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Is there anything left to do with music? Has humanity already

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Is there anything left to do with music? Has humanity already mastered music to it's fullest?
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10 bad bitches in a mansion
Wrists on milly rock them diamonds on me dancin
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wlhy don't you wait and see silly
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imagine a color you've never seen before
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>>68864714

Yeah it doesn't exist I guess
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>>68864587
we're probably getting close, desu
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Anyone who thinks this doesn't know anything about music, not surprising for /mu/.
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>>68864857

The problem is that I know too much about music, and it's all been done before. There's nothing meaningful left to do.
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A new era just began, my friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfYnvDL0Qcw
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>>68864956
an oldfag music nerd I know IRL thinks the same thing. I was unable to come up with a genre he hand't heard of or heard something very close to.

But honestly, we could stop making new music RN and still have many lifetimes worth to explore so suck it up
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>>68865021

I hate this
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>>68864956
Holy shit dude that's patently false.

>>68865042
I'm a music nerd and I've been playing music for well over a decade. New genres generally aren't predicted by people. Most people in the 50's could never have prevented hip hop.
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>>68865096
good news everyone!
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>>68865042
predicted*
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>>68864956
so youve sorted through all the classical music of the 20th century and understand every new concept that was introduced by single pieces then never exlored by anyone else? Pretty impressive bro

The real work has just begun in all seriousness. We finally dealt with the problem of not having access to pretty much everything ever recorded and now we can piece together the puzzle.

Or you can just be a huge faggot and say its all been done. Every generations says this and theres always geniuses who prove em wrong. Reminder that Beethoven heard Mozart and Haydn and thought it had all been done
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>>68865117
If you honestly think all music genres have been invented you have no business talking about music.
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>>68864587
Not even close.
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>>68865135

Well there's another point I should state, just because you can do something with music doesn't mean you should. I do believe we've stressed all we could meaningfully achieve with music, noise and all.
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Music evolves as technology and instrumentation evolve... This'll probably lead to the theory of music and what sounds good changing over time...
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>>68865293

There's only so much that technology can open up for musical possibility, and I think we've stretched out to the limit already regarding technology
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there isn't really enough shrek-based banjo music. that genre has a lot of room to grow
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I haven't heard a jazz punk album that liberally users electronic noise as well as a saxophone.
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>>68866439
>what is nowave
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>>68865270
ironically, "meaningful" is meaningless in this context
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Yep. The 20th century literally explored every inch of music down to pure silence and walls of harsh noise. There is nowhere to go from that. There hasn't been a real new genre since the 80s (no, mixing styles up is not innovation, nu-metal and pop punk are not innovative or explorative)
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>>68864587
This what people have said about everything forever.

I bet the first farmers thought they'd reached the pinnacle of engineering
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Innovation in music ended in the late 90's.

No new forms of music have emerged since then.

Everything since then has just been derivative rehashed imitations of more innovative music done by better artists.
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>>68864587

>the vast majority of music produced today is 4/4 12-tone ABABCB
>"we've totally done everything that can be done, holy shit we're an awesome species."
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There were new developments in music at least every five years since the end of WWII. Yet there has not been a single new development in music that isn't derivative older things with a new coat of paint.
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>>68867177

Starting this century, I mean.
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>>68867116
this

Holy shit there's a lot of dumbasses itt
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There is lots to explore and lots is being explored but the music industry likes to perpetuate this meme that we've seen it all so they can continue manufacturing the same generic pop with few complaints
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>>68865021
Jew-Ska is not new.
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>>68864587
there's a hundred million ways to say the same thing bruh, until we can't come up with a way to say something that hasn't been said in living memory, music will strive on
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>>68867233
>r&b
>rock music in the 60's
>hip hop in the late 70's
>disco
>electronic music
You add the changing face of pop music over the last century and you're done.
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>>68867299
>listing electronic music as a genre
>knowing what you're talking about
pick one
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>>68867320
....aaaand you can't come up with a legitimate argument to refute anything I said. Gotcha.
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>>68867363
cool deflection I'll use that one next time
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>this thread

It's this kind of thinking that didn't lead us into new genres of music
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>>68867370
>I can't refute what he said with a legitimate argument
>I'll just say I won
lol, I guess you're done then?
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>>68865021
When did this start getting meme'd again? So dang catchy.
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We've barely even scratched the surface of what is possible with sound and anyone who argues differently is too stupid to realize how little they know. Even things that seem to be pretty universally "figured out" like pitch are overly simplified approaches that encompass merely a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of what we could be writing.

>>68867320

Was that listed as a genre? Pretty clear to me that it was intended as a historic introduction of a variety of genres, especially since the same applies to "rock music" and "hip hop" neither of which you jumped on for some reason.
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>>68864697
This was the second comment and there are still people arguing in this thread.
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still waiting on progressive dreamfunk
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>>68867403
>needs someone to explain to him why thinking "electronic music" describes a genre is wrong

>>68867469
rock and hip-hop are at least macro genres. "electronic music" is basically as precise a descriptor as "non-electronic music"
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>>68867525
"non-electronic music" is precise descriptor. It would describe non-electronic music.
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>>68867481
>progressive dreamfunk
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>>68867525
I'll take that as a "yes" then. Thanks.
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>>68867549
non-electronic music is my favourite genre
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>>68867631
mine too. what a kawinkidink
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>>68867631
As opposed to:
>electronic music is my favorite genre
lol, this is how stupid you sound. Because no one would know what that basic descriptor would mean according to your logic.
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my favourite music genre is audio music
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>>68867525

In historical terms is serves relevance because "electronic music" didn't exist in any form until very recently. "This is when a whole bunch of new things started happening" is pretty noteworthy in a discussion about new things happening. Are you being deliberately dense or are you actually that stupid?
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>>68867708
lol, please try to stay on your original argument, dummy. You claimed that electronic music wasn't a genre of music. Here's the post you need to reply to >>68867696.
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>>68867816
Those two phrases are equally meaningless, yes. Neither describe anything about the music that a genre is meant to describe.
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This is why nobody in your life takes anything you say seriously.
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>>68867969
>electronic music is my favorite genre of music
>the descriptor "electronic" doesn't describe anything about the music
Oh wow, this is hilarious. Please keep 'em comin', dummy.
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>>68868044
So you don't know what a genre is. Glad we identified the source of the confusion.
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>>68868078
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popular_music_genres
Alright, "I was just pretending", I'm bored so we're done now. Better threads to be in, smarter people to talk to.

Enjoy your last (you).
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which is the better genre?

French music
or
Italian music

they're genres because i found an adjective that can umbrella the music together even though there are no actually meaningful common threads

>>68868161
>"subgenres"
>it's actually a huge list of unrelated macrogenres and their subgenres
your image works against you thanks
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>>68864587
Music has been stagnated for as long as I've been alive. I was born in 1998
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>>68868161
>Better threads to be in, smarter people to talk to.
>Enjoy your last (you).
i dont think I have ever seen anyone lay waste to someone like this on /mu/ before. well done sir
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>>68868161
R E K T
E
K
T
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>>68868161
Savage
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>>68868161
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>>68868161
This is the way you do it /mu/. You lure a moron in, give him just enough rope to hang himself, and then you sit back and enjoy the show. Bravo Anon, well played.
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>>68867320
>listing electronic music as a genre
>>68868161
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_popular_music_genres
ouch
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>>68868161
what did he mean by this
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>>68868161
we called this a killshot in syria
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>>68864956
Really /mu/? You just let this comment slide?

>The problem is that I know too much about music
This sounds like something written by a 13 year old who isverysmart. Unless you're older than 50, there's no possible way you could know "too much about music" and know that "it's all been done before".

Someone who thinks they know everything, always, without fail, knows very little, if anything at all. Arrogance and pretension are hallmarks of the uninitiated and ignorant.
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>>68868161
>List_of_popular_music_genres
>Electronic
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>>68868161
Include me in the screenshot
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>>68868161
...damn
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>>68868161
huh. who would have thought electronic music was actually a genre?
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>>68868161
>dat brutal takedown
jfc brah have you no mercy
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>>68868161
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>>68868161
I'm glad I opened this thread
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>>68868161
This is why I always come back to 4chan.
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>>68868161
>Enjoy your last (you).
that felt final
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>>68868161
>fatality.wav
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>>68868161
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>>68868161
I don't know if the guy was actually stupid or just trolling but this was so satisfying to read through.
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>>68864956
That's retarded and so are you
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>>68868161
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Throbbing Gristle/SPK inspired Industrial Death Metal.

Think the fucked up love children of Leichenschrei and DoA: The Third and Final Report raping Tomb of the Mutilated and ND's Scum album in an abandoned, rusty, gunky ass Detroit car manufacturing facility.
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>>68868078
>>68868078
(you) got rekt
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>>68867048
Hip Hop is continuing to grow, and is like rock where it is a blank enough slate to paint into any picture.
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Art isn't about the individual objects within the medium (colour, sound, noun, etc), it's about the combinations and interrelations between them

Art can be infinitely expressive
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>>68869727
>music
>art
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>>68869757
Why are you even here if this is your opinion?
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>>68866439
Herbie Hancock? XD
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>>68864587
Music is subjective so there will always been new and exciting popular music
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>>68864587
the answer to that question is to make your own music
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>>68864587
We need new instruments.
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>>68867048
glitch and vaporwave
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>>68866439
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>>68868161
lmao this guy pathetically patting himself on the back 100x
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