Face it,

>>68379536
got em

>>68379536
0/10

Millennials get less attention from their parents than ever, it would seem.

>>68379536
I like Nirvana and Pearl Jam.

Soundgarden is better anyway.

>>68379549
I highly doubt you were born before the late 70's you edgy faggot.

>Who relates to this beyond middle school?
But you listen to Big Black despite still being a virgin?

>>68379568
Can you explain the appeal? I dont get how everyone in this genre gets a pass on copying the same sound for every single track.

>>68379574
Why don't you make love to your doubts then you attention seeking saddact

>>68379588
if you think every track had the same sound then idk listen more I guess

You sound like a Christian soccer mom that thinks all rap and metal sounds the same because it's not Britney Spears or some shit

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>>68379590
kek hes triggered

>>68379625
Try again m8. Im listening to full of hell and merzbow rn.

>>68379590
>saddact
Hello, my fellow Redditor! I will surely be upvoting this!

>>68379633
>>68379652

>[PROJECTING INTENSIFIES]

>>68379588
I could say the same about rap and hip hop.

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>>68379686

>>68379536
>Its almost as bad as pearl jam
weak b8
PJ > Nirvana

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>>68379536

>>68379757
>PJ > Nirvana
"no"

>>68379536
>>68379568
>>68379757
How can one genre be so devoid of talent?

>>68379588
Nirvana and Soundgarden are pretty different m8

It's like saying The Beatles and Led Zeppelin sound the same.

>>68379757
nirvana is actually good
pearl jam isn't (or at least ten isn't)

Alice in chains is better than everything mentioned in thread so far

>>68379568
Superunknown was good, everything else fell flat
>>68379578
got em
>>68379588
They don't?
>>68379892
Agreed. Pearl Jam sounds nice but they're far from great.

>>68379922
>>68379906
>>68379882
>>68379835
>>68379757
Theyre both trash. They sound EXACTLY the same. They sound like nickelback and creed and seether

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>>68379835
>>68379892
>>68379922
>>68379982
heh

>>68379652
for a second I thought 'saddact' was a real word, then i looked it up

>http://www.urbandictionary.com/tags.php?tag=saddact

what a lame word, and i would know.

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Funny how all these edgelords have yet to articulate why they actually enjoy this shit music

Grunge is shit
Rap is shit
Vaporwave is shit
Metal is shit
Pop punk is shit
Ska punk is shit

They're all shit

>>68379982
>comparing two different genres

>>68380063
Gtfo
>>68380075
Its not a genre. Its shit

>>68380055
Funny how most people who speak so lowly of bands like Nirvana simply say "it's shit" and move on rather than articulate why they believe it's shit.

>>68380063
This

>>68379982
>Soundgarden
>Nickelback

Kill yourself.

>>68380132
>>68380152
>the same terrible riffs
>uninspired vocal delivery
>lack of any personality or presence
>tired and edgy lyrics that come off ridiculously shallow because of the delivery

>>68379536
Country is the only objectively good music.

>>68380132
>bands like nirvana
>nirvana
>band
>like
none of those are true

>>68379982
This is just wrong and I dont even like Nirvana/PJ/Soundgarden

How do songs like "Dumb" and "Evenflow" sound "exactly the same"? They are very different.

I mean certainly a lot of post-grunge bands copied Pearl Jam's sound and Vedder's singing style but beyond that, idk.

>>68380215
She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy is literally a masterpiece

>>68380204
>the same terrible riffs
Show me two riffs that are exactly the same.
>uninspired vocal delivery
Listen to In Utero.
>lack of any personality or presence
Listen to In Utero.
>tired and edgy lyrics that come off ridiculously shallow because of the delivery
Fucking listen to In Utero.

>>68380204
thats like your opinion man

>>68379536
I stoped listening cause they had children naked as a special edition cover for nevermind

>>68380250
https://youtu.be/qnkuBUAwfe0

Tell me that doesnt sound exactly like this.

https://youtu.be/qM0zINtulhM


https://youtu.be/pkcJEvMcnEg


Im keking so hard at the nirvana video

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>>68380288
Think you forgot the pic

>>68380288
Thats facts bro. Face em.

>>68380300
I didnt say every song is completey unique

But your argument implies that all "grunge" or "post grunge" sounds exactly the same, which is simply not true.

I mean The Beatles had plenty of songs that sounded like the music of their contemporaries, but to say it was all exactly the same would be silly.

>>68379536
>can't appreciate good pop songs
>having to relate to a song to enjoy it
maybe when you get out of your edgy post-nirvana phase you can actually enjoy music

>>68380335
Thank you.

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>>68379642
>Im listening to full of hell and merzbow rn

>>68380354
I never got into them. Im simply asking for why people like it. Idk why everyone is so mad.
>>68380335
What are grunge bands that sound more passionate or have more interesting instrumentation? It seems to me that grunge is sludge metal but not nearly as hard.

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>>68380380

>>68380262
>The Highwayman
>Every willie album
>every haggard album
The number of legendary country artists is higher than any other genre.

>>68380388
>Im simply asking for why people like it.
>idk why everyone is so mad

You literaly started the thread by saying its shit and only middle schoolers relate to it. Probably not the best way to "simply ask" something

>What are grunge bands that sound more passionate

I think Cobains vocal performance on Unplugged was pretty damn passionate. It's the only album of theirs that I really listen to anymore.

>interesting instrumentation

I dont really think this is a fair way of going at it. It's pretty much always going to be guitar/bass/drums, but there are plenty of genres that are like that.

>>68380487
Eh i cant stand cobain. Guess its just not for me.

>>68380388
>i never got into them
so you've never listened to nirvana and you just think they suck for no reason?

>>68380534
No, i listened to them and thought they were shit so i never did it again

>>68380623
see >>68380354

>>68380663
>pop
>grunge
Pick one

>>68380663
Kurt looks like he smells like people who use vinegar and water as a cleaning solution

>>68380702
>thinking pop means taylor swift and justin bieber
see >>68380354
>>68380767
nice argument

>>68380800
Pretty strong projecting going on, anon. I dont listen to taylor swift. Grunge is not a pop genre though and you know it. The whole scene is anti pop

>>68380897
i said your definition of pop is limited to radio pop acts like taylor swift etc not that you listened to her, but unsurprisingly you're too retarded to understand.

>>68380971
>nirvana
>not radio pop
Are you even trying, anon? All the shit grunge bands are heavily researched and test grouped before release.

Soundgarden = Horrendous Led Zeppelin worship

Alice in Chains = Good Black Sabbath worship

Pearl Jam = Just shit arena rock, I never got this band on any level

Nirvana = God tier pop rock + some decent noise rock/punk/borderline sludge/whatever moments

I still think Nirvana are overrated, but Bleach is legitimately good (if one-dimensional) and Nevermind and In Utero are stacked with memorable pop songs that stand up 20-25 years later. It's meant to be visceral, I don't think anyone really "relates" to it, not least Kurt who essentially said the lyrics are bullshit

Mudhoney, Babes in Toyland and Screaming Trees are better than all these by the way

>>68381062
you think nirvana is mainstream pop?

>>68381083
>’bleach is legitimately good'

i think you mean 'bleach sounds like a shitty melvins album'

>>68381083
>Bleach is legitimately good
>Nevermind and In Utero are stacked with memorable pop songs
please, stop breathing

>>68381083
Why make lyrics then? Why not just be totally instrumental?

>>68381099
they are.

>>68381062
>hurr durr I only ever heard two Nirvana's songs and they're both from Nevermind

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>>68381133
You are like a little baby.
Watch this.

>>68381099
It is/was. I think when you're ubiquitous enough that everyone can instantly recognize a number of your songs you count as mainstream pop.

>>68381114
What's wrong with Bleach? And what did Nevermind and In Utero not achieve that a pop album is supposed to?

>>68381118
Because there is a sonic element to vocals, they're not just words read out neutrally

>>68381112
It sounds like a good Melvins album. It's better than at least half of their discography (with the exception of Senile Animal they've been shit since the turn of the century).

>>68381157
>It's better than at least half of their discography
See >>68381152

>>68381174
What does that have to do with Bleach being better than half of the Melvins' discography?

>>68381186
Didn't realize you were referring to the Melvins' discography specifically. Even still it's a lot shittier. Melvins basically just learned from Bleach's mistakes. (Most of their discography came out after 1989.)

Bleach wasn't an unenjoyable experience, but after Blew and Floyd the Barber the sound just sort of just becomes bland and repetitive. To me there's no high points on the album after the first two tracks.

>>68381133
>>68381157
so every band/artist that isn't signed to a label is indie then. look up the definition for colloquialism you autist.

>>68381157
But kurts vocals are flat as fuck and add nothing.

>>68381152
You have 0 solid rebuttals about your man kurt. Keep sucking his shotgun u peon.

>>68381303
>>68381284
>(you)

>>68381253
>Most of their discography came out after 1989
And everything since 2000 (with the exception of maybe two or three albums) has been mediocre to bad.

>To me there's no high points on the album after the first two tracks.
Swap Meet through to Sifting. I agree that it's a very repetitive album. Still good, though

>>68381266
>so every band/artist that isn't signed to a label is indie then.
Yes every artist who is independent is independent. They may not, however, be indie rock or indie pop artists, and I specifically said that Nirvana made a lot of pop rock songs. That's undeniable.

>>68381284
>But kurts vocals are flat as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsJ_jzPmMVw

>and add nothing.
Vocal melodies are a huge part of most of their biggest songs. Extremely catchy, even if the lyrics don't mean anything much

>>68380283
>>68380204
/thread

jesus christ it's like you fags listen to Smells Like Teen Spirit and assume that it defines the band. In Utero is by far their best work and has plenty of personality. Steve Albini's production makes for such an organic and raw sound.

Just because a band is popular and has casual wannabe listeners doesn't mean they're incapable of uninspired work. ffs

>>68381340
Hahahaa nice meme arrows anon :^)
>>68381455
They are nasally and annoying to me. Like i said, why have lyrics. Why not just sing sounds.

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>>68379536
Though Nirvana took inspiration from other genres and bands, I'd still think Nirvana could only exist in the time they had.

I honestly can't imagine Kurt continuing grunge well into the 2000's or even trying other genres.

Maybe Kurt would've just retired from it all, but I think Nirvana is definitely a product of the late 80s, early 90s, and that it can really only be it's most authentic during those years.

Think of like 50's pop music and how it contrasts with today. Unless it's a tribute band you don't see the next "Beach Boys" hit the stage because it's just not for this time period.

>>68381521
Guess ill check out in utero

>>68381546
Damn, anon. I think you said it perfectly. This is what I have been trying to out into words. It just doesnt sound right out of context.

>>68381547
Though I'd say Bleach is their darkest album, In Utero is their most emotional.

I find myself thinking more about the macabre and sadness with In Utero, while with Bleach I wanna go burn down a school and kill my parents.

>>68381561
Yea it's not perfect but I'm glad the idea got across, maybe someone can tweak it to make it more accessible

>>68381535
>why have lyrics. Why not just sing sounds.
Generally the sounds humans like to make and sing along to are "words". He isn't literally singing jibberish, it's just words that he thinks sound good together rather than words that have a combined deeper meaning. It is a big jump from words that sound good together to just sounds

I get that we're in a Nirvana thread, but if you think any band whose lyrics aren't significantly meaningful or relatable should be instrumental, that covers a large chunk of rock music, and a vast majority of the noise rock bands Kurt was influenced by.

>>68381547
>>68381521

In Utero has several things going for it that make it superior to the more successful Nevermind.

>Sound design taking a step back from a "overmastered" sound
>more songs with personality and fewer with commercial appeal
>the fact that Kurt killed himself just months after its release so you know the fucked up themes and lyrics come from a honest place

Mostly the sound design though. The whole album sounds like some pissed off studio performance

>>68381535
>why not just sing sounds
listen to Tourette's

>>68381535
words are sounds

>>68381661
What album has the most noise elements

>>68381083
>God tier pop rock
You have to be older than 18 to post here kiddo

>>68379590
>attention seeking
friendly reminder that you're talking to an anonymous person

>>68381760
Compelling argument

>>68380132
>Funny how people who speak so lowly of bands i like....
How mad are kurt fags now????? Nirvana ain´t bad but it is way overrated. AiC and soundgarden shit all over them.

>>68381778
Do i really have to explain why those are plain wrong???
> Pop Rock
Yes, they were popular, and they were rock, but they weren´t pop rock. They had their own thing which was polished to be mainstream friendlier in Nevermind and that shit was a massive unexpected hit. Using your standard, Metallica and the black album would be pop rock too (or pop metal). It wasnt like creed or nickelback which were carefully manufacturated and merchandized.
>God tier
eh... no... just no...

>>68379697
He's not wrong

>>68381934
He is.
>>68381757
Which nirvana album has the most Noise/harsh elements

>>68381873
>Using your standard, Metallica and the black album would be pop rock too (or pop metal)
What standard? It's pop because of the nature of the music, not its popularity. Half of Nevermind is short, catchy, verse-chorus-verse songs with pop melodies, and the sonic qualities of rock, or "pop rock." You are the only person to bring popularity into this.

>eh... no... just no...
Name 10 better pop rock bands. And if you can do that name just two or three that were better in the last 25 years.

>>68382126
Aside from the obvious countless classic ones (the beatles et al) ill give you from 25 years ago:
Kings of Leon, The killers, Oasis, Green Day...

They are really worse than Nirvana in general, but so much better than them at doing POP ROCK.

>>68379536
>In Utero
>Nevermind
>Unplugged
>Kurt Cobain's Songwriting
>Innovative Guitar Riffs
>Great Vocals
>Great Drumming
>Great Production
>Some Of The Best Bass Lines Ever

Hmmm I wonder why anyone would like this band.

>>68382348
>so much better than them at doing POP ROCK.
None of those bands have better pop rock songs than Come as You Are or Smells Like Teen Spirit, besides maybe Oasis.

>>68382522
The Killers might have some. Their chord voicings are pretty damn fresh. Their early singles are fantastic.

>>68382450
>innovative guitar riffs
Kurt's chord changes, despite being based on powerchords for most of his stuff, were damn unique, but I wouldn't call them innovative. Why do you think this?

The reason they get shit on is because he wrote pop songs with catchy hooks. That's literally it. You could write the best music in the world but if it has a verse and a chorus it's shit unless you're the Beatles.

>>68382450
>didn't post their best album

>>68382450
I like nirvana but
Nirvana bass lines aren´t particular memorable. Only one i can think of are Sliver and Dive which are from a b sides album.
Unplugged was kinda meh. (>Playing power chords in acoustic guitars. Having three acoustic guitars playing the same power chords).
Drums ok but nothing outstanding really, they just serve the songs really well.
Guitar Riffs weren´t that innovative at all.

The biggest thing they had for them was Kurt`s vocals and emotion he could express with them and catchy melodies/riffs in their songs. Lyric wise the weren´t that great, sounded good but were meaningless and sometimes a little wanky (not really wanky as kurt stated himself they were meaningless but teenagers tend to wank to them like if they were some serious shit) .

They were good but no close to what teenagers who didn´t really grew up listening to them but saw the VH1 behind the story and fell for the merchandized meme to think is like the best ever of the best ever. (i was one of those but then i turned 17).

>>68381455
you were referring to me saying mainstream/radio pop, you referred to nirvana as grunge, radio pop and now they're pop rock? stop backtracking you're clearly confused in your definitions and go look up the definition of colloquialism.

>>68382613
Syd barret's where way way more unique and done more than 20 years before nirvana. Nirvana proggressions werent that different to what other bands where starting to do by that time.

>>68382683
Also lovebuzz bass line is great

>>68382697
Nope. This >>68381083 was my original post. Maybe you got mixed up with someone else

>>68382683
>>68382745
The bass line in Lounge Act is great

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>it's another nirvana hate thread
We get it, you guys like to hate Nirvana. It's okay if you don't like it, just stfu about it already

>>68382697
Oh, you mean this >>68381099 post. Yes, they were clearly mainstream around the time of Nevermind and In Utero, and made a lot of pop rock.

Mainstream pop doesn't have a definition besides being...mainstream pop. Also, I never used the term "Grunge," it was always a useless term given that the big four sounded nothing alike for the most part.

>>68382827
Great now go back to make your metal is for kids thread

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>>68379574

>>68382623
The beatles are shit

>>68382713
Not really. You can't instantly recognize Kurt's style of changes. Stuff like Lithium and In Bloom is pretty unique.

>>68382683
>Lounge Act
>Serve the Servants
>The chorus of Rape Me
All these basslines are absolute god-tier you coolwhip

>>68383534
Kek I meant to say you CAN recognize his changes. Pls 4give me

>>68383328
nice

>>68382713
>only one person can be unique

>>68380063
>lumping together all rap and metal like that
literally kill yourself

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>>68383577
Checked

this is the only decent nirvana song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoySSBwQVso

honestly they are shit

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>>68383655
Checkem'

>>68383683
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>>68383705
>>68383705

>>68382827

Seriously though why is this shitty thread made every week?

>>68383678
What's decent about it?

>>68382683
>I have a poor musical memory
>thus the band isn't memorable
Ugh

>>68383824
/mu/ has created an environment where everyone's afraid of being a pleb so instead of posting about music they actually like they just make posts about how bad popular stuff is. it's just safer.

>>68383907
Or the band is getting more and more stale with each passing year, yet you seem to cling on like someone afraid to let their comatose relative slip away.

>>68384285
>Or the band is getting more and more stale with each passing year
Not possible. The music simply exists as a tangible thing, it doesn't change. It's actually YOU who are changing

>>68379568
AiC > Nirvana > Soundgarden > PJ

But all are good on their own merits.

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>>68381546
I really strongly disagree with you on that.

If, say, Nirvana had already existed and so musical history leading up to today has remained the same, and Kurt Cobain was born today, he wouldnt grow up to write the same kind of music as he did when he grew up in the 70s and 80s.

He'd be growing up in a different world, with different definitions of mainstream music and underground music. So the songs would reflect.

Nirvana's music was mainly that, reactionary to the mainstream music of the day, and its why there hasnt been such a dramatic "before/after" turn in popular music since Nirvana.

Sure, Nirvana was a "perfect storm" kind of thing in that they came at exactly the right time with exactly the right kind of music that produced a strong reaction from the youth at the time.

But Nirvana played what we call "grunge" because, at the time, that kind of music best represented the kind of image they were trying to represent to the world, their opinions on the world and how they fit in.

Its a different world now, so that image would have been different.

>>68384285
that actually doesn't contradict anything I said. did you respond to the wrong comment?

>>68383895
My musical memory is pretty good. I play guitar and sing profesionally (my only source of income actually and im doing ok). The basslines arent just that good m8. Seeing live footage youll find out Novoselik is actually pretty sloppy

>>68384779
>I play guitar and sing profesionally (my only source of income actually and im doing ok)
Not an argument

>>68384820
Yes it fucking is. Learning by ear, practicing and playing shitload of songs is something you learn to do, and as anything you get better the more you do it. Nirvana bass lines ain`t something commonly praised even by the dead fag cocksuckers

>>68384888
No it's not. If you want to argue that Nirvana basslines are not memorable then argue why they are not. Your background is not an argument

this is proof that Nirvana is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOZKz_sPM6U
also just the entire unplugged performance

>this thread
Why are buttrock fans so retarded?

>>68384639
Nirvana was more of a cover band and a rip off band, of course with a unique element to it.

>Nirvana's music was mainly that, reactionary to the mainstream music of the day, and its why there hasnt been such a dramatic "before/after" turn in popular music since Nirvana.

I diagree, kurt openly embraced the music of his time and tried to imitate it

The things that I don't like a the degradation of rock music and guitar playing. Promoting homosexuality and looking like a bum is not good for society as a whole and he should have thought about that.

>>68385223
damn...

>>68385202
Those are cover songs though

>>68384779
>I play guitar and sing profesionally
What a coincidemce, me too! Yet I can clearly remember every Nirvana bassline.

You must be near starving then if you are a musician who has no recall abilities. Don't you learn by ear?
>>68384888
>Learning by ear, practicing and playing shitload of songs is something you learn to do
If you can't remember what you are learning, perhaps you should not use it as your chief argument

>>68385296
I meant that it's proof they have talent

Kurt was a pretentious twat

>>68385223
>Nirvana is buttrock
lel

>>68385337
>pretentious
people throw around that word all the time without explaining what they mean by it or what the person did that constitutes them being pretentious

so, in what way is he pretentious?

>>68385393
read his fucking journal

>>68385235
>of course with a unique element to it.
Then it's not a rip off, is it?

Nice try though
>>68385409
What's pretentious about it?

>>68385417
>Then it's not a rip off, is it?
>Nice try though

Lmao fucking pretentious little boy. Every band haw a unique element to them. If you cover beatles song in your on style it doesn't mean hit it still the beatles. If you make a career off covering Beatles or led zeppelin songs its not a good one. Kurt lifted a lot of songs going back to bleach.

>>68385466
>Every band haw a unique element to them
Name them.
>If you make a career off covering Beatles or led zeppelin songs its not a good one
What album are their Beatles and Led Zep covers on?

>>68385466
>Kurt lifted a lot of songs going back to bleach.
IIRC they had one cover in three studio albums

>>68385504
sifting, love buzz, molly lips, anyreusem, come as you are, scentless apprentice, turn around, lead belly, bowie, negative creep

>>68385726
those are either not covers or not on studio albums, besides the one that I was talking about

>>68385497
>Name them.
Why don't you just go listen to the music yourself

>What album are their Beatles and Led Zep covers on?

Not any studio album but I used that to say you can cover bands but that doen't make you a good band if you do that

>>68385901
>sifting
ripped off

>love buzz
ripped off

>come a you are
ripped off

>scentless
grohls music

Also Incesticide >>68381152 more covers

>>68386039
>grohls music
How exactly do you "lift" music from someone in your own band credited as a songwriter?

>>68386089
> Kurt insisted these percentages be shifted to give him the bulk of the revenue - he proposed a 75/25 split on the music, with him getting 100 percent of the lyrics

That is 25 percent to be split between grohl and chris

>>68386212
This band sucks man just face it

>>68386212
I mean on that song he's credited as a songwriter

Kurt still wrote over 75% of the songs

>>68379536
>Who relates to this beyond middle school?

Why do you put so much emphasis not only on lyrics but on needing to relate to the lyrics? Just enjoy the music you little bitch.

Also most of their lyrics pre-In Utero are just nonsense and In Utero itself is Cobain being introspective so you're still not meant to relate to it.

Idiot

>>68387037
People like to be able to pout and cry while listening to music and then go "THIS SONG IS ABOUT MEEEE!" and show all their 2 friends and post it on their facebook.

Can't really do that with Nirvana unless your parents were divorced or you married a prostitute.

>>68386794
true and I did say that the only problem I had with nirvana was the agenda they were pushing of homosexual trashness, suicide. Also I heard very ape was taken from some brazillian band, can't confirm though.

>>68387395
>homosexual trashness
what do you mean by this?

>>68379536
>they suck
>suck used in present form
>not past

They all are fucking dead you goddamn minor!

>>68387468
The LGBT/feminist outlook cobain pushed and liked. Grunge fashion is really homosexual in nature. I think cobain should actually be considered a gay icon

>>68387966
>>>/pol/

>>68385849
>Why don't you just go listen to the music yourself
It's your argument, you need to prove it
>Not any studio album but I used that to say you can cover bands but that doen't make you a good band if you do tbat
Luckily their are good because of their own music! We are in agreement.

>>68386039
Ripped off how?

>>68387995
Everything I said is fact though?

>>68388087
>Luckily their are good because of their own music
The biggest song they ever had was smells like teen spirit. when writing this song he said he as trying to rip off the pixies and create the biggest pop song ever. He was a good song writer but he as not "punk" as many believe him to be

>>68385849
>>68385952
Nice double post but see >>68388087

>>68379536
People like them because they suck if that makes any sense

>>68388254
Not really. When judged over time, then if people still like them, it's because they don't suck.

>>68379642
Like, at the same time?

>>68381083
>Compares Alice in Chans to Black Sabbath
Glad to see that I'm not the only one who hears this. I still think Dirt is their personal tribute to Paranoid.

>>68381661
Sorry but In Utero sounds like Nevermind part two and this is coming from a life long Nirvana fan that has almost everything they ever put out.

>>68382745
If you think the bass line in Love Buzz is good perhaps you should check out the song Three Girl Rhumba by Wire.

>>68388472
>In Utero is Nevermind part 2
Conpletely different production, mood aesthetic and way noisier, what the fuck are you on about?

>>68388472
Oh definitely, especially their more sludgy stuff. My grandpa asked if it was a Sabbath tribute band once.

>>68388206
>when writing this song he said he as trying to rip off the pixies
Oh what Pixies song?
>not "punk" as many believe him to be
Not relevant

>>68388892
Apparently every band that uses quiet/loud dynamics is ripping off the Pixies. I'm pretty sure that remark is tongue in cheek. Plus, Kurt always wanted to make it big, he never hid that. He did what he wanted, punk or not.

>>68388892
>>68388948
>Francis focused on the band's contribution to rock music. "Being original, influencing Nirvana so they could rip a song. I'll admit it - if Kurt Cobain fessed up to it, f--k it, I'll agree with it, you ripped us off."

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/pixies_claim_kurt_cobain_ripped_them_off_and_confessed_it.html

>I was trying to write the ultimate pop song. I was basically trying to rip off the Pixies. I have to admit it. When I heard the Pixies for the first time, I connected with that band so heavily that I should have been in that band—or at least a Pixies cover band. We used their sense of dynamics, being soft and quiet and then loud and hard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smells_Like_Teen_Spirit

>>68389095
I'm not denying Kurt was influenced by the Pixies, you absolute fUUUUCK

>he never liked Pearl Jam
What's that guy's story

>>68387966
>Grunge fashion is really homosexual in nature
I think you're confusing it with glam metal fashion. Ironically enough glam metal was more masculine in terms of lyrics, but grunge was more masculine in terms of sound and appearance while typically having much less "macho" lyrics.

>>68387966
>boots
>shitty torn jeans
>flannel
>gay
Are you from the Berenstein reality?

>>68387966
Nigga grunge rockers wore by far the least gay outfits of any rockers prior to them. Just compare them to the 80s.

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>>68389563
>>68389470
>>68389310
Dude just research grunge fashion, it came from seattle homosexual prostitutes. something kurt once aid he had a interest in being

I am not a homophone but its the truth

>>68389668
It came from living in the rust belt and being poor you tremendous smegma sucker. You've gotta be baiting.

People still dress like that where I live, they have since the industrial sector started dying. Try leaving your neighborhood once in a while.

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>>68389722
>it came from being poor meme

No

>>68389760
Yes it did. If not poor, cheap.
Aberdeen/Seattle/most of the PNW are logging towns, so the lumberjacky stuff is really easy to find in thrift stores. I'm not talking about the Marc Jacobs shit that immediately appeared. Again, try leaving your neighborhood occasionally.

>>68388298
Collab album

>>68389810
Lots of American cities are poor. You are just sheltered and misinformed.

>>68388546
Production notwithstanding I stand by my statement. I mean geez Rape Me is just Smells Like Teen Spirit with different lyrics and an actual middle eight. It's Nevermind part two. Sorry if you disagree.

>>68389846
Uh.
What's your point, here? Pretty much any northern state has the same clothing when it comes to utility. I live in a town full of factories, you go to the thrift store or see homeless folks, a lot of them are wearing surplus factory blue. You go to a lumber town, you'll see a lot of surplus woodsy clothing.
How is this hard to understand? You haven't even made a counterpoint, you just keep saying 'Ur wrong it's teh gays'

>>68389095
>"Being original, influencing Nirvana so they could rip a song. I'll admit it - if Kurt Cobain fessed up to it, f--k it, I'll agree with it, you ripped us off."
Ooops you didn't answer which song. Try again?
>>68388948
Someone should tell Francis he ripped it off from The Turtles himself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9EKIcAqXk

>>68390308
How old are you again?

>Androgyny, while not new in lesbian culture, has been gaining momentum since the 80s punk scene through youth subcultures such as grunge, riot grrrl, emo, and most recently hipster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_culture

>>68389881
>. I mean geez Rape Me is just Smells Like Teen Spirit
How so? They are different chord sequences and a different melody

>>68390384
>neonazis wear boots
>goths wear boots
>therefore goths are promoting nazism
Not the guy you're replying to, but you're an idiot.
It got popular with the LGBT crowd because of grunge etc, not the other way around.

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>>68390456
>implying if you ear boots you are grunge

Poser shit, you can ear a lot of different shoes and still be grunge but not even the point

>It got popular with the LGBT crowd because of grunge

wrong. Did you read >>68390358 it ha been accumulating since the 80s punk scene. Dressing grunge was done by homosexual prostitutes before little teens buying nirvana albums

>>68390524
Man, you are really stuck on this gay thing, aren't you?
Did your dad suck Cobain's dick or something?
The poor and the indigent were dressing that way out of necessity before punk was even a thing.

Way to completely miss the point about boots, BTW.

>>68390524
Also, where the fuck do you think that these gay folks got their clothing? If they're hooking in the PNW they definitely aren't buying it new.

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>>68390785
>>68390764
You guys are too textbook on how to be grunge

Kurt Donald calls shotgun!

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>>68379536
There will never be another Nirvana or a Kurt Cobain. A lot of people like them even today and you making threads like this isn't going to change anything.

Deep down you know he's GOAT.

>>68391292
True there will never be another kurt, but there will never be another me either.

GOAT? Maybe if you think so, it is all subjective.