/classical/

well do you

>>68676970
Good thing someone made a /classical/ thread. So, I'm thinking of listening only to classical music during november instead of black metal, since I already know black metal a lot, while classical music is the most "foreign" genre of music to me. How should I do this? Perhaps learning classical composers chronollogically is the best way? Recommendations? Is there some kind of /classical/ copy and paste intro text?

>>68677026

I kind of already did a nothing but black metal october instead of november, so i'll join you on that one.

>>68677026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UJOaGIhG7A

Here ya go kid

>>68677026
Mozart.

>>68677026
If you want drama then look no further than Stravinsky, Tchaikovsky, Dvorak, Shostakovich, Prokofiev, and Rachmaninoff.

post the most emotionally severe work you can think of

>>68677311
not him but how are dvorak's string quartets? i got a complete panocha quartet collection downloaded and i'm bouta listen to it.

>>68677323

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA88AS6Wy_4

>>68677323
can't get much more severe than the finale of Tchaik's Piano Trio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOlqDzM0U3g

>>68677337
2bh none of his chamber music that I've listened to really stood out to me but I've only listened to a handful of it and i'm overdue for another stab at em

>>68677171
I'm asking myself about how should I do it really. Last year's NBBMN I listened to black metal chronollogically for a while then just listened to the things I liked the most. But I don't know if that'll work for classical music since it has a way longer history

>>68677698
listen to like one or two representative pieces from each noteworthy composer and just go from there

>>68677206

anyone feel like this piece has a really aclimactic end? The climax is at the end of the first part, and the whole second part just feels like filler

>>68677026
>>68676970

>in after how do I into classical?
>General Folder #1. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical. Also contains a folder of live recordings/recitals by some outstanding performers.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General Folder #2. Mostly Romantic up to 20th century/modern, but also includes recordings of music by Bach, Mozart and others.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
>General Folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>General Folder #4. Renaissance up to early/mid-20th century. Also contains a folder of Scarlatti sonate and another live recording/recital folder.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
>General Folder #5. Renaissance up to late 19th century.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
>General Folder #6. Very eclectic mix.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!O8pj1ZiL!mAfQOneAAMlDlrgkqvzfEg
>Renaissance Folder #1. Mass settings.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Renaissance Folder #2. Motets and madrigals (plus Leiden choirbooks).
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
>Debussy. There is an accompanying chart, available on request.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera Folder. Contains recorded video productions of about 10 well-known operas, with a bias towards late Romantic.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Crudblud stuff
http://crudblud.sjm.so/

>>68676970
Listened to Mahler's 6th by chance today. Something clicked, I guess. I actually like it now whereas before, I hated the piece.

Been rotating between the slow movement and the finale today. I still think the first two movements are a bit too militaristic, but the last two movements are heavenly.

>tfw you have a four year education in music and you used to be a pro on classical music but you've forgotten all the good stuff after years of neglect and now you're stuck with looking for suggestions on a norwegian codfishing board

>>68678282
It's ok I'm trying to come back up to speed from a year long popular music binge

>>68678224
The 6th is Boulez's favorite symphony iirc

>>68677026
If you like metal, then try Stravinsky's Rite of Spring.

>>68677516
Listen to his Piano Quartets and Quintet and String Quintets and Sextet

Imo Borodin and Grieg's string Quartets are the only good ones in the Romantic tradition.

OFFICIAL COMPOSER POWER RANKINGS:

1. Mozart
2. Bach
3. Beethoven

-POWER GAP-

Everyone else

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>>68680319
>Mozart
ersatz shit. D+

>>68677337
#10 and #12 are some of my favorite quartets. god-tier melodies, definitely give them a listen

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>>68680319
>mozart
>better than beethoven

>>68680356
If you think Haydn is better than Mozart you probably don't have ears

Does anyone ever thing about things such as how would Bach or Beethoven react to hearing a Schoenberg string quartet?

>>68680703
He's a lot better.

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No one discusses anything anymore.

Who else Satie here?

Who made the best organ works?

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Is he dare I say it, walmart debussy?

>>68683664
more like debussy is walmart ravel

>>68680319
Beethoven is a shit tier composer actually.

So is Bach unless that refers to Johann CHRISTIAN.

>>68684552
Hello Richard.

>>68684577
CLT likes beethoven though

>>68684616
CLT trolled thovenposters all the time.
At least when drunk. No one else shills JC either.

>>68684638
>>68684616
>>68684577
Beethoven was a NIGGER

>>68680760
Mozart thought Haydn was better than Mozart. So I guess he doesn't have ears then.

"Haydn is for the mind, Mozart is for the Heart" I think the saying goes

>>68677224
And here is Mozart shitposting, he is in every thread

>>68684860
no wonder mozart sucks at composition
he doesnt have ears lol

>>68684860
>Mozart thought Haydn was better than Mozart
[citation needed]

>>68684851
Everyone has African heritage anon.

Dont believe me? get your DNA checked

>>68684939
"He alone has the secret of making me smile and touching me to the bottom of my soul.” –W.A. Mozart on Franz Joseph Haydn

>"He alone"
>not "Me alone"

There's your citation

>>68684997
It's just that Mozart, being a humble and more or less a perfect man would NEVER say something as selfish as his own music being better than Haydn's.

Haydn is indeed one of the best composers of all time, just not as good as Mozart.
>>68684942
I am a pure son of the Nephilim from the north pole, speak for yourself hue-man

>>68684997
That quote doesn't show that Mozart thinks Haydn was a superior composer.

What is your favorite piano concerto?

>>68685382
Mozart 25.
17 is also an acceptable option.

Since /comp/'s dead, what are some ways of creating the effect of the second theme in the recapitulation and in the tonic this time, without tonality? In fact, in general how might I non-tonally differentiate sections? I'm not aiming to be overtly atonal with this piece, there are definitely tonal centers here and there, but there's very little in the way of harmonic function, and as a result an audience wouldn't feel the effect too strongly if I distinguished them tonally like normal (or worse, it might come off as hokey).

>>68685044
>I am a pure son of the Nephilim from the north pole, speak for yourself hue-man
Just wait until you get your DNA checked. Its pretty cheap, you just send in a saliva sample or something.

What's the matter? scared? can't afford it?

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I am disappoint.

>>68685382
Beethoven 4 and Prokofiev 2

>>68686096
>how to differentiate sections
Try different registers

>>68686096
registers, figurations, harmonic rhythm, texture as in number of voices, position of melody lines (melody in bass voice etc.), dynamics, articulation...

any combination of these things that differs from the expo.

>bog

>>68681074

Beethoven would probably like it (if he could actually hear it), judging from "der grosse fuge" Bach would've said it's an ungodly noise.

Hey dudes, I would like some reccomendations for where I should go from here, still new to the western classical tradition but here's what I've already checked out and liked:

Dvorak's New world symphony
Vivaldi's four seasons
Holst - Planets suite
Bach - St. matthews passion, his organ fugues
Stravinsky - Rite of spring, petrushka
Also some choir dudes like Palestrina, Tallis, Tavener, Gesualdo.. I need some suggestions to get out of this entry level hell.

>>68687994
More Dvorak, more Vivaldi, more Holst, more Bach, more Stravinsky; or find some stuff and listen to it

>>68684997
Wtf? I love taking out of context quotes and misrepresenting them now!

>>68685382
Mozart 23

>>68687994
Prokofiev's Classical Symphony and Copland's Rodeo.

I have to put a playlist together for my grandparents anniversary, classical music of course. I don't know much about classical music as I am only just beginning to get into it. Anyway it will be a party heme so it needs to be easy to listen to and upbeat sort of music. So far I have the Brandenburg concertos. Any suggestions?

>>68687994
Get as many different recordings of Mozart's music as possible, then you won't ever have to listen to anything else ever again.

>>68690062

but i don't really like Mozart all that much desu senpai

>>68690696
Then you're an irredeemable philistine and need to kill yourself Tbh

>>68689834
Mendelssohn's Wedding March
Lohengrin Overture
Bach Aria

>>68690709

"A man who prefers Bach over Mozart can never be considered a philistine by any, other than one who is a philistine himself." - Theodoore Roosevelt, 1915

>>68691329
>autistic, fat, retarded, d*tch protestant
>unable to comprehend Mozart
No surprises here.

>>68691370

"It is truly the mark of a great mind, the one who rejects the works of Mozart, and takes to the works of Bach instead." - Benjamin Franklin, 1780

>>68691424
Also an autistic, fat retarded protestant, except English this time, which is one of the most subhuman and aesthetically backwards shitraces to ever blight this earth.

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there was a clown sighting at my girlfriends house last night

my god damn pathetic penis folks

>>68691482

"Mozart fucking sucks dude, Bach is my jam, and it should be your jam too." - Nikola Tesla, 1921

>>68691494
Wrong, Mozart is in fact the greatest composer of all time and only stunted manchildren and autistic mongoloids don't realize this.

>>68691491
Was it Pagliacci?

>>68691562
>Listening to an African composer
Fuck off coal burner.

So is Haydn just a meme or what?

>>68692955
No, he is a possible contender for the second greatest composer of all time, right after Mozart (though of course leagues below him)
>>68691651
At this point I am starting to believe that Mozart was not even human, someone as gifted and wonderful as him could not have been a mere man.

Debussy chart pls

>>68680319
>>68691562
not this


also ligeti chart pls

>>68693532
>ligeti
Tie a noose you mongoloid

>>68693735
Perhaps you like Mozart

>>68693851
Of course, he is the greatest composer of all time.

>le mozart meme XD
You rich white people are so lame.

>>68693959
>belittling the best composer of all time because of the darkness of zer's skin
>implying /classical/ isn't mostly LGBT+ Muslims
Typical.

>>68693959
I am not white, I am greek

>>68693998
This. Classical is the genre of peace.

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>tfw to intelligent too listen too classical

>>68694444
Can't argue with those digits.

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sup, guys

i was hearing chopin's the nocturne and i simply loved that song

gotta love classical

can you rec more like that?

>tfw went to a party last night and got chatting about top 5 composer's and had to defend Mozart from people who insisted he was overrated

I could discard their opinion because they then went on to insist that Kaufmann's Italian rep is really good.

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>>68693417

>>68695578
That is one fucking ugly chart

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>>68691587
This has given me an idea. Give me a week and I'll be viral

>>68695600

It's a bit useless since all the debussy stuff is already corrected in one folder so it's only useful if you want to know what is in it before downloading.

>>68695630
>corrected
why did I write that instead of collected

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who's qtest

>>68695776
brahms obv

>>68695776
1. Brahms
2. Verdi
3. Dvorak
4. Mendelssohn
5. Schumann
6. Joachim
7. Young Brahms
8. Vivaldi
9. Beethoven
10. Chopin
11. Liszt
12. Handel
13. Tchaikovsky
14. Rossini
15. Mozart
16. Schubert
17. Haydn
18. Bach
19. Wagner
20. Debussy

Clara is already in my harem so doesn't count

Recs plz

I rly enjoyed this
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/vladimir_sofronitsky/scriabin_recital/

And Chopins Nocturnes

>>68696057
You may also enjoy cuck porn.

>>68696057
Debussy and Janacek

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post your waifu, /classical/

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>During the summer of 1921, when he was forced to leave the resort because he was a Jew, although he had converted to Protestantism in 1898 was a traumatic experience.
>"I have at last learnt the lesson that has been forced upon me this year, and I shall never forget it. It is that I am not a German, not a European, indeed perhaps scarcely even a human being (at least, the Europeans prefer the worst of their race to me), but that I am a Jew."

what a crybaby, jesus

>>68697331
Haha yeah, 2bad he didn't get the gas chamber

>>68697387
nah, that would have made his music more popular

>>68697408
That would have been ideal.

>>68697440
ideally shit

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bump

>>68698279
LOL at the Ocean's 11 one

>>68698279
wtf I hate Debussy now...

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>>68678020
This is quite the trove. Thanks, anon

>common practice music
*tips fedora*

>>68699029
Only "Romantic" music is fedora.

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Reminder.

>>68699169
>ballet is high-brow
Reminder that this image is cancer.

>>68699120
Romantic music is a part of "common practice era music" Tbh.

And there is literally nothing more fedora than being such a humongous faggot that you pretend that plainchant is actually worth listening to, those guys are the real fedoras.

>>68699169
This attempts to categorize American trends. Americans cannot be high brow under any circumstance. This image is nonsense.

>>68699331
>Romantic music is a part of "common practice era music"
Obviously.
Fedoras can't into Mozart and Bach is too religious.

>>68699385
Only like half of Bach's music is religious

>>68699406
That'd still a couple hundred pieces.
Come to think of it, would the chorales be considered sacred music?

>>68699385
Bach is fedora too.

Viennese classicism is really the only acceptable style. Coincidentally it is also objectively the best music ever written.

>>68699566
That's not exactly a coincidence.

>>68699603
Well it is, because as the case of J.S. Bach demonstrates, one can write really really good music and still be fedora.

Maybe galant music is also acceptable.

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can you guys post some infographics about classical music? thx

>>68699883
No, read a book you philistine.

The only acceptable musical style is serialism

>>68676970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDmFp-IEGnI&index=15&list=LLV1FMcdmOEPVhOybhgcgIIQ

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>>68699955
>Horowitz
>Mozart

Trash desu senpai

>>68699940
I too was once 16 and thought I was smart for using masturbatory generative techniques a literal monkey could do and reading Adorno.

>>68700082
So did you suffer some kind of severe brain damage when you turned 17?

Considering only one style of music acceptable is the most fedora of all.

>>68691329
Mozart BTFO

Bach's passions shit on Mozart's operas (and requiem, and Mass in C minor) in terms of emotional impact and writing

>>68699955
>old people have weak immune systems, so they are always coughing and ruining live performances
>they are the only ones going to classical concerts

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>>68700265
forgot webm

>>68700125
No I spent a few more years wallowing in the post-modern abyss, and then I realized that Viennese classicism was already the most perfect musical, if not just general artistic movement to ever exist and that everything that has followed was merely perversion and distortion.

At that point, post-modernity had completely destroyed music for me, I had thrown out every single bar of music I ever wrote, had dropped out of conservatory and had not touched my instrument for years, I didn't even really listen to music. But then on a whim I got an urge to listen to Mozar again, I was moved to tears.

>>68677026
do a nothing but Petzold november

>>68677323
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDKdrQgp_q0

>>68699940
Go to bed Boulez

>>68700419
I already am, forever ;(

>>68700448
;_;

>>68699940
acceptable by whom exactly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZs01TevxbM&index=83&list=PLspTbgnRiTcSfzy1oDE4efkZUG63HN-nV

Just thought I might post some Sorabji.

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>>68700319
>twatzart fans

>>68676970
How do I into listening to classical guitar pieces? Best composers? I have pleb taste in classical in general, but I really want to explore classical guitar works.

>>68677323
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L44Ml8K_mDg

nothing else even comes close for me personally

>>68700471
While the tonal system, in an atrophied or vestigial form, is still used today in popular and commercial music, and even occasionally in the works of backward-looking serious composers, it is no longer employed by serious composers of the mainstream, it has been replaced or succeeded by the 12-tone system.

—Charles Wuorinen, Simple Composition (1978), opening paragraph

Would seeing the seattle symphony perform the messiah be a good first experience for live classical music?

>>68700500
>green frog meme shitter hates Mozart
Further proof that Mozart is only disliked by autists.

>>68700517
>taking the opinions of the man wrote this abomination seriously

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9pb3RP12YE

>>68700557
My digits say otherwise, and your lack of digits says all I need to know you Mozart autist

>>68700240
(not true, by the way.)

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>>68700517
>1978

>>68700557
mozart's the most fun composer

>>68701007
*Haydn

Thoughts on Messiaen?

>>68701184
I liked Turangalila and Quartet for the End of Time

>>68701184
DUDE BIRDS LMAO

>>68701425
I didn't care for the birds.

>>68701425
t. Rautavaara

>>68701441
DUDE THE CHURCH LMAO

>>68695776
Mozart and Vivaldi

>>68695776
chopin vivaldi mozart

Thoughts on Eshpai?

Any at all?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTbDqEzG11k

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>>68699169

No, because Danny Brown is more patrician for some reason (the reason is that the average age on this board is 16).

>>68680319
Wagner was the greatest artistic genius in the history of Western civilization you hack

>this board
>discuss
pick one and only one

>>68700500
I prefer "Mehzart"

>>68703244
What is this even supposed to be a reply to?

>>68701425
nice lmao

>>68703324
Maybe if you care about movie soundtracks and Stockhousen operas.

EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD LISTEN TO RITE OF SPRING RIGHT NOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>68699169
>The Game

Fuck you.

>>68680319

forgetting about

>Wagner
>Tchaikovsky
>Vivaldi
>Holst
>Grieg
>Chopin
>Prokofiev

ok pleb

>>68698279
where's the chopin one

>>68704814
What, you mean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpSaZ3A5Kj8
?

fuck your keyboard/string works, who made the best plucked string stuff?

>>68705650
>literally only one (1) even passable composer in the entire list
>reddit tier firetruck music and teen girl music
wew

Kalevi Aho any good?

>>68705856
Tchaik 4

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>>68676970
Name a greater melodymaker than Veracini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il3NgjbPW8s
Protip: you can't

>>68699378
I thought it's English

>>68700500
It's pronounced "moh-tsart", stupid frog poster.

>>68707389
Mozart
#rekt

>>68707537
>Mozart
>good at anything
Refer to >>68700500.

>>68699169
Bourbon and ginger ale might not be the classiest drink but it's the tastiest.

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>you will never fall in mutual love with your piano teacher's qt3.14 15 year old daughter and smash on the low before running away at 18 and live a happy marriage for years before going insane in your later years and dying a madman

music for this feel bros?

>>68707922
i'd smash Clara desu

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>>68707938
makes two of us brother

What's some good flute music?

>>68709555
Explosante-fixe

>>68676970
I missed Bach
I've been too busy fucking people to listen to my favorite german ;_;

>>68709555
BWV 1013 /Bach
"La Notte" /Vivaldi
That Prokofiev sonata

>>68705856
Bartók 4 Mvt. 4
Unless you count harpsichord as plucked strings, in which case Bach, Couperin, Scarletti all the way

>>68687912
lol no
but bach was way better at writing dissonant, chromatic fugue
he would def have shown bitchthoven his power level

Wake up you gay butt fuckers I should be sleeping right now but I can't because I miraculously recovered from a flu at midnight and can't go back to sleep

>>68677026
This has always been my personal favorite
https://youtu.be/BFWDEefYww4

>>68709555
Petzold

>>68691329
>Theodoore Roosevelt
literally who

>>68698279
you spent so much time doing this
lmao

>listen to debussy
>cry at the majesty of his usage of whole tone scales
>suddenly all the rock music i listen to is deemed emotionless and trash
>suddenly realise where all the IDM producers get their chords from

what do i do /classical/ this is too much for me to handle

>>68689834
if you want to be cheap just look at "2 hours of classical music" and other similar videos on youtube

>>68710551
listen to beethoven's ragtime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQMCfqFr4XA

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>>68710623

Even MORE proof that Beethoven was black. He was even playing nigjigs 80 years before everyone else.

What do you guys think about composing on finale? I'm writing for piano which i don't play and so far it has helped gets some cool ideas. what problems do you think might arise from this?

>>68713062

do it on paper like a real pro, i hated working with finale in school.

>>68710551
Listen to Ravel instead ;^)

>>68700507
There are some great transcription of john dowlands pieces. (I used to play a fancy by him which though not that hard was beautiful and unspeakably heart wrechning) Bachs lute and violin sonatas/suites are probably the best things you can get for classical guitar. The Lute Suite in E Major for instance (I played the Prelude and the Gavotte en rondo) or the Fugue from the A Minor Suite, not to speak of the Ciaconna in D Minor. Personally I quite like F. Sor as a 'true' guitar composer, in the sense that he actually played guitar and specifically composed for it. The Mozart Variation and the study in b minor are well known. Tarrega of course is another standard guitar composer - Ricuerdos de la Hambra or Capricho Arabe. Albeniz might be another name to look into, and of course for more recent stuff: Barrios.
As a side note: I once played a Passacaglia by Burkhart which was just outstanding, i doubt though that there exist a recording of it.

Why is the Art of Fugue so less performed appreciated compared to WTC and the Goldberg Variations?

What is the critic consensus on Bach's works?

>>68691329
>>68691424

>Psychopaths like Bog

No surprise there.

>>68713522
>the Art of Fugue
composing exercises

thoughts on Arvo

>>68713522

Because a very small percentage of the WTC and the GV are incidentally musical whereas the Art of Fugue is a Formalism incarnate.

>>68713628
didn't know about the popularity of Arvo
http://www.arvo.org/

>>68677026
If youre in to heavy shit try stravinskys symphony in three movements

am i pleb for liking romantical like Dvorak and smetana

>>68701184
Cannot get into him no matter how hard I try. Probably the only composer I've encountered in my last ~5 years of listening to nothing but classical music to whom this applies.

>>68713776
Listen to more Dvorak than just the 9th symphony and you'll be excused

>tfw not many Luke Passions going about
The episode with the two crucified criminals either side of Jesus is one of the most emotionally powerful bits of the Bible

>>68713628
One of the better modern composers.

>>68709555
Quantz
Frederick the Great
>>68710289
Vivaldi wrote two La Notte concertos you fuck.

What is the current state of contemporary music? What are the critics' favourites?

Do we have another Beethoven or Bach?

>>68715386
richard daniel james
daniel lopatin
the list goes on

I started getting more into classical and I'm trying to go in chronological order. I recently listened to "Sidus preclarum. Complete Motets [Mala Punica] (1997)" by originally by Johannes Ciconia. I liked it a lot and gave it 5 stars on rym.

>>68715386
Classical is dead m8

>>68676970
So was Pachelbel a one hit wonder or nah?

>>68715386
Am*rican music and J*ws killed Western Classical Music for good. There's nothing today that could even touch what was available even under 100 years ago

>>68716088
>Hexachordum Apollonis: gift to Buxtehude whom cherished it
>Musicalische Ergotzung: chamber works that pale Bach's Brandenburg concertos
>countless amazing keyboard chaconnes
>one hit wonder
LMAO

can anybody give me some sweet harp music

>>68716446
I haven't claimed that he is a one hit wonder, but I've pointed out that somebody else did. I'll then have a closer look at his compositions so I know what to check out next.

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What's the best complete set of Beethoven's piano sonatas?

>>68676970
is it just because of the beard or does Dvorak really look like Arvo Part

>>68687994
>Dvorak's New world symphony
mendessohn's hebrides
>Vivaldi's four seasons
vivaldi's concerto madrigalesco, also laclaire's violin sonatas
>Holst - Planets suite
also sprach zarathustra
>Bach - St. matthews passion, his organ fugues
bach's french suites, brahms' deutsche requiem
>Stravinsky - Rite of spring, petrushka
tale of the soldier

>>68677026
Here's top 5 best composers
Bach
Beethoven
Mozart
Chopin
Brahms
Now listen to them

>>68715386
Wolfgang Rihm

>>68677026

As far as I've seen Mahler is extremely easy to understand if you come from /mu/core music.

Listen to his 9th Symphony.

>>68715386
Richard Einhorn

What's the best performance of Catalogue d'oiseaux?

>>68677323
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWPACef2_eY

>>68719803
Peter Hill

>>68687994
Start listening to more piano compositions (Ravel, Debussy, Chopin, Schumann, etc.)

Debussy and Ravel also have amazing ensemble compositions.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJJiUeBx-IM

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5kf0cFp4Jg

>>68720002
Why does that string quartet say it's an anime?

If I can tell what key a work is in without looking does that mean I have perfect pitch?

>>68720415
Probably

>>68716914

Similar eyes/brow

>>68716994
>Dvorak:Mendelssohn
??

>>68720415
It means you're listening to pleb shit that isn't dodecaphonic

>>68717815
Mahler can be hit or miss. Still don't understand how people can sit through 40 minutes of awfulness in the 2nd symphony before it gets ok and then call it the best piece ever written.

And that's not even getting into listening to Mahler after you've read what Adorno has to say about his music.

>>68720699
I don't give a single fuck what that commie jew has to say about shit

>>68720779
Are you triggered by different viewpoints?

>>68720868
No -- just degenerates with inferior genes.

>>68716517
arrau,gulda,schanbel,etc

>romanticism got progressively worse
y/n

>>68707490
No Tbh, it is chock-full of American mid-century memes.

>2016
>listening to clASSical

Only excusable if you are a music major desu.

A lot of the early band literature is great. Holst's "Second Suite" and Grainger's "Lincolnshire Posy" are the shit.

>>68720955
Jews are superior tho

>>68721170
Lol then why did they get themselves killed by the millions like 70 years ago?

>>68715386
Current Status: Everyone does whatever the fuck they want

Critics Favourites: Lera Auerbach (Modern Beethoven), Tristan Murail, Arvo Part (Modern Bach), John Psathas, Brian Ferneyhough, Georg Friedrich Haas, Krzysztof Penderecki.

>>68721221
>implying the shlomocaust killed millions

>>68721248
>Lera Auerbach (Modern Beethoven)
>Arvo Part (Modern Bach)
Take it back.

>>68721221
>why did they get themselves killed by the millions like 70 years ago
It was worth it at the end, white cuck.

>>68721267
Nah, that was a hoax. They must have gotten themselves killed on accident somehow 'cus they're so dumb lol.

>>68721290
or maybe they didn't die at all

>>68721586
Then where did they go???

>>68721269
about as close as it gets.

Lera Auerbach - vurtuoso pianist performer who writes symphonies and solo piano pieces
Arvo Part - Literally studied and emulated Bach (see his Collage uber B-A-C-H) and now mostly writes religious pieces with choir and orchestra

>>68721221
People have hated jews for all time. Christopher Columbus killed jews in his spare time for example.

Its only after the holocaust that in became unfashionable to hate Jews.

Because Jewish people learn classical instruments from a very young age - violin, clarinet, cello etc. It makes them very good performers. Its to do with the instrumentation of klezmer music. They use a lot of classical instruments.

Late Liszt is really different

Honestly doesn't even sound like the same composer

>>68721148
>not liking ass
why are you browsing 4chan if you haven't even hit puberty yet

>>68721161
Persichetti's and Hindemith's band symphonies are awesome

Does anyone here know what the opera is in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQB45d45Zpg
and the background song in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udI-Go8KK2Q&feature=youtu.be

I can't for the life of me remember what they are called and /wsr/ is useless as well

>>68721834
That's obviously a girl.

>>68721834
sorry i couldn't watch that last one past the introduction

>>68721907
Yeah it is. I honestly don't give a shit about the video, but the damn song has been stuck in my head for two days man.

>>68721930
Still, it's worth pointing out that if you pulled down her panties, you would definitely find a pussy.

>>68721916
I understand :(

What is a good classical piece in A-minor? I listened to Fur Elise and Beethoven's string quartet.

>>68721617
Really makes you think...

>>68722119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbZiVBjQqy0

>>68721734
The only composer really influenced by Klemzer was Kurt Weill.

>>68722254
Its not that people are influenced by klezmer, but that many Jewish people start playing classical instruments at a very young age, making them good performers.

>>68721834
I think the second one is Tales of Hoffman.

>>68722254

Mahler was influenced by Klemzer, but he had to tone it down cause of bad reviews.

>>68713468

Is he any good.

>>68722313
It sounds very similar yes, but it's not that. Thanks though.

>>68722379

He is one of the most celebrated composers from the Romantic period. If you like Debussy you'll most likely like both Ravel and Chopin.

>>68722514
Ravel is a modernist

>>68722941
I've always called those early modern french composers, with their orientalism and sinophilia impressionists. They don't have explicit modernist leanings like the futurists or second viennese school.

>>68723421
Impressionists are modernists. Also applies to painting.

How was Bartok able to compose entire symphonies without knowing how to play instrument?

Are some people able to just hear music in their head? Because if I try to do so I can just mimic one instrument at a time with my inner voice.

>>68723930

*Berlioz, my bad

>>68723930
>>68723947
Maybe, or maybe he had no fucking clue what he was doing which is why his music is shit lol

>>68723571
Are they though? There is no explicit break with tradition, adoption of rationalism and progress.

Both impressionist painters and musicians were simply informed by a tradition other than their own, more-so than divorcing themselves from tradition.

>>68724094
Both impressionistic painters and composers rejected academic styles that were concurrent at the time. The painters obviously broke with the detailed style but also focused on the changing technology of the world around them rather than mythological subjects. And Debussy obviously broke functional harmony but so did Liszt and Wagner so the analogy isn't perfect - but you knew that already

>>68724219
The first modernists are Wagner, Manet and Baudelaire

>>68721834
Does no one here know? I would think that at least some would know the second, but hey, i don't even know tbqh.

>>68724219
Yes, but that does not make them modernist, does it?

They did indeed break with WESTERN tradition but in return appropriated another, namely arabic and chinese traditions. Meanwhile the second viennese school indeed fully breaks with tradition and builds a new, rationalistic style wherein the method of creation becomes the focal point.

>>68715369
yeah only one is for flute dumbass

>>68724293
Is modernism defined by breaking western tradition or general tradition?

>>68724367
as solo instrument faggot; both had flutes in them cuckboy

>>68724368
I would argue tradition as a whole, where tradition is the organic result of nation, religion and human as subject, whereas modernism represents the ideology of the HUMAN above all others, human as object.

This is why for example Harry Partch is in fact no way a modernist, but a radical traditionalist.

>>68724433
That actually sounds a lot like romanticism, honestly

>>68723930
>>68723947
Because he was stoned all day. He didn't have to know how to play instruments.

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>>68721248
>Arvo Part (Modern Bach)

>>68724479
Well, of course that mode of thinking is a necessity for modernism, but romanticism was more a revival of heroism, the genius is a subject who is moved by fate to be a great composer, Liszt is moved by fate and born to be a great pianist. While the modernist believes that with technology, science and so on that man has EMANCIPATED himself and thus must act himself.

So I am listening to pop songs and trying to determine what key they are in and then looking it up, I consistently get it wrong by 1 note, except I think C major is A minor and vice versa. Do I have a decent ear?

>>68725214
If you consistently get relative key like that, you are at least in the ballpark, keep working but it's not bad.

>>68724811
both viewpoints seem like a folly to me

>>68725332
Of course. Civilization was a mistake after all.

>>68725391
Civilization perhaps, I don't think the culture is.

>>68724633
>gay luigi

>>68725422
Culture is a prerequisite of civilization.

*tips copy of Der Untergang des Abendlandes*

Zápisník zmizelého is the shit

>>68725489
>Culture is a prerequisite of civilization.
absolutely, that's what I was talking about
civilization without living culture is doomed

>>68678020
could someone make a torrent of this? Im not paying for mega pro to download them all

>>68725670
The Spenglerian view is that all culture becomes civilization and is thus doomed. When exactly the western culture died is really the only question posed, I would say modernism was undoubtedly a death rattle, a desperate attempt at vitalism.

>>68724633
Find a living composer who is closer to Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i28-WZB589M
topp kek

>>68726723
kekek

>>68726665
Me