/prod/

So when I'm on a DAW and it has a VST or whatever and you can hit keyboard keys on the UI to hear certain notes, right? If I were to have a keyboard with a midi output (or anything that is a midi controller I guess) I could record something using that sound profile mapped to the keyboard right?

>>68579040
yeah, what DAW are you using? If your DAW doesn't have to record midi notes I think you should change DAW'S.

How do I sell my beats to big name rappers?

>>68579106
I have FL Studio and Music Creator Touch 6.

I'm new to all this, but at the start of november I'm planning on getting Reaper and BIAS FX/AMPS for my guitars. I'm planning on recording and making music, so I figured a keyboard might be a good investment too so I could use it as a midi device and actually have the physical ability to play the music instead of using pre-made midi clips or drawing it.

>>68579112
post a clyp, so we can see if your beats are good enough.

>>68579167
FL studio can record notes, so a keyboard would be a good investment. You might wanna make sure you understand latency as it may get annoying if you have a shitty cpu.

What do you guys think of my mega siqq trap/rap instrumental I'm working on?
>https://clyp.it/a0r2aizk

What about this one?
>https://clyp.it/gfw4fshw

https://clyp.it/2z0rdsqz

pls

Just gonna dump the "syllabus" for my music prod study group.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pbaNATUpxn5H6NZT7yEJW3mLlzmH6f-Cln71n3PypFo/mobilebasic

>>68579249
i7 4770K Multi-threading should handle it aye? I have a gaming rig that I hardly use anymore. I should upgrade the RAM though.

>>68579345
>https://clyp.it/2z0rdsqz
Ooh, I really like this track a lot! Though, I think that the mids from that bass could be reduced a bit. It's got a boomy tone that isn't exactly pleasing while overpowering in the mix. I really like the way you develop this track a whole dang lot though! Spot on composition.

>>68579338
>https://clyp.it/a0r2aizk
What's the part of the track you're wanting feedback with most? I think personally that the bass part that comes in could do well with a longer decay/release on the pitch envelope. Going the extra mile with making that thing go real sub would be real pleasant, as well as musical if you were to give it movement. It's over halfway there!

https://clyp.it/gfw4fshw
I dig it! But I think that the kick could be a little deeper, and leave more "space" for the mid frequencies. Hell, you could even go as far as automating the tuning of that kick drum to do some interesting melodic "kick-bass".

>>68579575
>What's the part of the track you're wanting feedback with most?
I'm not quite sure. I just wanted opinions. I'm eventually gonna find someone to rap on it because that's what I originally made it for I just haven't found anyone yet. Are you saying I should make the sub deeper?

>https://clyp.it/gfw4fshw
>I dig it! But I think that the kick could be a little deeper, and leave more "space" for the mid frequencies.
I'll switch out the sample for a deeper one and post it to see what you think. Also, from 1:23 to 2:30 is supposed to have a rap verse on it, but again, I haven't found anyone.

>>68579575
>>68579682
>https://clyp.it/gfw4fshw
Oh, I forgot to ask, what do you think of the "switch" part at the end? Is it too abrupt or lack flow?

>>68579480
yeah that's plenty.

>>68579338
>https://clyp.it/a0r2aizk

808/Bass is pretty much perfect, quality mix, maybe more panning? Only real criticism is that it sounds too generic.

>https://clyp.it/gfw4fshw
I really like the vocals, they mesh with the sounds really well. The water/puddle splashing sound has way too much reverb on it.

>>68579345
kick needs more punch, and to jump out of the mix. It also had unique sounds which was good, but was kinda boring.

>>68579766
I really like it, good job.
>rate this

https://clyp.it/2iaxm0rl

Posted a similar clip a day or two ago. I've tweaked the tone a little bit. Any feedback would be appreciate.

https://clyp.it/vzw20miw

>>68579509
yes the bass isnt eqd at all

>>68579816
kick has plenty of punch desu, I'm not going for dance mixes

https://clyp.it/o2g22hlg
ive been working on this its inspired by skream and basically old school dubstep in general i know the mixing is terrible but right now im just trying to get the music to sound right

>>68579816
>Only real criticism is that it sounds too generic.
I plan on having vocals on it eventually, that's why it sounds so "plain." If there was a lot going on as well as vocals, then it would just be a mess. Thanks for the compliment on my 808s though. I don't know how long I've spent getting the art of the 808 down but it's finally paying off.

>>68579575
>But I think that the kick could be a little deeper, and leave more "space" for the mid frequencies.
>>68579682
>I'll switch out the sample for a deeper one and post it to see what you think. Also, from 1:23 to 2:30 is supposed to have a rap verse on it
>>68579816
>The water/puddle splashing sound has way too much reverb on it.

Here, try this: https://clyp.it/t1inox15

>>68579816
>I really like it, good job.
Thanks, man. I was worried it was too out of left field.

>>68580050
Wubs need to have less high-end/harshness. Also, the kick and snare don't cut through the mix like they're supposed to. Sidechaining is your friend.

>>68579816
>I really like the vocals, they mesh with the sounds really well.
Forgot to say thanks. Took me forever to find quality vocal samples.

Why doesn't my Novation Launchpad show up in ableton? Does it need a specific kind of USB cable? I lost the one that came with it

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>>68579338
where did you get those cymbals? hats?

>>68580218
On which track? I'll post the exact sample I used if you can tell me which one you mean in particular.

r8 boiz https://clyp.it/2iaxm0rl

>>68580248
>https://clyp.it/a0r2aizk
woah thank you

https://clyp.it/m04qx2rk

https://clyp.it/h0bbdq5q

thoughts on either of these?

>>68580282
>http://www.mediafire.com/file/fwg8wnlcant2y2v/city_hihat03.wav
Now obviously it might sound a little different because this is the raw sample with no processing (although to be fair, I really didn't process it much at all).

http://www.mediafire.com/file/b5bwbwq6mausu4t/Crash+%283%29.wav
And then the cymbal.

>>68580378
I'm just realizing on one of these I made one of the cymbals mono and it sounds like shit...goddammit lol

I wish I had marijuana but I don't have marijuana

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>>68580383
dope, thank you!

>>68580378
Dude those are actually sick as fuck. Needs to mixed a little better but they're still fire.

>>68580477
No problem, my dude. I got PLENTY more if you want them.

>https://clyp.it/ckkfud2w
How'd I do for my first attempt at synthwave?

REEE I GAVE YOU ALL FEEDBACK BUT NO ONE HAS REPLIED

https://clyp.it/2iaxm0rl

>>68580556
>https://clyp.it/2iaxm0rl
I gotta admit, I really didn't like it up until 0:38, then it got kind of cool. Needs a way snappier snare when it comes in at 3:28.

When you're whole recording system, workstation, interface, midi controller, is all under $1000

kek

>>68580513
Okay, nobody likes synthwave apparently. What about post rock made entirely out of MIDI instruments?
>https://clyp.it/f1jqwdgs

>>68580630
Thanks, I didn't notice the snare drop in volume, fl is quite buggy sometimes.

>>68580933
No problem. It happens. Other than that, good work. It's really interesting.

>>68580513
>>68580914
I'm just gonna keep posting shit until someone else contributes.
>https://clyp.it/tkmcbjha

https://clyp.it/zemxd5vt

Math rock idea

https://clyp.it/e3ywmnf2

a

>>68581274
I fuck with the first one, man. Do you do everything yourself?

Also,
>https://clyp.it/kbnib25s

https://clyp.it/j4cuavpd

Something I've been working on for a bit. I have to go to bed right now, but I'll be back in a bit to give rates <3

I've ghost produced for local DJs and it feels shitty when they get the praise

>>68581616
Yeah but you got paid, so what does it matter?

You did get paid right?

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https://clyp.it/25hkswqt

>drunk trap

https://clyp.it/25hkswqt

sounds good, but it sounds exactly the same as the last song you posted. what sample pack is that kick from?

>>68579470
woah, thanks anon

For those who make beats, how much do you sell it ?

Trap is the gayest shit desu senpai

>>68582366
There's some trap that's pretty gay, but there's also some that's pretty good. That goes for every genre of music.

>>68582366
tfw trap is two genres at once, edm and rap.

>>68579845
>https://clyp.it/vzw20miw
sounds good

how do i correctly copy the notes i pick up on melodyne to musescore? it doesn't show how long it has to be and its usually sounds nothing like it when i copy it note by note

>>68582610
i've never used either of those things but is there not a way to just get a midi file of the notes from melodyne? isn't that usually how you transfer notes between things?

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https://soundcloud.com/jormangod/jorman-god-acid-rip

>hip hop instrumenta

https://soundcloud.com/jormangod/jorman-god-no-acid

>chill wave > hip hop instrumental

https://soundcloud.com/jormangod/jorman-god-chopped-all-screwed-up

>hip hop instrumental

>>68583566
kys

>>68583564
ive tried but it makes it unnecessarily complex with dotted notes everywhere and lines connecting them inbetween measures even though its a basic ass melody when i hum it

speaking of which how do you figure out notes to a melody in your head?

ear training?

>>68584256
Use a metronome and experiment. A big help to learning to how write sheet music is to read (and play) sheet music.

>>68584256
Learn modes to the point where you can recreate them by memory and it should be fairly easy (since the melodies "in your head" are likely to be in a common mode anyway)

>>68584560
Not him but if I know all the major and minor scales, how to play them, and the chords resulting from those scales and how to play those (as well as some basic chord progressions), will learning modes help me in my composition or improvisation process? I don't understand modes and honestly the subject seems very complicated.

>>68584614
If you know major and minor scales then you already understand modes. That's what they are. Those two are known as Ionian and Aeolian. It helps to realize the major scale is (somewhat interchangeable) with the other 5 greek modes though. If you're in c you can play in g mixolydian to have a section that's tonally centered around g without sounding out of tune. I'm sure there's lots more ideas to discover, I'm not a master myself.

>>68580914
Bumping this clyp

>>68584643
>playing a tune centered around g without sounding out of tune from c

w h a t
That sounds to good to be true. I must look into it ASAP then.

>>68581274
noice

>>68582163
I work for free

what genre is this?

>>68584897
nonspecific core

what genre is this?
https://clyp.it/p1nymkpu

>>68584925
flume-core

>>68585019
ayy thanks senpai, that's what I was aiming for xoxo. I'm djing for the first time next weekend, australian house party, any tips? I'll be playing trap,dubstep and pop/top40.

>>68584810
This is more hypothesis than anything else but most things regarding music are relative. There's hardly a noticeable difference between C and D scales until you play the two side by side and the difference becomes very obvious. Similarly, G mixolydian is the exact same notes as C, so playing it won't actually sound any different. The idea is though, there is a "version" of C so to speak which actually uses G as its tonal center (this would be mixolydian). Say you have a lead in a C song and you chose to play leads that mostly emphasize the G (say by playing G on a strong beat, or just more G notes than others, G in the bass line, etc), then the feeling you get is mixolydian, which is not quite the same as C.

>>68585112
is music the brains way of trying to understand audio patterns?

>>68585229
personally I think its just a byproduct of self-awareness. people are conscious and have emotions and naturally make a connection between those things and their senses.

I'm trying to help my friend get attention on media sites etc.. Just being hopeful someone on here may want to work with him on something.

Conscious Poet

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zPavOiNaekY

>>68585258
I'm pretty clueless, but what makes a song sound good? Is it possible to describe in words? or are good songs "just good"

>>68586052
I would disagree, all music (that is listenable) uses tension and release, that's the reason people listen to music. A piece with truly no tension would be really boring. That's not to say walking on sunshine isn't extremely predictable, but there is tension and release in the song, for example, the chorus to verse. That's the reason pop tunes like to use the 145,154, etc chord progression - it is an easy access to tension and and release (namely tension built by the 4's and 5's released into the 1)

>>68585413

The songs I enjoy the most tend to do one thing well - they set me up and then pull the rug away from under me and it's usually done by using unexpected key changes (not the BoyZone type) and chord progressions, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyDmt-Yrhww

There's a build in tension caused by the unexpected sections that is eventually released and that's where the enjoyment comes from.

But there's another (more well-travelled) path that instead uses progressions that are completely predictable and these have their own satisfaction to them for people - there's no real tension built up within these pieces but that is (presumably) where the enjoyment comes from - a lot of summer hits come from this stable and it's all about maintaining predictability and not challenging expectation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPUmE-tne5U

I'm not even touching on lyrical content which is another thing altogether - anything from the great American songbook is just as praised for lyrics as it is for melodic and harmonic content.

>>68584643
So you're saying that the Ionian mode starting on C is also known as C major and the Aeolian mode starting on C is also known as C minor???

Does that mean that the other modes are different types of scales that sound different from necessarily "happy" or "sad" or are they varying degrees of, like, "less/more happy" and "less/more sad"?

>>68586134

Sorry m8 for deleting my post - I'd made part of it unclear, and I might agree with you now you mention it so treat >>68586171 with some scepticism - the tension/release is of a different sort but you're right that it is still there.

>>68586206
Yes, though it may be better for memorization purposes to think of them in the context of a single major scale. For example, choosing to start c major 2 degrees down = Aeolian mode A (the note you started on).

Keep in mind the "happy/sad" dichotomy is just a way to simplify the concept of dissonance and consonance, so its not necessarily set in stone. Harekning back to my previous statement, its all about relativity. Major is technically the standard "happy" scale but if you start in a more dissonant mode moving into Lydian or Mixolydian can feel happy as well, but it will have a different sound and a different mood. Your last sentence is more or less how it is, but think of it in the context of scale degrees. The "strength" of a degree in the Ionian scale is directly correlated with the "strength" of its mode.

>>68586237
the difference between the two, I think (not entirely clear which part of the bowie song you're talking about after all - it is 9 minutes) is rhythmic tension/release, which is somewhat of an abstract, almost none-existent concept. In walking on sunshine there is no change to the pulse of the music throughout, unlike the bowie song. However there's no music theory for rhythmic tension so its more a thing that you have to feel your way through, though I believe the effects ARE there...

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>"the pads on the controller are velocity sensitive but no pressure sensitive"

I don't get it. Isn't the point of the drumpads to sound softer when you tap them lightly and full sound/volume when you go harder?
What is the point of velocity (speed)?
Does velocity refers to something else?

>>68586559
>no pressure sensitive
i think this means no aftertouch/channel pressure

velocity does how you say lighter or harder volume but you can also map velocity to other shit besides volume like filter cutoff or watever

Hey guys so I really want to get into producing, I already have a laptop, some nice moniter speakers, a turntable and mixer so maybe that would help if I want to sample

Would an MPC be the next step to really get things going?

Is the yamaha pss-130 fun to work with?

>>68586608
Ah, ok so pressure sensitive on drumpads is pretty much aftertouch action. Got it. It makes sense.
So you can have the drum hit at it's max and instead have a filter change? The harder you hit the more the cutoff changes.
I didn't know, sounds pretty cool.

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>>68586730
i dont know what daw you use but this is where you can map all that shit in ableton sampler

feedback will be appreciated and returned
https://clyp.it/jez4mh3i#

what do you guys think? Maybe if I add a few more elements or add audio from 90's commercials, I can make it into vaporwave.

>>68586994
BitWig =^]

>>68579338
skip bar 2-6, jump straight to the drop after the 2 bars. on the second one. cus it could be pretty dope

>>68581274
the potential is wicked. the build is like 10x to long but it could be a readily good track.

>>68582133
bass layer, add double-time at buildups, replace squeaky voice keep the rhythm

>>68587455
boom bap bump

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anyone else ever have the problem of only being able to work at your best when you try random shit as opposed to working with a deliberate goal and structure?

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I finished this track and I'd really appreciate some help with sidechaining/mixing/mastering.

Right now I've got 14 dry tracks which sound like this:

https://clyp.it/1z2c2v4t

First of all I'm planing on EQ and compress every track, but I'd really like to know how you'd organize the tracks in order to sidechain what has to be sidechained. Should I send every track but the kick track to a bus and then sidechain that bus to the kick? Should I send every track but the kick and bass track to a bus and then sidechain that bus to the bass and kick? What about the other tracks?

Feedback really appreciated, I'll post whatever I came up with after your recommendations.

>>68589264
Yeah same

I cant produce anything when I got all the time in the world and should be finally done with my 1st album but when a /mu/ makes an album thread comes up I've gotta provide at least 2 tracks and actually do them within a short timeframe

It's pretty weird

Is taking an online course for learning how to produce worth it ? This course says it will have me produce tracks and teach me how to not be a novice.

Are these types of things worth it ?

>>68589287
I forgot to render the open hat track.

https://clyp.it/hycuh4e5

Flume and Joshua Pan here
Ask us anything

>>68589820
skrillex here

kys u talentless hacks

>>68589833

>>68587214

>>68589287
>sidechain

It depends very much on what you're trying to achieve. If you want to use sidechaning as an obvious effect you'd probably want to bus everything but the kick, then sidechain that bus to the kick.

If you want to use sidechaining as a mixing tool to avoid sounds with similar frequencies muddying up then you use your ears first to determine whether you even need to use sidechaining - it's not compulsory if there are no frequencies clashing.

If your kick drum interferes with your bass sound for example though then you'd sidechain the bass sound using the kick to duck the bass sound's level.

>>68589447
Anyone with experience know an answer to this?

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What are your thoughts on LANDR? (It's basically a program that will remaster a track for you, all you need to do is click "master") I'm a beginner with mixing and I thought I'd give it a try.

>rock

https://clyp.it/q5zotwpz
Landr's automated mix

https://clyp.it/sj3ijmwx
my original attempt at mastering

The original is bassy, the vocals sound thin

The remaster sounds like the "band" is "tighter" and the bass has more punch, and everything is louder.


I could also say the drums are programmed, guitar was recorded through a fender squire and a roland cube solid state amp with a boss CS-3 turned on the whole time. Everything came into a built in laptop mic.

So yeah what do you think

>>68582163
WILL YOU MOTHERFUCKERS ANSWER ME ?

>>68590177
>LANDR
i honestly dont think that is worth it

>>68589901
I understand that, in theory, but when it comes to real mixing I really don't know how what I should be doing, I should trust my ears, I know, but my monitoring system is not the greatest so that's why I come to you guys looking for some more personalized advice.

I'll try sidechaining everything to the kick.

>>68590177
Its badly mixed so you can't master it in a good way desu senpai.

>>68590341
>>68582163
Why would you sell your beats you capitalist faggot.

>>68590462
is there any sound advice you can give me

Anyone use Renoise? Do you use plugins to make synths or do you make synths with the sine waves they include and do it within the DAW?

Hi /prod/ i asked this over on guitar thread but no one there seems to know.

Is it safe to power a usb audio interface with a usb wall charger? It would be convenient for me to test things through the headphone out without having to hook it to a running pc. This unit is usb powered only, no option for regular ac plug in.

>>68590177
>fender squire

>>68590607
Mix the bass lower and bring the vocals up, drums are not punching.

>>68590731
RIP

Anyone willing to help me set up kontakt 5, the Toccata vst and FL studio via Skype? I'm basically coming from literal pen and paper, so a walk through would be really helpful.
Getting Kontakt into sibelius would be a nice bonus.

I don't have too much to offer in return, but can provide pointers in classical music theory and can offer my absolute pitch for transcribing stuff.

>>68590372

All you can deal with is generalities if your monitoring isn't revealing issues to you so I get that, in addition any idea of subtlety also goes out the window too since you won't hear subtle changes to sounds either.

Where that matters is when you commit to something that takes your mix somewhere unintended and you fail to spot it, so what I'd recommend is that you look into improving your listening environment and in the meantime use reference mixes in the same vein as your own work for comparison, even with good monitoring reference mixes are useful. Pink noise referencing is also useful if you need to be sure you're not making any fuckhuge errors but be aware it leads to cookie-cutter approaches to frequency balancing if relied upon all the time.

http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/mixing-pink-noise-reference

>>68590963
Install FL, install Kontakt + libraries.
Open FL, do a VST scan.
Add Kontakt to favorites.

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sup /prod/

thoughts on my wip?

https://clyp.it/ln0x5hw0

mix is shit i know

>>68590875
Bad idea, huh?

>>68591102
Thank, will try when I'm home. I kinda failed at adding those nkm files as library, I was using that one vst by going File > Open

>>68590731
That will only work if your audio interface as a feature to allow it to work as a mixer independant of the computer

>>68591215
I don't know anything about this but I'd say the PC reduces the the current and the USB takes a small amount from that. I don't think it would be able to handle the full power unless there is some reduction in the cable. (?)

>>68591276

Devices only draw the current they need if the voltage (which is what "pushes" current) remains the same. a PC's USB voltage and a charger's USB voltage will both be 5 volts, the device connected to them is the same device so it will draw the same current in both cases.

>>68591248
>>68591388

Okay, thanks guys.

>>68579480
just get a sound card with a bunch of ins. this will handle the ram for ya, swell as recording for your amps /guitar

>>68591103
I would add some reverb to the synth you introduce around 0:47
And maybe add a snare at some point.
I would also have the main bass synth you're using have a variation to through in every 4 pattern repeats.
Otherwise though I think it sounds good. Those small changes I suggested will bring more variation and excitement.

>>68591276
Dude look at the USB wall adapter and it'll have something like "output: 5v" or something. Check your interface and it should say "input 5v" or whatever. If the numbers are the same, then you can use it.

>>68591814
all great points! thanks so much!

>>68587455
Fidubako prease

is their a way to convert a melody from a sample to a different sound on ableton?

>>68592004
no problem

>>68591102
amagawd it worked! Apparently I can't add Toccata as library though. Ah well.

>>68590982
That's great, thank you so much. What do you think about using Ozone's matching function to match my track to the pink noise curve?

>>68592527

Ozone is really intended for working with completed mixes, while pink noise referencing is a tool for balancing instrument levels as a quick fix.

That said, you could use pink noise in both cases if you use it to balance instrument levels within your DAW and then as a final "last 5%" finishing step in Ozone.

What I wouldn't do is to ignore the instrument balancing and just force a frequency curve upon the completed mix - that wouldn't work.

The take-away is that experienced ears (working with good monitoring) should always be your best judge, all other techniques are useful and the more of them you know the better, but a single process is never 100% constantly the right thing to do - gain experience and trust it instead to tell you when things have been done right.

>>68593591
>pink noise
Yeah sure you fucking fag

>>68578986
where do I start with FL Studio?

Guys so I'm thinking of buying my first actual synth and I want to keep my budget at about 200$ (but can go up to 500$ if it's really really worth it) but it seems like there are so many options that I'm not sure what to pick. Do you guys have like a list or any recommendations?

One particular question I do have is this: why would I pick a hardware synthesizer over a software one? I was listening to some minibrute demos and damn they sound hot, but cant the same be achieved a software synth like, say, Serum or Sytrus?

That's it for now, I really don't know where else to ask for this kind of stuff.

>>68593979
The manual and tutorial videos on YouTube. But mostly the manual.

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https://clyp.it/wckb3kkc

how does it sound?

My first attempt at doing this kinda music, slow calm Enya-inspired relaxation. Vocals with no words and soaked in reverb. Would love to hear if anyone has any tips on how to improve and work more with this stuff.

https://clyp.it/sfh5ixvx

i should produce more when i'm drunk
https://clyp.it/3wom1bx0

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>tfw ripping of chords from classical composers

GET REKT

https://clyp.it/tsgx4o31

>>68595243
>implying that ripping notes out of concext from a different piece equals to something good :^)

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>>68595287
A chord is not a note, fellow producer.

>>68594675
>https://clyp.it/3wom1bx0
Groovy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av5Jb52yFBo
Does anyone know what instrument is being used for that beginning "drone", and how one would make it sound so muted?

>>68594042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzJYRfSPj7E

If you have a midi controller, go for soft synths like Serum or Sytrus if you like the win95 skin. Analog "fat/warm/depth/anything-ness" is snake oil now that soft synths are so advanced.

>>68595638
>snake oil
>post vid only comparing simple oscillator waveforms

You've never really used a good analog synth, have you?

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>>68595638
>>68595701

I'm >>68594042 and I don't understand what the guy in the video is saying. What about the other parts of the synth like filter and lfo? Kind of lost here.

>>68595762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJkxGvhOS-M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK3m8sMkTE4

>>68595762
The analog synth gets converted into a digital waveform anyway so its only worth it if you are an enthusiast.

>>68595809
I've watched the videos, mane. I know how to use a synth. What I'm not sure about is what type of synth should I invest my money in, like which is the best bang-for-buck.

>>68595865
Good point. Like, say I'm aiming for X sound, say, a lush pad. I could get pretty much the same sound on both synths. So you could say that what really matters is the skill of the guy programming the synth patch, not the synth itself? I mean if I wanted a synth with a ton of variety and possibilities but with a lot of learning potential, the most reasonable choice would be a soft synth like Serum. Especially if I already have a midi controller with faders and knobs. Does that make sense?

>>68594675

>that sample over a grime beat

That's fucking new

>>68595959
im retarded and thought you were saying you didnt know synthesis

have you considered something like this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0161LXW06?psc=1&smid=A3C1OYEM4FMOSU

it is a little over your max price but i think it is a better buy than the minibrute you originally talked about

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I just got myself a Nord Modular G1 what have a gotten myself into here

>>68596704
Damn... that looks like too much fun. But it's monophonic. Isn't that a huge downside? Not being able to play chords and such?

Sorry for being such an ass pain and asking the same thing over and over, but why would I really buy the moog, which looks and sounds awesome by the way, over a soft synth that is polyphonic and has almost as many bells and whistles?

Maybe I'm just stupid. But I should expect a huge jump in usefulness and performance with such a huge jump in price.

>>68596888
You can expect a drop in usefulness since its tedious to integrate hardware into a DAW. Just get Monark and Massive, or Sylenth.

>>68596888
minibrute is also monophonic

>>68596888
>why would I really buy the moog
only if you really want hardware

i dont think theres anything wrong with a good softsynth for the same price of that moog you could get some shit like ni komplete or omnisphere 2 and it would be more versatile

>>68580189
bump for help

>>68580189
It doesn't require a special cable. Check on your manufacturer's site to see if it needs drives installed and afterwards go to ableton and to your midi device settings. There should be a preset in the dropdown list specifically for the novation launchpad.

So what are /prod/'s favourite DAWs to use? I'm new to all this, and want some recommendations.

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>>68597431
cubase but i also like live

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>>68597431
Renoise & Ableton

Best eva
4 eva

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>>68597431
Ableton, others need not apply.

Anybody have any cool production desk setups?

I'm using an Ikea desk and I kinda hate it

>>68597983
>>68597717
>>68597470
>no mono
>need to bridge plugins with 3rd party
>no portamento

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>>68598234
>has mono
>he uses shit tier non 64 bit VST
>has portamento

>>68598234
What the fuck version of ableton are you using

>>68598234
cubase is the best daw and shits over all the other gay shit live included

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>>68598234

>>68598441
>Utility > Mono

done

also straight from the manual

>If you record a track with either channel 1 or channel 2, they will be recorded in mono. If you record a track with 1 and 2 it will be stereo, because no shit, you fucking retard

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>>68598772

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>>68598307
>>68598325
>>68598744
>>68598772
>All these triggered Abledrones
Everytime

>>68598883
Post your music, you ugly bitch

>>68598883
U got rekt fgt

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>>68598845
fucking pleb

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>>68598961
>>68598957

https://clyp.it/23kux0mw

https://clyp.it/rhx1w1lq

how do these sound

>>68599076
>not using double bit depth

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>>68599186

>>68599200
i wish i could punch this fag in the face desu

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what music does he produce

>>68599186
>>68599200
>>68599506
>collecting pictures of people you dont like so you can circlejerk with other edgelords

>>68599531
what music do you produce?

>>68599531
numale detected

>>68599200
>>68599506
>numale, le edgy brackets
of course the anti-ableton autist is a /pol/ poster

>>68599573
Got a problem with /pol/, fag?
The wall WILL be built and America WILL be great again.

>>68599573
i really dont get why youre so upset over a few pictures

>>68599601
>CROOKID SHILLARY *WILL* BE DEFEATED!!1 WICKY LEEKS ARE TRYING TO SAVE TEH WORLD FROM LE EVIL PODENKA

>>68586559
non-drums stuff like sampling often is better off without velocity

>>68599640
i really dont get why you have to act like you're offending and enraging people instead of just being laughed at by them. is your ego that fragile?

>>68599697
i didnt even make any of those posts faggot

>>68599728
>instinctually going to bat for other stray /pol/ posters
lol

>>68599663
Fuck /pol/, the leaks actually are pretty damaging.

hi, flume here, thanks for posting my studio in the OP, ur based m8

I'm new to production and wondering if using samples means you're a hack?
Obviously if you chop up and modulate a sample very heavily, making it unrecognizable, that's no problem. But does it make you a hack if you use royalty free drum loops/other samples? Is this common? I always figured anyone who didn't come up with less common/cliched patterns would be laughed at.

>>68600103
it the end result is good it doesnt matter how you made the track

>>68600142
That seems strange to me. No one cares if you just take a bunch of samples, arrange them in order to make a song, and call it that?

>>68600170
more people do that than you think honestly

there are tons of people who use vengance samples and refx nexus and they dont know who to design sounds but they know how to compose music

i personally dont like using samples besides drum samples everything else i like to make my self

>>68600289
Huh, interesting.
I am the same as you though, I just like creating the sounds myself and arranging them. It has to be just right.

>>68599110
Pls someone. Other people said my volume levels are horrendously off. I dont have my monitors with me, that might be why

Theres a competition I'm going to enter where all submissions have to be less than 64 seconds. Any advice for how to develop or structure a song that short?
Here's what I have so far.
https://clyp.it/aidzvz5b

PLEASE someone help me. I Whenever new sounds play on FL 10, there is a popping noise on my speakers. The same thing happens when I pause or play Youtube videos, but only certain songs/sounds do this.

What is going on? Please help me. I've looked up what to do used, a latency checker, disabled almost every driver on my computer for everything, turned them all back on, nothing has fixed this, turned off all enhancements, no exclusive control, etc.

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the music industry is dead and none of us will ever turn this shit into a career

anyone know this feel?

>>68601324
Speak for yourself

Any sunvox users in?
>>68601347
HOW'D YOU MAKE IT? business wise.

>>68601324
EDM* is dead

aka that means this is the best time ever to start producing more mainstream shoegaze shit, etc.

http://elitedaily.com/music/edm-festivals-dying-out-ticket-sales/1495956/

>>68601366
basically just memeing my shit around here

I'll give you a hint: PP

>>68601324
>career
i only do this because i like to and i dont give a shit if i ever make one shekel from it

Why doesn't clypit work for me? Is there a filesize limit? I just have no idea but I've never got anything to upload on there, used various browsers. Literally it's either a filesize limit or that I'm using a mac..

>>68586623
MIDI controllers. Or Maschine.

>>68579766
This is dece mang

Hey guys, how do I get starting into producing/mixing?

I've done up to grade 7 AMEB piano exams and do some singing. Can anyone help me out?

>>68601771
download a DAW, Ableton and FL Studio are the two common ones (but don't download FL Studio unless you are a wannabe beats kiddie) and start dapping away t it

>>68601573
>mac
clyp.it's plebfilter is blocking you

>>68599797
yeah except they aren't, unless you don't really think about it

>>68597431
I <3 FL Studio

>>68601284
install asio4all and configure it

>>68601804
but seriously why can't I upload anything

>>68601989
Because you are using a mac

>>68601802
Thanks senpai!!

if anyone has some pointers on improving production for my tracks, that would be splendid. i do have a few specific questions as well if someone more knowledgable would humor me.
>but first, latest track: https://soundcloud.com/isaiah-vanderhyden/start-again

1. so i used compression to up the vocals and then again on the master track but it still came out relatively quiet in both aspects. anything i can do there?
2. when i exported my track as an mp3, i exported uncompressed, then uploaded the same track to soundcloud. i understand soundcloud isn't going to sound like a .flac file every single time, but i'm hearing differences in individual track levels between the DAW playing the track, the mp3 i exported, and then the soundcloud version, going best sounding to worst sounding respectively. is that because i have no idea how to master or is that just the nature of the beast, uploading to a lossy site?

thanks to anyone who takes the time to help me out.

>>68602963
>1. so i used compression to up the vocals and then again on the master track but it still came out relatively quiet in both aspects. anything i can do there?

What exactly do you mean by this? I mean, what exactly did you do?

anyone play guitar here p;

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is this a decent first board to get?

i already have multiple samplers and a push i'm just looking for something more tactile to do chord progressions on

>>68603034
>using GB because i am pleb that just starting recording

went to compression option on vocal track, turned it up a little, then turned up the gain until it sounded audible, yet level with the rest of the tracks. lowered the compression on the master track because the overall track was too quiet. i couldn't go too far or it started to get clippy. i assume that's because i had the mic too close to the cab, but whatever, i can fix that in another song.
but yeah, that's how i used compression. lower peaks and troughs to reduce clipping and up the gain to compensate, right? r-right??

>>68603249
That's one way, but if the vocals are in the same frequency as the background it could get lost. You could consider some soft sidechain eq compression, taking the vocals signal to open up a bit of a gap for them to push through louder.

>>68603249
>GB

wait, GB, as in Garage Band?

>>68603410
pls no judge, i'm saving up to buy a real DAW ;_;

>>68603384
so bump the EQ in the main vocal frequencies and reduce them a little in the same areas in the rest of the tracks?

>>68603525
That's the sledgehammer approach, I've never used GarageBand so don't know if you can sidechain it, but it could work

>>68603249
>>68602963
Sounds like you just need to get a solid foundation in the basics. Check out videos on the proper use of compression and EQ, and read some SoundonSound articles about it.

http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/compression-made-easy
http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/whats-frequency
http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/mixing-essentials

>>68603525
You might not have to do both, the bump in the vocals might be all you need or the cut in the other tracks might be all you need. That's the basic idea behind complementary EQ, which is what that technique is called.

I'm currently record my guitar like this:
Guitar -> Amp -> 6.3 mm to 3.5 mm -> Line-in port on my PC

Planning to move soon, so I want to get rid of useless shit and have a more portable/compact way of recording, thinking of something like this:
Guitar -> INSERT SHIT HERE -> Laptop


I guess I need some kind of an amp to go in between the two - are there any tiny amp-like devices that would do the job and allow me to still pick up clean, unmodified sound on the laptop? Are there any cheap chinese things I could buy that would fit the purpose?

>>68603538
it's basically dumbed down Logic Pro.

>>68603577
thanks for the links. reading now.

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>>68603760
Audio interface

>>68603823
does that come with cubase?

>>68604059
Not that I know of. Look around and find a deal. You don't necessarily have to get that specific one; a decent starter interface will be at least around 100-150 bucks and you can find them used on eBay for less.

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What's going on with all the ableton hate in here recently? To begin with all the hate was directed at the traditional daws while everyone seemed to be using ableton and fruity, then it turned to the fruity users and now the ableton users are getting it.
So what the fuck is everyone using? I always thought it was 70% Ableton, 29% fruity and 1% other.

I'm a Maschine user myself, but previously was a cubase/logic user.

Anyway I thought I'd post this link up as you guys like to shitpost every new thread with what daw is better. Maybe you can find your answer there or even contribute to the thread if you know why the daw you use is superior to all the others.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/175752-what-best-sounding-daw-software-out-there.html

>>68604059
My focusrite came with ableton lite. Steinberg do their own interface and I'm pretty sure you can get a decent bundle with both

>>68604398
Most of the DAW arguments are about things which were valid 5-10 years ago but don't exist anymore. The improvements in the latest versions of the DAWs like AbletonLive9, FL12 basically erase most of the previous arguments.

Thesedays it's just about which you prefer. I prefer Ableton, I have used others before and it's just the one which feels natural to me.

DAW wars are just retarded in the current year

>>68604398
i think it's just the one guy who keeps trying to force the NO MONO XD meme

>>68604398
>What is the best sounding DAW software out there?

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>>68604398
>gearslutz

>>68603182
for this price yes

>>68600289
agree

https://clyp.it/0d5x2a2y?token=572d23f7e1be484b39227551234d3842

the drums are kinda shitty, as well with the mix

i dont have my monitors with me currently, so the mix is pretty fucked. ill fix it when i have them

>>68603823
thanks man!

the very model you sent me doesn't seem too bad price wise, but I'm a cheapskate and I'm just wondering if there are any reasonably good chinese equivalents (a la BM-xxx microphones)?

>>68606172

M8 that's the base of your audio signal and therefore not the place you want to be being a "cheapskate" if anything spend a bit more here.

>>68603182
>throw a random ouseless bullshit on a cheap MIDI just to raise the price

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Is Teenage Engineering a meme brand? Their products seem very comfy and I'm looking into buying one of their Pocket Operators.. Anyone have experience with them?

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>>68607306

>>68603182
the keybed sucks imo
go try it out at a store for yourself

>>68604398
>>68604876
i have gear and gearslutz is still bad

how does venetian snares make such spastic drum patterns? im pretty sure he uses hardware and none of it seems to loop much if not any?

>>68607761
if i understand the type of snare patterns you are referring too, they sound like they are triggered by a modular just sending gate signals via midi.

>>68578986
https://youtu.be/pb8BiQR9RTI

Does anyone know if the EDM foundations course is worth taking ? I want to learn ableton and it's secrets, I've read the manual and watched a ton of YouTube tutorials so I pretty much know the basics.

What I'm trying to say is that I wanna see and interact with making random full songs as practice so I can get used to it.

>>68608605
>ableton and it's secrets

>>68608631
I don't fucking know man I just need an answer

>>68608605
>making random full songs as practice so I can get used to it.

just keeping doing this for several months and you'll be fine

>>68607761

AFAIK he does everything in Renoise nowadays. Programming intricate drum patterns is very easy with trackers.

>>68608638
Figuriing it out yourself is going to be faster if you are dedicated. You won't learn everything in a week anyway.

What makes one synth sound diffrent from another synth?

>>68608809
The DAW engine and your ears.
(My red might not be your red)

>>68608864
I guess I should have said physical synths, digital or analogue

>>68608809
>>68608903
all of the components have their own unique character that affects the sound. Even two copies of the same analog synth can sound slightly different from each other.

sup /prod/

anyone going to see survive on this tour? its already sold out in my city, wondering if they are worth the aftermarket prices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxKXOoa6gb8

>>68604398
gearslutz and kvr are all shills posting to eachother with very little real users

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https://clyp.it/ns2n3opc
Thoughts?

>>68609903
Sounds weirdly muffled otherwise cool

>>68609903
-snare is retarded
-overusing bitcrusher (there's better sounding ways of achieving lofi like tape emulators and filtering)
-muddy lo mids

otherwise this is dope. Really nice composition

https://clyp.it/llocmhr0

>>68610397
>-overusing bitcrusher (there's better sounding ways of achieving lofi like tape emulators and filtering)
Do you know of any tape emulating effect for download?

any tips of making guitar melodies on a midi keyboard?

>>68610664
the waves ones are the industry standard but annoying to torrent. There should still be a dl for u-he satin up on extrator It's a great plugin. Ozone 7 has a pretty good one too

>>68610786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh-hzbG5FzI

are you rich?

>>68610922
meant for >>68610782

https://clyp.it/5lqizana
what am I doing wrong here

>>68610922
this looks really fun but is 2000 dollars

>>68579345
I like it. The kick feels out of place though, either out of key or its too "loose". I really enjoy the violin type sound, the upward arpeggio.

>>68578986
What's the best/fastest way to learn piano for electronic music/pop? Should I just start learning chords?

>>68578986

Word of advice to all these new producers in this thread. If you want to be famous, learn how to make hip hop and more importantly learn how to sample.

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>>68612395

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>>68612395
>he thinks anyone will trust his advice without hearing his shit

>>68612395
Thanks, random unvetted internet guy posting on an anime message board!

>>68612710
*Laotian knitting forum

>>68611875
just smash your keyboard, play random notes and call it avant garde pop

>>68603760
>>68603760
Scarlet focus rite 2i4 is a great pick. Super silent high quality amps. Should go for used 2i4 off eBay for maximum effectiveness/efficiency. I think you should avoid the 2i2 and the solo (I think that's what it's called) cus they have lower quality amps and break easily.

Learn minor and major scales and the chords (or harmony) that come from them as well as basic chord progressions (or harmonies). You can find all that over at music theory.net

Ear training Is not essential but it's pretty cool, a trained ear will help in melody writing (improv). Checkout teoria.com it has a lot of good exercises too.

>>68613109
Was for >>68611875

>>68612500
>>68612502
>>68612710

Eh take it or leave it, doesn't matter to me

clyp.it/rkld5jzz

>>68613560
Should I finish this

>>68613560
wait....I'm confused.

how many songs is this? If you're considering this to be one track we got some talking to do