Dadrock depression thread

>>68374406
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDZgl7H-coQ
I was like "this isn't that bad" until Brian came in. Damn...

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY2rTqD3dhk
Not terrible, but the production is bad. They released a live album a few years ago performing O&O and it's actually decent.

>>68374473
Colin looks and sounds extremely constipated.

That's why I respect Bowie for not touring into his later years. Obviously he stopped touring at first for health reasons but I think he realized it's better to go out on top. He made two great last records after retiring from touring too.

>inb4 Chuck Berry

>>First performance posted is from 1987. Okay.

This was what a slightly recent and truly godawful performance from an old legend looks like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxixIbONuCQ

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>>68374406
>every stephen stills performance after 1972
:(

The Brian Wilson - Al Jardine performance in the OP is actually pretty damn good. Especially considering all of Brian's mental problems and advanced age.

>>68374406
that George Harrison performance was solid as hell tho

>>68374831
Stephen Stills is a douche. He performed at my dad's college in the mid-70s and he told some dude in the audience to shut the fuck up.

>>68375013
probably justified

>>68374920
Yeah so is the George Harrison performance, I dont know what videos OP was watching.

Ian Anderson has sounded like complete shit since about 1983.

>>68374816
This is sad, you know everyone in the audience is just there so they can say they saw a legend.

According to the comments his son pressures him into these shows out of greed, I wonder if there's any truth to that

>>68375074
I said I know there's worse, just picked out videos from the top of my head. Was hoping you people could find something better.
>>68375095
There's always truth to that.

>>68375095
>>68374816
Chuck Berry has quit now--he hasn't performed since 2014. His family tried one last tour to squeeze $$$ out of his carcass, but it got to the point where he physically could not get up on stage anymore.

>>68375013
he was constantly drunk and fucked up on pills and shit pretty much starting after judy collins left him for stacy keach

>>68375158
>>68375013
Go read Christgau's Stephen Stills reviews. He completely dismembers him.

>>68374406
god I HATE the 80's

https://youtu.be/XZdiaFXW2U8

hate this thread idea, goodnight

>>68374406
Clapton had it well into the early 00's my dude.

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The whole thing is depressingly hilarious, but 2:06 is the best/worst part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WTHhIqWewE

oh god i am so terrified of getting old

You're hard pressed to find much of anyone whose voice sounds worse than Brian Wilson.

>>68375240
You're not singing at the top of your lungs over loud as fuck guitars and drums every night for 30-40 years on top of a massive booze and drug intake.

>>68375240
i agree dude i would rather die than be 80+

>25 replies
>no Paul Stanley
If you didn't see any recent Kiss concert footage, don't.

>>68375201
Purpose is to feel sad. That being said, I don't think anything less of them or their work.
>>68375195
Except Meat Loaf, he was always pretty shit... just getting more sad-shit.
>>68375210
Eric is fine. George makes me imagine him in an old nightclub with 7 people watching.
>>68375231
What is this?

>>68375265
true, but anyone pursuing music has got to worry that what they're doing is going to be seen as lame and embarrassing in a matter of time.

Bruce Dickinson sounds awfully weak and hoarse on high notes now.

James Hetfield has been shit since the 90s.

>>68375253
Bobby Kimball from Toto has aged Godawfully, which is especially sad considering how fucking powerful his voice was up until the early '90s. I think he's borderline-dear as well now, which obviously doesn't help things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSvWSYgSM-g

>>68375404
he kind of reminds me of david liebe hart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWqimMpbTyU

I think Paul Stanley really is one of the worst of all. He's gotten to the point now where he sounds incoherent when he's just speaking in a normal voice.

>>68375240
>>68375270
You just live with dignity and act your age. I think at such an age its best to retreat a bit and become fairly reclusive. I think that when your mind and body fails its time to end your life, there is no point in seeing your defining features crumble to the point when they no longer exist. I think there'd be nothing worse than getting dementia. Being an 80 year old with full cognitive ability that is able to go for countryside walks wouldn't be bad

>>68375270
I'd prefer to just end it all at 70.

>>68375472
why wait, i'd prefer to end it all now

>>68375472
i can see that but i feel like you can keep yourself in good enough shape to enjoy your 70s

>>68375499
Better not to take that risk at all.

>>68375499
This, my Gran is 78 and she's still an active hiker and gardener. Cognitively she reads an absurd amount of books and is a hell of a lot more intelligent than me. Assuming you're in good health the 70s can be great

>>68375472
It's really after 75 when people seriously deteriorate. By 85, you have a nearly 50% chance of dementia. Almost 90% of people at 90 have one or more chronic ailments.

>>68375565
your grandma sounds sweet

>>68375585
things will hopefully be pretty different by the time we all get to that age, too. 120 will be the new 75.

>>68375499
Yeah I think of age cycles as
>0-2 baby
>2-4 toddler
>4-8 little kid
>8-11 kid
>12-14 tween
>15-18 teen
>19-21 "adult"
>21-25 young adult
>25-29 best age through looks/health
>30-40 still decent
>40-55 midlife crisis
>55-60 pretty old
>60-78 retirement/old but can still live normally
>79-88 really old
>89+ barely alive
Pick and choose basically. Then again when you're that old things won't matter anyway.

>>68375615
They won't. Trust me on that.

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>>68375688
why not

>>68375443
this. if that means cutting older works they can't do anymore or doing new stuff which is more comfortable for them then that is what they should do. even justin bieber has his older songs tuned down so that he can sing them properly

there's also the idea of finding new paths as an artist. I know it might not mean very much in the realm of rock/pop music but it always strikes me as odd when someone in their 60s is doing something "young" and poppy. the song would've never originally been a hit like that. at least do it differently. act your age

it's just sad to see an old man croaking over an intricate arrangement and it's all a painful mess. johnny cash's last album is dignified and still utilizes his voice properly. I know it was done with the good judgement of rick rubin but it still shows that it can be done

>>68375926
>this. if that means cutting older works they can't do anymore or doing new stuff which is more comfortable for them then that is what they should do.

billy corgan did this and it had the opposite effect. people call him a washed up hack because he won't play his old songs live anymore. he basically has the exact right idea and people shit on him for it.

>>68375926
Country, jazz, and classical are the only genres that have let artists age with dignity. It sucks too because if you do hip-hop, rock, or pop you are basically non-existent after your peak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR92AAMKFWo

>>68375966
Maybe his new songs just suck. If they were good, people would accept them. I mean, Leonard Cohen has continued making good albums as a geriatric so age alone is not an excuse for suckage.

>>68375966
that's why he shouldn't have made angsty music for teenagers to begin with. I don't say that disparagingly. if you immediately go for the senior audience you're free to grow as an artist without people complaining
>>68375974
any genre in which ideas of youth, beauty, vitality and sex appeal is important is one that will eventually find a replacement when you're getting too old to play the part

>>68375974
I wonder how well the big 90s electronic artists will hold it together when they get around the age that 60s-70s artists are now. I would imagine it's a lot less physically demanding than rock music. Aphex Twin and Autechre are both nearly 30 years into their careers and are just as consistent as they were 20 years ago, if not better.

>>68375926
>there's also the idea of finding new paths as an artist. I know it might not mean very much in the realm of rock/pop music but it always strikes me as odd when someone in their 60s is doing something "young" and poppy. the song would've never originally been a hit like that. at least do it differently. act your age
It's called money. The Rolling Stones _could_ embark on new artistic directions, they _could_ do something tasteful and age-appropriate, or they could play Brown Sugar and Satisfaction for the 4986th time and make $$$ doing it.

>>68376087
>that's why he shouldn't have made angsty music for teenagers to begin with. I don't say that disparagingly. if you immediately go for the senior audience you're free to grow as an artist without people complaining
Frank Sinatra originally started as a teen idol and that did not stop him from becoming a mature artist.

https://youtu.be/d_WjIjopPss

>>68376117
Sinatra was a rare talent though, he had a gift for interpretation and vocal nuance that nobody else could match. Of course the bigger factor was that he came up in a time when it wasn't possible to make big bucks singing greatest hits setlists every night. If he'd been born in a later generation, he could have just milked nostalgia forever by performing songs from his youthful career phase.

Daltrey and Townshend always maintain that they're not pretending to still be 25, but rather they like to see how their interpretation of their old classics has changed as they've aged.

>>68376087
>that's why he shouldn't have made angsty music for teenagers to begin with. I don't say that disparagingly. if you immediately go for the senior audience you're free to grow as an artist without people complaining

If you started out as that, you'll be a manbabby forever. Christgau noted of later career Everly Brothers that, try as they might, they just couldn't sound like grown men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMZJgapy-Ws

Grace Slick's rants about how rock stars shouldn't be over 50 are well known, but it was easy for her to quit because she had other outlets for her creativity such as painting. A lot of these guys just don't know what else to do with themselves.

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"Nobody wants to see a guy in his 60s dancing around on MTV. I needed to find new ways to express myself."

>>68376108
there are thousands of bands I can "forgive" for going after the money but shouldn't rolling stones have enough cash already? maybe they just like brown sugar. and heroin
>>68376117
image wise he was always somewhat of a father figure. calm, controlled and powerful. to me it seems like a generational issue, as competent as he was he was never edgy. to be a real pop sensation these days you need some youthful edge, I can't even imagine what a sinatra would look like today

>>68376320
Edginess such as it existed in the 1940s was mostly exclusive to black music.

>>68376342
those guys often had insane musical chops to back up the drug-fueled craziness and that always helps when aging gracefully. unless you die from an overdose or something

>>68375133
>His family tried one last tour to squeeze $$$ out of his carcass

This fucking burns me up: forcing a man at his age and health to do something intensely uncomfortable and risky like that just to line their own pockets. I hope they were put under police investigation for elder abuse.

>>68376342
That is correct. The Negro has always been a degenerate, sex-crazed species of being, but in those days he was kept apart from the white race until the Israelite decided for his own megalomaniacal reasons to corrupt whites with the ways of the Negro.

>>68376153
he looks like he's killin it tho

>>68376852
anime

>>68376087
Gee, Paul McCartney was never like that. John Lennon even used to mock him for writing "old people" songs but he's written jack-all since he was in his 30s and he plays at concerts like ten Beatles songs, three Wings ones, and one song from his new CD (this is the intermission break where you go to the bathroom).

>>68374473
I really don't think Brian Sounds that bad for his age. Ian Anderson is younger and sounds like shit compared to Brian.

>>68376852
back to /pol/ stormnigger.

>>68376852

these kind of opinions are the true degeneracy

>>68376108
The Rolling Stones don't give a shit about that kind of thing, if you watch interviews they're happy listening and doing bluesy roots music. They even shit on their psychedelic period because of being less "rootsy" sounding.
They're old men who love women, money, heroin and "the blues", for them there's no point in doing something else. They give that little of a shit that the new album they're supposed to release in the near future is a blues cover album of old songs they enjoy.

>>68375240
If I even make it that far if I get a serious illness I'll just blow my brains out.

>>68376104
If you look at Radiohead or several other bands/artists they're fairing pretty well because they see The Beatles and The Beach Boys becoming dadrock in their 30s+ and try to modernize. However in 20 or so years no one can tell. My hope is they retire like they should instead of become a walking zombie act who sold their soul at a young age to record companies like Brian Wilson.
>>68376117
Sinatra was a teen idol who did his parents' music and didn't peak til he was 40. It's accessible to all generations.
>>68376852
/pol/ bait
>>68377100
He didn't only write "When I'm Sixty-Four", he was probably the biggest romancer character and songwriter in the band.
>>68376108
>>68377483
The Rolling Stones sold out midway through their careers but after the studios forgot about them, they started touring on their own and aren't half bad.

How about dadrock bands which definitely do still have it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW__X_Q5wAY
Skip to 3:30

>>68378758
Glenn Hughes is in his mid-60s and looks like a fucking idiot, but still sounds fucking amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXopPdmHaQw

>>68377483

playing the blues has to be the most dignified and classy career direction an aged musician can take. Nothing after classical music has aged as well an old guys can look cool playing it. In fact its a better look on older guys then younger

>>68376251

ozzy manages to pull it off really well

>>68376117

thats because that whole style and genre ages really well, and there have been no more famous crooners after that generation, so they can continue on in the genre without looking too old because there havent been any young guys in it sincr the 60s

>>68375013
>a musician was a dick to an audience member
gasp

>>68375966
>he basically has the exact right idea and people shit on him for it.
That's because he hasn't made a good album since 11998, and specifically has only a handful of decent songs in the

>>68374406
This is part of the reason why Cobain, Morrison, Joplin, Curtis, Hendrix etc are so iconic and beloved by the audiences, you will never see them in their 70's doing a nostalgia tour and destroying their classics.

https://youtu.be/4IIgzZpuv6A
I want to die for knowing this exists

Anyone got a recording of a recent Daniel Johnston concert? He could barely sing any of the songs and he randomly walked out in the middle of the concert I was at.

>>68375306
Gira is 62 but people still love Swans. Their recent albums are still highly praised by fans so it doesn't happen to everyone.

>>68380759
Swans are very niche and they have no canon hits, so people don't associate them as being dadrock or mentally link them to a specific era/pop culture format like they would Motley Crue or Pearl Jam.

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>>68374406
do you guys remember the doors musicians playing with skrillex?
don't do it, you old attention seeking farts

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>>68380844
(^:

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>>68380885

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLRD1R8GNgY

>Rolling Stones """""Live"""""

>>68374406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNQXJCD9IWQ

>Bruce Springsteen
>Neil Young
>Ray Davies
>Elvis Costello

What's their secret to aging with dignity?

>>68374406
Clapton wasn't too bad in that one 2bh, obviously not as good as Cream-era Clapton but that hasn't been the case for like 40 years

https://youtu.be/E5_j91FjsXM?t=12m

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiHHVdp47a8

rip in pisé

>>68381189
Springsteen performs 3+ hour concerts regularly and pretty much carries the whole thing on his own. I'm not a huge fan of his but that's beyond impressive.

Thom Yorke will age well I think. Noel Gallagher has found his niche and even though he only changes 1 or 2 songs on his setlist throughout his tours his concerts are still great. If his brother does release a solo album in the next few months like he's been hinting at, I don't think he'll last long performing live.

>>68374406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tdKl-gTpZg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9vfCg_OnTE

Thankfully God took him before he could sink lower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NyXwr7goGg
How Patton pats him on the back in the beginning hilarious. Imagine singing next after Patton.

>>68374406
>the Zombies literally

captcha: westley cemetery
kek

>>68377211
>>68374473
Yeah, Brian's still doing alright. His performances of Smile and Pet Sounds live were great.

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>tfw your favorite band still has it
>tfw when you will never be able to see them live nonetheless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD-MdiUm1_Y

>>68376087
>he shouldn't have made angsty music for teenagers to begin with
what is growing up

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>>68376320
>image wise he was always somewhat of a father figure.
He was a teen idol when he first got on the map.

>>68383340
Feel your pain, anon.

>wanted to see Paul Simon in Stockholm
>$115

Which is a fraction of what it would have cost to see Led Zeppelin, but still.

>>68383340
damn, John Bonham has aged really well.

>>68374816
damn, can't pass the minute, it makes me so sad.

>>68374406
Al's vocals sound so bad corrected that hard at the beginning.

>>68374406

When your teenage anger has faded away, all that you have left is middle-aged man sadness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dic5RWvuOM

They should have disbanded Slipknot years ago. Keep making rock music in whatever other bands and projects but the "surfacing" Slipknot is long gone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnZtGDFu3k0

Even new songs that -try- to be br00tal come off as forced and faked.

>cuck cuck, cuck me up

>>68376852
Go back to your shithole, /pol/ack

>>68380885
wow. A genius and paul mcararteney or something

>>68374406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqFKnwkIy-M

>>68374406
is that mutha fuckin Jeff Lynne

>>68375240
me too man. it seems so fucking horrible to just see your body and mind wither away and be a husk of yourself

>>68376852
i like how blurred the line is between /pol/ satire and actually being a stupid racist fuck

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>>68385355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0S-9wZWE2E
This somehow manages to be depressing and hilarious at the same time