will we have good music now that trump is president? protest

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People on /mu/ keep thinking this, but you're forgetting one thing. There are no talented Liberals, and even if they were. It would be Tumblr tier cringe shit.

Shitty Ukulele and Lana Del Rey vocals talking about racism, white people and how we're ruining civilization, despite practically inventing the fucking thing in the first place.

>>69006289
>There are no talented Liberals
I really hope this board isn't this diluded

>>69006236
Just Diapercore. Whiny lefty babies crying and wailing.

>>69006289
>There are no talented Liberals
top zozzle

The next 4-8 years are going to be crazy, that's for sure. You'll most definitely have the protest music, but that'll be pretty shit until there's actually something to protest. It'll all be utter garbage until he starts a war with Russia, or goes full fascist on a crowd of whiny protesters, or doesn't fulfill any of his promises on saving the working class, or does't fulfill any of his promises on fixing "broken" trade agreements, or some other shit, but after that happens, it'll be fucking great.

I'd expect an upswing in the killer mike-esque anti-Reaganomics thing, too, which I'm completely fine with, even if the music itself isn't great. The faster we get that bizarre backwards logic out of this country, the better.

Political music is trash.

Hardcore could potentially do something good. Kinda like with Reagan

>>69006289
This. Liberals are talentless morons who only listen to pop country music.

>>69006289
>practically inventing the fucking thing in the first place.
please don't talk about history unless you have beyond a middle school level education of it

>>69006289
>White people invented civilization
Uh lol

>>69006289
The fact that liberals need weed to make good music is also sad

>>69008556
your existence is sad

>>69006236
Lol no. Hippies in the 60s actually had something legit to protest (being forced to fight in a war for geopolitical interests). What do hipster fags today have to protest over? Illegal immigrants being deported?

Music was shit for years after 9/11, why would this be any different?

>>69006236
conservative music is pretty much contemporary country & gospel

welp I guess now that trump is president we will unironically listen to aldean

>>69008681
wheres my workers revolution tbqh

>>69008681
this

unless there's a draft that's not gonna happen. if anything we might get some Reagan Youth-esque bands.

>>69006236
I've heard this argument before about the potential for great art under Trump, but I'm not sure why everyone's forgetting that we've already had great art made within political turmoil from the last few years alone. Specifically I'm talking about stuff like:

Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly
D'Angelo - Black Messiah
Janelle Monae - Electric Lady
Solange - A Seat at the Table
Jamila Woods - HEAVN

Hell, you could even include Beyonce's Lemonade in that mix. If you're having trouble coping with the prospect of 4 years (minimum) of Trump, I'd suggest listening to any of the above.

>>69008681
Whats worse, full scale land war or 95%+ of your country having downs syndrome?

>>69008871
Also it's worth noting that it's clear the Trump supporters in this thread are only thinking of white musicians. The limits to their political imagination extend to the limits of their cultural imagination and it's very, very sad.

>>69006236
I guess Epitaph by King Crimson is the song that descibes the current affairs best

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>>69006236
A hidden gem.

>>69006289
top zez
every good musician born after 1860 is/was a liberal
prove me wrong (you can't
>inb4 franck 'hack' zappa)

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>>69007303
that's totally wrong though.

>>69006289
Clipping's anti-Mr. Trump song was pretty good even though they were wrong in the end t b h

>>69009715
you're not helping your case

>tfw /pol/'s takeover of 4chin will result in "le cuck" music disappearing from the board

can't wait for daily anime soundtrack and ted nugent threads

>>69008518
civilization as we know it. political idealogies, invention and innovation.

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>>69006236
>implying the trump presidency will be as significant as the vietnam war

>>69009774
>this is what white nationalists actually believe

>>69009759
I already proved my case with my image.

You are wrong. I am right. End of story.

>>69009790
we all came from africa.

>>69009790
damn you win, i lost the argument. sorry

>>69009809
No you didn't.
Gang of Four is better.

>>69009809
Nah dude, I'm not the original anon. I think there's some great political music. you could have picked Gil Scott Heron or protest songs of civil rights campaigners or Woodie Guthrie or the fucking American folk music anthology, but instead you choose a shitty pop punk record.

>>69009835
I did.

>>69009847
AI isn't shitty. It's objectively great and you simply cannot change this.

>>69009774
>who are the Sumerians
>who are the Egyptians
>who are the Greeks
>who are the Romans
>who are the Moors

>>69009875
>civilization only started when america was created!

>>69009769
There is literally nothing wrong with Ted Nugent

>>69009885
what did you mean by this ?

>>69009875
>greeks werent white
>romans werent white
>the others you named contributing to any of the political schools of thought that rule us today

>>69009935
>he actually thinks the romans were white
>he actually thinks "political" schools have completely evolved separately of any nonwhite civilization

Why are neo-nazi's so retarded? Couldn't they at least pick up a history text book?

>>69009935
A lot of Romans were the Turks and Maghrebis of today.
And they were many exchanges between North Africa and Europe at that time since the Greeks and the Egyptians, you can't really imply that a pure white race existed after these.
The Sumerians created the first number system IIRC, and the Moors introduced us to the number system we use today.

there will be more blm-core trash like solange and sites like p4k will force that shit into people even more

only the protest aspect will be there like in the 60s during vietnam or in the 80s during the hardcore punk underground against reagan. but the music? nah, shit doesn't have that intensity, now it's lyrics over content

>>69006289
here's your (you)

I hate liberals but even I admit most talented artists in the modern era have been lefty

>>69006289
>it's an anon has spent too much time on 4chan and has been conditioned to think the word liberal means babbling tumblrina sjw

>>69010069
Everybody I know who plays an instrument these days sucks and the people who are good seem to have no creativity. They just know how to wank or cover Phish songs. I guess that probably has more to do with the people I associate with. But I agree that music needs to take a step away from the literary aspect. Learn to play the instrument well before you pour your gay emotions over 4 chords.

>>69010002
>we wuz romans n shiet
literally everything surrounding you right now was made by a white man. the computer you use, the school you attend, everything. but believing his makes me a neo nazi? why are libshits such sensationalistic babys?

>>69010017
ill give you that. arabs made huge steps during the dark ages while white christians were burning books. but by and large, germans, english, french, and italians gave more to the world than any non whites

>>69010204
Why do you think Western Culture is so much better than Eastern Culture?

>>69006289
Reminder that pretty much every generation thinks the one after them will send the world to hell in a handbasket and it has never actually been the case

>>69010221
probably because whites are just inherently superior

>>69010204
Actually the computer i'm using was made by Asian children so fuck you

>>69010204
>everything in the last 50 years was made by the most economically dominant countries
holy shit give this man an honourary degree

>>69010272
>because whites are just inherently superior
>but believing his makes me a neo nazi?

>>69009011
Lol holy shit get the fuck out of here

I can't wait until this black people trend stops. Then maybe we can all just live our own lives and quit it with this race shit

>>69010318
how did they get economically superior in the first place?

>>69010399
t. straight white man

>>69010407
Oh no, I'm in the majority

I'm a racial normie. Deal with it

>>69010406
like most empires get powerful: violence

>>69010416
>I wish people would stop talking about race
>I'm the NORMAL race, I'm the majority, white power!

>>69010406
Colonialism

>>69010463
Jealous much?

>>69010463
>i live in the western world

>>69010484
Nah, I live in a country with free healthcare, a leader that wasn't voted into power by hate and I live with people who generally get along.

It feels pretty good to be honest.

>>69010509
Whew boy. Your misconceptions about America are very embarrassing. Keep believing what the media tells you

>>69010521
>free healthcare? le media is LYING to you, make america hate again!!!

omg my whole existence is a lie. if only i had some muslims to hate while my social services get stripped away

>>69010545
Again, you don't know what you are talking about

>>69010448
>>69010467
So every white country that is economically successful is only that way because of violence and colonialism? Sweden? Finalnd? Switzerland? Denmark? Czech Republic? Poland? Pretty much all other european countries other than the one you are thinking about (UK). i fucking hate you cognitive dissonant liberals who go to lengths to explain how great non whites are compared to whites because of your pathetic white guilt? the truth is inconvertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.

>>69010277
They didn't invent it.

>>69010621
Yes, that's the reason.

In fact, every non-white empire is successful because of violence.

Perhaps you could drop the victim complex there Himmler.

>>69010595
>he thinks every country in the world envies America

lmao

I'm happy he won.
If you complain about democracy and the election you're a retard.
Sure, be upset that's understandable but don't cry because you didn't get your way

>>69010719
>THE ELECTION IS RIGGED. ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS A SCAM
-t. donald trump, winner of minority vote

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>Loser's music

No thanks.

>>69010700
So if violence is a reason for economical superiority, why is so much of south america and africa such a wasteland of trash and despair? surely that amount of excessive violence would stimulate their economies

>>69010751
because most of the places that you're talking about have been ravaged by colonial european powers until ~50 years ago...?

>>69010621
Denmark had a fucking colonial empire anon
>Pretty much all other european countries other than the one you are thinking about (UK).
Top kek anon. Don't lecture someone on history when you're clearly fuckiny clueless.You should do some reading
> i fucking hate you cognitive dissonant liberals who go to lengths to explain how great non whites are compared to whites because of your pathetic white guilt?
Not a liberal, and I don't feel guilt for something I never did. Just trying to explain the huge impact colonialism had on the development of western Europe. Sounds like you really needed it explained for you, actually. I also don't think non-whites are superior. That'd be dumb. You shouldn't be so trigger happy that you construct a strawman every time someone disagrees with one of your points. It makes you look dumb.
>the truth is inconvertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
lmao

>non music discussions on the music board
fuck off stormfags, keep it in your containment board

>>69009769
the only thing /pol/ took over is /b/'s reputation as baby's first 4chan board

>>69010751
this is about as retarded as someone saying money buys power and you shouting OH YEAH WELL HOW COME MY MANAGER ISNT PRESIDENT THEN!?

>>69010621
Kek are you seriously going to sit here and tell people how to think about western civilization while saying the United Kingdom is the only country that partook in colonialism? How little do you fucking know? Weren't you supposed to learn this shit in high school?

>>69010780
they were ravaged because of their inferiority, which is my original point

>>69010797
such a big post for literally nothing beig said

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>he listens to political music

>>69010859
beig words comin from this guy

>>69010859
Ok anon I'll give you a bit more time to come up with an actual response. Shouldn't take too long considering how little my post said, right?

>>69010621
Dude why do you think they speak Dutch in Aruba? Because they liked the language?

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I've said it before and I've said it again.

White Nationalism and white identity is faaaaaar more anti-establishment and rebellious than anything the mainstream music industry can put out. Any counter-signaling music made against Trump will, in all likelihood, be whiny BLM/SJW garbage.

Basically this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWGA7LOgZa4

>>69007255
>It'll all be utter garbage until he starts a war with Russia, or goes full fascist on a crowd of whiny protesters, or doesn't fulfill any of his promises on saving the working class, or does't fulfill any of his promises on fixing "broken" trade agreements, or some other shit, but after that happens, it'll be fucking great.

So like six months?

>>69010859
>they were ravaged because of their inferiority, which is my original point
Inferiority measured by what, exactly? You're the one who spoke of arabic empires being superior over "whites" in the dark ages. Did race not play in then but only is the deciding factor when it fits your argument?

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prob gonna be a bunch of clones of pic related, with increasingly diminishing returns

>>69010822
You don't visit /tv/ much do you?

>muh colonialism

reminder that asia was subject to european colonialism and is still better off than africa ever was or will be. even fucking vietnam is more successful than 90% of africa.

>>69007255

>It'll all be utter garbage until he starts a war with Russia

Why would he do this?

>>69010930
Putin pretty much got Trump elected so I'd be pretty surprised if Ameirca started a war with Russian.

A war against Assad or Crimeans is more likely desu.

>>69010862
this, unless it's art music

>>69010956
But Africa was a subject to European colonialism too

>>69010956
>why did a region with 2000+ year old empires survive?
>why did the asian empires exposed to european colonialism turn to shit so fast?

>>69010985
then how did asia take so much better to colonialism than africa?

>>69010971
Assad is Russias ally you reatard and the entire reason he's battling for power is because of the US taking advantage of the arab spring and sending in ISIS. If we get russia, than we get syria. If we ally with them, ISIS is gone and than Quatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and any other similar sect government will likely revolt against America and fuck over our oil deals and lead to the UN for support.

As usual, UN wont do anything, neither will NATO and Russia and US can force the oil lords to capitulate or roll over them and fuck em.

ideally.

>>69009935
Nigga you are just writing a debased form of Phoenician.

>>69010204
>the school you attend

Hate to break it to you...

>>69008871
underrated b8

>>69006236

Why has /mu/ been pushing this meme so hard the past few days?

Don't you realize that taking solace in the production of righteous left-wing music in the face of a right-wing government that the musicians don't like is just a spectacular bourgeois entertainment, the anticipatory enjoyment of which just makes you look gauche? The topic of this board aside, if you're a left-leaning person, then shouldn't you above all wish /to actually resist/ such a government, rather than eagerly expecting someone to drop a new Rage Against The Machine debut album commodity?

t. Trump voter

>>69011071
>Bourgeois
>Gauche

You're a fuckin fag and nobody cares

daily reminder liberals should be lined up and shot

>>69011035
Yeah I meant a war w/ Assad, my bad.

>the entire reason he's battling for power is because of the US taking advantage of the arab spring and sending in ISIS
lmao

>If we get russia, than we get syria
wat. trump won't be starting a war with russia

>If we ally with them, ISIS is gone and than Quatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and any other similar sect government will likely revolt against America and fuck over our oil deals and lead to the UN for support.
America and Russia taking sides with the status quo (kek) in the middle east is not going to end the radicalism. This is retarded.

Yes, NATO will do nothing because Trump wants to dissolve NATO.

>>69010719
Democracy is a mistake, an 18th c. constitutional monarchy would be preferable.

>>69010595
Nah anon is pretty on the mark. Don't know how we're falling for this hook line and sinker.

>>69011032
I suppose they weren't hamstrung by the slave trade. Also colonialism in Asia consisted of actual development and trade rather than simply taking resources and shipping back to Europe/selling. They're rather different situations.

>>69011071
this

>>69011087
daily reminder trump is LITERALLY hitler

>>69011071
Do you exist in a world where you either enjoy politically charged music or you personally partake in protests and activism?

Is there not a world where someone could "actually resist" a government AND listen to "le rage against the machine?"

Like, this is as retarded as every person who screams WHY WOULD YOU SIGN A PETITION INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING MEANINGFUL as if those five seconds spent doing something somehow negates any other action.

>>69011084
>hilary supporter calling people fags
looool

>>69011153
>anyone who is left of hitler loves hillary clinton

>>69011165
>hitler is rightwing
looooool

>>69011178
>it's the national SOCIALIST party amirite????
your average trumpite, everyone

Now that Trump is President our country will flourish, entering a golden age of prosperity with renewed vigor, kindling the flame of creativity and ingenuity that has accompanied the great artistic resurgences of the past. I expect music, film and literature will all become great again.

>>69010956
Asian colonialism wasn't even close to the same extent that colonialism in africa was

Not to mention the geography. Barring the obvious locations like Egypt, the place with uninhabitable deserts, rivers that aren't very useful for trade, shitty climate, disease etc.

Also, a lot of African leaders are very very currupt, and this curruption has gone unchecked for pretty much the entire time they've been free from colonialist control. Not to mention all the conflicts and war between various african nations, and genocides and all that. There's also a population crisis in africa

There are a lot of reasons Africa is in such disrepair, and you can't boil it down to "lol nigs are dumb"

Anyways, this is /mu/ not /pol/ or /his/ so shut up

>>69011178
Objectively yes. The socialism part of Nationalist socialism does not make it a left wing ideology

>>69011229
There is not socialist part of nazism.

Just like there's no democratic republic in north korea.

Jesus christ /mu/ is retarded.

>>69011266
That's what I just said anon

Haven't you people seen political music lately? Do you really want that. it'll be all conscious hip hop and punk that even shittier than punk has been in the past which is shitty.

A lot of musicians seem like they don't want to bring politics into music these day. But those that do are blown up by p4k and stuff

>>69011144

What I've correctly done is to point out the absurdity of the aesthetic situation that /mu/ seems to be hoping for, exactly because they enjoyment of such a situation is supposed to entail a genuine disgust at a current governmental situation. But of course, as /mu/ freely admits in several these posts, it is the presence of a Reagan or a Trump that makes the art possible to begin with. Tacit in this is the willingness to actually suffer a Reagan or a Trump, in order to get the resultant oppositional art. But then this paradoxically puts the lie to such a listener's enjoyment of the art after-the-fact, since you're supposed to actually be opposed to the present government on - let's be charitable - genuine principles.

Ironically, a few things are at play here. One is the millenial obsession with "authenticity", and a current generation's nostalgia. The same nostalgia that obliquely conflates hyper-capitalist Japanese spectacle with vague irony, anti-capitalism etc, and calls itself the pomo par excellence "vaporwave", can be said to inform this vague wish to "re-do" the left music of the ~80s and buttressing years on either side of the decade. The first world bourgeois /mu/ browser who has vague left-liberal sensibilities wants to be "authentic" be "re-doing" the 1980s in the face of a right caricature celebrity (Reagan/Trump), but puts the lie to himself in doing so. He becomes an absurdity, the type that thoroughgoing leftists and rightists actually hate.

>>69011316
I got like two sentences into this retarded nonsense before I gave up.

Just saying that I hope you kill yourself to be quite honest. Make sure to finish your homework for Monday, kiddo.

>>69009664

The types of people who were liberal in the past are probably different than who liberals are now.

Liberals of the past kicked ass because they made a point out of offending while not being offended. They were the type of people who are both creative and thick-skinned, wouldn't pull punches as a result in addition to creating ridiculously bombastic and creative music.

Today's liberals are the same type of people who would have been dreadful crazy church people had they been born in the 1930s. Offended by everything and unable to pull effective punches because they can only parrot status quo insults because, deep down, they are afraid of being too mean themselves. It affects the progress of the music itself, too, because they're afraid to experiment radically with any new noises that might offend the ear. In fact, "liberals" being in music and turning into this type of people is why albums have gotten shoddier and why indie rock faggotry took over and dominated everything.

Just look at the type of person who was a popular musician in the past versus these fucking pudgy faggot up-and-comers that wear flannel and glasses, with a doughy face, their soft bellies overflowing their tight fit genes, many with long hair covering one side of their face.

Trump songs will inevitably be boring as a result. I've actually heard a couple and could write edgier and more clever ones myself if I wanted to. This isn't a compliment to myself, either. They are really that bad. Protest music is literally dead senpai.

>>69011470

got damn you're a dumb motherfucker. you're how old?

>>69009715
What happened to my board

Pop punk belongs in the trash

>>69009664
Zappa would have hated Trump. The guy who called Reagan's America a "facist theocracy" would not approve a fucking government with Pence, Giuliani and co.

Like, even if he hated Clinton (and he likely would've), he'd have hated the shit out of Trump. Even the good right wing musicians are not retarded man children.

Trump supporting musicians are pretty much just Ted Nugent and Garth Brooks. Congrats, alt rightists!

>>69011470
>people who oppose racism (i.e. LIBERALS) are just like those crazy church people who were really racist because both parties got offended unlike me, a TRUE alt rightist who definitely never gets triggered when someone criticizes my candidates blatant racism and xenophobia

>I've actually heard a couple and could write edgier and more clever ones myself if I wanted to.
We'd love to hear though, anon. Music is shit and we need heroes like you to write better music than everyone else because you support Trump. Make music great again!

>>69011101

You clearly mis-understood most of my post.

ISIS exists because of US politicians and geo-political interference. Its an irrefutable fact.

>wat. trump wont be starting a war with russia

I didn't say he was. I said (or meant to say) is that an alliance with Russia leads to a truce with Syria.

No, allying with Russia wont end radicalism at all, but it can eliminate much of the main problems.

Use your fucking head and try to look deeper into conflicts and what causes them.

It is entirely possible that we could solve a financial crisis, Russian political strain, ISIS, and internal government corruption in less than 6 months if people would just use their fucking head, and stop acting like a bunch of gay little cliques.

sure hope I greentexted right.

>>69011229
>The socialism part of Nationalist socialism does not make it a left wing ideology

No it doesn't.

Notwithstanding, Hitler himself described his politics as progressivist rather than reactionary. He also advocated a platform of industrialisation and wealth redistribution.

The only difference with Stalin was that he advocated removing a jewish bourgeoise rather than a bourgeoise not delineated by ethnicity.

Ironically the closest thing to contemporary Hitlerism is Zionist Kibutzism

>>69011200
being this spooked

>>69007255
trump wants to be friends with Russia you fucking idiot

>>69011564
This

>>69011755
>It is entirely possible that we could solve a financial crisis, Russian political strain, ISIS, and internal government corruption in less than 6 months if people would just use their fucking head, and stop acting like a bunch of gay little cliques.
It's cute that you actually believe this. Perhaps you ought to take your own advice and us your fucking head, kiddo. Radicals won't disappear in six fucking months because the US bombs the rebels in addition to ISIS.

>>69011847
It doesn't matter how Hitler described his politics or what you claim he advocated for. Hitler was about the state and did NOT nothing redistribute the wealth or destroy class systems. Hitler did not target a Jewish "bourgeoisie," he targeted the Jewish left. Communists were among the first targeted when Hitler got power.

Any categorization of Hitler on the left uninformed and is usually the product of someone with a political agenda.

right wing is about to become the maintstream culture again, 4chan is going to shift hard to the left to counter that

ITT: 17 year olds still in their communist phase

>>69006236
>music from the last few years has been utter shit.
sigh

>>69009935
Why are you so fucking dumb?

>>69009935
>Sumerians
>not the cornerstone of our civilization
oh boy

There was an album of anti-Trump music and it was all shit, so no

>>69006236

Maybe he'll get the jews to stop giving record deals to shit rappers and make mainstream hip-hop great again.

>>69016094
>The US bombs ISIS
Top lel