/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

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First for extended range memes

3rd for Jap fenders

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I've been listening to a lot Thee Oh Sees while researching amps and it's partially convinced me to get some sort of 70s MusicMan combo. If the guy who has the 65 head is here: are there any models I should seek out in particular/avoid? I basically want the smallest good one I can find since they mostly seem to be Twin-esque overkill.

>>68426028
>SE made in Korea at the same shithole that makes Captain Skinconditions guitars
That factory actually makes pretty good cheap-mid-level guitars though

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>>68426147
literally perfect

>>68426147

Fuck PRS

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yo i want to sound like this faggot here. i know its not actually possible but does anyone know what kind of amp he is using. i know about the bass but not the amp

>>68426131
what's up with that partial middle pickup?

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>>68426131
oh hellz yiss gooby

>>68426214
Don't like Sting but check this out

http://www.uberproaudio.com/who-plays-what/66-stings-bass-gear-rig-and-equipment

>>68426180
Faux P90 stuff with bridge you can't intonate isn't one of them.

>>68426214
Always thought it sounded like an ampeg SVT. Got that clean / gritty sound

>>68426326
what would you recommend?

>>68426340
What are you after?

So I really want to start playing guitar, a friend recommended an Epiphone Les Paul Special II Ebony. It's cheap too.

>>68426359
Solid body with p90s and a thinner neck for some prog wankery jams with some buds.

>>68426082
Gotta love that "dude is licking my navel" feel when playing the guitar.

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What's /gg/'s opinion on pre 1957 p basses?

>>68426444
No

>>68426410
Why the hell you'd want a noisy as fuck p90 for that is beyond me.

>>68426082
>Putting his face where most people place their balls when playing

Great idea Gibson

>>68426410
just get an ibenhadz and put a phat cat in dummy

>>68426542
i grew up on tmv. I really like the sound of the prs here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpd8PMPtNwY

>>68426579
Buy a chorus pedal then, there's nothing distinct about that sound.

>>68426596
this still leaves me no closer to choosing an actual instrument first.

>>68426444

tele neck is the goat

>>68426612
There's nothing wrong with PRS SE as such, just get something with a bridge you can adjust depending on how thin/thick strings you want. Pre-intonated bridges like that only really works if you use the exact string thickness it came with from the factory.

>>68426617
I still can't get used to the headstock. It just reminds me of a person with a really weak chin.

>>68426612
The P90 prs is fine. Worst case scenario you just buy a new bridge if you absolutely can't get it to intonate (not likely)

>>68426147
>tiny fretboard radius
>no neck tilt

Literal meme instruments for children

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>2017 LP Standard colors
>Bourbon Burst

Orgasm.jpg

How do I get good at soloing/creating riffs? I can't seem to make anything good out of scales.

>>68426340
I posted in the last thread not realizing it 404'd. The SE Soapbar II was my first guitar, and by far the best quality SE line guitar I've ever played. Their new SE stuff is not as good as the stuff from the years that the Soapbar II was made.

I wish I hadn't sold it. It's an excellent guitar. I never had an issue with the bridge, in fact I wouldn't mind having that bridge on a future guitar.

If you can get a good price on one, take it. P90's are noisy by nature, but if that's your sound then go for it.

Ignore people who tell you to avoid PRS just because they hate the brand. This is as bad as people who say avoid any other brand entirely for no reason.

>>68426837
Fuck off plen

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>>68427208
yeah listen to this guy bruh. I hear slabs made of bondo do wonders for your tone

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>>68427263

Can we stop posting meme guitars and actually focus on quality instruments for once?

Jaguars and mystangs do not count.

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how do I record something
what do I need to do so?

>>68427313
Peavey T-40 a best bass

>>68427334
An cheap audio interface and audacity.

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>>68427263
You know, I never noticed it until now, but that heel is wrong. That's not a PRS heel... too small. The only pictures I can find of a supposed "PRS" with a heel like that are the pictures from ed romans website, which is (for those who don't know) the guy who made up the story about the bondo PRS.

Pic related is what a PRS heel shape/size looks like.

Concrete proof that ed roman is a jackwagon who faked his own death so he could post more lies on /gg/.

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>>68427313
Sure thing, friend

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>>68427365
http://www.edroman.com/techarticles/prs_heel.htm

Ed Roman used to specialize in removing those ridiculous heels sticking up into the 15th fret on a double cutaway (something even a shitty Fender doesn't have). PRS has to use that heel because they're notorious for using shitty third rate rubbery mahogany that would bend and keep the guitar constantly going out out tune. It became a standard feature at one point and Ed used to evaluate the stiffness of the neck on a PRS and then recommend his heel reduction procedure if he thought the neck would hold tune afterwards. This was so the player could comfortably get the most out of the instrument past the 12th fret (lol).

On a side note it'd be nice if you were informed even once when you commented, PRS fag.

>>68427313
*posts my collection of budget squiers that I bought with the money mom pays me for chores*

Hey guys do you think I should ask for a shitty mexican mustang or a shitty japanese strat for christmas? I don't care about specs at all.

I swear this is all that's posted been posted here these past few months.

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>>68427551
>Look At That Monster Heel Behind The Neck
Look At The Wraparound Bridge With Zero Adjustment
top kek based ed roman laying out the truth

>>68427656
You don't need adjustment if it's perfect from the factory

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>>68427551
>http://www.edroman.com/techarticles/prs_heel.htm
fuck that some savage ass shit right there

Bass newb here, looking to buy a Peavy T-40 online.

What should I look for when buying one sight unseen?

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>>68427746
>You don't need adjustment if it's perfect from the factory
lol

PRS fags, ladies and gentlemen.

I rest my case.

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>>68427263
>>68427293
>>68427365
>>68427551
>>68427656
>>68427782
meme r s a shit. go gibson or go home

Is there a buying guide for acoustic guitars?

Elvis Presleys live albums have some of the sexiest guitar tones.

how do i into bar chords

>>68428077
Don't be a handlet.

Go to the gym you lanky fucking teenager. I'll bet you watch anime.

Amp that can do rock, metal, jazz, country and pop. Budget is 4 grand

>>68426160
The fuck is that thing of top of his amp

>>68428846
just buy 8 line 6 spiders

>>68428863
a gay guitar strap he's a fag

>>68428863
A monitor.

>>68428846
Kemper

>>68428869
The new ones are actually pretty good.

>>68428863
A Roland Space Echo

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>>68426160
lmao this guy looks like he's trying every trick in the book to get peoples attention away from his face

>>68427334
>>68427354

If your amp has an xlr line out, then you can do line out to usb audio interface to pc. Or if it has a headphone jack you can use that for the same chain but probably worse quality. Or even worse quality if you go headphone jack to line in on your soundcard. Audio interfaces often do have a port to hook a guitar in to directly but the tone will be bad.

Other options;
>guitar specific DI to audio interface to pc.
>mic to audio interface to pc

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did all the paul reed smith faggots run away? get in here I want to kick your ass!

>>68428863
Roland space echo

>>68426082
My hands hurts a ton after playing barres down the neck because it requires too much strenght for all notes to sound. I'm scared that I'll hurt myself if I keep doing this. Should I / Will it get better if I switch my strings to .9s?

>>68429514
Space Keko

>>68429591
No just keep practicing.

>>68427551
My dad has a 1995 that I play, the heel gets thick on the 18th fret, would this be the pre-factory or factory made one. The series number is within the first 200 manufactured within 1995.

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>>68429874
I don't know, dumbass. Go look it up yourself, I don't give a fuck about Paul Reed Shit serial numbers.

>>68426082
I'm a rusty bass player, milk-fed on Sonic Youth, Beefheart, Mike Watt, Paul McCartney, Les Clapypool, Mich Harvey, and Fuck You. I play guitar and piano fuck-all style, and Idgaf. Do you want to do something, or chew the fat?

Didn't think so.

>>68428863
Roland RE-201.

>>68429874
That Ed Roman article is pretty funny really. He's comparing the heels of a 22 and a 24. The heels weren't the same on them. The 24 only got 1/4" longer when it did change.

I don't really like PRS guitars personally but that article is full of misinformation.

>Inb4 the shit poster tries to jump down my throat
I don't care.

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>>68426082
thoughts on my bass?

>>68430140
10/10 would stab guitarist with lower horn

>>68430140

I kinda like this.

>>68430140
Did you at least nickname it Vlad the Impaler?

because holy shit those horns

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>>68430025
>I don't really like PRS guitars personally but that article is full of misinformation.
lol

Nice try, PRS fag. Must be why it's the first thing that comes up when you search "paul reed smith heel" on Google. But yeah, "misinformation".
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=paul+reed+smith+heel

The truth is the reason that ridiculous heel is still being used is because it's still common for PRS to use rubbery mahogany and that heel is absolutely necessary for basic rigidity in most cases or the guitar wouldn't come close to staying in tune. Pic related, a $$$$$$ 2011 Paul Reed Smith Private Stock McCarty Signature. Nice, right?

lmao

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>>68430313
>because it's still common for PRS to use rubbery mahogany and that heel is absolutely necessary for basic rigidity in most cases or the guitar wouldn't come close to staying in tune
doesn't explain this this retarded shit though. wtf

>>68430313
i had a prs once
never dug the looks, but the thing played well
and it was a cheap SE

>>68430447
tone heel

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>>68430478
sounds accurate

>>68430313
Are Ed Romans guitars any good?

>>68430588
Ed Roman died. Rumor is he was bumped off by the big guitar cartels for speaking truth to power and blowing out brand slaves on one too many occasions.

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>>68430630
http://www.edroman.com/rants.htm
oh shit this is pure fucking gold

>>68430140
not a huge fan of maple fretboards, but it looks bretty gud and I'm sure it sounds killer tbqh senpai. 7/10 wud impregnate.
Anyways, have you got a sound sample? is that a midid output?

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need help /mu/. I have a pedal which makes feedback loops easy as fuck, but it only starts making feedback loops when the fuzz dial is at 12 o'clock+. from 9 o'clock-12 o'clock on the dial it's a really good, chunky fuzz sound.

thing is, I wanna easily switch between that regular fuzz and the feedback fuzz while playing, so I don't have to bend over to turn the dial when on stage.

is there any solution of quickly switching between spaces on the dial without fucking it up?

if it means needing to buy (a) new pedal(s), I can consider it.

>>68430630
But are the guitars on his site good?

>>68426160
I love the oh sees but the frontman looks like a literal manchild. in the sense that he looks like a child but in the shape of an adult

floating coffin is great though. I gotta listen to a weird exits

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I just ordered this. It's my first tube and I'm super excited

https://reverb.com/item/3221064-orange-tiny-terror-combo

>>68431028
you should buy one and find out for us

>>68430969
there are some feedback pedals with momentary switches that you can stomp and hold.

Else get crazy oscillating fuzz, boost your fuzz, or just do it the old fashioned way
>get loud
>turn toward your amp or press the headstock against the cab

>>68431081
>spend 2 grand on possibly shitty guitar
No

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>>68431423
nigger I said buy one

>>68427854
>It's the weeb who likes Gibsons
PRS guitars are built way better than any Gibson you can buy at a store. Even Roman admits this: http://www.edroman.com/rants/prs_faq.htm

Gibson guitars are built like shit, they're sold on the brand. The Epi LP Ultra is better than some of the lower end Gibson LP's that are 300-400 dollars more. Not to mention how heavy the LP is. Newer Gibson guitars are a waste of money. You can get a Pre 1995 PRS for less than a new LP, and it'll sound and play better.

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>>68431617
naaaaaah your meme r s a shit families

>>68431708
Gibson is complete shit now. Even then, I have a 63' 335, and the heel isn't that much smaller than the PRS.

Fucking weebs, why don't you just kill yourself.

>>68430969
Just stack fuzzes. One for crazy shit and one for your regular sounds. Put your lower gain fuzz first in the chain.

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>>68431617
>>68431782
>PRS fag has now resorted to citing Ed Roman's "misinformation" as legitimate
lmao pic related

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>>68431782
>be me
>buy a gibson les paul
>its better than a meme r s in every conceivable way
you should prolly cry about it

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>>68431617
>>68431782
>it's another my subjective opinion is objective fact episode

o am i laffin

>>68431900
>every anon is the same person
How do you tie your shoes in the morning?

>>68431958
>be you
>buy a gibson les paul
>get memed on
Ahah how's the nut in your guitar m8? I remember I had to get my LP's nut and tuners replaced right away after I got it because it couldn't stay in tune for more than 30 minutes at a time.

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>>68432083

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>It's another thread arguing about Gibson

>Captcha: Close M8

>Ed Roman
>Roman

it all makes sense now

>>68431798
you think a cheap $20 behringer fuzz pedal would suffice either for the crazy feedback or the low fuzz tone? I'm sorta going for a bit of a les rallizes denudes sound on this.

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>>68432083
Poor ol' PRS fag.

What a cross to have to bear.

>>68432300
http://www.edroman.com/rants/les_paul_necks.htm

I have an early 2000's or 90's mexi strat I play as well( and the aforementioned 63' 335 for Jazz gigs).

>>68432272
Sure, they're Boss Clones so they typically sound nearly the same. The only thing is they add a bit of hiss to the signal, its subtle but it's there. I never noticed until I got a nice power supply though.

>>68431079
How loud is a 15 watt Tube, vs. say, a 40 watt SS.

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>>68432240
You know I Love me some newfriends >>68432354.

friendly reminder to take your guitar in for a tune up :)

Anyone here play heavy bass/play with a pick and utilize multiple strings at a time (forgive my lack of eloquence here)? Do any of you have a problem with breaking strings? I use light gauge strings and have broken THREE within the past couple months. I don't play particularly hard, I'm not exactly pounding the fuckers. Would using a stronger gauge remedy this? How likely is it that I'm going to cause heavy gauge strings to unwind?

>>68431798
>>68430969
Yeah man, just get two of the same pedal. Paul Banks from Interpol uses two MXR Carbon Copys

>>68432435
I've been meaning to do this for awhile. where do you take your guitar to get it worked on

>>68432408
here is a good demo comparing various wattage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBNChipQHh8

>>68432444
Switch to a heavier gauge, yeah. I almost never break strings and I play pretty aggressively (I also use super heavy 110s). You probably have nothing to worry about in terms of unwinding.

Side note, where are they breaking? Nut? Bridge? Elsewhere? It might not be a playing issue, but a problem with the nut or bridge.

>>68432479
just me local guitar shoppe

Can anyone tell me why my pick keeps sliding around in my fingers? My thumb is getting raw as fuck.

>>68432499
Thanks anon

>>68432530
Alright, thanks for the tip man. They're breaking around the bridge.

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What's /mu/'s thoughts on my baby? I dread having to work on any wiring issues.

>>68432612
It might be that you have a sharp burr or scratch around where your strings rest on the bridge then. I'd take a look at it and maybe try gently sanding any rough spots you find the next time you change strings.

>>68432410
>newfriend
The newfriend is the gibson fanboy.

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>>68432713
I think I'm in love here, kiss me on the lips?

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>>68432672
lol I'm gonna use this for bait in the next thread senpaitachi

>>68432683
Alright, I will try giving it a closer look.

>>68431079
Congrats
I have the Tiny & Dark Terror heads
Love them

>>68432672
>Tfw scored one of these for $30 at a pawn shop cause they didn't know what it was, but sold it for $300 cause didn't want to deal with the wiring

>>68427345
Yeah, I know

Which is why I need folks to tell me what to look for in one if I buy it online, since there don't seem to be any in the mid-atlantic at all.

What goes wrong with them?

Do they have any neck warping issues?

And is there really a difference between the toasters and the blades?

I found a 79 natural finish with rosewood fretboard and a white pickguard for $500. What should I look for, and should I jump on it?

>>68432743
>>68432410
>>68432300
Roman pls go and stay go

I have the chance to get either a Marshall DSL40c or a Blackstar Club 40 for $400 which do I go with?

Guys I'm looking for a new bass. My budget is 650. I don't really know what I'm looking for so just recommend anything you like and post pics of your basses for me please.

>>68432300
DUDE HEROIN LMAO

>>68433440
>Marshall DSL40c for $400
uh

>>68433774
? Those are around $700 here. Blackstar is around $600

>>68427197
Sync the scales to the beats

Google it if you don't know what I'm talking about

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>>68433510
Westone Thunder Jet. Like it a lot, both aesthetically and when it comes to sound.
Currently I'm looking for a fretless on the side though.

>>68428077
Practice

Seriously, just keep doing it until it's down. It's not hard, it just takes persistence. Fail at it until you succeed at it.

>>68433510
a new bass? meaning u already own one? which one you own if that's the case

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>>68433510
I'm a total newbie who loved the Rick do and but didn't want to pay the Rick price, so I'm look for a Peavey T-40 since they seem to be 9/10ths the sound for 1/3rd the price of a 4001/4003.

Otherwise, I have no idea what new basses for <$650 are decent. Probably a few of the Ibanez offerings, though.

>>68431079
NOISE

>>68426082
That faggot boaster deserved it

>>68434114
*The Rick sound

>>68428077
For E shape barre if you have power chords down a trick I like to do is to just start like you're playing a basic G like this:
D --5--
A --5--
E --3--
then all you have to do is bring your ring finger down to 4th fret G string and press the side of your index down and you're playing a major barre chord. And obviously if it's minor you don't even have to worry about the ring finger

Guitarfag here, I just picked up a bass a week or two for recording purposes. I normally play in drop B, but my bass was tuned standard when I got it. I need to tune it down, but I've heard if you just outright downtune it like you would with a guitar, it will fuck up the neck/truss rod due to the pressure balance or whatever. wat do?

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>>68434048
This Korean p bass ripoff. Ugly, buzzy and shitty electronics.

trying to setup my focusrite with guitar rig 5, already have my guitar plugged into the focusrite, the sound isn't coming on in guitar rig, what the hell do I do?

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>>68429193
>mic to audio interface to pc
no, not this
are you fucking crazy?

The line gain for a mic interface is entirely different to the line gain of an instrument cable

jesus

>>68429383
>did all the paul reed smith faggots run away? get in here I want to kick your ass
poorfag?

its okay. I don't like meme guitars. I stick to either my USA tele or my USA G&L Comanche

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Haven't changed the strings for a little over a month now. When should I change my strings?

>>68434626
How is Fender not a meme brand?

>>68434662
every 1-3 months, depending on how much you play

>>68434626
poorfag?
Ed Roman from the grave

>>68434662
Whenever they start to sound/feel bad.

>>68433874
Looks beautiful dude. I couldn't find any thunder jets but I was able to find a concord bass. I'm also looking at the epiphone thunderbirds.

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>>68434895
>>68434711
Gonna go get them changed tomorrow then. They're feeling stiff and becoming discolored.

>>68434949
>get them changed
Do it yourself anon

>>68434604
Usb audio interface, anon. Not a guitar DI. Most audio interfaces have mic in as well as line in. They are built specifically to handle a few different types of inputs.

>>68434604
Interfaces are built specifically to handle those changes in gain stages, anon. There's no issue with that

>>68434965
The music store I go to offers free string changes for the first year after a purchase (bought a new guitar back in January) and they service the guitars pretty well.

Plus I like to look at what they have while they do their thing.

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Go 5-piece maple neck compound radius ebony fretboard hand filed frets coil splittable graphtech saddle dual action truss rod or go home

>>68435276
>Agile

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>>68435306
>Gibson

>>68435390
Point out where I posted a Gibson or complemented Gibson :^)

>>68435422
>>Agile

>>68435510
Oh! Gibson and Agile are the only two guitar makers in the world. Sorry, I forgot.

>>68434487
can anyone help?

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>>68435574
>Greentext reply to a Les Paul style guitar
>Implying you're not comparing it to Gibson

>>68435636
I don't really care for Les Pauls in general and the only Gibson model I like is the SG. Also there's a plethora of Les Paul looking guitars so you're wrong again.

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You've remembered to listen to some Luke and Saint George today, right?

Should I get a cheap eq pedal?

>>68434487
do you have asio installed?
does your pc pick up your interface?
is the volume set right?

>>68434662
every day

pickups > model

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is rocksmith any good for a complete beginner?
i started playing a couple of months ago but haven't progressed at all cause of work/not having enough time
i know playing constantly is the best way to learn, but i think it'll be easier for my add with it
is it good for a complete beginner?
y/n?

>>68437748
You're better off with a shitty song book and a guitar truth be told. Those old books at least taught you basic chord shapes and shit.

Rocksmith is Guitar Hero with tablature.

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Do any of you have a Jaguar and would you mind measure the strings width at the neck and at the bridge. I have a little project im working on

>>68437748
rocksmith is a party game, not actual guitar practice

i know a guy who only practices with rocksmiith and literally doesnt even know the open string notes :/

get a guitar method book and start with the basics

>>68437748

rocksmith doesnt teach any music theory besides scales, it's not good for a complete beginner

you should get a teacher or start with guitar books first

>>68437767
i haven't really tried learning songs, so i was thinking if anything it'd atleast help with that

>>68438239
would you recommend this one
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Mel-Bay/Modern-Guitar-Method-Grade-1-Book.gc#productDetail

>>68438252
what other books would you guys recommend
ty

>>68426082
Based on some advice I adjusted the truss rod. The neck on my guitar is now almost perfectly straight with just the tiniest bit of relief.
It works really well but if I strike the strings too hard I now get slight buzz on the lower frets. Do I need to make a small adjustment and give it more relief or do I need to raise the strings?

>>68436539
yes to all those questions

>>68437748
>>68438397

try out justinguitar, he's great for a beginner

>>68438419
Don't strike too hard. Raise the bridge if it's a major issue.

Kinda want a mustang sized guitar after trying my friend's mustang. How are the squier ones?

Also I'm looking to setup an amp/cab sim. What are the better options now? It doesnt have to be amazing, I just want a decent sound. I havent looked into it much before.

>>68427208
hey thats my first guitar too. also my only guitar

>>68438532
decent for the money. the new $500 MIM's also look good if you don't mind not having the tremelo.

>>68438829
There are budget mim mustangs now? Nice, might check them out. Then again I dont wqnt to drop $500 for it.

>>68438839
http://shop.fender.com/en-US/duo-sonic-mustang

these are all the variants, all the same price i thin.

>>68438856
Tempting. I'll wait for shops around here to stock them and try it out first. Still not sure if I want to drop 500 on it but a maple mustang has been a wet dream for me for a long time.

>>68437938
It's a Squier tho, does it count? High and low strings are 11 and 48

>>68426215
I'm guessing its so that you can play the topmost string without giving a shit about muting the lower, or for cool effects

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>>68438915
Forgot pic

>>68438923
Nice thank you. What size strings are you using and how does it play? I am thinking of getting me a Jaguar (Squier maybe) since I have small hands and I like electronics and a Jaguar has a bunch of buttons and circuits I can mod

>your guitar
>your strap

gogogogogogo

i use a 3" suede bass strap on my tele, and a regular seatbelt-type thing on my strat. rubber grommets for locks.

>>68439111
4003 with a levy's suede strap
C O M F Y

>it's a Dan plays Wicked Game on his Gretsch episode

>>68439426
>it's a Rob wanks off the guitar while Lee contemplates why he's making videos with this manchild episode

>>68435276
>"ebony"

Obviously stained rosewood.

>>68430140
why did you buy a weapon

>>68437748
rocksmith is just as helpful as guitar hero. played it for a while

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Childhood is idolizing electric guitar, adulthood is realizing acoustic guitar makes more sense...

>>68437767
>>68438239
>>68438252
>>68439490
bullshit
im learning only through rocksmith and youtube dudes from time to time and i learned a lot of stuff
i learned chords and you know and stuff

and its just fun to practice because its technically a video game

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enough gear talk post what you're playing right now

https://clyp.it/5erjgogo

>>68439613
>makes more sense
that's a pretty stupid thing to say
instruments don't "make sense"

>>68439111
>gibson j35
>plain black Ernie ball + a buckle thing that allows me to take it off the neck end easily

>>68439756
t. electricfag

>>68439674
Ignore them, they're pretentious fags who've been playing since they were 5 and act like they're too good for a video game.

Rocksmith gets you what you need as a beginner which is finger strength and fretboard knowledge. It lets you "play" along to songs which makes you excited to learn. Then of course it throws in chords/legato/bends as you get better.

Obviously it's only a supplementary tool, not an all encompassing guide to guitar. But it's very good at what it does.

>>68432672
Looks like a fish lure.

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>>68439711
some noodles
https://clyp.it/wli43jf3

>>68437748
Yes it is great. It puts the guitar in your hand and gets you to practice, and God forbid, have fun while practicing. It'll get you more comfortable with your instrument.

Make sure to practice away from it, though, but I think it goes without saying that playing and learning in a variety of styles is the best way to go. Guitar Aerobics is a great book to get along with it for some more practice exercises.

Don't listen to all the pretentious kids who tell you to play scales all day long with a metronome and focus on music theory. It's great and all, but don't be afraid to just do what you want with the thing. It's your hobby and your free time.

>>68440470
the problem with rocksmith is that your techincal abilty quickly exceeds your theoretical knowledge, which leads to fingerfucking the fretboard with no direction or rhythm. v bad.

>>68440765
>play scales

scalefags/shapefags are even worse than tabfags, because they think they actually know shit when they do not. music theory is about understanding melodic phrasing, harmony, intervals, modes, tonic changes, rhythm, chords, etc.

>>68437748
justinguitar is GOAT for beginners for learning chords and intro theory
use rocksmith to learn scales and some songs

http://www.quikcashpawnshop.com/product-p/33747.htm

should i? what kind of music is the jaguar suited to?

>>68441302
Anything that can be covered up by 50 pedals.

>>68440888
Good job not reading the last part of my post

>>68441544
i agree with muh freedoms, was just pointing out /why/ rocksmith inst good for learning to actually play guitar

>>68439613
>i'm 13 and this is deep

>>68438419
If neck relief is correct, meaning the space between string and fret at the 12th is where you want it with capo on first fret and string held down on last fret, then adjust bridge saddles up as desired for your play style.

>>68440949
This
Get a good instructor who knows wtf he's talking about and actually teaches you something, not just pulling it out of his ass.
You'll get more out of it and profit with the knowledge.

>Rocksmith
Entirely anecdotal.
I knew a guy who dicked around on that for a year.
It can teach you songs and finger dexterity, but his tone was extremely poor. He would press down way too hard on the fret raising the note sharp and almost never uses vibrato.

>>68441778
*dynamics were also a foreign concept to him, but that's most electric guitarists as well

>>68439111
I use a bass strap with squishy neoprene type texture. I'm not sure what the material is called, it's the type used in the crotch of bicycle shorts to add padding.

Anyway, on both my guitar and bass i use the planet waves elliptical strap buttons. I really like those. They are not quite as secure as straplocks in theory but much smaller and no hardware required to attach to strap itself. I'm not doing 360 guitar toss over shoulder and around my back so i feel pretty good about the ellipticals as far as ability to keep the strap on.

I don't have any IRL friends, so I just wanted to post this here

I finally played through Ave Maria on the classical without any abrupt pauses, its still pretty rough around the edges but it sounds good now

thanks for subscribing to my blog

>>68441823
>liked and followed

>>68441897
i really like the classical, its a shame its so hard to play

i posted in the last thred (or two?) about buying one.

it makes me feel slightly ashamed too to be honest. when I am playing some of the songs it is, no bullshit, beautiful. its the only way to describe it.
i am by no means a fag who says "i was born in the wrong generation", but it honestly makes you realize that what we consider music today, we are just like children playing with toys. i can't imagine what the true composers and musicians must have sounded like in person

>>68442135
>I was born in the wrong generation: the post
>>>/r/eddit

>>68442135
>deeper than Marianas

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I'm new to pedals. Right now I only have a MIM Strat plugged directly into an AC15CC1. I'm planning to get a Joyo Ultimate Drive (OCD clone). I'm also torn on whether to get a Zoom G3X or a TC Electronic Flashback. I'm mainly looking for a delay and a looper, but the other effects on the G3X are pretty enticing too. What do?

Tl;dr TC Electronic Flashback or Zoom G3X for a pedal noob

>>68442605
Those multi effects dealios are usually pretty crappy at everything. The inexpensive ones are anyway, quantity over quality thing. I would go with the looper pedal.

>>68442605
now in english you egghead

>>68442605
quality over quantity, go for the flashback

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>>68442605
I had a zoom multi and its pretty lousy. I would definitely go for the flashback. Extremely versatile pedal. You may enjoy the versatility of the zoom in the short term but it's very low quality and you will want to replace everything it does with something better.

>>68443340
gee billy, your mom lets you have TWO pickles?

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Are 214 dollars for a Charvel Cds-038 from 1993/94 a decent deal?
Looking for a cheap new guitar.

>>68442605
I have a G3X, the amp sims are decent and the effects get the job done. Like the other anons said though you'll probably end up replacing everything it does in the long run. It's nice as a starter pedal though since it fills out anything you don't already have.

>>68443542
That's a really good deal, snatch it up.

>>68442605
ibanez analog delay mini

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>>68443477
well memed anon

A little help for tonewood corksniffers.

Guy's a bit of a cunt, but he's got a point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVmFlzksMCE

>>68443902
That intro thoe

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>>68443617
I just might do so

>>68443477
I get this in every single thread without fail lel

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>>68443902
Yeah that video has been posted a few times on /gg/. knowledgeable guy but seems to be a real cunt if you read the comment section

>>68444066
I agree; his tangents about taxes and his own guitar builds are meaningless. But the fact is, when it comes down to wood and electronic construction, people are getting reamed.

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>>68426160
John Dwyer is the reason I got my Music Man! Definitely get one, anything over the 70 watt models is overkill. Many MMs have a wattage selector so mine goes from 65 to I believe a 25-35. These things are tanks and super good for pedal platforming. The distortion on these are pretty shit so if you want a heavy tone you'll need a fuzz/OD.
Avoid: combos unless 2x12 if you're doing Oh Sees stuff, and anything with 100+ watts. Those are good as bass amps but guitar overkill
They're technically solid state amps so 65w isn't tube 65w. A good investment would be a head under 75w and a cheap cab. eBay is good to scour for auctions on these since people aren't really going crazy over these yet, I scored mine there for $350 and the orange cab for $125.

>it's taking forever to save up for this beauty

just fucking kill me.

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>>68445067
forgot pic

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>>68433510

>>68445087
>7 string SGs/LPs
don't
for the love of god and taste, please don't

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>>68438532
Wait till they start to sell used, I'm waiting on a Daphne Blue Duo Sonic to hit the used market. Squiers should go down as well but they'll need a pickup upgrade. So will the MiMs but moreso the Squiers. You can also go to warmoth with a Squier neck and quality pickups but I'm not sure on pricing

>>68439024
If you have small hands go for a Jap one with a 7.25 radius

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>>68439111
I know I shitpost these constantly, also my Surf Green Stangs has a matching Surf Green leather strap with a racing stripe

>>68443477
as a previous pickle owner this never fails to get a kek outta me

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What bass is this? Saw it on offerup and I dig it, and its cheap, but I wanna look it up before I buy it.

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>>68445636
That looks like a hagstrom. that string tree is retarded btw

>>68444035
It's what you want. You know it is.

>>68445757
would you reccomend snagging it? its up for 40, seems like a steal.

>>68445894
you should go right now

>>68445894
$40?! go anon go! my local GC had one for $450

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Steve's a pretty cool guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqw76b2rJ6o

>>68439613
You don't have a clue what you're talking about, do you

>>68445929
yeah 40! im p sure its just some person who has had it forever, and doesn't know what it is worth.

>>68445931
I love that goofball

>>68445894
Yes, $40 is cheap and you don't buy these for the comfort of playing anyways. It's just a cool looking bass. This one might need a bit of maintenance to be playable though.

>>68445931
Dweezil Zappa did something kinda similar, but instead of inviting people from the audience, he decided on mashing up arbitrairy time measures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4792&v=NskLRp9MQAs

Both are very fun to watch.

I just played a show and our audio board started losing power so we kept cutting out fml

>>68445187
Used gear market is pretty much dead here where I live. For the less popular stuff anyway. That'd be the best move otherwise though.

>>68443902
>>68444099
Not quite. I'm a physics major though so I can enlighten you.

Different densities in wood affect how much string vibration energy is lost when you pluck a string. A higher density wood will reject the string energy transfer into the body (this is called internal stress) and thus the string will vibrate longer. With that being said keep in mind two pieces of wood from the same tree would probably sound different due to slight differences in density. It would be very hard to attribute a sound to a certain species of wood.

Also keep in mind a higher density neck will resist the physical pull of the strings and thus stay in tune better. This can also be achieved with multi-piece lamination's which is common on 8 string necks for example.

When a manufacturer uses the misleading term "tone wood" they're really referencing a word that a luthier would use to describe a piece of wood that rings out a specific note when tapped. A piece of wood like this would usually be used for an acoustic rather than an electric guitar though.

Is the wood that your electric guitar is made of as important as your amp, pickups, etc.? Obviously not, but the idea that the wood used in an electric guitar has no effect on it's overall sound is wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UFr21jkWOs

is it just me, or do frontmen look really stupid if they're chubby?

>tfw you live in a small town devoid of musicians
Help /gg/ send band members.

>>68447194
That video made me dizzy watching it.
2 seconds frames.
Song wasnt very good tho

>>68447111
Cool pasta
Here you go.
http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/does-a-10000-guitar-sound-better-than-a-300-one-20120723-22k7b.html

>>68447194
people in general do

>>68447194
oh shit is that rebeer or whatever from the Sounds Like X without busting bank series?

i think yes

>>68447297
>oh yeah? well here's a link to ...something or another, I guess...
lol, what an argument!

I'll bite though. If you took issue with anything I said then you'd be taking issue with the irrefutable science of physics, sorry. Which you're completely within your rights to do by the way, just understand you're openly admitting you're an idiot who denies the scientific facts by doing so. The wood used to construct an electric guitar will effect the overall sound of the instrument. Period.

>>68447429
Where's your study?
You're invoking physics, but here I've provided a peer reviewed study and you have not.

>>68447429
>effect

>>68447422
yeah it is. he's pretty cool and IMO a better guitar player than rob chapman. rob's just memorized a bunch of licks and he plays the same ones over and over. rabea actually sounds like he's playing music

>>68447429
>will effect

what school did you go to again?

post good songs to come up with epic licks to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apaJ3A56XbM

>>68447489
>>68447510
>>68447549
lol, relax boys. You dummys can start right here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_(mechanics)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_of_materials

It says a lot that pure unadulterated scientific facts would upset you that much.

But! If you have an actual argument that disproves what I stated I'd love to hear it.

>>68447645
>still no study

>>68447645
It's spelled dummies

>>68447652
>still no argument

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>>68447652
>>68447657
All jokes aside, I would never say that wood plays the most important part in the sound of an electric guitar, I'm just taking issue with anybody claiming it plays absolutely no part at all. It does, there's no possible way it couldn't. It's literally physically impossible for that to be the case.

You guys would be right if an electric guitars overall sound didn't have anything at all to do with how long it sustains notes or how well it stayed in tune.

Unfortunately though both those things are crucial to an electric guitars overall sound. Sorry.

Any of you guys play, alto or tenor, sax?

If so do you reckon it can be self taught if you already know a good amount of music theory?

>>68447659
>study done by Matthew Angove, an honours student at La Trobe University proves that wood makes no discernible difference to the sound of a guitar
>no argument

>>68447772
I think it's more about whether it's noticeable, I don't think it is and it seems Matthew Angove's study agrees
This would be even easier to test as it just requires guitars of different woods and shapes with the same strings and pickups.

>>68447772
String gauge and scale length are way more important to how well a guitar stays in tune than the wood it's made of.

>>68447805
>>68447838
>Matthew Angove
Post a link to the study then. So far all you've presented is opinion/hearsay rather than substantiated scientific fact.

The truth is this tonewood "denial" is a symptom of people on a budget afraid they're won't have access to a good guitar because of expensive "tonewood" they can't afford.

>>68447927
Nope. A quartersawn neck generally stays in tune better than a flatsawn one does, simply because of the structural difference. Noticeable? Absolutely. Never mind a multi-piece laminated neck like they use on an 8-string to keep it from warping under the string pressure. Your statement doesn't hold up to even slight scrutiny.

>>68447782
Yes.
Don't play it, but I know plenty of people who had no musical background who learned how to play(and to this day can't just tell me what key we're in).

I'm looking at this 07/08 mexican fender strat in a pawn shop, just wondering if /gg/ would give me some feedback on the issues I found with it, whether it's worth a buy, etc.

jumbo frets: never played anything like this before. feels like i have to actually think about how much to press down so i dont fudge the pitch of the note, especially on the low strings. currently on a squier cv where it's just press and go

SSH (pls no bully): tone sounds great, all the electronics work perfectly. really like the pos. 4 with the (split?) hb/middle pickup

tremolo: the bridge was cranked way up, as if somebody were engaging the tremolo arm with a lot of force. is it possible there are no springs in the back? is this something i should check/what do i do if there are no springs?

action: as a result of the buggered bridge, the action was a mile high, so i can't really be sure if the frets are totally even

neck: neck is curving inwards toward the strings a decent amount, but i dont think it's changing direction (somebody told me to watch out for roller coaster necks)

tuners: the tuners felt really loose (but smooth) compared to my squier. the guitar went out of tune after about 15 mins of playing, but the strings also looked a year old and when i picked up the guitar it was way way way below pitch, i had to tune it up from like d - b - e - f - a - d. would that have something to do with it?

other than that stuff, the guitar was a peach. triple ply pickguard, maple neck, white body (hendrix style, i guess). i really liked the feel of the satin maple neck compared to my ultra-gloss-laquer squier. felt very solid too, compared to a squier cv strat i was also considering (currently on a cv tele).

the shop has it listed for ~$400 CAD. other than a setup, what do you guys think? does it sound like a lemon or is it worth a buy?

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>>68447975
I want Roman to leave

>>68447975
I'm sorry but do you have even a single source to back any of what you said up? You're literally blowing hot air out of your ass.

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>>68448025
They want to cite Matthew Angoves "study" as proof wood has no effect on an electric guitars tone.

I'm just asking to see the study, shouldn't be that hard.

>>68447975
>you're too poor to appreciate my snake oil
So that's you're argument?
Did you ever question if maybe that new Les Paul with bloodwood binding, a peruvian walnut neck, and a Indian rosewood body is just a way to sell you something for far more than it's worth under the guise of tonewood?

>>68448010
>jumbo frets
Your issue will be solved with a decent set up

>tremolo
The gauge of strings are too large for how many springs are in the back. The bridge should float only about .5-.8cm above the guitar

>>68448073
Here's an article from La Trobe that talks about the study while it was being conducted.
It really depends on where he would have published his findings.
You can always enquire at the link.
http://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2012/article/does-$10,000-guitar-sound-better-than-$300

>>68448073
>wants to be spoonfed
I expected nothing less desu

>>68448065
>>68448082
Boys, the idea that the wood an electric guitar is made of has absolutely no effect on its overall sound is scientifically impossible. Here, I'm gonna link you to the irrefutable scientific facts once again:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_(mechanics)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_of_materials
You can refute the science or you can't. Pro tip: you can't.
>>68448126
>>68448151
lol, did he even publish his findings? Was it peer reviewed? Was the "study" found to be scientifically flawed?

You boys want to make the claim, now back it up.

>>68448025
what's up with the fat bird

>>68448247
There's a big difference between saying 'having some effect' and 'having noticeable effect' on the tone.
And you have consistently failed to show us that there is a noticeable effect; you've merely restated that it does without providing evidence.
YOU are the one making this claim, therefore YOU have the burden of proof. So YOU show us a study where the wood makes a noticeable difference in the tone of the guitar.
Until then, you're just spouting shit.

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New gib came in mail. It's literally perfect.

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>>68448306
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_(mechanics)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_of_materials

I'll post these links as many times as you need me to, fella. Maybe you should actually stop and read through them instead of further embarrassing yourself?

What you're describing is literally physically impossible, any effect on tone is an effect on tone. "Noticeable" is a subjective term you've now decided to use because you can't actually defend your position. A deaf person wouldn't "notice" any differences for example, that doesn't prove there's no effect at all. All that proves is that the person is deaf.

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>>68448448
>look mom, I posted it again!
baka senpai desu

>>68447782
Yeah sure. Woodwinds are pretty self explanatory once you figure how to blow on the reed the right way to make noise. It's not like brass, on the other hand, which is more difficult in terms of getting the thing to make the sounds you want when you want to make them and benefits from a teacher at least for the first year.

I have played clarinet and trombone in the past.

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>>68448486
lol

This is what capitulation looks like, /gg/.

There's no other option once you've run out of legitimate arguments.

So! To recap: the wood an electric guitar is made of will have an effect on its overall tone so Tonewoods™ are real!!

Yay!

>>68448573
You're welcome to show us your study.
I was able to prove a study exists that suggests the opposite of what you're peddling.
So show us a study you have in your favour.

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>>68448760

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>>68448249
birds are always /gg/ related

>>68448447
Looks like a greasy piece of burnt wood.

>>68447194
everyone except black francis

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>>68445931
>Mfw he's playing a half hour away from me tonight but I'm fucked with work