Bands people pretend to like

Darkthrone.

>>68935650
Music in general

>>68935650
Nirvana and metalica

>>68935710
Not true as far as I know. Why those bands? They're appreciated a lot among normies and some mutants too.

>>68935740
Hes talking about the people who wear nirvana or metalica shirts that have never listened to an their music.

Honestly it's kind of stupid to assume that someone is pretending to like something, they probably just think the shirt looks cool and/or got it for free.

>>68935785
>Hes talking about the people who wear nirvana or metalica shirts that have never listened to an their music.
oh yeah then I get it. joy division falls under the same category

>>68935650
Is that because of the goo shirt? I don't really socialize so I don't know why people would pretend to like Sonic Youth, since their music is pretty accessible.

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>>68935948

>>68935650
Sonic Youth albums are full of filler

As much as I like Sonic Youth, yes, they're one of those bands that people know about and mention but have never listened to. Same goes for Sublime, Fugazi, PJ Harvey and Dinosaur Jr, from my experience.

Also, anything that featured in a TV show or appeared on a t-shirt sold by a popular shop.
Violent Femmes, Joy Division, etc.

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>>68935866
At my job the other day I saw a kid wearing a joy division jacket and told him some like "I love joy division" he was really confused and I had to tell him his jacket had an album by a band called joy division on it. I wanted to die after that.

Pic related it's what he was wearing

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>>68935650

>>68935650
ITT: SY are 2deep4me therefore no one else can like them

>>68936496
Not what was said, or implied. Stop thinking so highly of yourself

>>68936532
stop being such a pleb then

>>68936167
I've seen a lot of people wear this.

>>68936180
They're only pretending if they're wearing a Dark Side of the Moon shirt (I have one, but I actually like Pink Floyd). I wish I had a shirt of the wall though, because it's my favorite of the 4 main concept albums.

>>68936598
>I'm guilty of pretending to like a band so I better post aggressively and defensively in a dramatic display of unwarranted self-righteousness
I'm glad people like you exist, makes me feel better about myself

>>68936633
I have a DSotM t shirt, too. I listen to Pink Floyd and Syd's solo material. Sometimes people just like things, man.

>>68936598
>imbailin

>>68935654
>pretend

Darkthrone is awesome. Posers die.

>>68935698
this

Death Grips

>>68936776
What gives you the impression that people who like death grips are faking it? Has anyone else ever been perplexed by music that you like and thought that you're pretending to like it?

>>68935654
I don't even like black metal and I love Darkthrone.

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every band you can really think of

>>68935650
Radiohead, Tim Hecker, My Bloody Valentine and even Bob Dylan>>68935650

>>68935650
Anything Zappa has done.

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>>68935785
The Misfits deserve some fucking crown for that shit, There's countless people out here with some kind of crimson ghost shirt/pin/whatever without having the slightest idea of who the misfits are.

>>68935698
you're on my level

I prefer wordless mostly. smooth classical jazz, or classical. stuff that bring a nice ambient sound

AC/DC

terrible all around. but so bad its good. which means we're all pretending.

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All of these
>Led Zeppelin
>Nirvana
>Jimi Hendrix
>David Bowie
>The Misfits
>Metallica
>Sublime
>Red Hot Chili Peppers

Worst of the worst is pic related.

In my country (at least from what I have seen) people wearing joy division or misfits shirts is really uncommon. The most popular band shirts here are the ramones, ac/dc, led zeppelin, and other dadrock shirts.

I know a lot of girls from here who wear Ramones shirts, know it's a band that they don't like, but just can't seem to give two shits about it.

>>68937030
Strange. I like all the bands you listed, but I'm not too keen on the smiths save for a few songs of theirs

I love these fucking threads where people shit on normies, since I am a huge edgelord contrarian faggot with no friends.

>>68937038
The ramones here are fucking everywhere on shirts of people who don't know who they are but the misfits are probably like second place. A lot of people don't even know these are bands or they just have some counterfeit t shirt whit some shit instead of the band's name written on it.

>>68937070
Which shirts are popular is not decided by some kind of monolith, of course you would like some things that are popular but not others.

>>68937073
Don't talk so lowly of yourself, mate. We here at 4chan.org love you

>>68937095
it's okay dude i enjoy it

>>68937093
Shirts? I'm referring to the bands

>>68937112
oh no i an retard sry

there's tons of legitimate sonic youth fans where I live (not in the US)
don't know how you came to that conclusion senpai

> implying the average /mu/tant knows any people

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>>68935650
I agree somewhat. DN is tight though.

GLOSS is a definitive example; sjws ignore how shitty all their music is, and just keep praising how "crucial" and "awesome" they are.

>>68936633
I saw some guy walking around campus wearing a dsotm shirt and i said good choice, great band. He didn't know who pink floyd was.

>>68936776
Holy shit this. So much this.

Death grips are ear shatteringly awful and anyone who """""likes""""" them is either memeing or lying or retarded.

>>68939012
>I don't like it so how can anyone possibly?
People don't pay to go see liveshows of bands they don't like. No band is succesfull without having an actual, unironic audience.

>>68939096

t. Death grips """""fan"""""

>>68939096
human psychology makes it easy to convince yourself that you like things you don't like, based on various influences

>>68935650
any free jazz and avant garde jazz artist

>>68938914
i believe those girls have moral dilemmas about fucking a conservative chad and not fucking them because fucking them would make them feel like they betrayed liberalism.

>>68939145
>>68939179
Do you guys seriously believe this...? That every death grips fan has somehow magiccally convinced himself that the music is good...? Because Fantano told them or something...?

Has anyone ever bitched to you about how loveless sounds like just some random noise?
You are sounding about as ignorant as that.

I don't even like death grips that much, I just think it's stupid to think that nobody who says they like any given succesfull band is sincere.

>>68939209

Are you telling me people don't genuinely like what amounts to 8 year olds beating on instruments?

>>68939096
this

>>68939370
nah i'm the second guy and i agree with you on your last point. i'm just saying that there's a lot of high schooler death grips fans who probably only "like" them because their friends have convinced them it's cool and edgy to do so.

Burzum of course

>>68939410
>i'm just saying that there's a lot of high schooler death grips fans who probably only "like" them because their friends have convinced them it's cool and edgy to do so.
Oh yeah I can see that. But that's not liking the music, that's liking the image. (though your point is ofcourse that those teens don't admit that)

>>68936167
I'm conflicted because toy machine is one of my favorite skate brands but any derivative of the joy division shirt is automatically trash.

>>68936158
>Netflix brought me here xDDD

>>68935650
>The Clash
>2pac
>Daft Punk

AnCo

>>68935963
sadly :/

get real though they were one of the most important rock of 90 guitar bands. One of my co workers listens to 90s rock
>i know its a little cheesy but i just like it
that cool but she had no idea who sonic youth were and that kinda depressed me.

>>68936158
>appeared on a t-shirt sold by a popular shop.
>Joy Division
it's even worse than that, Joy division shirts perpetuate the meme but the meme really started when the guy offed himself now his music is perceived as inherently deep. Honestly sit down and listen to Joy Division. its not the worst music ever but it sounds like really bored people who didn't really have any ideas

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Death Grips.

I think they're the only "current" band who actually push the creative boundary and because of /mu/ popularity, assholes memerap lovers and Reddit tourists pretend to like them (or like them, but do not appreciate them) and contrarians hate them because of false fandom. I blame Fantano's retarded following.

>>68938914
GLOSS are awful. I agree completely. I also think Sleater Kinney are overrated as fuck.

>>68937070
It's not about whether you like them or not. It's about most people's relations to them. I feel like those bands are effectively just logos on shirts now. People buy a Smiths shirt because it looks cool and they thought
>"How Soon is Now' is awesome
Although it sounds nothing like the rest of their catalog.

>>68936975
some people wearing that stuff thought misfits was some kind of clothing brand, i'm serious

>>68937030

> tfw I wore Led Zeppelin t-shirts every day in high school, but I actually listened to them the second most of all bands (aside from Siouxsie)

>>68943991
This

>>68943991
>death grips
>push the creative boundary
Typical rap beats and lyrics that are LITERAL nonsense. Truly rap is a kiddie pool of musical depth if death grips is considered to be "creative". If they are pushing any kind of creativity its seeing how much money can be made off of hipsters who listen to trash just to be different.

Death grips are basically just if El-p and A-f-r-o made an album together. Wait the beats aren't as good as el-p's and the black faggot in deathgrips has a quarter of the flow a-f-r-o does.

>>68935650
>eat me

well, kim, if you want to

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>>68943991
>the only "current" band who actually push the creative boundary
holy shit

>>68944496
name one other band who aren't doing something that's already been done

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>>68944559
>Death grips
>who aren't doing something that's already been done
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>68943282
Eh, I get where you're coming from, and I do think that Ian's suicide has given them a status that they wouldn't otherwise have (which, along with the whole "tortured artist" shit annoys the hell out of me), but they were pretty fantastic too. I don't get the "bored" bit at all.

>>68944599
good job dodging my question
opinion discarded

>>68938914
the one on the left is supposed to be a woman?

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>>68944623
>I believe death grips are doing something never been done before
>I should be taken seriously
Pick one

>>68944646
yes, i believe that's true
go ahead and quote me with a reaction image
you're worse than the retard sect of dg
fandom, you do realise this?

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>>68944693
>yes, i believe that's true
>go ahead and quote me with a reaction image

>>68944559
>>68944623
saying death grips are the only current band pushing creative boundaries is literally saying you know nothing about music save for what /mu/ shoves up your ass.

>>68944718
Implying death grips are even pushing any creative boundaries.

>>68944718
please enlighten me on who you consider are a more creative modern band, I'm all ears

good false equivalency btw
really got me good, because I definitely don't have better taste and knowledge of music that you

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>>68944718
>>68944646
>>68944599
>>68944496
>it's a "quote statement and reply with reaction images instead of actually producing a real argument" episode

>>68944559
>>68943991
>hurr hurr lets rap over noise
>pushing creative boundaries

In that case, screaming and breaking a leg over noise is pushing twice as many creative boundaries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovrrZ03RcGM

>>68944795
you have no idea what you're talking about

the fact that you think the instrumentals as "noise" proves how little experience you have in music, it's as if you're my granddad

>>68944795
>noise

have you listened to any of their music?

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>>68943991
>>68944795
>Its a "state random opinion without any real argument that is completely false and then get mad when not taken seriously" episode

>>68944856
tu quoque

>>68935650
Thurston Moore and other guy are some of the best guitarists even but Him and the girl never got good at singing. Some of the songs are doubt I say good vocally but I can't even listen to The Sprawl.

>>68944856
replied to wrong people kek

>>68944794
>>68943991
is what I ment

>>68944868
see >>68944876

>being concerned about this

yall so ridiculous

>>68936975
No band embodies the term "sellout" more than the Misfits. If you wear a Misfits shirt, that's the last thing you are. Normies wear Misfits shirts.

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>mfw Death Grips have legit made their living by making joke fart music for six years because faggots eat it up and call it avant garde

>>68944856
dude there are tons of articles and probably books about death grips' music and how it's pretty unique and boundary-pushing. and you can reply with "muh Dalek" and how it's supposedly been done before them, but the fact is most music critics agree that it's original

>>68936167
yeah, but it's skate shirt, if he were wearing a joy division band shirt and didn't know who they were that would be a problem.

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>>68944925
>dude there are tons of articles and probably books
>I can produce no real argument of my own but instead tell you to go read music (((reviewers))) and simply realize that because there are articles and possibly even books (I dont even know thus showing I have not even bothered to do any research myself.) about deathgrips, they are clearly original creative boundary pushing musicians.

>>68944914
>being this out of touch

>>68945027
>being this gullible
face it, genius, you've been played

>>68945023
my god you're an idiot. i just said my argument. i think it's original because i've never heard it done before.

if you can give me an example of music that sounds exactly like death grips, then you've refuted my argument. if you can't, my argument is correct

>>68945023
music is subjective

>>68945104
>It's original!
>I've never heard it, that means it's good!

Not that guy, just scrolling through your stupid bullshit

>>68945104
>if you can give me an example of music that sounds exactly like death grips
not him, but there are plenty of dg copycats and one can argue about dalek or other industrial hip hop acts (that aren't really comparable)

i asked someone early who they think is a better/more creative modern band and the question was ignored for obvious reasons

>>68945152
no one in the thread mentioned originality for the sake of originality

>ITT: Artists I genuinely enjoy
Am I faker? Should I kms?

>>68943282
new order is 20x better than the shit they were doing as joy division.

>>68945023
you're not producing an argument either just wailing about your opinion and misquoting people

and music can't be objectively argued over, so your argument baiting is just making you look like an imbecile

>>68945104
>>68945190
>Death grips are original because I say so
>I cannot show any reasoning other than: "xd find me a band that is literally the exact same as death grips"

What exactly does death grips do that is even original famalams? Because the beats aren't and the rapper sure as fuck isnt. Maybe you guys are just new to music and have never heard a DUDE NONSENSE LYRICS LMAO rapper or any beats that aren't ordinary generic rap beats.

>>68945307
>reasoning
this is music
see >>68945120 >>68945265
two posts you've completely ignored because you want to continue pretending there's an objective argument happening

>>68945152
literally everyone was arguing that it wasn't original. i said nothing of the quality

>>68945307
how are the beats not original? the production sounds very different from other experimental hip hop acts i've heard, even industrial hip hop stuff sounds different.

mc ride has a pretty distinctive voice so idk who else you've heard that sounds like him either

but i'm guessing you guys are just talking out of your ass because you dislike the band

>>68945338
>I cannot explain what makes something original
>I cannot explain even a single part of music because "its subjective xd"
>there are common techniques or ideas in music because everything is subjective xd

>>68945391
>mc ride has a pretty distinctive voice
So eazy e was a creative boudary pushing rapper too?

>how are the beats not original
There are literally so many beats that are the same from before death grips was even a thing. Heres an example that even has rapping over it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgVlyrupu34 wooooooooow its from 2009 before death grips was even active.

>>68945046
oh come now

>>68945509
mistake, i meant
>there aren't common techniques or ideas in music because everything is subjective xd

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>>68935681

Obvious bate is obvious.

So the main arguments against Death Grips are:
>it's just noise!
>just random bleep bloops over an angry shouting black man!
>these lyrics make no sense!

This board has gone to complete shit, my god. It's like an army of annoying preteen Mike Love's.

>>68945509
Yes. Music is subjective. I didn't stutter. If if I were to somehow create an objective argument for the creative originality of Death Grips, even you would resort to "music is subjective" because it is.

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>>68945573
>I cannot explain what makes something original
>I cannot explain even a single part of music because "its subjective xd"
>there aren't common techniques or ideas in music because everything is subjective xd

>>68945616
please create an original argument for your reason behind why you Death Grips is bad then, please

>>68936984
Guess what? You're a huge faggot. Congratulations.

>>68945639
early swans is goat, get outta here

>>68945616
>>68945661
or rather not original
an argument you create as a strawman

>>68945509
>Death grips are original but I wont respond to the fact that there are many similar artists to deathgrips from before they were even active such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgVlyrupu34 as >>68945509 posted.

>>68945661
>>68945695
There was never even a discussion about "is death grips good or bad?" It was always about if they were original or not. Which they fucking aren't and only newfags who havent listened to enough music think that, see above.

>>68935650
they're actually my favorite band

>>68945717
Man I really gotta get some sleep, im literally replying to wrong people every fucking post.

meant
>>68945573
not
>>>68945509

>>68945756
maybe you're actually just an idiot

>>68945784
Gonna ignore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgVlyrupu34 for another post? I can find some more "death grips before death grips existed" bands if you dont like that one

>>68945799
blackie doesn't sound like death grips
you've never listened to death grips

>>68945835
So your incapable of hearing extreme similarities? Must be great, every single band made must be the freshest most original shit to hit the recording studio for you.

>>68945876
they're similar in style, but they aren't comparable

>>68945799
not in this fight but blackie's beats are shit

>>68945899
>Industrial beats
>ebin yelling man who raps over said beat
>not comparable

>>68938998
a guy on my campus had a dstm hat on and the same thing happened.

>>68945717
>There was never even a discussion about "is death grips good or bad?" It was always about if they were original or not. Which they fucking aren't and only newfags who havent listened to enough music think that, see above.
See your own post >>68945616

>>68945928
go to bed grandpa

I always assumed Gerogerigegege, even though I've never listened to a single thing they've made

every noise album ever

>>68945936
Industrial style beats with an ebin yelling style of delivery, wooooow its so hard to explain what they are. Wait someones already done that combo before? I guess that means they arent original now doesnt it. Man explaining things sure is hard.

>>68945954
Not an argument

>>68945975
you don't know anything about music, dude

>>68945968
personally i like listening to noise as i hurt myself

>>68945998
edgy

as someone who has actual depression you attention seekers really fucking annoy me

>>68945991
Dam you sure proved me wrong

>>68946033
neither did you to me
and thanks for noticing

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>>68946022
>>68945998

>>68935785
>>68935710
Metallica is one of the most hated on bands out there you dolton. Iron Maiden is a better example.

I'll throw in Wu Tang too. A lot of people wear it and think they are cool but don't know them for shit. They're both still good though.

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Half of people here pretend to like it because Scaruffi told them to do so, this shit is physically painful to listen

>>68946051
I state exactly how they are similar, you reply with "you don't know anything about music, dude" lmao. Now I know what to do every time I get btfo on /mu/, just ad hom and Ive won.

>>68946084
you're wrong because they don't sound the same
if you knew anything about music you'd be able to tell, but you don't

>>68937030
Who pretends to like Metallica in this day and age?

If anything people pretend not to.

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>>68946130
>no actual point on how they are different
>another ad hom that I dont know anything about music
>"if you were autistic like me you would know they dont sound the same"

>>68946175
you haven't listen to enough music to be able to differentiate them, therefor they sound the same to you

>>68946196
>you haven't listen to enough music to be able to differentiate them, therefor they sound very different to you
wew lad is ad hom this easy? Ive should have always done this from the start

>>68946223
you have, ad hominem is the basis for your nothing argument

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I love when retard hipsters come to /mu/ and proclaim death grips as these genre inventing creative masterminds when literally tons of dudes before them did nearly the exact same style. https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Industrial%20Hip%20Hop/4

>>68946255
I state exactly how they are similar, you reply with "you don't know anything about music, dude" lmao. Now I know what to do every time I get btfo on /mu/, just ad hom and Ive won..

>>68946297
i love when retard hipsters come to /mu/ and proclaim that every industrial or experimental hip hop group sound the same when they don't even realise they're actually too musically illiterate themselves to tell the difference

>>68946338
Creative master minds that can easily be placed next to other people in a genre that has defined similarities. Really makes you think

>>68946327
yes you presented your opinion and I don't agree with you
it's so hilarious how much you can't get a grasp on the concept of subjectivity

>>68939096
>unironic
Not true at all

>>68946380
>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>etc

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>>68946389
>I dont agree with objective traits

>>68946496
>objective
no, they're fucking not
you're literally making your own definitions on what music is

>>68946492
>creative boundary pushing music
>it is similar to other music within a specific genre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before.

>>68946545
>>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>etc

>>68946492
>creative boundary pushing music
>it is similar to other music within a specific genre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before..

>>68946576
>>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>etc

>>68946531
>Industrial/noise style beats with a dude who has a yelling style of vocals.
>this isnt an objective trait

>>68946588
>creative boundary pushing music.
>it is similar to other music within a specific genre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before.

>>68946598
>>this isnt an objective trait
Correct, because that's your subjective interpretation, oh sorry, I need to compensate myself because you don't grasp that concept...

>>68946610
>>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>etc

>>68946614
>an objective trait
>its subjective
kek

>>68946630
>creative boundary pushing music.
>it is similar to other music within a specific subgenre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before.

>>68946634
>I'm reinventing music to win an internet argument that i'm losing!
>[damage control]

>>68946647
>>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>etc

>>68946073
This album is praised for a reason. Listen to it again. It's unironically my favorite album of all time. Of course, it helps if you like avant-garde stuff beforehand

>>68946648
>an objective trait within a musical genre
>reinventing music

>>68946682
>whatever I think is similar is an objective trait

>>68946671
>creative boundary pushing music
>it is similar to other music within a specifiic subgenre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before.

>>68946699
>>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>etc

>>68946698
>Objectivity similar styles
>its not objective because i say so

>>68946717
>creative boundary pushing music
>it is similar to other music within a specifiic subgenre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before.

>>68946718
>styles of music are objectively similar
>music
>objective

>>68946744
>>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>etc

>>68946753
>common techniques and sound of music arent objective

>>68946771
>creative boundary pushing music
>it is similar to other music within a specifiic subgenre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before.

>>68946778
No because they're "common" not "objectively similar".
By your logic all music would sound exactly the same because they all follow a similar style.

>>68935654
Darkthrone doesn't even like Darkthrone

>>68946796
>>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>etc

>>68946672
the thing is that im pretty open minded to every genre and I "get" most albums at first or second listen, but i tried twice and i just dont get what is so appealing, it made me laugh in a good way like once or twice but that's it

>>68946815
By you logic all music sounds completely different. If they they fit into a single subgenre they are not pushing any creative boundaries. You can say they are creative within their small tightly defined subgenre but you cannot say they are creatively boundary pushing.

>>68946826
>creative boundary pushing music
>it is similar to other music within a specifiic subgenre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before.

>>68944277
>some people wearing that stuff thought misfits was some kind of clothing brand, i'm serious

They are basically a clothing brand these days. They haven't made actual music since like... 1983.

>>68946865
>By you logic all music sounds completely different
It does. There are just common traits. Not objectively similar ones.

>If they they fit into a single subgenre they are not pushing any creative boundaries.
They push creative boundaries in terms of contemporary popular music, which isn't a small tightly defined subgenre.

>>68946882
>>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>etc

>>68946925
Contemporary popular music is not a genre nor does it have any boundaries to push. It literally is just "music that is popular". Death grips is 100% industrial rap which is a tightly defined genre you fukin dip, if they were the first ones to make industrial rap then they would be creative boundary pushers, but they aren't. Which means they just followed in the footsteps set up before them.

>>68946946
>creative boundary pushing music
>it is similar to other music within a specifiic subgenre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before.

>>68947021
I never mentioned anything about genres. You did.
My original point (>>68943991) is that they're the only current band that create music that push the creative boundary. No mention of a genre here.

>>68947045
>>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>etc

>>68947021
not the anon you're talking to but we should probably stop with this fetishistic originality nonsense. There's more to art than being original.

Also, on a side note, I think Insane Clown Posse is industrial rap. Albeit shitty rap mixed with shitty, 90s-style Detroit industrial, but industrial rap nonetheless. Seriously... listen to this song and imagine it without the vocals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRgaTC9EFAs

>>68947056
And as Ive already said, if it fits into a genre which is a set of objective traits shared between similar bands, it isnt creative boundary pushing music.

>>68947076
>creative boundary pushing music
>it is similar to other music within a specifiic subgenre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before

>>68947113
There is no such thing as an objective trait in music. I already gave you that lesson. You put my point within the context of it being within it's genre to make your argument easier, but it was never about it's genre to begin with. It was mostly about current music.

>>68947145
>>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>etc

>>68938914
the only reason anyone doesn't actually like gloss but likes hardcore is cause they're trans phobic as fuck, fuck off

>>68947146
>There is no such thing as an objective trait in music

This is true.

In other news, Behemoth is my favorite country/bluegrass band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4vy83_zgvg

>>68947146
Current music? You mean "popular music", which is literally just another way of saying music that is popular. I mean sure buddy its creative because no other industrial rapper really got that famous. Yea that makes sense.

So if I invented electricty but didnt because famous or popular as you would say. Then someone 50 years later did the exact same thing by copying me but became famous, he was the creative one not me. Top kek

>>68947162
>creative boundary pushing music
>it is similar to other music within a specifiic subgenre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before

>>68936799
because their music is complete garbage

>>68935710
>Nirvana
Unironically my favourite band.

>Metallica
Liked them when I was 13. Now I think they're eh.

Neither of the bands you picked are "le patrician arthouse look at me I'm so cool" type music. You may get a few posers thinking they're hard that are into metallica but they're a dime a dozen.

>>68947209
gloss is bullshit identity activism dressed up as derivative d-beat. only people without enough taste to determine good punk from bad think this way.

>>68936167
>68935866
Toy Machine is a skate company dude he prolly didnt give a shit

>>68947224
>Current music? You mean "popular music", which is literally just another way of saying music that is popular
Yes, I mentioned that before.

>I mean sure buddy its creative because no other industrial rapper really got that famous.
That's where your dreaded subjectivity comes in. I think Death Grips is better and more creative than most industrial/experimental hip hop.

>So if I invented electricty but didnt because famous or popular as you would say. Then someone 50 years later did the exact same thing by copying me but became famous, he was the creative one not me. Top kek
Being the originator of something doesn't make you better than it's influence, and I'm pretty sure Death Grips wasn't influenced by the genre of industrial hip hop, maybe Techno Animal because they did a track with the bug.

>>68947320
this.

if you're not fighting for economic justice, you're not fighting for justice, you're fighting for attention

>>68947240
>>rock has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>techno has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>jazz has defined similarities so they're all the same
>>etc

>>68947340
fucking dumbest statement of the year goes to this dingus!

>>68947350
>!

reddit

>>68947330
>Being the originator of something doesn't make you creative
>Doing the exact same thing but slightly better than others makes you creative
Solid logic there friend, also stop trying to make this about whos better or not, its about if they are creative or not, try to stay on target here lad.

>I'm pretty sure Death Grips wasn't influenced by the genre of industrial hip hop
>I can say this because I know death grips personally and know exactly every band they have ever listened to.
top kek

>>68947347
>creative boundary pushing music
>it is similar to other music within a speciific subgenre where other people have already come up with the basic idea before

>>68944871
please be b8
please

>>68939373
y-yes

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>>68947463
>reducing all music to a "basic idea" so that nothing is creative.

>>68948127
Nice B8

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>>68936167
he probably was like
>ehh uhmm Joy Division yeahh... ackchyually... uhmmm whatever dude

>artful shitpost baiting of death grips
>butthurt death grips fans counter false surface arguments of originality and genre, implying that all dg has contributed is industrial hip hop

all you faggots too dumb to get the real point of DG which is taking the ideal of power in an MC to the extreme and giving a frontman who indulges in raw ego and abusing things for his gain. that ain't part of industrial rap or funny sounding beats. argue about aesthetic similarities all you like, but anyone who comes close to "understanding" DG clearly gets that the character of Ride is probably the core tenent of what makes them interesting. yes, you can find lots of surface similarities particularly with instrumentals (no shit everythings been done before, fuckers have been ripping off and doing shit better for years) but if you're missing the fact that the real "achievement" wasn't an aesthetic sound or genre work

>>68947209
You shouldn't have expected anything less from /mu/tants

>>68935654
U wat mate?

>>68949899
true

>>68938914
I remember listening to an album of theirs on bandcamp and liking it before I knew they dressed like gays. I dont remember any agenda pushing in the music. Way better than that Perfect Pussy band.

>>68935650
>Bands people pretend to like
>Post a band universally praised by critics and beloved by indie rock fans
Believe it or not, lots of people genuinely love SY. Especially Daydream Nation, which literally everyone over the age of 14 who gives a shit about music has probably heard.

>>68936158
violent femmes where?

>>68936633
I have the paper mask from the 1990 the wall concert in berlin. that would make a sweet shirt design

>>68947209
nah you're wrong gloss is shit

>>68936975
What the fuck, I just noticed that I've seen many people in "Mistfits" clothes just didnt pay attention cause I dont listen to them
>>68944252
I always thought the different way, people either truly love The Smiths because of relatable lyrics and pleasant music or really hate them cause of Morrissey and "boring" music. I don't think plebs consider Smiths as "cool" brand maybe back in 80's but not now

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>>68936984

>>68949899
This.

If Swans or Death Grips or whomever /mu/ likes released an album in support of BLM or women's rights, /mu/ would suddenly hate the music.

/mu/ only preaches the separation of art and the artist/politics when they listen to right wing music.

>>68954880
honestly this

>>68935650
>muh guitar music is shit

Kya

>>68952894
I've know people who don't like The Smiths only because Morrissey is vegan, seriously.

>>68955166
Was about to say he's only vegetarian before a Wikipedia search - he's actually levelled up... still like his music.

>>68936884
Get Tim outta there!