Talentless hack or musical genius?

>>69045129
Genius

hack

jack

talentless genius

>>69045129
musical hack

>>69045129
both

>>69045157
I'd second this.

If anything he was a prime troll. People would go to his shows to hear some of the most talked about music and then he'd play a fucking cactus.

During performances of 4'33 he'd also tease the audience by lifting his hands as if to play the piano only to put them back intp his lap. Audiences were furious, booing, hissing, insulting, and even throwing chairs during his performances.

>>69045129
degenerate and rapist

>>69045255
>not playing the cactus

>>69045255
>he'd also tease the audience by lifting his hands as if to play the piano only to put them back into his lap

Wait, Cage was basically the Andy Kaufman of music? Wtf i love 4'33 now

>>69045255
>booing, hissing, insulting, and even throwing chairs during his performances
punk as fuck

How do into John Cage? Can't find any decent links

>>69045553
I know, it makes me so happy

>>69045570
Listen to nothing.
That's his biggest hit for some fucking reason.

(Yeah I'm on team 'hack' here)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC7t35Jv9uI

what a cool guy

>>69045619
You're so funny

>>69045698
Thank you :)

talented hack

>>69045129
>Musical genius?
Nobody says this. He was a very creative mind, but musically he was mediocre (as a composer / arranger).

>>69045157
This is the best description, although I doubt the "genius" aspect.

>>69045619
It's not "nothing". Read a book.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26K9f8n6ymU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyNGCHImlEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrxs_jnRI1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms70jqdZHzs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epBkVgfoXNk

>>69045790
...Holy fuck. I'm listening to the second song and it's beautiful.

Why did he feel the need to release a song that's nothing?

>>69045870
Art and megalulz

>>69045129
non-musical genius
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>>69045870
A true artist respects the silence that serves as the natural foundation for creativity
>>69045954
piss off

>>69045870
It isn't a song that is nothing. It is an exploration of the limits of music. Music notation has rests in it, the empty spaces between notes are just as significant as the notes. He just took it to the extreme. It questions what music is and it makes people butthurt even though it is only 4 and a half minutes, it is worth releasing for that reason alone. How many hours do you spend listening to manufactured music, how many hours do you spend listening to the natural world.

>>69045870
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_%28negative_space%29

I feel like great experimental composers need to prove themselves in the traditional music style before they move onto something new, like Schönberg for example. He was a very good composer of the late romantism style, but certainly felt the need to move on and so he did.

With Cage I just feel like he suddenly went experimental without any proper background, which kind of is true, given that he utterly despised the concept of harmony, mainly because his teacher said he was bad at it.

>>69046164
>he utterly despised the concept of harmony
I'm pretty sure that this is factually untrue.

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No Cage
No Hampus

musical genius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNzVQ8wRCB0
Is this music?

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>>69045291
>tfw mom said money for cactus lessons was a waste.