/gg/ - Guitar & Bass General

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How can I learn to solo like J Mascis?

That pick guard there is pretty. My favorite Fender Medium picks have that same sort of design, does it have a name?

Here's my thing 'o' the day: is guitar hard? I've played since I was a kid but only ever play by myself. I've never been in a band, I've never jammed with someone, none of that. But my younger brother knows piano and sax and can read music and thought he would be able to pick up playing Ukulele quickly, and he is head over heels on that fucking thing. I grabbed it from him and basically knew exactly what to do--ukulele seems like dumb guitar, in the sweetest sense.

He was kind of jelly, but I just never thought that guitar was hard to learn--or harder than other instruments. Although, I guess it's hard enough for the 10,000,000 people who own guitars but can't play them to not ever care enough to really try?

So, guitar friends, where does a guitar (or any string instrument) rank in terms of difficulty, among other instruments?

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Neo-4chan users don't know what b8 looks like, no matter how obvious.

To the j**k making fun of my full stack for bedroom playing, I plan on performing in your mother's bedroom as well

How do I learn to solo? I can play little licks and riffs and stuff but do straight-up cutaway into a solo eludes me. Where should I start?

>>68820372

All instruments are hard anon, even the recorder when you're a little kid who just wants to watch cartoons.

>>68820400
continuity and tonal centers

>>68820372

Celluloid picks? I love the fender mediums too but they wear down way too fast for me. I switched over to jazz IIIs but I think I should have tried other celluloid picks .

Going to attempt to clean my pots tonight with the contact spray I bought.

Hope I don't fuck up.

>>68820879
It's a simple task, really

>>68820932
really makes you wonder how inexperienced or just incompetent a lot of people are that they're afraid of changing strings or using contact spray

>>68820372
Instrument difficulty... first for reference I have played trombone, guitar and bass guitar seriously in the past. Dabbled, as in tried a few times just to see how it felt, with a bunch of other stuff. No instrument is easy, all are hard to very hard to master.

Guitar is fairly straightforward relative to a lot of other instruments. Only piano, xylophone, drums so on are more simple. I suppose tonally drums is the easiest because you only have a limited range of notes you can produce and your primary objective is rhythm.

When i said simple above I meant in the sense that, with piano for instance, you press the desired key and the desired note plays:

>Guitar and the other stringed instruments have two things to produce a note, fretting the note and plucking/using some technique or tool to sound the string (plus complexity if instrument has no frets).
>Woodwinds, blow in to mouthpiece/reed, finger the single button or combination of buttons to produce your note. Control breathing in accordance with phrasing

>Brass, vibrate your lips at the correct rate in order to produce desired range, press button or combination of buttons, position slide etc, control breathing in accordance with your phrasing.

>Accordian, finger button combinations with both right and left hands, control the air input in the same way you would with a horn only you're using a bellows instead

I guess I would rate them something like drums and percussion < piano and other keys < stringed instruments < harmonica = woodwinds < brass < complex things like accordian

In practice the order may be a bit different, it does depend on your role in a band and your talent as far as dexterity, breath control, embouchure, stamina, whatever.

So, how many of us worship Froosh?

>>68820400
>>68820506

Just to expand on this a little,

basically, you when you're soloing, you want to solo over whatever chord is currently happening in the progression, rather than just going through some scale that covers the key of the song as a whole.

There's a really good, but dense video on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKe5jX-5pII

I can't explain too well as I'm don't know how to solo, but some other anon may be able to tell you more if you still feel there's something missing.

Go doom larping with a shitty ss combo amp in your bedroom or go home

I just bought a jaguar for $1800 on sale

Post boardzzz

I need 2 alternate tuned 9 strings to hit every note for ever instead of learbi g my fretboard

I just spent $3000 from a student loan buying flangers that were all clones of a shitty dod flanger but they used high quality parts like NOS caps and NOS 9 volts

Why would you pay so much for a jaguar when you can get one thats just as good for $200

You dont need pedals you just need to practice

Maybe if i spend a lot of money buying good gear i can trash talk everyone, here, ill post my epiphone g310 so they know im serious. Its tuned to drop A, it sounds super gnarly on my rogue 20 watt

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Is there a more overrated bass player in the world?

Look at his fucking form, it's garbage

>>68820977
Yeah man, people still do things for the first time these days? Lmao, what noobs!

>>68821121
>Look at his fucking form, it's garbage
Whats garbage about it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAsjR99Bu3s

>>68821122
>what is google
>what is youtube
you have so many resources at your disposal
you can do anything
believe in yourself

>>68821181
Nothing really, I just hate Flea.

>>68821121
Stop being a faggot. Flea is one of the most talented rock bassists of all time.

>>68821280
>stop not liking things i like

>>68820368
J mostly uses the major scale. a lot of unison bends, epileptic vibrato, and 16th note triplets. pretty basic stuff, he just does it tastefully.

>>68821334
>>68821121
>stop liking things I don't like

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>>68821119
Welcome to /gg/, my new friend.

Enjoy your stay.

can i just put my modulation effects after the amp head and before the cab if i dont have an fx loop? or will that fuck it up?

>>68821424
I don't see why not

>>68821379

So lots of major scale when the song is in a major key and minor when the song is in a minor?

Thanks anon!

Is line 6 actually bad or is it just a meme? I've never used one.

>>68821446
>what is a key change
>>68821450
It's bad

>>68821424
Dont do it dipshit

>>68821463
What's bad about them? From what I've heard they're ok starter amps. Or is that what the badness I've seen is referring to?

>>68821546
Line 6 has a bad reputation because they're the amp of choice for the 13 year old kid who chugs open strings on the "insane" distortion channel all day long. They're not as bad as everyone says.

>>68821463

sorry anon I'm a bit dumb, specially when it comes to guitar but thanks again for your input

>>68821546
>ok starter amps
See: bad

>>68821060
Oh, I forgot two. The grand-daddies of fuck off hard to play instruments: bagpipes and pedal steel guitar (complete with all the pedals and knee levers to mess with relative intonation).

And pipe organ, because you're essentially playing two or three pianos all at once.

>>68821586
Theyre definetly not great either. I personally think theyre pretty awful sounding on any setting, i owned a spider 3, i dont chug open strings. I still have a couple shitty amps lying around, not the spider

>>68821586
>Line 6 has a bad reputation because they're the amp of choice for the 13 year old kid who chugs open strings on the "insane" distortion channel all day long.
And they are good judges of a quality amp?

>>68821181
where's the solo?

>>68821658
How did you get that from my post? People think they're bad because most of the people who use them are bad. That's the point I was trying to make.

>>68821686
>most of the people who use them are bad
If a fool thinks something is great, is it likely that thing is not great?

>>68821707
not him but you're pretty dense aren't you

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>>68821707
Okay, I see now.

>>68821728
>>68821750
Enjoy your Line 6s kiddos

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Minimalist rigs continued

>>68821728
If being dense means not sharing the same shitty opinion as a 13 year old faggot Im fine with that.

You, obviously, are not dense.

>>68821797
>that pup album

anon~

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>>68821816

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Hello all. Here is my setup at the moment. Got some other stuff kicking around, but this is what I use all the time.

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>>68821889
>It just has a bad reputation because it's the music of choice for the 13 year old kids. It's not as bad as everyone says.

>>68821889
No one gives a fuck that you have a shitty modeling amp, i dont get why youre so butt blasted that other people actually want to sound good.

>>68821934
Gee bill! TWO Jazz Choruses?

>>68821934
what the heck

>>68821934
Solid. I played one of those amps once. We played a festival and had to use their backline, pretty legit amp.

>>68821934
wat acousting?
taytay DN 7?

>>68821970
>>68821988

I bought the first (bottom) one from a guy, then brought it home to find the chorus/vibrato didn't work. He had also changed the original speakers, so it didn't even sound like a fuckin jazz chorus anymore. I was too green to figure these things out at the time.

Fast forward a couple months and I see an all original one at a local shop. I went and tried it out...sounded so good, so I picked it up.

The bottom one has a great clean sound...a lot different than jazz choruses. More warm (doesn't have the metal cones in the speakers). I usually swap between them when I want the different sounds, but sometimes I run them in parallel sending only reverb/other effects to the bottom one and a clean signal to the top one.

I know it's weird...but it sounds cool.

>tfw I've got a $600 electric but I play it less than my $5 acoustic.

Anybody else know this feel?

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>>68822005

Yeah, they're great. Serious amps. I had never been floored by a solid state amp before, but they're great.

>>68822044

Acoustic is a Takamine N-10 which i thinkis from the 80's sometime. Sounds great. It's a bit dark usually, but with some bright strings it sounds rich and balanced.

practicing chord changes atm, what are some chords that sound nice when you play them together?

>>68822290
try F and U

>>68820372
The design is just called white pearl I believe

>>68822398
still cant get the hang of F and U isnt a chord you retard.

I'm not really that good at guitar, but I think even if it's just a little riff or a whole jam I'm going to attempt to record something at least once a week. Utilizing a different one of my guitars each time.

this feels good guys. I always kind of come up with half way little melodies or tunes but never have attempted to save some of them. If only i could gain the confidence to sing now.

>>68821836
eh?

>>68822290
G D Aminor

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was looking for a new bass on the last thread, and meanwhile came across the mustang bass, would anyone recommend it? looks really nice, and sounds nice from videos ive seen. really between this, p bass, or a j bass.

>>68821934
I see those 120s for sale all the time, are they worth the $$?

>>68822521
that's nice mang

so I just started a band with my friends and they pushed me to the bass for the following reasons:
>I suck at guitar (even tho I'm not the worst of them)
>I own a bass

but I'm new to this instrument, my biggest achievement being playing 'Is This It'

what do I practice/what is essential in a bass practice routine?

>>68822576
don't do bass if you don't want to, man.

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What's a guitar suited for playing in alternate tunings? I'm sick of breaking strings on my strat.

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>go to craiglist meet up
>didn't get raped and murdered
Feels good man. Got this explorer

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>>68822667
>pic cuts off the headstock
that better not be an epiphone in a gibson case

>>68822617
I'd rather play guitar, I guess, but there's no problem with the bass so far, it's just that I don't even know where to begin with it

I'm trying to learn Good Vibrations atm, the bass is beautiful

>>68822657
I thought you were going to kill yourself?

>>68822699
Read the file name silly.

>>68821450
I have one that I use as a practice amp. Wouldn't use it playing out though.

>>68822705
what kinda bass is it duder?

>>68822535

Depends how often you use chorus. If you love chorus then absolutely they're worth it. They sound so good. Even if you just want a great sounding, super clean amp then you can't beat em. Wouldn't pay more than $500 for one though.

>>68822667
Craigslist is great, anon. Definitely not zero risk, but you can get some crazy shit. I got my Orange head and cab off it for less than 50% of a reasonable resale price. Happy new guitar day anon

>>68822667
where did you meet

>>68822778
It really Is. That explorer was $490

>>68822812
His house. An hour and a half away

>>68822854
well im glad you're still alive

>>68822525
All of the Fender basses are good. Each has its own slightly different tone and feel. Recommend trying them in store and see what you like best of the ones Fender offers.

Is basswood too soft for a body? I heard it dents too easily.

>>68822772
mine? a sunburst Jazz bass knockoff

but I was talking about the bass of the song being beautiful

>>68822929
I have an old Ibanez that is basswood. Never had a problem with denting. I mean as long as it's painted (not a varnished and glossed wood) you have a thick layer of primer and paint protecting the body anyway.

>>68822955
ah my bad bud, either way a jazz bass always looks nice, and yessir it does a have a good bass in it.

How do i learn guitar?

So far i know EAD chords and how to solo based off them. I know music theory already.

I just find guitar terrible to learn compared to piano and brass

>>68823094
it sounds like you need help on the mechanics of physically playing the instrument, only years of practice will allow your muscles to git gud

study technique, like classical technique, and alternate picking.

>>68822972
So a basswood-body Squier with a sunburst finish won't dent easily? the body is my main concern when choosing my next guitar. The price jump to an Alder body is a bit much and I could use the money to put a nice pickup and an EQ pedal.

>>68822657
Just find a string set that could suit you and use an online string tension calculator to find the tension you want. Getting a new guitar because of tuning problems is silly unless you're trying baritone or open tunings like CGCGCE while keeping one in standard.

>>68823170
Nah, I wouldn't worry about it.

How do I write licks like Real Estate or Built to Spill?

I feel like all of the licks I write are just bastardizations of their songs and if anyone knew their songs they'd simply be able to tell.

Is there some aspect of theory which is very applicable to writing easy, 2 guitar slack-mode riffs?

>>68823170
basswood is cheap garbage and alder is a tonewood used in fine musical instruments. why do you think theres a price jump you idiot?

>>68823290
>tonewood
Alder sounds brighter, yeah, but I want to use a bridge humbucker and I play mostly with OD.

The CV DOES seem much nicer, though. I want a guitar for many years, even if I need to upgrade the electronics, hardware eventually.

What are the best exercises to improve your phrasing? Which exercise was the one that helped your phrasing become more "musical" and less "scalar".

>>68823886
Tom Kolb's books. Amazing Phrasing has lots of exercises on particular techniques, Soloing Strategies is more about improvisation itself and how to effectively use scales outside of those linear box shapes we usually learn them at first.

>>68823094
>I know music theory already.
Then why do you only know three chords?

>>68824127
obviously i "know" more, i just cant transition to the properly yet. Like i can play those 3 in rapid succession and play around with them easily.

>>68823128
yeah fair point, my alternative picking it quite robotic at this point

>>68824194
Alright then learn to play barre chords next

That exactly what I need, I need to start using scales "effectively" instead of just going up and down in them. I am practicing with less notes and trying to come up with interesting licks, and while it works, I still feel like I need something to go further. Thanks for the suggestions anon.

>>68824318
>>68824055
Oops, I meant to reply this post.

I need help, fellow guitar fags. I have a Peavey Classic 50 I got in a trade a few years ago. I don't really play much guitar anymore but I was just riffing around when the sound suddenly got quiet, and then this hum just started to get louder and louder before the amp just turned off. Now it won't turn back on. Did my amp just die?

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http://paulsboutique.ca/product/2014-guild-a-150b/

this a good price?

>>68824649
If you like it then it is.if not you could Check out Gretsch G100ce synchromatics maybe. Same thing but a couple hundred dollars cheaper

>>68824810
Is guild not as good as they used to be? I know this guy's about $600 less than it is new

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>>68824649
yeah dude listen to advice from someone who called them synchromatics >>68824810

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>>68824990
my bad the asian shitplanks actually have been rebranded synchromatic. will wonders never cease. carry on

My man!

Im finding my guitar hell to play, i cant press down on most stuff without it buzzing (from string vibrating) and its hell to play. What do i need to do?

>>68825166
More practice

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>>68825130
>tried to meme on me
>ends up looking dumb
Kek

>>68825206
you sure? this is like man i dont know if anyone can play this

>>68825332
How long have you been playing, for how long each day?

>>68825368
2 hours / day
1 month + 7 days

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>>68825302
>is proud that he wasted his time accumulating knowledge about low quality asian shitplanks
yeah I'm the one who looks dumb here

>>68825401
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>>68825410
Yes. You are.

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>>68825481
whatever you need to tell yourself, I guess

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>>68825518
I'm not telling meyself, you retard. I'm telling you.

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>>68825581
telling me what? that you're proud that you wasted your time accumulating knowledge about low quality asian shitplanks? we've already been over this dummy

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>>68825628
That you're dumb. Nerd.

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>>68825685
that you've confused yourself with me, which is typical of dummys? no surprises there

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>>68824990
samefag

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>>68825743
>dummys
Hmmm...

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>>68825813
what a great thread

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>>68825839
I'm gonna stop. I'm out of yui picks anyways.

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>>68825872
>picks
Hmmm...

reported

I started playing a classical guitar a few weeks again and I have trouble playing the high action nylon strings and the big neck.
Any tips or exercises to practice?

>>68826033
Keep your fingering hand in the claw shape and anchor your thumb to the middle of the back of the neck. Classical guitar is very technique-based compared to steel-string. I suggest watching some people play to get a sense of how to sit and hold the guitar, since it's designed to be played a certain way

K-on is bad and you should feel bad.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/a/ you stupid fucking degenerate weebs

>>68820372
>is guitar hard?

In general, not really. If you can't get reasonably good at guitar after a year or so of steady practice you should probably kys.

That said it does depend to an extent on how you play and what your background is. Guitar wasn't tough for me because I already have a background on piano and I don't find guitar particularly challenging in comparison, but if I were trying to do complicated fingerstyle or jazz guitar I might not feel that way.

>>68826290
truth
>>68826611
agree

>>68825166
Practice yeah but make sure your strings aren't set too low. That would be really frustrating as a beginner thinking you're just not pressing down hard enough when it's actually partly a setup problem.

I'm looking into getting a Parlour guitar soon, any recommendations?

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>>68826290
K-on is cute and you hate fun.

What does /gg/ think of gj2? Ive been thinking of trying out the inspiration shredder guitar but ive never seen gj2 mentioned here. I've been trying to find a guitar with a floyd rose that isnt edgy fedora nonsence like an ibanez or a jackson but also isnt mulletcore 80s also pls

>>68827114
>with a floyd rose

Why? I have one and grew to hate it over the years. Fiddly fucking thing just for an effect that I can get with a whammy pedal on the rare occasion I feel the need.

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Which K-on would you jam with?

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>>68827334
Ritsu for sure. Jamming no fun without percussion.

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Anyone have one of these?

This guitar caught my eye, and I've heard a lot of good stuff about PRS. Mostly play jazz/jazz-fusion/metal

PRS S2 Standard 24

>>68827312
>Fiddly fucking thing just for an effect that I can get with a whammy pedal
Kek, sure you can. All a whammy pedal will do is give you a stiff digital sounding approximation with the added handicap of having to control it with your foot. If all you want to do is wacky divebombs, then sure it could work as a substitute

>>68827850
>wacky divebombs

That is the purpose of the floating bridge. Regular tremolo performs just fine for the subtle applications of whammy bar.

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This 2017 LP was so fucking worth it.

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>>68827979
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>>68827979
Enjoy, anon.
>post clyp

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>>68827986
>greasy-hunk-of-burnt-wood finish
What will Gibson think of next

>>68828027
I would but I live with other people who are sleep

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>>68824649
Not really, but it's not a bad price either. I would try to get it $100-$200 cheaper.

>>68822699
Look at the truss rod cover. Two screws, not 3. Definitely Gibson.

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My setup. That's a highway one strat. Also have a martin custom x series.

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Any Gibson fags here? How are modern LPs and SGs now? Do they still got problems with staying in tune or shit like that?

who /angus & malcom/ here

https://clyp.it/z04inyln

>>68828312
Heritage is much better

>>68828312
My new 2017 model holds tune all week. I put it inside a case after each use and still it doesnt lose a hair tuning being moved around that much. I have lessons on thursday and every time my teacher does a tuning check and it's perfect from the start.

>>68824583
More like went into a coma, google it, might be common.

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How do we feel about SX guitars?

>>68829000
That's fucking gross.

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>>68828312

I don't regret my 2014 LPJ purchase for a nanosecond. That said, I played Les Pauls between $1800-4000 that day with the intent of buying any of them, and the fucking $800 model is the one that felt the best. Two years on and I have absolutely no issues whatsoever. My Ibanez needs an entire new bridge, and a rewiring, and the Telecaster needs its pickup switch rewired. But I work 10 hour days and don't got no time for that.

Gibsons are as dodgy as they have been for 20 years, but they are 'recovering' from the ghastly fuck ups of the mid 2000's- but barely. Quality control is still worse than a sine wave in terms of quality. You might get a 2017 Les Paul made on a wednesday afternoon that is perfect for you, only to go back to the store and instead pick up and play the same Les Paul model made on a friday evening and find that it plays like garbage. There is no consistency.

>>68829126
CLEAN THAT FRETBOARD

>>68827507
A PRS is arguably one of the best guitars you can get.

greenpill me on hot rails

>>68829000
No idea, never played one but that body looks wicked

>>68820227
I have the feeling that I just can't express myself with my current instrument. I'll have to find a luthier that'll build me a 7-string bass with partial fretting (3 highest strings fretted, 4 lowest strings fretless) with frets that have a smooth transition from jumbo on the highest to tiny on the lower string which then turns into a strip of metal as fret markers on the fretless side. Multiscale/fanned frets with slanted pickups (Humbucker Singlecoil Humbucker with a piezo in the bridge, coil split and serial parallel for the Humbuckers, separate pot for each pickup), active electronics with a graphical 9-band EQ on the bass, hollowbody, headless, with a variable fingerboard radius that becomes round enough close to the bridge that you can use a bow on it. Rarewood top on an ash body with a 13-piece neck.
I have about 13,000$ available for this, do you guys know a luthier who is up for the job?

>>68822576
You have a role in a band, fulfil it.

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>>68830289
Can't forget the 9-band EQ

>>68822576
>what do I practice/what is essential in a bass practice routine?
Locking in with the drums, having exceptional and (ideally) independent time, filling the correct sonic space (providing low end most of the time, sometimes you need to fill in somewhere else though), etc. View the bass as a rhythm instrument (at least if you're starting out) it'll make more sense for you that way. If you're really new, work on your muting daily. No unwanted notes should be ringing in the background, ever. And practice proper legato playing even when switching your left hand position.

>>68830462
I originally made that pasta, please love me.

>>68830289
13,000 isn't enough. you have to spend 100,000 before you are able to express yourself with an instrument

>>68824649
no, it's not a good price.

>>68824649
but on the same store:
http://paulsboutique.ca/product/carvin-h2/
that's a bomb ass price.

>>68820227
>Fender mim P bass
>150 bucks used
I'm grabbing that.

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I'm new to guitar but I want to start picking up bass as well. I like coral pink and want this one. Where 2 get?

>>68826944
>Cute girls doing cute things with instruments

Yeah no. I'd rather watch something good.

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>>68831324
>tfw MIM fenders are $600+

>>68832124
from what I can see in other images it says lakland on the headstock.

>>68832132
the guy just pulled the add....

>>68822290
i love try e b g#m a or g d em b

>>68832124
Japanese Fender Pbass/Mustang is the most likely to have that kind of funky color. Good luck

>>68832201
thanks man

>>68821934
>>68822059

God man what a fucking dream rig.

I'm mad jelly anon, please use them both at the same time do it for me

Guitar newfag here, got a stupid question. Is there a "tone guide" of sorts somewhere that one could read? Like, some source of info that basically tells you how to get a certain sound, as in what equipment to use and so on. I've got the basics of guitar down to a point where I can sorta fuck around and play something I want to play, but I'm missing the exact sound of how I imagine it sounding in my head.

Or maybe you could help my dumb ass out, since I'm nowhere near the level of being able to figure this shit out for myself. What I'm looking for is a way to get ultra-low, heavy sounds, as well as high-pitch "screams" that sound like your amp is about to explode. I've tried using my amp's overdrive and EQ for the first and a borrowed fuzz for the second, but it's nowhere near. Here's a tune that has a close sound of both those tones so you could imagine what I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcMz3aAZDv4

Just listen to the first 20-25 seconds and you'll get the idea of the sort of sound I'm looking for.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

>>68832782

chasing a certain tone you hear in a record is an endless, fruitless endeavor anon, a lot of studio fuckery goes into making guitar sounds on record more often than not

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>>68832782
this is the guitar you need to achieve that sound gooby

>>68832840
I realize that, and I'm not looking to replicate some exact song, I just want to know what sort of gear I would need to reach the very depths and heights of guitar tone. I find that just fucking around and experimenting with various bits of noise is what brings me the most joy right now, instead of playing some actual tunes. Besides, I love learning new stuff about guitar rigs as well.

>>68832903
Yeah, I can definitely see how two extra bass strings would help out with the low end tone. Though, is it really impossible to go that low with a 6 string? What if I put on some really beefy strings, SRV style, and tuned it way, way down? Or maybe even tune the low strings to be lower and the high strings to be higher than standard, to get both lows and highs at the same time.

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>>68832955
there can be only one gooby

>>68832983
I think there is a point where you can have too many strings on a guitar, and I think this guitar has passed that point.

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>>68833097
thats not even close to the event horizon gooby

>>68833164

what's the thickest string tuned to? F#?

>>68833164
I would literally just pour kerosene on that and light it.

Fucking garbage. Literally not even an instrument.

>>68833212
Probably a pitch that only elephants can hear.

>>68833229
Act of mercy. Putting it out of its misery.

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>>68833229
>>68833237
oh goobys! this rabbit hole never ends

>>68833460
Why stop there and not just play the harp at that point?

>>68833460
He probably tunes that longer than he plays it.

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Is there an actual point to putting one of these fuckers on your guitar when you don't even use vibratos? Because I've seen dudes do it, and it makes no fucking sense to me.

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>>68833528
>Why stop there
some goobys would agree with you

>>68832782
The low sounds are a bass guitar with a bit of grit on it
The highs are feedback or maybe an e-bow

>>68833634
You also see a ton of people with floyds on their guitars without ever using them

>>68833604

Imagine intonating that shit

Jesus

>>68833868
that makes more sense because of the tuning stability
bigsby's don't have that

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>>68829175

No. Fuck you. That fretboard is fine just the way it is.

I had it cleaned and set-up professionally 6 months before I took that pic. There is no sense in cleaning the neck over and over. Need to let those oils sink in, let that bitch know that you own her- make anyone else that plays her feel dirty and uncomfortable.

>>68833634
beats me. maybe it's just the cool factor

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>>68833987
That's about how often I clean my boards, twice a year. Also, I'd definitely recommend learning to do your own setups, anon. All you need in the way of specialized tools is a truss rod wrench, string height gauge, and a set of feeler gauges. It'll take some practice, but it'll save you so much money. Go watch a few of the videos at Dave's World of Fun Stuff, he's got some solid tutorials.

You've got a nice guitar, so ya might as well learn how to care for it yourself

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>>68834065

I worked at a music store as a guitar salesman and technician for nearly 4 years. I know how to do set ups, I simply don't have the space or the inclination to do it myself until I can set up a proper table, which will be in the new year. I have it done by a very relaxed and professional fellow who has been doing repair and builds for 30 years.

It's because I don't have the ability to put the proper upkeep-care into my Gibson that I entrust it to a professional yearly until next year. Trust me, I have a lot of work to do on these fuckers.

>>68832782
The instrument that starts the song sounds like a bass with a cheap fuzz or intentionally lofi fuzz, or maybe its just super compressed.

There's no guide that could lead you to the "conclusion" I reached, thats just years of experience, hearing a bunch of things, and then learning how those were produced.

All i can tell you is that if i used the setup i described i could get a good approximation of that sound.

A bass in standard playing the 7th fret on the e string would produce the same note as a guitar tuned to B standard playing the 6th string(low E in standard), B, but both sound vastly different, even if played through the same amp with the same settings. That sounds like a bass to me.

Next, the dirt. Commonly you use overdrive, straight distortion, or fuzz to get the grit. They achieve it in different ways, and to different. The signal is too saturated for overdrive, unless it was in front of an already driven amp. Even then, it doesnt sound like overdrive. To me it sounds like fuzz, listen to comparisons on youtube and you'll hear some noticeable differences.

I say lofi or compression because the sound has no life, no room to breathe. Quality fuzzes dont do that, cheap ones ocassionaly do. Otherwise its compression, probably after the fuzz to keep all the levels in check. It very well might be compression added in post production. Could be something like a sansamp too, but i tend to think those have fizzy top end(which to some extent can also be corrected post production).

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>>68826290

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>>68826611
I bet you play a pointy guitar, anon

am I good desu
https://clyp.it/f1bgsok0

guitar only
https://clyp.it/fgeriwae

>>68834449

I like dat tone. You're sounding pretty swell, buddy. Just the right amount of notes.

>>68831324
>>68832153
Fuck this guy, I contacted him 10 minutes after the ad went up, so either someone else bought it within fucking 10 minutes of it being online or he delisted it again because he realized that it's worth more. At least write back and tell me god damn, is that too much to ask for?

>>68834189
>and then learning how those were produced.
That's the thing I'm trying to learn right now, hence why I asked in the first place. And your post is exactly the sort of info I'm looking for, I just wish there was some way of getting more information like that, apart from probably asking a guitar tech/teacher.

Also, I've got another question while I'm at it. When using effect pedals like fuzz or distortion, are you supposed to go with the clean channel on the amp, or is it okay to add the amp's overdrive as well. Does it even produce any sort of effect at that point? Or is there some point where the signal becomes too distorted and additional effects add nothing to it?

>>68834548
For a price like that, and assuming it was a legit deal, I wouldn't be surprised that someone managed to snatch it within minutes. It's almost too good to be true.

>>68834691
;_;
One time I wanted to get a deal like that. I don't even like P basses but having that tonal option or just flipping the damn thing would have made my day. I also could have finally formed a proper opinion on Fender basses and maybe stop my irrational hate.

>>68834761
kek you snooze you loose

>>68834827
>snooze
>literally messaged the guy 10 minutes after he put his ad up

>>68834853
>not 1 minutes after he put it up
What were you doing?? Snoozing?

>>68834761
I once had a 250$ bid on ebay on a near mint 6505 head only to be outbid within the last 3 seconds. I know that feel, man.

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>>68833212
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OFFERS-THROW-NUMBERS-AT-THIS-TENNESSEE-15-STRING-EXTENDED-RANGE-BASS-/291591372465?nma=true&si=wUKKAFAe8ecTnT3ukISOvxY2vos%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
>US $918.91
>>68833661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIupV9HyeSE
That video is hilarious.
>>68833873
>Imagine intonating that shit
Pic related.

>>68834548
Reminds me of when I got this all original1992 Gibson Les Paul std. (black) w/ OHSC for $1600. The guy told me he originally wanted a little over $2500 for it but had no buyers. He gradually lowered the price and by the time it reached $1600 I was the first to respond.

I always see the early 90s LPs in ads going for $3k, so I jumped on it right away. looks and sounds great!

>>68835050
why

>>68832124
closest color to that is Fender's Fiesta Red.

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>>68835050

What was your motivation to get better when you were a beginner?

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>>68835130
Why not?

>>68835176
Pussy. Can't get laid if you can't even play Wonderwall.

>>68835176

The bassists I admired always seemed to be so much better than me, Lou Barlow and Al Cisneros seemed like gods.

Now I'm trying to reach Chris Squire and Geddy Lee.

>>68835176
when I was 12 I wanted to learn every Nirvana song. laughable now but it was a pretty good jumping off point. start off with easy stuff that will encourage you by giving you many small moments of accomplishment

>>68835290
I'm 30 and I still want to learn every Nirvana song. Nothing laughable about liking whatever you like.

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>>68835248
>Lou Barlow and Al Cisneros
hows your blue balls, sausage?

>>68835329

Sorry anon I'm afraid I don't understand, English is an acquired language for me.

>>68835325
what I meant was, I liked it when I was 12.

>>68835008
>about to buy a music man SUB bass on ebay
>Its black/passive practically in mint condition, came with hardshell case
>last 30 seconds I bid something like $350 thinking its mine
>proceed to buy all this other gear on various sites so another $300
>last 5 seconds some dude outbids me for like $660
>cry

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>>68835164
don't get mad because you're not creatively searching for new event horizon gooby

>>68835430
>implying I'm not constructing a 70 string overdriven/fuzzed electric harp in my basement dungeon right now

>>68835430

I enjoy playing w/ just four strings but don't take me for a purist
>that's so bassist with more pedals on his boards than strings on his bass

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>>68835430
>dat fedora beside the screen

>>68835430
music is not in strings, it's in your mind
checkmate atheists

>>68835511

God is represented with the number 7 as perfection

7 strings were created to be closer to God, who created us, strings and guitars.

Will atheists recover and their 6-6-6 strings tuned to low C standard?

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>>68835511
wrong again gooby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory

I'm lonely. Will 2 more strings and an Axe-FX help me with this?

>>68835556
>theory
So, I can propose an equally unprovable theory that the universe is actually your mom's penis.

>>68835594

Sadly no.

Take your current amount of strings and your current non-modeled amp and play music with your friends, if you don't got friends join a band or start one.

>>68835556
>String Theory
>makes no observable predictions
>unable to test it
Then it's not a theory, is it?

>>68835594
no
you will be closer to suicide than ever before

>>68835622
>if you don't got friends join a band or start one.
but how do I do that without any friends???
>>68835631
Maybe the thicker gauge strings will be able to hold my weight

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>>68835612
>>68835626
>they don't know what a scientific theory is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
top kek goobys ur dumb

>>68820376
kill yourself

>>68835672
Are you retarded?

I kind of want an 8 string

>>68835727
what would you do with it

>>68835209
This is just shitty construction. The bass string spacing is so fucked, I doubt the bottom four strings are even playable.

>>68835736
Play anime songs in my underwear

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>>68835710
>A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.
noe u r gooby

>>68835209
That's just fucking stupid. There's no way you can play those bass strings without them hitting each other.

>be bass player
>guitar fags constantly trying to invade my frequency range
>8 string guitars
>scooped as fuck sound
>have to drive mids high as hell to have a chance to hear myself
>hurr anon why are you playing so loud
>drummer hits his kit like he hates it
>every session is just super loud drums and a wall of clipped noise

how do I get my band to fucking take 30 minutes and work on not sounding like ear rape? it used to be cool but jams are pure hell these days.

>>68835823
kick them out

>>68835736
I want one for a solo ambient project

>>68835778
>It makes falsifiable predictions with consistent accuracy across a broad area of scientific inquiry (such as mechanics).
>It is among the most parsimonious explanations, economical in the use of proposed entities or explanatory steps. (See Occam's razor. Since there is no generally accepted objective definition of parsimony, this is not a strict criterion, but some theories are much less economical than others.)
String Theory doesn't do this. You also can't conduct experiments, which will not allow you to follow the scientific method. Hence it is not a theory.

Read Lee Smolin's book on it if you are still confused.

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>>68835050
Just fuck my sides up

>>68835844
they're [spoiler]close childhood friends[/spoiler]

also "kicking everybody but me" sounds like another way to say "leave"

>>68835823
>tell drummer to switch to electronic drums
>tune guitar amps so that they sound in the proper range and break off the knobs
>take wire cutters and cut off the two extra stings when they're not looking

>>68835823
>>8 string guitars
Well there's your problem. Stop playing manchild music

>>68835924
is this the bait people are bitching about

you can do better

>>68835823
record yourselves and ask them if they honestly think that sounds good. why dont they understand the frequency issue?

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>>68835856
>String Theory doesn't do this.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
that must be why they call it a scientific theory then gooby ;^)

>>68835952
>a truth that hurts?
>must be bait!

>>68835954
They are guitarists anon, they'd probably listen to it and say "Yeah, I can hear myself fine, what's the problem you were talking about?"

>>68835981
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trouble_with_Physics

>>68835983
no its not truth, you only think it's truth, but really it isn't and you're wrong

I play beautiful djent music and I'm going to sign with nuclear blast records

>>68835954
because most guitarists are brain dead morons. i dont know why that bassist didnt run away when he saw hist guitar friends take out an 8 string.

>>68836022
>I play beautiful djent music
So I'm correct about the manchild music

If you want to be heard, go play something else that doesn't diminish the bass

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>>68836013
>string theory
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
oh gooby

>>68836051
What are you even talking about?

>>68836043
>he thinks he can stop me with words
imagine if somebody had said to Mozart "you must bang stick on animal skin as we have always done". there would be no violin today, and therefore no bass guitar.

>>68827507
The S2 line is a great deal, especially if you check reverb and ebay. I've seen them go for under $700.

>>68836105
OK have fun not being heard.

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>>68836051
>armenian genocide
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_searching_algorithm
oh woody

>>68836142
whoops

>gooby
what is this new meme?

>>68836139
in all seriousness, if you can't hear the bass in any metal song, then the mix is shit

don't invent imaginary problems to justify your shit opinions

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>>68836084
>string theory
>A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.
kek u rly r dumb gooby

>>68836191
Should cover this with an anime sticker.

>>68836191
that veneer is gorgeous

shame about the shitty controls though

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>>68836212

>>68836183
Oh how long have you been a mixing engineer?

>>68836191
>whoops

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>>68836243

>>68836277
I'm Alan Parsons

checkmate faggot

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What's your favorite guitar that you own?
>pic related

>>68836323
http://www.metalsucks.net/2014/09/12/isolated-bass-tracks-help-us-ponder-question-bassists-matter/

I'll just leave this here.

>>68836164
It's a sure sign that you're being an idiot

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>>68836320

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>>68836391
rude gooby

>>68836381
you only need to look at players like Martin Mendez, Steve DiGiorgio, Sean Malone, Dominic Lapointe, etc. they have no issue getting themselves heard.

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look at all these casuals with their chromatic fretboards

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>>68836458
>players like Martin Mendez, Steve DiGiorgio, Sean Malone, Dominic Lapointe, etc.

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>>68836513
mah gooby

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>>68836458
>Sean "Hey man can you mix me like 20dB louder please?" Malone

>>68836513
>fixed frets
What a pleb

>>68836362
my grandpappys 1960s gibson j-45.
nobody in the family knows I have it. but I saved it from the pawn shop enough times that I feel like I've earned it.

>>68836362
>>68836619
same rofl
except it was my dad's, and was never at risk of being pawned

>>68836544
adults are boring, overly self-important and insipid

checkmate faggot

>>68836604
[citation needed]

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>>68836677
>adults are boring, overly self-important and insipid
>checkmate faggot

>>68836702
this person never does anything but enjoy music and life in general

in reality, you are jealous of him

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>>68836243
>>68836320
>>68836395
awww yiss

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>>68836735
>this person never does anything but enjoy music and life in general
>in reality, you are jealous of him

New thread where?

Do you guys save your old strings when you change strings?

>>68836766
can you not see the musical trance he is in?

you will never experience such bliss

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>>68836809
>can you not see the musical trance he is in?
>you will never experience such bliss

Pulled a tendon in my wrist. Now my third and pinky fingers hurt sometimes, and so does the wrist.

Anyone had this problem? I think I overstrained myself while playing. How long of a break I should take? I'm already using some medicine and elastic bandages to heal up as fast as I can.

>>68836798
bass strings yes, guitar strings no

you can unclog shit with roundwounds

>>68836735
he might enjoy music but that motherfuckers life looks like a wad of shit

>>68836825
she is clearly extremely happy, you cannot hurt her

join us

>>68836865
you don't need to leave the house to play metal

If my amp's speaker is loudly buzzing and crackling when I play with the volume knob set past the first notch, is the speaker blown?

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>>68836892
>she
>her
kek

>>68836743
As much as I hate that there is anime on a guitar, that is a cute asshole.

>>68836828
use handstretches it help your hands heal and also increase your vertical reach try take your right hand pointer and using it to stretch your left pinky while you use your right thumb to stretch your left pointer finger then bring your fingers back like your grabbing something in reverse then just massage your hand a bit repeat every couple of hours till its gone

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>>68836955

>>68836929
that's not a girl?

fuck it you win

>>68836978
why are you using the name field

>>68834631
Basically, a good way to learn is by searching a musicians name and then adding "live rig" "studio rig" "pedal board" "amp" or some other phrase to the search. This will sometimes help you locate specific information, especially on more well known guitar players. Looking at live videos will sometimes help, and you can even find videos where people break their rig down piece by piece, what, how and why they use what they do. You can find a pretty extensive one, for example, about a pedal board this guy built for the guy from radiohead.

Watch videos on different effects too, start with distortions because theyre easiest to understand, then move on to modulation because thats the easiest to differentiate sounds.

As for whether to run your amp dirty or clean with distortion, its up to you. Too many distortion effects make a horrible sound, lots of oscilation, noise, mud, and it can get to a point where it's just white noise. A lot of guys will use a mostly gritty sound on their amp and still run a fuzz or overdrive in front for leads, sometimes even a clean boost. Some guys prefer pedal distortion over amp distortion, some amp distortion just sucks, and some guys just plain prefer fuzz over anything. Some amps, especially vintage, only have one channel, if its clean youll have to use a pedal for distortion. The possibilities are endless, really, its whatever you think sounds best.

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>>68836978
I pulled the tendon on my right hand though. I asked my teacher, he just told me to chill out with the playing and wait for it to heal up without doing any fancy pulling stuff.

Shit, last year my elbow always hurt from picking, now I'm fucking up my wrist and my elbow is fine. Advances in technique, fuck yeah.