/shugazi/ Shoegaze General

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Go fuck yourself.

>>69190403
what a terrible start to a thread

is boris shoegaze

>>69190462
sometimes drone, sometimes doom, sometimes shoegaze
always good

>>69190462
Is boris shoegaze or shugazi? And what is shugazi?

>>69190461

that was the point

Kairon Irse is criminally underrated for their uniqueness in a genre full of the same shit

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>>69190495
ah, to be new

Blur were never considered shoegaze

>>69190403
Shoegaze is a superior genre

>>69190667
yes

>>69190667
Yes

JAPGAZE IS FUCKING HORRIBLE

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Thoughts on this?

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>>69191113
There's my cue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3AFdNreCO8

we /dedgazi/ all of the sudden?

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>>69191654
Lovely.
Care to share more like this?

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shoejazzpop. listen to this if you know what's good for you.

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>>69190462
Sometimes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlcfEtBpvFM

Also, any opinions on their last collaboration with Merzbow? It's called Gensho: https://borismerzbow.bandcamp.com/

Read the description for better understanding of the project.

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>>69191585
I liked it but not as much as I thought I would since it's hyped up and shit.

Listened to pic related today, was pretty good. I was surprised because I was not expecting much, I had even forgotten I had it in my library. Well, a pleasant surprise.

Kinoko Teikoku are really really fucking good!

>>69192622
Have you heard their new album?

>>69192636
Not yet. I'm listening to just Long Goodbye right now, but I can already tell it'll be one of my favourite bands. In fact I'm about to order all of their CDs!

>>69192665
That's nice. Don't forget to get the limited edition while you still can: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UPCH-29240

>>69192234
Yeah it is pretty hyped up. there are definitely ways it could have been better, I've seen a few people bring up it's length as a negative.The main operator behind Sweet Trip even said V:D:C could stand to be 15-20 minutes shorter.

That album sounds interesting, I'll have to give it a listen.

Shoegaze is a stale fart in a dry leather briefcase. Why bother with boring rock?

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>>69191585
top 3 shoegaze albums ez

>>69192700
Comes with a DVD huh? Would you recommend getting it? I'm not that big into concert recordings really, but having variations of the songs might be cool? It's cheaper on Amazon too, 3100 yen; only 4 bucks more than the standard one.

>>69192811
It wouldn't hurt paying 4 bucks more for extra content, right? Assuming you can, of course. It includes some photo cards too. It'd be pretty nice of you to rip/scan the extra content for us poorfags who happen to love the band.

>>69192900
Yeah, 4 bucks is nothing, I might as well get the LE.
Though I'm sure DVD-rips will be all over the place, they're a pretty popular band after all, no?

>>69192999
I haven't seen anyone mention the existence of the DVD until now so, I can't say. I do am pretty sure that the rip won't come from Japan because of their copyright laws.

>>69193060
Huh. Well yeah, I guess we have to depend on people that import stuff and are willing to rip it.

In any case, if no one else can do it, I will. Not sure where I'd put it though. Maybe MEGA or rutracker, or both.

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anyone got anything similar to this?

>>69191585
overrated af on here. I mean its okay, but its no where near as good as people pretend it is.

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>>69191585
one of my favorite albums of all time desu
I don't really know why, it makes me feel something inside
have some Japanese goodness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ghLX_2XVNA

>>69190403
Nah, Syrup16g is the top of the shoegaze game, mbv is bretty gud tho

Anyone else noticed how expensive Souvlaki is these days? Even an used CD is 20€ on discogs.

>>69193403
what about you post a song form him feggit?

MBV, Ride, Slowdive

or

MBV, Ride, Lush?

>>69194178
MBV, Slowdive, Lush

>>69194130
That's weird.
On German Amazon you can get the 2-disc version of Souvlaki for 10€. In fact you can get all 3 Slowdive albums with 2-discs each for slightly more than 30 bucks.

Similar thing for MBV too.

JAPGAZE = WORST SHOEGAZE. This is fact

>>69194765
JAPGAZE best gaze!

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What should be the modern shoegaze trinity? Only albums from 2010 and younger allowed.

>Candy Claws - Ceres & Calypso in the Deep Time (2013)
>True Widow - As High as the Highest Heavens (2011)
>Tokyo Shoegazer - Crystallize (2011)

>>69193403
Literally who

>>69195027
The production on that Candy Claws album almost ruins the whole thing for me. It has such dense, lush instrumentation but they just compressed it into a tight, flat brick of sound. Really disappointing desu.

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>>69190403
not even the best mbv album

>>69195299
Never Say Goodbye is absolutely beautiful

>>69190403
It's a pretty shit album

Why is Loveless the only good album in the genre?

I can't seem to get into ride.

what about doomgaze?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfytPS6j4Cw

>>69194264
fuck off. i like lush, but ride belongs with the other 2

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>>69195027
>Pinkshinyultrablast - Grandfeathered (2016)
>Helen - The Original Faces (2015)
> Barlow - Fell Asleep EP (2013)

>>69190403

I don't know how to make good songs so I just overproduce everything with texture until you cringe: the album.

>>69197389
more drone gaze but yeah love jesu

>>69191843
They've only got two demo albums and a split EP, definitely worth checking all of those out
Pastel Blue –Pastel Demos [2010]
>shoegaze, Japanese, dreamy, noisy
DL: https://mega.nz/#!BMtk2ZyB!b9yMdktaFCETbJMEFbsxPIkB7kLMn_KwBvErBAW4WA8

Pastel Blue –Blue Demos [2010]
>same as above, this one's a tad better though
DL: https://mega.nz/#!UV0DSKiC!h4LZ0mr7bN62ItVvtC3-Yf-mWX1k8DMicmY16F3FBhE

Sugardrop/Pastel Blue –Eternity In Moment [2011]
>more alternative first side, nothing new for pastel blue
DL: https://mega.nz/#!Fd9D2C4L!Wg8B9yzDj54j_AOjVQYdMkPQsAtbhIsP6vCnrGTFI7M

Oeil's pretty similar in sound, but they drift a bit closer towards tame MBV worship than Slowdive
Oeil –Urban Twilight [2007]
>shoegaze, dream pop, japanese, slow, dreamy, fuzzy
DL: https://mega.nz/#!UdMWyLhT!mTSKohKYrQI4xmQzxfhQ5EM72tqfrmHtsNxYfQfPWTA

Oeil –Myrtle [2014]
>same as above, a bit more electronic and poppy
DL: https://mega.nz/#!1Ys3wI4b!PeIBysW0g_r4B8jxm51PTFjus0JkulBFCnsc353NbmA
I need to do more looking around soon, I've been sharing the same 10 links for a while now

>>69197894
I can't understand a genre so I give it shit on /mu/: The post

*four snare hits*

>>69195027
The albums I see get most frequently memed on here are definitely

>Candy Claws - Ceres And Calypso In The Deep Time (2013)
>Kairon; IRSE! - Ujubasajuba (2014)
>きのこ帝国 - 渦になる or eureka (2012/2013)
>Pinkshinyultrablast - Everything Else Matters or Grandfeathered (2015/2016)
>A Sunny Day In Glasgow –Sea When Absent (2014)
>東京酒吐座 - Crystallize (2011)
>True Widow - As High As The Highest Heavens... (2011)

Kinda surprised there's never much mention of m b v or Pains Of Being Pure At Heart's second album

Also if we're counting dream pop and blackgaze then honorable mentions need to be made for Beach House, Alcest, and Lantlôs

>>69191883
CRAAZY

>>69190523
Yeah, because they're middle-of-the-road Brit Pop. Not really that surprising.

They'll also never be considered country, or opera, or rap.

>>69190403
shoegaze is fucking gay
hipsters are fucking gay
you guys are all fucking gay
/mu/ is fucking gay

kill yourselves please

Someone send discord inv please

>>69198788
Nice poem

>>69195027
>>69198314

I'd say:
>Candy Claws - Ceres & Calypso in the Deep Time (2013)
>A Sunny Day in Glasgow - Sea When Absent (2014)
>My Bloody Valentine - mbv (2013)

I know people wouldn't want to put another MBV album in the highest status possible, but fuck the haters. Is is going to go down in history like Loveless? Of course not. Is it one of the best shoegaze albums since 2010? Absolutely.

I think closely behind are
>Pinkshinyultrablast - Everything Else Matters (2015)
>The Pains of Being Pure at Heart - Days of Abandon (2014)

>>69198788
I know you are but what am I?

>>69198314
FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

>>69198830
shoegaze is homo
you are a fucking fag
enjoy this haiku

>>69198872
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>69190403
>the start
>image is not the psychocandy cover
lel

>>69198911
>six syllables

>>69190462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HhSS1hUUjQ

>>69198911
that's not a haiku
you disgusting mongoloid
thought of suicide?

>>69199308
add 'got' to the last word in the second sentence :^)

Absolutely newfag to the genre, what bands i must know?

>>69199645
all of em

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>>69199645

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>>69199645
While >>69199713 is a good chart to show the development of the genre, I think starting with essentials (the big three) is the best way to go.

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Just listened to pic related this morning. I was pleasantly surprised. It's definitely not quite as great as Ceres and Calypso, but it had some really, really nice moments. "Diving Knife" is fucking great.

>>69191113
Then explain this you fucking pleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXsBYOHUYKg

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>>69195027
Let's vote on it, brehs

http://rkursem.com/poll/view.php?id=41895ba659ac6c173

>>69191585
Its good but its not even their best album

>>69201030
well what is then?

>>69195027
I like Candy claws even more than loveless etc, I used to be convinced that there was only 1 good shoegaze album

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>>69201062
Might just be because i find it much more relatable that i prefere this

>>69201168
you can cry to all of this

>>69191585
you can only cry to some of this

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How do you feel about the shoegaze album of the decade?

>>69198788
>69198788
i am rubber and you are glue so what you say bounces off me and sticks to you!!

>Checked

>>69201233
real good
it's like a sonic thill ride mang

>>69193207
Something less on the shoegaze side, more on the rock side?
Supercar - Three Out Change!! is pretty similar. Less intense but more "dense" sounding; more muddied vocals/sound.
Sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14egyXDMlsQ

>>69198788
nice dubs

>>69202386
UPLOAD IT ALREADY YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

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You need to listen to shit right now if you haven't. Dude has one of the best voices in shoegaze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XWmpHp3O9E

>>69190523
They were though in like 1990 and 1991 before they went britpop

>>69202386
where's the guy who said he bought it

>>69200875
>mbv at top
>3 votes

is it too early to call it, guys?

>>69200875
can i take back my answer

>>69205456
nvm i did it

>>69191904

Seems like we keep getting a new "play these things at the same time" project every year or so, how long until a music player catches on and builds the functionality in? Or does something already exist that allows you to play multiple sound files at once as easily as a single song?

>>69194178

Slowdive, Slowdive, Slowdive

>>69194178
Slowdive is way better than Lush cunt

>>69201233

I found it very boring, the textures weren't anywhere near at intense as the hype suggested and the songwriting underneath couldn't make up for it. Not a bad album and I'd probably feel different if it were like my first or second shoegaze album ever but I have a hard time seeing how genre veterans can get excited over this. Deleted months ago, probably won't revisit.

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>>69203712
the confirmation email said Comiket has slowed everything to shit

>>69205916
you might never get it

But that's not The Moon and the Melodies.

>>69196798
this

>>69206043
don't sound like the gaze

>>69201168
I agree with this.

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https://andrewyounker.bandcamp.com/album/brainchild

This is my new dream-pop/shoegazey ep that I dropped, pink slip is getting play on DKFM...also getting tapes made soon, what do yall think?

I took lsd for the first time a few days ago and listened to loveless. My life will never be the same.

>>69190520
wow the irony of this post

i miss whirr

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>>69200875
>>69204650
this makes sense i guess

>>69198817
hah you fell for the discord meme

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>>69205613
this

>>69191585
It's ok. I like most of it, especially Design 2:3

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My singer-fu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pJTPIprspM

>>69209735
Neat, but nothing more.It's chill to put up as background music but I kind of want more, something, noise, distortion, louder singing.. I don't know. Quite underwhelming.

Thoughts on curve?

>>69212349
Only ever heard Doppelganger, but I do dig the darkwave-y vibes they got going

>>69212349

Like that other Anon said, they definitely have a dark feeling to their music. For some reason I couldn't get into them though. I should like their music, because both dark and shoegaze are styles I like. Perhaps I should give them another chance.

>>69200875
>distressor ep tied with mbv for first

i thought whirr was generally disliked

>>69212599
Not the music at least

>>69212599
Its just triggered idiots who think they are ""intolerant"". They are objectively the greatest modern Shoegaze band

>>69212599
Pipe Dreams is a solid album as well. Sway is great, i have yet to hear anything else that sounds like it

>>69212599
>8 votes
That's hardly indicative of anything
there's 67 unique IPs that've posted in this thread alone, that'd be a more telling sample size than the few votes this poll's gotten so far
Give it a little while

>>69212812
t. Tranny

>>69212824
I'm not arguing against the results, I'm just complaining there's no votes

>>69210543
nice blog

>>69200875

Why is Cults there? Are they considered dream pop?

>>69212858
they seem just generic noise pop
there's a couple others on there I'm not super sure on either like no age

>>69200875
No Joy should be on the list

>>69212925
You can add stuff if it's not there

>>69212925
>>69212932
This, I put on Wait To Pleasure

>>69190516
New album coming man

where does Peripheral Vision fit?
dream pop or emo?

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Happy birthday

>>69213423
aptbs was the first show i ever went to good good good thing

>>69212305

Not really dreamy or shoegazey enough but this is good.

>>69212599
>sunbather on 3rd place
Please no.

>>69212599
Distressor has always been a shugazi favorite.
Glad mbv is at the top, amazing album.

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Is Beach House shoegaze? wtf is shoegaze?

>>69215220
It's not shoegaze but it's /shugazi/

>>69211864
Its Whirr, not Whirl

>>69215220
Beach house is Dream Pop, which is a sister genre to shoegaze.

>>69200875
>sun
>bat
>her
>third on the list
For fuck's sake, I'll never understand the love for this album, or why it's even considered shoegaze.

>>69198405
>>69198859
>>69200875
Love seeing all the love for A Sunny Day in Glasgow's Sea When Absent. I didn't feel like this album got enough attention on /mu/ when it came out.

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thoughts on this?

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>>69216554
>blackgaze

>>69217569
whats the album with the cat and the pedals

>>69217627
Tokyo Shoegazer – Crystallize

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東京酒吐座 [Tokyo Shoegazer] - Crystallize [mp3, 320]
>shoegaze, indie, post-rock, japan
DL: https://mega.nz/#F!CRtyVTyR!lr5Y1uEeGUmlWjEV05M_xg
Sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuzAoCgPadc

>>69217765
i wanted to not like this since it's (a) japanese and their shit is often cheesy, (b) i don't like cats, and (c) the "pile of pedals" motif is cheesy as fuck.

but that wasn't half bad at all.

>>69218472
glad you didnt judge the book by its cover

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>>69218472
Go listen to their second album then
There's no cats or pedals

Also there's a bunch of solid shoegaze albums with cats on the cover, so you're missing out if that's a legitimate criterion of yours
>pic wholeheartedly related

>>69191904
I love Gensho. I usually just play the Boris part really loudly though. It's interesting to mix them up though.

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Catgaze.

>>69201233
It's an entire album of shit that's been done before

>>69200462
oh fuck, this is nice and comfy

>>69217765
We should all be considering this classic desu
To me at least, it's the real essential album when it comes to Japanese shoegaze

>>69217765
>>69218900
>>69219205
>>69219226
What is it with shoegaze and cats?

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Linda Guilala - Psiconáutica (2016)
>Shoegaze,noise pop, twee pop
DL:https://mega.nz/#F!G9JEWTzT!C-5roH8xttwt9SIrBbJAOQ

Xeristar got some hype here on mu/ but havent seen anobody talk about their actual new lp. Pretty fcking good album t b h

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>>69221573
Seems to be doing relatively well in the poll
Albeit /shugazi/ has a bit of a wapanese kick when it comes to new releases, but it's definitely super solid regardless

>>69221712
Shoegaze is usually associated with sensibility, introvertion, introspection. Sort of like cats I guess.

>>69218900
WAIT? THAT'S A CAT?

I always thought it was some weird hairy demon head with shadow eyes. I always thought chapterhouse was edgy as fuck.

need good psych shoegaze

>>69223881
>I always thought it was some weird hairy demon head with shadow eyes. I always thought chapterhouse was edgy as fuck.
dude
what

>>69223881
>I always thought chapterhouse was edgy as fuck
Chapterhouse were poppier than Ride even
Half the stuff off their first album is reminiscent of late 80s Madchester acid rock stuff

>>69191585
One of my 10/10s honestly, pretty fucking amazing

>>69201168
this album is beautiful, i wish they did more after this tho

>>69222590
Top 2 seem to be a lock. Its a solid top 3 so far

>>69222590
Everything Else Matters is so much better than Grandfeathered

>>69225580
They are both great but i prefer Grandfeathered

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>>69225502
Yeah they've been consistently even and considerably ahead in votes

1. My Bloody Valentine –m b v (18 votes)
= Whirr –Distressor EP (18 votes)
3. Candy Claws – Ceres & Calypso In The Deep Time (12 votes)
4. Deafheaven –Sunbather (11 votes)
5. きのこ帝国 – eureka (9 votes)
= A Sunny Day In Glasgow –Sea When Absent (9 votes)
7. 東京酒吐座 – Crystallize(8 votes)
8. Kairon; IRSE! –Ujubasajuba (6 votes)
= Grouper –A I A : Alien Observer (6 votes)
= Pinkshinyultrablast –Everything Else Matters (6 votes)

>tfw you listened to shoegaze too much for years and now you find it boring as fuck

>>69225889
I am afraid of this

Dreampop is the hardest genre to get right. Reverb pop dominates while decent dreampop is rare as fuck.

how to make shugazi vocals? Just add reverb?

>>69226289
If you can talk just talk longer

>>69225822
good list

>>69226289

If you don't like your singing voice you can get away with just singing softly and drowning it in reverb, delay and any other effects that might sound good then keeping the volume lower than the guitars. If you do like your singing voice you can just do a little reverb and keep them higher in the mix.

>>69227112
>>69226443
thx familydingding

>>69226289
Cry beforehand

>>69191654
who is this?
Youtube is being a dick

>>69230532
Pastel Blue– I'd shared their stuff in an earlier thread but to save the trouble of digging through the archive

Pastel Blue –Pastel Demos [2010]
>shoegaze, Japanese, dreamy, noisy
DL: https://mega.nz/#!BMtk2ZyB!b9yMdktaFCETbJMEFbsxPIkB7kLMn_KwBvErBAW4WA8

Pastel Blue –Blue Demos [2010]
>same as above, this one's a tad better though
DL: https://mega.nz/#!UV0DSKiC!h4LZ0mr7bN62ItVvtC3-Yf-mWX1k8DMicmY16F3FBhE

Sugardrop/Pastel Blue –Eternity In Moment [2011]
>more alternative first side, nothing new for pastel blue
DL: https://mega.nz/#!Fd9D2C4L!Wg8B9yzDj54j_AOjVQYdMkPQsAtbhIsP6vCnrGTFI7M

>>69230630
Thanks m8
Had a feeling this had the answer, but I was unsure.

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>>69200875
==CURRENT RESULTS== looking good fellas

1. My Bloody Valentine –m b v (21 votes)
2. Whirr –Distressor EP (19 votes)
3. Candy Claws – Ceres & Calypso In The Deep Time (14 votes)
4. Deafheaven –Sunbather (12 votes)
5. きのこ帝国 –eureka (11 votes)
6. A Sunny Day In Glasgow –Sea When Absent (9 votes)
7. 東京酒吐座 –Crystallize (8 votes)
8. Kairon; IRSE! –Ujubasajuba (7 votes)
9. Grouper –A I A : Alien Observer (6 votes)
= Nothing –Guilty Of Everything
= Pinkshinyultrablast –Everything Else Matters
= Pinkshinyultrablast –Grandfeathered

>>69230903
I think the poll should open up next /shugazi/ thread and then after that thread it will be official

>>69230945
I like this idea
this one will probably die overnight unless the yuros keep it going

>>69230996
If it dies ill make a new one if someone doesn't first

>>69230945
I dunno the poll has been up for like 30 hours, so I feel like most everyone should have seen it already
maybe not though

>>69231072
i wouldn't think so

>>69230945
Post it in the discord

>>69230945

>official

That's not really how any of this works.

>>69231108
ok, what do you propose then numb-nuts?

>>69190520
i think you're the new one here

someone start a petition to get whirr back

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