Where do you stand?
>>68367464
Both are dumb but poptimism is far worse because it pretends that mindless trash is art.
>>68367464
Junglism
Rock as a whole is objectively more complicated, difficult to write/perform and nuanced than pop music.
Pop is great, but it's best for partying or doing mindless activities, which is fine but when it comes to how good music is it doesn't bode well.
Rock is better.
>>68367464
I don't think you understand what those words mean
Give me any male fronted pop song, I can learn to play it and perform it within 15-20 minutes if not less. Not the same with rock.
I believe that both rock and pop are valid and equal forms of art and entertainment, but I also believe that the Japanese have perfected these fields far beyond the scope of Western civilization, and it's time we start integrating or else we become irrelevant.
I name this belief after J-Rock, J-Pop and J-Funk, and thusly call it J-ism.
>>68367464
Personally im a big believer in lesbianism
>>68368667
Same, but the male version, Homolesbianism
>>68367464
Brian invented music
Can you explain these two terms to me? Or rather, what you think they mean?
I'm more of a hiphoptimist.
>>68368631
So I searched Japanese rock on youtube and 4 songs in it's all pop punk with Japanese lyrics.
Weebs are trash
>>68367464
Anti-music nihilism
>>68368631
>jizzom
>>68368395
>>68367485
These
>>68368419
Is this supposed to be an argument for or against pop? Against, I'm hoping
>>68368849
>So I searched Japanese rock on youtube
>>68368696
bit gay
>>68368909
Against.
>>68368912
Yeah what's wrong with that
>>68367464
Both extremes are bad. Pop music shouldn't be exempt from criticism and it's not racist or sexist to dislike Beyonce, but there isn't anything intrinsically more meaningful about rock music. At the same time, I think that top 40 pop music is inextricably linked to capitalist, corporatist influences, and unless there is a blossoming top 40 indie pop scene , I can't help but think that a lot of mainstream pop isn't an actual musical expression on the part of the artist, but rather a product on the part of the music industry.