too to highlight her imperfections. Whoever did that is a mean bastard that I hope he will be forever broke.

Except FKA Twigs actually makes good music, visual art, choreography, and is attractive. Not saying it's great, but it's leagues better than Grimes

>>69217952
>but it's leagues better than Grimes
Based on what? Prove it.

>>69218034
Not>>69217952 but could you prove that Grimes is better than FKA? Literally try

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>>69218100
Alright then...

GRIMES PROFILE:

>Full name: Claire Elise Boucher
>Born: 17 March 1988 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
>Origin: Québécois, Ukrainian, Russian and Italian descent
>Music style: synthpop mixed with dreampop, IDM, R&B, J-Pop, medieval, classical

>Instruments:
- vocals
- synthesizer
- sampler
- guitar
- bass
- drums
- violin
- ukulele

>Skills:
- singer
- songwriter
- producer
- sound engineer
- lyricist
- live performer
- visual artist
- music video director & editor
- dancer
- model

>Main interests:
Music, visual arts, dancing, books, films, modeling, video games, internet, and others

>Music taste:
http://www.last.fm/user/chairmandore/library
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimes_%28musician%29#Musical_style
http://www.pandora.com/station/2895208146671614201

>Others:
- Grimes does everything in her music, from singing and songwriting to artwork and production
- nice personality, beautiful look, cares about environment issues and saving animals
- took her name from grime music after discovering the existence of the genre on Myspace
- studied ballet for 11 years
- was a goth outcast in high school
- studed neuroscience, philosophy, and Russian literature and McGill University before being dropped out for missing classes
- had some troubles in the past: drugs, 2 friends died because of overdosing drugs, sexual assault, shitty jobs, the professor who got her into a music program killed himself
- started making music when she was around the age of 22 or 23
- big Lord of the Rings, Dune, Game of Thrones, Star Wars, Abbess Hildegard von Bingen and Russian literature fan
- her best friends are James Brooks, Hana, Bloodpop, Duffy, Born Gold

How could FKA Twigs even compare????

>>69218177

This reads like a stalker's notes or something.

Why do Grimes fans get really defensive when someone says somebody is better than her, it's really weird, I hardly see fans of other artists do this, out come the huge lists, like they count for something, Grimes may have more skills than her yeah, but nobody can prove anyone is better than anyone else, unless their music is truly awful it's just people's opinions.

>>69218177
You could actually copy and paste this and change the "fun facts" and it would also fit Twigs

>>69218295
>nobody can prove anyone is better than anyone else
This should be posted when
>someone says somebody is better than her
And then no one will
>get really defensive

>>69218400
twigs doesn't have all of those skills and can't paly that many instruments

>>69218295
It's just a pasta
>a stalker's notes
You can find anything from that list with google, everything from it it's public. Even Wikipedia has such profiles (smaller though) on all notable artists. BTW, funny that you complain about stalkers when you post on the fucking 4chan.

>>69218440
She has every single one of those skills

>>69218446

I know, it's just funny when written in a list like that.

I love a lot of Grimes' music it's just a little odd how defensive some fans get over the smallest criticism.

>>69218613
>I love a lot of Grimes' music it's just a little odd how defensive some fans get over the smallest criticism.
That's their trademark.

>>69218640


Yeah and they wonder why she's hated here, they're probably the main reason, they just don't get it

>>69198218
Thus, inherently better.
But no she's more like the child of Bjork and Aaliyah

>>69214796
What other artists besides ABRA sing like her?

>>69218770
What they were supposed to do? Aren't all fanbases defensive?

>>69218958

Yes but not to the degree of her fans, at least on here. They seemingly can't accept opinions different to theirs.

>>69219093
Because they were attacked all the time. It's a vicious circle. More hate towards Grimes & her fanbase -> more counter-attack. You just can't post her name on a thread without being insulted. Is it normal in your opinion, to not be able to discuss her peacefully?

>>69198218
but she's actually good

>>69218295
>>69218613
>>69218770
>>69219093
>fans are fanatical
Really makes you think.

>>69219773

I'm a fan but don't come up with lists ready to post and obsess over negative things people say about her.

>>69219814
You're not a fan enough. Maybe you just midly like her and her music. I wouldn't stand someone talking shit about things that I love.

>>69219989
kill yourself

>>69198529
THIS

apparently having a vagina classifies the music that you make into a specific genre

>>69220009
He's right though. If you like pizza and someone says pizza tastes like shit, you call that person a faggot.

>>69220009
>not liking someone's opinions
>wishing death to that someone
You must be human scum. Fuck off.

>>69219989

Don't tell me what I am. I'm a huge fan, seen her live four times. This is the problem with some of her fanbase here, someone thinking she's not that good or saying someone else is better is not "talking shit" about her. Insulting her yeah.

>>69220093
>someone thinking she's not that good or saying someone else is better is not "talking shit" about her.
That is not. Fair enough.
>Insulting her yeah.
Agree.

>>69201370
like it and hate it at the same time

>>69214434
being this retarded

Is it bad if I think twigs and Grimes are both really good?

>>69220988
it's ok and it shows that you don't easily fall into memes

>>69218486
she doesn't even produce her songs

>>69220988
I don't think anyone could sincerely hate pop music

>>69218833
>Thus, inherently better.
nah

>>69218295
>This reads like a stalker's notes or something.
There is absolutely nothing stalkery about that post.

>>69218295
>Why do Grimes fans get really defensive when someone says somebody is better than her,
Because it's almost always meant as a giant putdown.

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>>69198218
FKA Twigs is not even fit to clean Grimes' shoes. Not only she has fewer skills than Grimes, but even those are much weaker than Grimes. She needs lots of producers and writers to make her music, so what is really her contribution? She's an overrated hack and nothing more.

>>69221590
Tbh you and your ilk are morons for not liking both Grimes AND FKA Twigs (one of Grimes' own favorite performers btw) at least a little bit.

>>69221920
So, we are morons for not liking things you like? Whatever you say, dude, that doesn't make you right. Music taste = subjective.

>>69221590
Now I understand why grimes makes such one dimensional music. Unwillingness to collaborate isn't really a good quality. It's too bad, she could be so much better.

>such one dimensional music
The same artist did all those different songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvanzhR6ok [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_hFrJ-FM2o [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhNxvoXOKcI [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWam7u9uBNY [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUe9rnucPoU [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVt3FxE8F9w [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsNaj6l5z8M [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2_hBNQqEus [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1cLVE1ZXqw [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUxCeVupemA [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy3FPRaeW3Y [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0_e_OWy694 [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo_AIWO2AUQ [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LmBM0mTafI [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-bKSyG0lng [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_0LzBv894 [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8v4vwWcIgI [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_hOYZ90_iQ [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvXkx3IcOi4 [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiGHFYqeqck [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsYt1-5MXT4 [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGLvUejoRb4 [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpSZxfHBPWA [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw8IwXr1DFI [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3REHoqNE_7U [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2EJMd7ZN7w [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAKcox2IIGU [Embed]

>>69222262
>>69222689

>>69221590

she made the record entirely with garageband presets lol. of course she wouldnt need to work with other people

>>69222689
I've listened to everything she has made. She makes one dimensional music. Sorry.

>>69222262
>Unwillingness to collaborate isn't really a good quality.
Lol. Go tell that to these guys - https://www.discogs.com/lists/The-50-Greatest-Composers/1571

>>69219814
That's because you're not a real Grimes fan.

>>69222802
Out of curiosity, which 'one dimension' would you consider that to be?

>>69222802
>Muh two dimensions
>>>/a/

>>69222955
Her music tends to include delayed, heavy on reverb vocals, usually standard pop lyrics about her heart, love, missed connections (basically the usual), not to mention a lot of poorly recorded samples, tons of presets that she does nothing interesting with and bad mixing. Furthermore, she does not have a particularly good singing voice. I don't even dislike her but she treads a lot of the same ground and has developed less than I would've liked. I'd actually argue that her music has gotten significantly worse since she started.

>>69222925
>comparing grimes to some of the greatest musical minds ever

>>69223143
>not to mention a lot of poorly recorded samples, tons of presets that she does nothing interesting with and bad mixing
her two latest albums are propely mixed and all samples sounds good

>she does not have a particularly good singing voice
also not true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R00Vu7Ag7s
how could someone deliver such song without "good singing voice"?

>>69223301
>her two latest albums are properly mixed and all samples sounds good

No they do not. Maybe Art Angels you could argue this for but Visions was very poorly mixed. A lot of the musical ideas got lost behind walls of reverb that didn't add any melodic or harmonic quality to the music.

That song is her using the same vocal technique she does in every other song. I stand by my points.

>>69223143
>I'd actually argue that her music has gotten significantly worse since she started.
Based on the fact that every criticism you just made is vastly more applicable to her earlier music, you've just argued for the exact opposite. And the fact that you failed to catch such a glaring inconsistency in your own argument before posting it says a lot.

>comparing grimes to some of the greatest musical minds ever
>because they also tended to favor working in relative seclusion
Yes.

>>69223419
It's almost like when she first started her style was novel or something.

>>69223372
>A lot of the musical ideas got lost behind walls of reverb that didn't add any melodic or harmonic quality to the music.

Gonna quote myself from a long-gone previous thread, because it relates:
>Again - it depends on the style of music. In small-ensemble situations (typified by the jazz and classical chamber groups) sonic interest is principally achieved through variations in scale, chord progression, time signature, and tempo (aspects known as the horizontal axis elements of music in music theory circles - since they're rendered horizontally in standard music notation) rather than through variations in sonic texture and timbre.

>In contrast to this, large ensemble situations (typified by layered/sample based music - ala Grimes - and classical orchestra/organ music) the opposite is true. Sonic interest is primarily achieved through variations of sonic texture and timbre (aspects known as the vertical axis elements of music in music theory - since they're rendered vertically in standard music notation) brought about by combining individual samples/instruments together in constantly changing configurations, while leaving the horizontal axis elements relatively untouched.

>One of the best classical examples of this latter method is Bach's Passacaglia in C Minor (originally written for organ, but transcribed here beautifully imo for full orchestra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAIT02mB9lo Notice how, despite its extended running time and constantly variating sound, the horizontal axis elements described earlier are very simply defined and NEVER change (the entire song's chord progression consists of the same 4 chords repeated ad nauseum.) This is the sort of context in which the complexity of Grimes' music (especially regarding her earlier stuff) is based; constant, conscious variations in sound quality rather than formal structure.

>>69223536
I am aware of musical theory and I listen to a lot of sample based music so I'm also aware of the standards of that style. But really calling her music complex is laughable. At this point you're really grasping at straws. Enjoy the pop though.

>>69214317
My phone is racist

>>69223623
>I am aware of musical theory and I listen to a lot of sample based music so I'm also aware of the standards of that style.
I am a trained professional as regards music theory and I compose and perform non-sample based music (for both large and small ensembles) for a living, and enjoy listening to sample based music as hobby. My statements on the matter are made in that context.

>>69198218
I listen to neither, but goddamn, FKA Twigs is fine. Along with Alessia Cara.
Grimes is butt fugly though.