HOUSE MUSIC

>>68806914
>house
>it's a breakbeat hardcore revival album
?

>>68807054
Close enough man. It's tagged house pretty much everywhere.

>>68807094
>close enough
not really

also
>house music
>studio albums

>>68807094
>Close enough

>>68806914
>dance music
>albums
>posts one of the most memey "rave revival" artists
And i'm going to point out this again
>wants to discuss fucking dance music on an album basis
>>68807054
this

Please spent a couple of fucking months digging through discogs, maybe that way you'll stop being retarded

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>>68807267
>>68807462
Explain why, if its objectively wrong to listen to albums by dance music producers (not all techno, house etc are made for the dancefloor btw), why do the artists release them?

>>68807686
Albums aren't inherently evil, however the fact that OP specified albums, in combination with calling Lone - Levitate a house album when it's clearly breakbeat derived, is more than enough to assume he's coming from an ignorant rockist perspective

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>>68807738
It just pisses me off you can't talk about techno, house or breaks on this board without /bleep/ wading in about >muh singles when /bleep/ is very exclusive to a limited selection of current music styles only.

I get that unlike /mu/ they don't want to circlejerk over the same limited selection of artists every single day but theres plenty of music out there in those genres that aren't just bangers.

>>68807905
It's just that most producers don't put out albums and if they do, it's usually not their best material unless it's a compilation

>>68806914
Lone is great but that ain't house

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Disregard /bleep/, post great house albums

>>68807905
This album is like walking in the rain or sitting on a train at 3 A.M. or coming down off of MDMA

It's literally a 10/10 album

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>>68808720

>>68807462
>one of the most memey "rave revival" artists
oh fuck off you dweeb

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>>68808720

Leon Vynehall' shit bretty gud top 5 this year for sure

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It's also the goat album cover.

>>68808795
toddy's squashed face makes me laff erry time

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deep house doesn't get any better than this, highly recommended early 00s glamorous deep tech sound.

ITT: Newfags

that youandewan album is nice

/mu/ just fuck off, kindly

>>68807905
But why would you care for anything but bangers if you're a regular club goer?
Tunes only come in four flavours:
trash, bait, banger and set-filler

trash tunes aren't worth talking about because they're shit.
bait tunes aren't worth talking about because all there is to say about them has been said already.
Setfillers are boring but necessary, a set can't be all bangers.

>>68810717
fuck off to your british memerap containment thread you degenerate

>>>/bleep/

>>68810741
not an argument

>>68810741
thank you for showing us how many buzzwords can fit in one post anon
have a (You) on me

>>68810741
how is anything I said wrong?

>>68810717
>saying all techno, house, breaks and trance are degenerate EDM

fuck off /metal/

/bleep/ fuck off. Not all house music is the normie pleb trash you like.

/bleep/ it's not worth replying, just let /mu/ be

>>68811065
I said no such thing.
And they either are or they are without value.
A club tune is only worth judging in that context.

>>68811243
And not all house music are club tunes so whats your problem with this thread?

>>68811313
>And not all house music are club tunes
What do you think house music fucking is?

>>68811313
>>68811313
>And not all house music are club tunes
Except that all house music is club music.
Not to mention that Lone does not make house

>>68811446
>Except that all house music is club music.
Please just stop this. Go back to /bleep/ you degenerate.

>>68811446
>Not to mention that Lone does not make house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXV2isj9mu0

>>68811512
Then show me house that isn't club music.
There isn't any.

>>68811558
Did you even listen to this?
It's just more boring rave throwback garbage

>>68811716
what about outside house?

>>68811729
Just because it's made by clubless virgins it's no less club-oriented

>>68811729
You mean Outsider House? Still gets played in clubs. Mall Grab is fucking massive right now.

>>68811716
>Not to mention that Lone does not make house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy3md1NOH2I

>>68811716
>Then show me house that isn't club music.
>>68808720

>>68811744
Autechre get played in clubs.

Are Autechre and IDM club music now anon?

this is the most idiotic thread
bunch of posers saying house music isn't club music
kys virgins

>>68811773
another idiotic post

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Claptone is the best house in the game right now.

>>68811783
*bunch of people saying not all house music is club music

no need to twist people's words anon we're better than american mass media here

Goodie, I almost missed the daily /bleepdoesn'tcarewhat/mu/thinks/ general.

>>68811783
again
>>68811759
>>68808720

>>68811759
not house

>>68811887
It's more the daily /muisfuckingcluelesswhenitcomestoanythingthatisntshittyhiphoporrockmusic/ general

>>68811759
>>68811900
now him but how is this house or not a club banger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DetiWap-FM

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>>68812400

>>68812400
>>68812422
>The Orb
>not ambient house

>>68812426
ok so?
It doesn't sound like house, so why call it that?
The only time calling something house when it clearly doesn't sound anything like house is acceptable is when talking about very early techno, because there was no distinction back then.

>>68812446
Its house music, just because it doesn't sound like a shitty /bleep/ track stop trying to move the goalposts because you're just digging you're hole deeper EDMtard.

>>68808760
This has stood the test of TIME.

shame they now make/dj shitty edm sounding tracks.

Also leftfield split up ?

one is now a dj
the other still tours as leftfield?

>>68812445
how is that tune even remotely ambient?
It has the subtlety of a freight train, if said train was driving straight through your living room.

>>68812455
don't dodge the question
In what way does it sound like house?

>>68812455
>just because it doesn't sound like a shitty /bleep/ track stop trying to move the goalposts because you're just digging you're hole deeper EDMtard.
What are you even talking about. House is /bleep/. House is club music. /bleep/ doesn't listen to "EDM".

>muh hates "edm"
>suddenly love it when a halfbaked rap is thrown on top
I don't get it

>>68812490
>blehp hates "IDM"
>suddenly love it when a halfbaked chavrap is thrown on top
I don't get it

>>68812490
example?

>>68812490
>>68812502
we're not talking about grime here
this is the "/mu/ doesn't know what house is" thread

>>68812513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oba9M3DaL68

>>68812470
>>68812481
The Orb make ambient house, one outlier track is not the norm

>>68812482
House isn't just club music, you admitted it right here
>>68812446

>>68812547
in what way did I admit that?
Because I really can't see it.

>ambient house
No, that's not a thing, fuck off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSmgaDRsMpA

>>68812547
that wasn't me

>>68812537
They only rate this because it was on Deep Medi.

Also Grime is dance music, with MCing from garage and jungle passed down via dancehall tradition.

>>68812561
it's a joke senpai
and while topper top is crazy bait, the instrumental and the tune on the flip are both great.

>>68812554
>in what way did I admit that?
>ok

>No, that's not a thing, fuck off.
We basically created our own genre in a small kind of way by calling our music Ambient House, which nobody had ever done before – and we built our own blueprint.

~Alex Paterson

lol, stick your head in the sand them along with your superiority complex EDMtard, you so special with your singles and Nodata bookmark.

>>68812556
not house

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best house album ever

>>68810717
>trash tunes aren't worth talking about because they're shit.
>bait tunes aren't worth talking about because all there is to say about them has been said already.
>Setfillers are boring but necessary, a set can't be all bangers.
None of these had any circulation on /bleep/ or /mu/ until half, max a year ago.

Seriously, the 3-4 of you need to fuck off to /r/grime and stop shitting up /bleep/ and /mu/ with your shit knowledge and shit music tastes. You retards and your autism have said enough on this board and website.

>>68812592
>EDMtard
I don't think that means what you think it means. EDMtards don't listen to /bleep/.

>>68812554
>No, that's not a thing, fuck off.
lmao

>>68807267
what's wrong with studio records?

>>68812592
That was a question, hence the "so?"
I was legitimately confused as to what you wanted to show me with that image.

Also just because you call your music something doesn't mean it is that. Because it doesn't anything like what you're calling it.
There's nothing ambient about it and there's nothing house about it either.

So why call it that?

>>68812638
Ah, le good ol' "our EDM is good EDM because it's underground EDM so it's not EDM" meme.

>>68812640
there aren't that many house producers that make them as the genre has historically revolved around singles, EPs, and compilations.

>>68812619
I don't even know what you're trying to say.
Also, does anyone actually listen to grime?

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I deeply love /bleep/ but the album format just doesn't work with the style of music. It's as simple as that - Entire albums of club music are tedious. Singles are where it's at.

I think it has something to do with the fact that an album is a bit of an intimate thing, it's like a diary. It's supposed to be a vision of a "performer" as opposed to the anonymous /bleep/ artist. Performance is key. Every track has it's purpose. This is not so with club music, where the only real goal is to get bodies moving. Anything else is secondary. If you have good rhythm you don't even really need instrumentation, in the case of "minimal techno", which often eschews instrumentation in favor of rhythm.

Pic related is my choice, but even then it really starts lagging towards the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZohO-F6O9oE

>>68812665
literally all good house producers have released at least a single album

only the talnetless /bleep/ trash producers don't have any albums

>>68812665
that's true, but you can generally regard most studio LPs as compilations as they typically include the bigger singles anyway.

that said, i'm a bigger fan of EPs and singles generally.

>>68812662
Yes, because Avicii and Skrillex are the same thing as Basic Channel and Steve Hurley

>>68812711
>Basic Channel
>EDM

>>68812711
>take Skrillex/Avicii tune
>add reverb
>#underground /bleep/ classic finished

>>68812734
Basic Channel is /bleep/ and apparently /bleep/ is "EDM" now.

>>68812684
>It's supposed to be a vision of a "performer" as opposed to the anonymous /bleep/ artist
And this right here is what stands at the core of the music.
It's not about personalities.
Club music is lacking in exciting or eccentric people actually producing the music.
And that's not a bad thing.

It's all about the music and having a good time, not the people making or playing the music.

And as you mentioned, an album is something far more personal, than a 12'' with a name and 1-4 tunes on it.

Oi wuddup

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ITT white men attempt to figure out that dang nab black music.

>>68812698
addendum: i probably have no business even listening to /bleep/ music as i don't live in a city with anything resembling a club scene. we have DJs, but they just spin top40 remixes.

i like tighter sets of tunes (hence why i prefer EPs and singles, less filler) and mixes, but it's pretty exclusionary to disregard somebody's interest in a music genre/scene based on whether they listen to LPs versus singles.

>>68812734
they totally are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUD4RaRSSio

>>68812761
That's actually why I gravitate to club music. I really dislike the attention-needy worldview that performers seem to always have and always need to propagate. I don't need some to hear about a person's inner turmoil, music was never really about that for me. I read for that kind of thing.

>>68812837
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

>>68812869
not an argument

>>68812869
that's literally house music

are you implying that it's not his favorite house record?

>>68812911
go shit urself in ur local wallmart u dumb fuck

>>68812853
It's also the reason why mainstream EDM is such a disgusting thing.
It tries to subvert this notion that you yourself are at the core and instead presents this "rockstar" image.

Watch this video here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aedbS-YxBZE

The music itself is irrelevant here, pay attention to the people what they're doing and, especially during the first half, and the way the video presents the DJ here.

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>>68810584
pretty good

>>68812963
are you suggesting that the people there aren't enjoying the music? they spent hard-earned dollars to get fucked up, listen to loud music and celebrate the way humans have done for millennia. act like people in clubs aren't doing the exact same thing.

i get that most modern EDM is a derivative money grab. but these people (b-but normies!) are enjoying a very regular, human experience.

>>68812999
I'm not. I'm sure they're having a good time, why else would they go.
This isn't what I am complaining about at all.

>>68812963
i see people having fun lad

>>68813030
What are the glowing things in their hands?

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What is house? The answer is always some greeting card bullshit about "life, love, happiness...." … House is not universal. House is hyper-specific … The contexts from which the deep house sound emerged are forgotten: sexual and gender crises, transgender sex work, black market hormones, drug and alcohol addiction, loneliness, racism, HIV, ACT-UP, Tompkins Square Park, police brutality, queer-bashing, underpayment, unemployment and censorship—all at 120 beats per minute.

>>68813051
house was all homos, no trannies.

>>68813018
>mainstream EDM is such a disgusting thing
>proceeds to criticize the performer
>implies the audience don't care about the music by calling it irrelevant

>>68813050
fuck off luddite

>>68812884
>>68812911
It's shit though and the equivalent of saying NMH is your favorite folk artist
Hang yourself

>>68813051
death of the author, I am my own context, I am my own creator

>>68813074
>outdated 1967 meme
kek

>>68813073
sad that your greatest accomplishment in life will be receiving (you)'s in /bleep/ threads.

>Ambient house was a mostly British development in the beginning of the 1990s, employing beats, synthesizers and vocals in styles similar to House music, treated with effects that are often described as "dream-like" or "chilled out" in order to provide a more atmospheric, relaxed feel that can be compared to Ambient. While never growing into a larger scene, it provided an important stepping stone for several similar movements in the following years, including Ambient Techno, Ambient Dub, Psybient, and Progressive House. Key works include Chill Out by The KLF and the early career of close associates The Orb, e.g. The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld.

https://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=alltime&genre_include=1&genres=Ambient+House&include_child_genres=t&include=both&limit=none&countries=

>>68812556
Post punk,grunge techno with house sprinkles on top.

>Microhouse is a stripped down, minimal form of House music, originating in the late 90s, which takes influence from Minimal Techno, Glitch and IDM. Although often built around a steady 4/4 time signature, it differs from traditional House music with regard to its use of samples: short clips of static, glitches and sometimes even human voices are often included, as opposed to House's common use of drum machine samples, such as hi-hats and kick drums.

https://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=alltime&genre_include=1&genres=Microhouse&include_child_genres=t&include=both&limit=none&countries=

>>68813067
Black american homos in US slums, not white trannies in luxurious apartments in Japan.

>>68813071
I have not criticized the performer, but rather the way this event is focusing on the performer. No matter who performs at a mainstream EDM thing, they're all going to be presented as this "larger than life" idea. An EDM performer is not a "person" anymore.
This is what I am criticizing and what I called disgusting, because it's goes against what I established earlier to be the core focus of club music.

I called the music irrelevant, because I wanted you to look at the people.

>>68813110
Don't give no focks

>>68813158
>club music

Not all house is club music, b2bleep

>>68813158
if you hadn't noticed, this music isn't being performed at a club. it's at a huge festival with tens of thousands of people.

it's like getting mat at buttrock for selling out stadiums when you could easily go to a small club and listen to some teenager play shoegaze. it's apples and oranges m8.

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in some cases , compilations are good:
https://youtu.be/LOLE1YE_oFQ
https://youtu.be/LDS7boNwtKk
https://youtu.be/QIdimVDuSEU

>>68813181
Weeeeeeeew

>>68813181
Still waiting on that house that isn't club music.

>>68813158
its because more ppl have stopped worshipping god
with no religion we now worship dj's and celebrities.
get used to it buddy

>>68813184
But the festivals that do book /bleep/ artists don't glorify them in such a way either.
Have you been to Dickmenthol for instance?

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>>68813250
>>68813287
You're living in denial so theres no point trying to educate yourself, you just deny house music thats not club music isn't house music, must be all that MDMA killing your braincells.

>>68813312
You haven't shown me any still.
How hard could it be?

Just show me some house that isn't "club"

>>68813312
This is so far removed from house. You honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

>>68813310
i imagine that has a lot more to do with the production choices of the individual artists.

also, what is more marketable to the general festival-going public? ambient house music, or avicii?

Even if the artist didn't intend for it to be played in a club it's still club music because the things that make it a house record are so because they work in a club setting. The club is the meta-light that guides it

>>68813342
>>68813344
See, denial

>>68813119

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>>68812617
u posted the wrong one

>>68813361
Stockhausen can be played in a club, musique concrete is now EDM according to s/t

>>68813382
Chill Out is a straight-forward ambient album. It is you that is in denial.
>reads wiki article once

>>68813359
Ambient house is still not a thing.

But other variations of house music are insanely marketable, but aren't EDMshit.
For instance bassline ticks all the EDM and goes off with the EDM crowd (as evidenced by the Skrillex Boiler Room) yet it's not popular at all.

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>implying there are no good house albums
pic related, it's pretty much perfect (except for that faggy love song in the middle)

>>68813395
I see where you want to go with this, but Stockhausen isn't house, sorry.

>>68813417
See, denial

>>68813434
Just because something CAN be played in a club, that doesn't make it club music. The Orb never made club music, they still produce house music.

>>68813207
I see your good taste, cheers

>>68813450
Ok then let's do the "real genre test".
Post 5 tunes by different artists and explain what they have in common and why they are ambient house.

>>68813398
Everyone knows Chill Out is ambient house except the EDMtards in /bleep/ trying to prove all house is degenerate druggie music, and failing lol

>>68813417
so your complaint is that fans don't care about the same genres of house music as you? or rather that there is less diversity in the tunes beign played?

you realize that if bassline hits big in the U.S., obnoxious "EDM house" producers will just be replaced by obnoxious "EDM bassline" producers, right?

>>68813476
>''real genre test''

lol, I bet you demonstrated for a 2nd Brexit vote because you can't handle being wrong or losing

Best of 3
No, best of 5!

>>68813463
It's not "can be played in a club", but rather "works well when played in a club".
I'm aware that this doesn't really mean much to someone like you but that's all it is.

>>68813525
Thats completely subjective, try again

>>68813498
Not at all.
The point is that there is plenty of marketable non-EDM house, nothing more, nothing less.

It's not up to the people playing the music how the stage is set up. I told you not to pay attention to the music because we were talking about the staging of this event.

>>68813607
Is it really?
That's what I meant when I said it doesn't much to someone like you.
Isn't there a certain quality that all tunes have that work well in a club?

>>68808728
THIS

>>68813694
depends on the club/clubber

a freetekno fan probably won't be intested in a minimal techno set

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2016 AOTY
https://youtu.be/3xxraG9fke4
https://youtu.be/Lrq1ZTjqUHs

>>68813912
Of course it does, but there is a certain unifying aspect all these tunes have and that's what I mean.

House music is inherently IDM. You COULD dance to it, but don't try to associate it with EDM /bleep/ garbage

>>68813477
Keep telling yourself that, sped :^)