What are some underrated jazz albums?

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>>69187593
Every Herbie Hancock album.

All of them.

>>69187615
no
hell no

>>69187649
What? Something wrong?

>>69187781
How can you say he's underrated? Dude's a mega star
The critics might not like him, but that's because he switched target audiences, but every person who dips its toes in jazz likes electric Herbie
From what I know, these guys who switched from traditional jazz to fusion like Herbie, Miles, Chick Corea and such were hated by jazz critics back then, but their popularity was greatly improved
So yeah, it really depends on who is "underrating" them

>>69187947
Well I meant more along the lines he was underrated on here.

I've been listening to his discography from the beginning and I just finished Mr. Hands. I'm having a great time w/ it.

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>>69188021
Oh I know who you are, we talk to each other all the time in here
I'm the guy who recced you Jimmy Smith
We are BFFs already

>>69188098
Yaaaaay. Hi bff.
Just an update on my 'progress'

FDFMN was a lot better than I expected.
Monster was pretty bad.
Mr. Hands was REALLY good and may be in my top 5 Hancock albums.

Also fun fact: He was on frickin Sesame Street for some reason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKoisNv1ftw

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one of you twats please listen to david s ware plleeease. also henry threadgill is underrated, especially his air trio

>>69188747
Maybe if you didn't call me a twat I would have...

>>69188757
alright, continue to ignore the best new tenor player since the late 60s. fuck it, how bout you cunts also try paul motian trio, ben monder, masabumi kikuchi, and booker ervin since you arent going to bother cause of my potty mouf.

>>69188814
Why so hostile? Sheesh...

>>69188827
im drunk

>>69188883
Oh. Ok.
Listen to Herbie Hancock <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjW4TBN2Vk8

>>69188827
>>69188883
and have only had two smokes in the past 12 hours but ill try to calm down. david s ware- go see the world/ alive in the world. air- air raid/ air song. paul motian trio- one time out/ any of the on broadway stuff (not trio). ben monder is probably best on a tyshawn sorey record called koan and also blue buddha while im thinking about tyshawn. masabumi kikuchi- anything with tethered moon/ sunrise/ black orpheus. booker ervin- the space book/ the freedom book.

>>69188814
>David Ware
>best new tenor player since the late 60s
lol

>>69188957
...You're confusing and scaring me.

>>69188903
nah man, not a big herbie guy. love him with miles and hes pretty nice on some of the mid 60s blue note stuff but i dont really dig anything beyond that.

>>69188962
who else then man?

>>69188981
whats confusing? its records.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUGM9ikbBDw

>>69188985
Well how much of it have you listened to?

>>69189053
piss of weeb, this is about jazz. keep that cowboy bebop nip shit, limp dick, swinging like a rusty gate crap outta here. plus not underrated, pretty much known mucore

>>69189029
Mark Turner or Tony Malaby

>>69189072
Fukui is no more or less underrated than anything previously ITT

>>69189061
pretty good amount, like most of his records honestly. i mean, his acoustic music is definitely some baaad shit, just not really my vibe, alittle too nimble and fluffy. and well i guess his electric music is pioneering? but i really cant stand it and his fusion stuff isnt really very good in my opinion either but im not a big fusion guy anyways. again the only herbie playing that does it for me is the shit with miles.

>>69189120
haha yeah man, turner is a bad dude. fair pick. not too familiar with malaby but ive checked out his record with will parker and nasheet. i need to dig in more on him. i still prefer dave ware, i dont think anyone has as much total power and control since trane.

>>69189129
wrong again kneeeeeegrow.

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>>69189135
>nimble and fluffy
I'm not knocking your taste but why does EVERYONE say fluffy is an insult. Fluffy is nice and wholesome.

Pic related is probably my favorite of his blue-note years.

>>69189172
>i dont think anyone has as much total power and control since trane.
Frankly since Coltrane existed I don't really see the point of Ware's style. Sheer power doesn't impress me too much and I think I could name quite a few saxophonists who I'd say have more "control" but that's sort of hard to quantify.

>>69189266
im probably the one that called it fluffy before. not meant to be an insult, just not in line with my taste in pianists. i like monk, mccoy, jarrett,waldron and shipp. as far as herbies blue note stuff im not wild on most of the stuff with him as a leader but check out a lee morgan record called the procrastinator, really swingin.

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as well as a lot of other yass albums

>>69189285
i think his tunes and his groups give the style a fresh context in the post trane world but i think we may just have to agree to disagree. im relistening to some malaby stuff rn and i gotta give him credit for how much space he leaves but i think he lacks time feel and groove. but props to him for doing his debut with motain. what other stuff are you checking out these days? u seem like you could turn me on to some new shit i would dig.

>>69189342
>i like monk, mccoy, jarrett,waldron and shipp
What are they like in comparison to Herbie?

>>69189285
also i have to say that with pretty much everyone except ware who plays in that style id have to agree with you on not really seeing the point in it anymore but ware has something different, possibly cause he was rollin's student? idk

>>69189381
https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/jazzthreadguy/recent/

>>69189419
I've never heard of this guy but I better see some nice ratings for Mr.Hancock.

>>69189401
huh, well theyre all different in there own right but i guess in general id say theyre darker, groove harder, bluesier besides maybe jarrett but he has his own thing. frankly they sound blacker.

>>69189444
How much darker we talking?
I mean if I listened to NOTHING but Herbie, what should I expect listening to one of those?

>>69189419
ah man, i already know alot of those records but thanks

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pretty nice new polish jazz

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Really good polish fusion

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>>69187615
but hes put out so much piss poor shit

>>69189500
alright lets do this. ill post a link based on how you answer this. do you want something similar to herbie to start with or do you want to just jump right in?

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Polish avant-garde jazz

>>69189523
Similar to Herbie.

>>69189520
Sextant and Monster are the only ones I outright hated so far.

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Another yass album, this time with a bit more of experimentation.
I recommend the band Miłość too, though they were playing a bit more normal stuff.

>>69189542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSUiqjjetUg

>>69189582
Definitely has a 'Takin' Off' vibe to it, except maybe a little more free form. I'm really diggin it.

I'm looking for some calmer albums to listen in the evening/night to chill a bit, just would prefer them not be sad, perhaps some fusion, soul jazz or cool?

>>69189542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCSQbxzJyoU

attempt to ignore the fact that jarrett is a monster fag.

>>69189419
do you only review obscure albums?

>>69189657
>jarrett is a monster fag.
...What?

>>69189634
yeah i forgot tranes solo is alittle more out there then what youre probably used to.

>>69189671
the pianist keith jarrett, in the video i posted, is a moooonster douche. yells at crowds of coughing during his solos, recording or taking pictures. stands at paino and moans while he plays, woos for himself when he plays something slick. but hes a motherfucker.

>>69189674
I wasn't insulting it. I REALLY liked it.

>>69189692
Oh that's him humming....I thought the video had an audio problem...I still like it though.

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>>69189712
glad you dig it, try listening to a coltrane album called coltranes sound. yeah, you get better at tuning out his fucking eric cartman esque wails but its a deal breaker for some people understandably.

>>69189750
Why is he doing the moaning over his playing? It's grating as hell....

And I'll probably listen to A Love Supreme since that's the one I see the most on here (Same reason I listened to Bitches Brew)

>>69189670
No, there are some albums in there that are pretty acclaimed and popular.

>>69189784
eh, a lot of guys need to sing while they play if its an instrument that isnt connected to the breath so they can phrase well and feel more connected to the material theyre playing. and uhhhmm yeah, if you want my suggestion id say consume some alcohol or pot or anything you have handy and turn off all the lights and listen to a love supreme at the volume one notch down from pain. i did that like 7 years ago and now im a jazz musician in new york.

>>69189826
no trip tonight jazzthreadguy?

>>69189852
I'm not old enough to drink and pot's illegal here.

Is there something up with A Love Supreme that I'm missing?

>>69189873
>pots illegal here
didnt u hear me say i live in new york? but yeah im also originially from amsterdam so whatever.
>is there something up with a love supreme
uh no? idk just sit back and listen to it, its spiritual. just relax. why do you not like it?

>>69188734
Mediocre FOTM that only got attention cause Fantano said he liked it.

>>69189866
He only trips for /blindfold/ these days.Unless he's stopped coming on here more than I'd already imagined.

>>69189947
ah, thanks. he sucks.

>>69189911
Well I was just asking since you rec'd I should get wasted/high when listening to it. I haven't listened to it yet. Maybe tomorrow.

>>69189981
oh no, nothings up with it. the first time i listened to it i admitted to some other jazz musicians that i was hanging with that id never heard it. i was like 14. so they put it on, we sparked a joint and listened to it with the lights off and then we listened to it like 3 or 4 more times and then we listened to the bootleg live version in antleibs. its significantly changed my life. kinda annoying a lot of people treat it like a meme.

>>69190031
> i was like 14. so they put it on, we sparked a joint

You did pot at 14? Damn...

Well still, I'll try to give it a listen when I can since I hear it's well respected on here. Thanks.

>>69190058
not from a good neighborhood initially.

>>69190108
Oh, sorry to hear that. Like I said I'll listen to A.L.S. as soon as I can. Thanks again.

>>69190119
of couse man, try checking out the other pianists i mentioned too. herbies great but hes not even my favorite pianist named herbie. theres a lot of music.

>>69190167
There's other pianists named Herbie?

>>69190176
herbie nichols...all i do is listen to records.

>>69190176
Nichols

>>69189971
what why?

>>69190201
>>69190195
Is he as good as Hancock?

>>69190261
No but he wrote some good music

>>69190290
I'll look that up too. Thanks.

>>69189053
this is supposed to be an underrated jazz thread, not a GOAT jazz thread

>>69189266
Willie bobo is fucking underrated

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