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becuas "lefty scum" are more crative :&)

>>68573898
Music is about emotions and feelings, not thinking

Because reality has a liberal bias.

>>68573958
It can be a mix

>>68573958
This. The best musicians are usually left-leaning because they know how to convey emotions and appeal to normal people. At the same time, being left-wing makes you look more compassionate - and musicians usually like to have good publicity, so it's also partially to do with public image aswell.

>>68573969
Lel who's this retard

Why do you care?

>>68574196
Logically, Clinton should be in jail.
In reality, she's the next POTUS.

>>68573898
you do realize /mu/ is a left-wing board right?

>>68574059
Do you really think a lot of musicians are conservatives that act liberal to look good? How delusional can you be.

Musicians are usually artists and intellectuals

>>68574292
/thread

>>68574292
this

>>68574292
Keyword here is 'intellectual'. Intellectuals base their opinions on research and facts so usually they end up being 'lefty scum'.

>>68574284
you are the delusional one.

>>68573898
They may be lefty scum, but you enjoy their music, lel.

>>68574237
This. Conservashits are overly obsessed with Libs. Ya'll should be asking yourselves why your half of the population is such a creative deadzone.

>>68573898
conservatives have always been the party of realism when it comes to politics. Instead of "what's in line with our ideals?" conservatives usually think more about "what's better for us"
so in terms of art conservatives usually find it not worthy of their time or frivolous or childish because it doesn't benefit them
this isn't necessarily a bad thing but it is characteristic of that ideology
liberals however have much stronger convictions about ideology and philosophy and that comes out in their music
self-expression has always been a "lefty" thing because its an expression of those ideals and feelings which strong convictions are made about

>>68573969
>liberal
>leftist

pick one

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>>68574606
>he's not an American

>>68573898
Back to /pol/
>>68574490
Good point, but rational thinking libs are definitely the realist party. They're more creative, innovative, and think a lot more than conservatives. If this weren't true, why do liberals tend be the non-religious party while conservatives are the opposite and reject evolution, global warming, etc because "lol tradition xD"

>>68574490
>Conservatives
>Realism

>>68574876
Confirmed for knowing nothing about religion.

>>68574284
>act liberal to look good
it's called pandering, and I imagine it happens quite a bit

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>>68574987
god lmao

>>68574876
>reject evolution, global warming, etc because "lol tradition xD"
Its not tradition, its because thats ALL a load of crap

>>68574876
>>68574912
Not realism as in the traditional sense, as in the political sense of "how can this benefit me or my party?" type of way

>>68575164
>it's a load of crap
reads like the "because the bible said so"

>>68575209
No, real science doesn't back any of those up (unless you read establishment and lefty scientists - LOL!).

>>68574346
leftists routinely ignore facts that go against their progressive ideals

Stuff like Gays are sexual deviant pedos and Trannys are just generally fucked in the head from the get go

>>68575209
If Lefties are into science and fact why do they get so angry about race and IQ?

;)

>>68575294
Those aren't facts

>>68575353
Something like 40% Trannies have attempted suicide.

>>68575414
Because of how they are treated by reactionary moralists like you.

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This is not really true. Yeah, you have bands like The Dicks who are hardcore commies but most "leftist" musicians are just edgy liberals like Bono. There are a lot of far-right musicians too, which tends to be more romantic in its outlook, especially when it's tied up with nationalism.

>>68575164
>>68575280
Ignore this guy, he's obviously baiting. No logically sane person is going to deny Evolution. If you are, you're literally basing all of your beliefs off of one book.

>>68575447
the only right-wing musicians I can think of are either completely irredeemable dogshit or do black metal.

>>68575414
and what of the other 60%, Cletus? Shall they be tarred and feathered for going against the narrative?

>>68575487
they should be treated for gender dysmorphia before they ruin their lives

>>68574240
she's conservative as fuck though

>>68575280
>lefty scientists
A scientist's political alignment is irrelevant. Science is science. Results of a scientific enquiry are based on objective measurement.

>>68575482
>Morrissey
>Bowie (briefly)
>most neofolk
>a lot of industrial
>a lot of classical
Prog rock/metal are also vaguely reactionary but I can't think of any bands who have made any definite political statements of that nature. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Robert Fripp came out as a monarchist or some edgy shit.

>>68575337
Those are the bad lefties. There's an equal amount of ignorant, overly-religious, redneck-y conservatives that are just as bad, if not worse than the SJWs.

I'm libertarian and support Trump btw, so don't accuse me of being bias.

who /r/theredpill/ here
I'm not seeing why 4 chan is considered redpilled, is it just not on the music board?

>>68574240
Thank god she's a liar and a crook. That means she'll do nothing about gun control.

>>68573898
probably because a lot of rock and pop has its origins in the Big Bang of creativity that was the 1960s. So the newer musicians that emulated their favorite music in the 1960s adopted their politics and philosophy as well. This is why music that doesn't derive from this time period (i.e. country and folk) is still conservative

>>68575294
>Uptighty Righties routinely ignore facts that go against their regressive ideals
>like stats that prove Gays aren't all sexual deviant pedos and studies that prove Trannys aren't just generally fucked in the head from the get go

>>68575623
Kaczynski lived in a hut and worshipped a rabbit, I can't really expect any political analysis of his to be at all lucid

Clinton isn't even what I would consider to be a proper lefty, people in the USA seem to have a fucked up perspective as to what being left actually means. Which I guess is some saw Bernie Sanders as a commie. LOL

>>68574876
>reject evolution
no one does this anymore outside of the deep south

>tfw i'm a moderate nationalist republican who also wholeheartedly believes in climate change
guess i'm destined to be a loner

>>68575857
Diogenes lived in a barrel so I guess he was a retard too.

>>68575877
Turns out Donal "Putin Puppet" Drumpf was the secret Commie all along.

>>68575337
Because they need black voters. Because a connection between race and IQ would make the institution of science look bad. Because they can play the shortsightedness of black people to their advantage and pit them against conservatives by scapegoating conservative whites for the failure of the black communities.

Is this thread about music or complaining about the left?

>>68575958
To be fair, there is a lot of truth in stating that conservative whites tend to hold racist views, and thus help maintaining the "white people are racist" stereotype. And that's regardless of whether you think their racism is justified or not.

>>68575764
Idk about Folk it seems pretty evenly split at least among popular acts

Because most of the population is lefty
Because most right wing musicians don't make their political views public

>>68573958
>>68574059
No, you are both idiots for thinking this, regardless if you meant that in a positive or negative way.

>>68574284
It does happen though. Frank Zappa, Ian Curtis, that Ramones guy, etc

>>68574266
That's about to change

>>68575487
Make it happen!

>>68574292
Nah.

>>68574386
Except it's not?

>>68574490
This makes more sense. Not because of the "more realist thing" (way too biased), but because they are less of an ideologue, instead pursuing for more "practical" jobs.

>>68575974
The left is literally why we can't have nice things

>>68575604
Libertarianism is a shit. It's liberal conservatism where it's at now.
Although not gonna lie, a libertarian society would be the funnest ever.

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>>68575921
>the living conditions of a homeless criminal 2000 years ago compared to a PhD-holding mathematician in the modern era
Gee, how similar. And Diogenes criticized people he actually knew personally, whereas Teddy probably couldn't name more than a handful of contemporary leftists at the time he was writing his manifesto. It's like when /pol/ pretends to have high-level political discussion when 90% of them haven't read a book since high school.

>>68576062
holy fuck I thought I filtered you

>>68576074
Why would you, anon? I could change just for you.

>>68575659
why do you believe in religion and deny science?

>>68576062
>needy tripfag also happens to a butthurt reactionary
Gee how shocking

>>68576108
I'm not a reactionary though. How did you came with that conclusion? I'm pretty liberal socially speaking.
And I'm not butthurt nor needy.

>>68574386
It's because everyone hates them and thinks their morons, and they can't understand why. So they rationalize that most people are bad. Conservatives are miserable cynics.

>>68576062
I thought you were bad before
whew

>>68575958
There is no completely credible science behind race and IQ. Proponents generally cite unscientific studies that are disavowed by actual scientists and then the alt right start crying about how biased academia is because it doesn't align with their beliefs

>>68575854
You're just making things up

>>68576136
WEON PARA

>>68576011
>there is a lot of truth in stating that conservative whites tend to hold racist views,
I never said they didn't. It's not an excuse for black failure though. Our system is not "rigged" in favor of whites when jews and asians are doing better than whites. Also, the idea racism is an exclusive phenomenon among whites is the height of folly.

>>68576136
>replied to 90% of the posts in the thread and everyone who replied to you
>"I'm not butthurt nor needy"
wew lad

>>68576136
>i'm pretty liberal socially speaking

So you are libertarian

>>68576253
jews are white people

>>68576210
>You're just making things up
Right back atcha

>>68576166
Like you are doing now?

>>68576210
What's wrong?
In all honesty, the IQ debate on race is a pretty big mess, and I'm always skeptical of both proponents.

>>68576238
NOO

>>68576265
Libertarianism is very extreme. Classical liberal would be more accurate, I guess. Maybe a bit to the right, a bit more to the left, I wouldn't know yet, there is a lot of research to do, which is pretty difficult because everybody is biased.

>>68576253
Jews count as white in the western world. Only anti-Semites think otherwise.
The only reason the "white people are racist" stereotype is so prominant is just because of history and just how insanely big the white population really is when you look at it.

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>>68576302
SI PARA CTMMM

>>68576210
>There is no completely credible science behind race and IQ
There is no completely credible science that definitively refutes the connection between race and IQ either so issue remains open. A lot more research about the human brain needs to be done before it can be ruled out. IMO, with all the crime rate statistics, lower IQ scores, and higher poverty among black people, there seems to be more evidence that suggest we're different than evidence that suggest we're exactly the same.

>>68576280
That's debatable. But either way, Asians are not white.

>>68576253
The system is not rigged against minorities today but it was less than 50 years ago, if you want to get technical the 1970s was when property laws against minorities were repealed. That is barely over one generation of people time wise so its not crazy that minority communities would still be feeling the effects of those laws today.

The system is against poor people more than anything, and guess who tend to be poorer?

>>68576417
>The system is against poor people more than anything, and guess who tend to be poorer?
People with low IQs?

>>68576377
Parala tu, m3n

>>68576407
You're associating traits related to culture rather than genetic.

>>68576433
(Hint: it's minorities)

>>68576062
>unironically blaming the left for all your problems
>no, I'm not a reactionary
What did he mean by this

>>68576433
You think they're poor because they have low iq's?

>>68576461
That must be a coincidence. It's definitely people with low IQs.

>>68576472
What!?
I don't think you understood correctly my post nor you know what reactionary means.

>>68576444
>related to culture rather than genetic.
That's debatable since we don't know enough about the human brain to completely rule out the role of genetics. IMO, it may be a combination of both.

>>68576433
CUANTOS AÑOS TIENES

>>68576509
I don't know your background but I'm assuming you're not a psychologist or a neurologist or some similar field so I don't see how you have an opinion on something that you yourself said is not known to professionals let alone laymen.

Me and the other four guys in my band are all voting for the right-wing nationalist party here in Sweden. We don't even play black metal.

>>68576508
I feel like you're just saying things without understanding the point

>>68576597
>you're not allowed to develop opinions on things you're not a professional in

Are you a musician? If not then why are you here?

>>68576717
Because music isn't an objective field where data matters. It also can't potentially be used to validate subjecting a class of people unjustly, unlike the topic being discussed

>>68577019
Are you a politician? I trust that you have no political opinions then.

>>68573969
>reality has a bias

>>68576627
Good. It's the only thing that will save swedenstan.

>>68573898
Why do you care about the political views of musicians unless it's actively and consistently relevant to their work?

>>68575506

>*they should be treated for gender dismorphia before I and others like me ruin their lives

>>68576717

I believe you may want to reread the comment bud

>an opinion on something that you yourself said is not known to professionals let alone laymen

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>>68573898
Why are so many businessmen and bankers righty scum? Pic unrelated


I hope that answers your question, OP