SGG: Soundgarden General

>>68661988
Whoever said they weren't?

Because Kurt Cobain wasn't in Soundgarden

>>68662070
Fuck off Cole.

>>68662070

yeah pretty much this honestly

>>68661988
>How are they not the best Grunge band?
They aren't not the best grunge band.

>>68662013
I've seen people argue that Alice In Chains are the best. or Nirvana or course.

I never really liked them as much as the other big Seattle grunge bands.

>>68662070

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Alice in Chains isn't the best grunge band because they are not grunge.

>>68662160
I've lost so much hair trying to explain this to people.

They are definitely the best grunge band

>>68662160
Grunge wasn't a genre so much as it was a scene. AiC were definitely part of that scene.

>>68662160
and they aren't that good

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Any fans of Soundgardens sister band Skin Yard?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL_Fk5_fAY8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI42qUGUh3A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joeQkdN0WwI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmSwip1MDeA

Because Alice in chains was a thing

>>68662293
the album with the muslim titties is good, the other one is kind of bleh
but yeah pretty decent soundgarden-style band

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>>68661988
because Jane's Addiction did it better

>>68662334
I actually really enjoy their s/t debut album, except for a couple songs (Skins in My Closet & Blind Leading The Blind)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c05BJDGL32c

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>>68662132
the usual line is Nirivana are not grunge anyways. I think Mudhoney were Add to dictionary grunge. I never get the Neil Young 'godfather of grunge' line, it's all bullshit innit.

>>68662581
>Nirvana aren't grunge

Is this some kind of ironic joke or do people actually think this?

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>>68662581
>I never get the Neil Young 'godfather of grunge' line
I don't get this either.

>>68662618
People say they're punk, or some stupid shit.


Any Love Battery fans? a little psychedelic grunge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S3633dvfJo&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tT8Wi3c_1Y&t=1s

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>>68662618
Kurt said it I think. It was common knowledge at the time.

>>68662581
>I never get the Neil Young 'godfather of grunge' line, it's all bullshit innit.
well, not Harvest or CSNY Neil Young, no. It's referencing his off-kilter vocals with Crazy Horse backing him that can easily pass for what we now think of as grunge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQhEvfeJocM

this is 1979, but Cinnamon Girl is much earlier

>>68662799
I always thought Black Sabbath should be the godfathers of grunge.
Master of Reality is earlier and some of its songs could pass for grunge.

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>>68662799

It was some marketing crap they could have chose loads of people

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Turn On the Bright Lights [Matador, 2002]

They bitch because everybody compares them to Joy Division, and they're right. It's way too kind, and I say that as someone who thanks Ian Curtis for making New Order possible. Joy Division struggled against depression rather than flaunting it, much less wearing it like a designer suit. What's truly depressing is that, just as the hairy behemoths of the grunge generation looked back to the AOR metal they immersed in as teens, these fops tweak the nostalgia of young adults who cherish indistinct memories of much worse bands than Joy Division, every one of them English--Bauhaus, Ultravox, Visage, Spandau Ballet, Tears for Fears. At a critical moment in consciousness they exemplify and counsel disengagement, self-seeking, a luxurious cynicism. Says certified British subject Peter Banks: "Emotions are standard and boring. I'd like to find another way to live." That's thinking either big or very small. C+

>>68662851
Black Sabbath is mostly responsible for the resurgance of hardcore punk. They had some notable influence in a lot of grunge bands (especially Alice in Chains and Melvins), but that kind of devolved into neo-doom, sludge, and stoner metals.

but a lot of the "popular" grunge was more influenced by Sonic Youth/Dinosaur Jr/Pixies/Butthole Surfers and a lot of other noise rock/punk over more "metal" influence

You can make a lot of caparisons between Grunge/the Seattle Scene and Canterbury Scene.
>Core bands made of same people
>Only a vaguely unifying sound
>Bands from outside the scene with similar sound are thrown in.

>>68662851

ozzy never wore flannel, though. that was the other thing, Neil looked the part. so, yeah, >>68662862, that is pretty superficial. and I guess Neil had that warble in his voice like kurt. But then Cornell and Staley sound more like Ozzy.

>>68663030
>Black Sabbath is mostly responsible for the resurgence of hardcore punk

Shhh, don't tell Christgau that.

>>68663082
He probably thinks the New York Dolls caused the rebirth of hardcore punk.

>>68663082
Christgau is an idiot, always has been one and always will be one.

>>68663126
The Dolls are okay,, but they're not as unbelievably awesome as he claims.

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>>68663173
I know.

Californication [Warner Bros., 1999]

New Age fuck fiends ("Purple Stain", "Scar Tissue") *

Tonight The Stars Revolt [DreamWorks, 1999] *bomb*

>>68663218
you don't have to be smart to have an opinion about an album.

but you do need to know what you're talking about when it comes to tracing influences and any respective "research" of a band

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What's your favorite SG album senpai?

>>68663345
Well then Christgau isn't that dumb because he quite correctly stated that the grunge bands were heavily rooted in 70s AOR.

>>68663462
Blow up the outside world is the best song on that album

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>>68663533
>He didn't say Overfloater

>>68663173
>guy who thinks Black Sabbath were worse than Hitler, but he unironically gave As to Yoko Ono albums

I like the song Heretic that was on the Pump Up The Volume sndtk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0z6ATxLk8Q

despite screaming "Louder than love!" at the beginning, it was not, in fact, on the Louder Than Love album. which is a good album. but I think my favorite is Badmotorfinger, personally.

>>68664262
It was actually one of their first songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EucsKOkPX1s

>>68661988
Because Alice in Chains exist

soundgarden is trash

/thread

>>68666862
Kys

>>68661988
It's funny how Black Hole Sun is easily their most popular song with 6 times as many views as all their songs when it doesn't rank even in their top 20 songs

>>68663611
>Never the Machine Forever

>>68663462
Ultramega OK

>>68664413
ah, nice. no wonder I couldn't find it on any of the albums.

>>68663036
>Canterbury Scene.
the only shit I know about Canterbury is Chaucer. What bands were in that scene?

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>>68666862
Care to elaborate?

>>68662160
>Seattle
>Early 90s
>Alice Mudgarden
>Mad Season
>>68662189
Good