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Where do you guys go for classical downloads?

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>>68350166

>>68350166
Cross link fail
>>>/wsg/1304579

>>68350676
I like it

>>68350542
What.cd, rutracker, various blogs, sometimes slsk.
>>68350676
9/10

I have been looking for a certain opera aria for ages and can't fucking find it

The part that sticks out are the violins, which sound like they are raining down while a woman sings really high
It is real intense and i want to listen to it so badly

>>68351524
That's way too fucking vague, man

>>68350815
So much pleb taste in that thread

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>>68350166
>choral edition
>not a single mention of Zelenka
FUCKING NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBuBiFZAc7U

>>68350166
Check out my channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_GgVtHAkHKNghroUKONROQ

>>68354905
Zelenka is normie af though

>>68355895
Take that back.

Post cantata you love.

HARD MODE: Only 20th/21st century
EASY MODE: Any of the billion Bach cantata

>Bartok - Cantata Profana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raiy0hIDiXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKd8oKYHsFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYAoayl3nI0

>Nono - Il canto sospeso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3PGZyoR6B0

>Stravinsky - Cantata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8KR8aDbVoU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh8at5VLXtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q9_TtqTOGU

>MacMillan - Quickening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVrD-Y9H08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-LXVkrkRE
Holy shit

>>68357192
ah yes, the wedge fugue. Used to hearing it on organ

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i love pavel

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Can i play this? I've been playing guitar for 6 months i wanna pick it up to play some classical.

I heard they're somewhat simple over all compared to some of his other works.

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>procrastinated an essay comparing baroque and classical operas for weeks
>do it in four hours
>it's shit

>>68358159
what did you expect

>>68358325
Nothing, and I still managed to disappoint myself.

I need some good waltzes to add to my playlist, any annons want to help me out?

>>68358355
i feel bad for you anon, if thats any consolation

>>68358365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCoLUMURunQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5HFufPG31g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD7iUoJP5pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBwNo8ew-nk

>>68358159

>it's shit

Just like opera itself.

>>68360497
Worst meme opinion beside underrating Mozart

>>68360539

Worst music besides Mozart

>>68360497
>t. pleb with no taste

>>68358159
It's ok anon, we can be useless pieces of shit together

What are some good recordings of Janáček's works?

Anyone got downloads of Gustave Mahler?

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Make Classical Great Again

>>68361545
if you have a what.cd account grab all of Reinbert de Leeuw's recordings.

Schoenberg Ensemble Edition, Vol. 4 and Ríkadla have excellent recordings of his vocal works as well as some arrangements for other works.

Rudolf Firkušný is good for the piano works. Mackerras or Gregor in the operatic works.

>>68361729
Read the OP

>>68362185
For an entire set, Kodaly seems to be the best bet.

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DAILY REMINDER

Top country list by classical music output

1. Russia
2. France
3. Italy
4. Eastern European
5. Germany/Austria
6. Northern Europe
7. Britain
8. Spain
........
999999999. United Statian

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>>68362351
>1. Russia

>>68362407
im curious to see your list friendo.
>inb4 Germany/Austria at no 1. I've never understood why everyone rated that overly structured autistic noice with 0 spiritual or emotional depth or creativity so highly

>>68362528
That's not how you greentext, retard

>>68362528
Holy mother of buzzwords batman

Who's the greatest English composer?

>>68362528
Anon.

>>68362351
Correct rankings
1. Germany/Austria
2. Italy
3. France
4. U.S.
5. Spain
.......
999999998. Russia
999999999. Britbongistan

>>68362698
Händel.

>pairing Germany and Austria together
They're completely different guys

>>68362726
>>68362407
>not enjoying shostakovich, prokofiev, stravinsky and scriabin

found the plebs

>>68362840
>enjoying shostakovich, prokofiev, stravinsky and scriabin
>placing any of them above Mozart, Bach, Schoenberg, R. Strauss, and Beethoven.
As did I.

>>68362840
I like all those composers but Russia is 4th place at best

>>68362926
>mozart
>beethoven

baby's first classical music

>>68363071
Fptmiu

>>68361911
Thanks! I am thinking of taking the interview in the near future, so this is extra motivation.

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>>68350166
waiting for this week link

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>tfw you misidentified the folk song setting a qt soprano in the practice room next to you was singing as Berio's instead of Jacob Niles but you struck up a conversation following on from that and are now going to sing some exquisitely beautiful Purcell duets together at an upcoming concert.

>>68363339

Will be up within the hour

Theme is Baroque (slight bias towards vocal because I hadn't realised until doing this that the majority of the baroque music I have includes voice in some capacity)

>>68360497
DELETE THIS

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>>68355895

>>68365397

Because I'm a retard, I'll upload again.

>>68365616

>>68366446

Right, hopefully non-retarded edition now that I think I've scrubbed all the tags properly.

>>68362926
You fucking Reddit bitch pleb drown yourself in piss you fedora tipping cunt. Get off /classical/ you have shit taste pleb cock.

>>68366827
>this is how Russia apologiats actually type

>>68362351
>>68362528
>>68362840
>>68366827
RIDF pls go

Alright, who's the best english composer that's not Handel?

>>68368071
Elgar

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This is good.

>>68368071
anyone who's not Elgar, Holst or Ralph Vaughan Williams

>>68368071
Purcell probably. Maybe a case can be made for Brittan.

>>68362351
russia and usa shared way too many good musicians

>>68368071
PETZOLD

>>68369305
OH MY GOD FUCK PETZOLD I'M SO TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT PETZOLD WHO EVEN IS HE

How do you feel about Ernst Von Dohnányi?

I love his American Rhapsody and his first piano concerto.

>>68369923
I think I heard his quartet forever ago
It was nice

Do you guys have any dark or even mysterious impressionist pieces you`d care to recommend?

>>68363964
Berio is underrated desu.

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>>68370310
I only ever listen to music as dark, edgy, emotional and mysterious as myself.

>>68371156
That's lovely anon

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What does /classical/ think of Arvo Pärt

>>68371542
meme
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m
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>>68371542
meme
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m
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>>68371757
>>68371767
Okay :^(
Who should I listen to instead

>>68371891
Jean de Okeghem

>>68371891
Mozart

>>68371936
>Jean de
Disgusting.

>>68362726
Russia goes above US and Spain at least

>>68362814
Austria just below Germany. Yeah yeah further proof I know, but Bach+Beethoven at least HAS to be>Mozart.

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>>68373489
Hmmm, really fires your neurons.

>>68373613
>Russia
>above the U.S.
Carter and Crawford Seeger > all Russian composers.

>>68368071
Ferneyhough

>>68373789
Not Stravinsky and Schnittke

>>68373846
>Schnittke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoaTVgvxm-M

>>68362726
Who does Spain even have outside of Falla and maybe a couple renaissance composer?

>>68373923
Catalonia doesn't count as Spain btw

>>68373923
Scarlatti

>>68373923
Albéniz and Sarasate are pretty cool.

>>68371542
He's great.
Don't ever fall for the meme meme, that's hivemind shit, art doesn't work that way.

>>68368071
They're all renaissance period. Tallis, Taverner, Fayrfax, Byrd.

>>68371542
Excellent composer. His collage uber B-A-C-H and perpetuum mobile are very cool, and his later minimal works are beautiful.

>>68373880
Based symphony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeUjMagnJ_M

Mozart's Coronation Mass is one of my favorite sacred works. It's catchy yet powerful.

,

>>68373846
I love stravinsky for his choral works but schnittke comes off as distinctly secular, and so does bartok.
It's just so stale.
Like alright we get it you're fucking hungarian.

>>68368071
Oliver Knussen
Harrison Birtwistle
John Tavener
Michael Tippett
John McCabe

K A R L

A M A D E U S

H A R T M A N N

>>68378163
Not aware of this fellow. What do you recommend?

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rec me classical music that sounds like black metal

>>68379215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmHneL9w9eI

The end is pure black metal

Wagner was black

>>68379646
So was Beethoven

Verdi was an atheist.

>>68380363
So was Brahms

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great cover

>>68381167
>>68381167
Yeah it really fits his name, especially the first three letters of his last name.

Who are the best composers under age 50?

>>68383313
Me

>>68383313
no me.

>>68383313
Schoenberg

>>68371542
God tier.

/classical/ cops a beef with him for catering to mass appeal and being accessible casuals that are aware of him.

>>68371542
candy ass

I am going to philharmony for a first time in live (bruckner). My question: where should i sit? Balcony, ground floor, on sides or in the centre, front or at the back?

>>68384559
Ground floor, centre

>>68384559
Sit in the hallway you stupid retard

>>68383313
Chopin

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>>68371542
Shit. Pic related is a better composer.

>>68384559
Don't forget to cough every few minutes

Which dead composer would be most likely doing the dab if he was alive today?

>>68384559
>>68387285
in particular wait for the most quiet and sensitive moments to cough loudly

>>68387308
Wagner since he was black

>>68387285
Also don't silence your phone. Ringtones together with chamber and solo music create stunning polyphonic textures.

>>68384559
Tbh, it shouldn't matter too much. Music should sound good no matter where you are. I don't have much experience with larger halls but I've been in many theatres and it really doesn't matter whether you're in the first or the last row.

>>68383313
Mozart

>>68387308
>dab
literally what

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close call between this and kronos quartet for worst lyric suite

>>68373923
PETZOLD

>>68387614
>not knowing what a dab is
lmao'ing at your life right now my friend.

>>68371542
which part
I prefer two part inventions

>>68387639
let me guess, it's some narcotic used by junkie scum nowadays

>>68387630
Belcea are memers

Does anyone here know Sarà Mingardo?

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>>68362726
>>68362926
>>68367436
>>68373640
Your friendly reminder that G*rmans, not Jews, are responsible for the degeneracy going on in various art forms and especially in art music.

>Bach
Single-handedly killed emotion with his complexity wank.

>Schoenberg
Turned music into cacophonous nonsense.

>Wagner
His power metal-esque bombastisn-over-substance compositions influenced a whole generation of frustrated teens to take the National Socialist path decades later.

>Stockhausen
Took Schoenberg's formula even further. Responsible for electronic """"""""music"""""""".

And, these are just the brightest examples.

If your top 5 composers happen to be of G*rman origin, heck if your favorite composer happens to be of G*rman origin, you just hate music, plain and simple.

>>68387965
>Single-handedly killed emotion
(not true, by the way.)
Also Schoenberg was Austrian.
And Austria > Germany

>>68388072
>implying there's much of a difference

>>68362698
Holst

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>>68388072
>austria
>abos and kangaroos
no thanks

>>68387965
I enjoy this post.

>Single-handedly killed emotion
https://youtu.be/pf4UNJqv_-A

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>>68387965
>but was defeated by Anglo-Saxons

What are some good concertos for tuba or triangle?

>>68388424

Liszt's 1st piano concerto has a little memey bit with triangle in the 3rd movement

And aside from Vaughan Williams' Tuba Concerto, there's not much in the repertoire. Some brass band specialist has probably arranged some bottesini or something for tuba as the soloist, but that's just conjecture on my part

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>>68388424
>good concertos for tuba
Dvorak's 9th symphony

>>68387327
also clap in between every movement

>>68388424
Aho's tuba concerto is kinda cool.
I think Wuorinen has a tuba concerto too.

>>68374045
I fucking hate the 20s style, 1900 through 1914 might have been the last time the world was sane

WW1 really destroyed the beauty of Europe

>>68375942
God why does Mozart suck so much?

>>68389152
Because you have bad taste.

>>68389185
>liking Moorzart

>>68389185
>he likes a literal shit eater
>says I have shit taste

mozart fans everybody

>>68389360
I said you have bad taste, my friend. Not shit.

>>68389360
>implying scat isn't a thinking man's fetish
Don't you have a Kanye thread to be posting in?

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I'm not really enjoying this. I think I'll just stick to Koroliov / Walcha.

>>68389433
Feet are much better

>>68389380
Shit is bad

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>>68389495
>Feet are much better

>>68389495
>Feet are much better
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/columns/the-sexist/blog/13118846/the-foot-fetish-brain-map

Foot fetishes are for defects.

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>>68389454

>>68390226
>orchestra
I would rather listen to it on keyboard (and at my most eccentric, string quartet). This doesn't really capture what I'm looking for.

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>nigh-perfect execution (what a great orchestra)
>biting brass
>sly use of portamento
>well judged tempi (albeit just a bit slow in some movements)
>very wide dynamic range, the way it should sound

on the other hand,
>some of the singers are pretty wobbly, can't into diction worth a shit
>tempo fluctuations underplayed (this is probably a plus for some)
>american seating (excellent balances otherwise, though)

overall pretty good set. wasn't expecting much from this conductor i never heard of, but what i got was a feast for the ears and some pretty unique playing.

>>68390516
It's a chamber orchestra.
But yeah, I guess not everyone would enjoy that. I think one of the best things about Bach though is you can virtually arrange his music for anything and it still sounds great

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HIP is a spook.
y/n?

>>68391145
Do you have a dl link for this maybe?

>>68392852
yes

>>68350979
how do I not get scared when torrenting frmo shitty russian websites where all torrents have russian descriptions

>>68392960
do you have a baidu account?

>>68390226
>toronto

>>68392852
A good spook, unless the rest of music.

>>68393999
I've never had a bad experience with RuTracker. As long as you set up an account and screen the files in your torrent client you'll be fine.

>>68388220
You're thinking of Australia, Anonymous.

>>68393999
It's actually a great website.

>>68393999
Rutracker is blocked in Russia so it's a guaranteed fine website.

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>>68374045
hes a manlet but he still fucked your bitch

>>68384559
doesnt matter where you sit just remember that. Bruckner is a better composer than Mahler.

>>68393999

The worst thing about rutracker is that you sometimes get some very questionable tagging, but otherwise it really has an incredible selection of stuff.

>>68398018
>Bruckner is a better composer than Mahler.
Other way round kiddo

>>68358101
Haven't heard these but my guess is no. Play Brouwer's 12 etudes and F. Sor's guitar studies and some Tarrega stuff.

With classical guitar (probably any instrument desu) the basiscs are crucial. Fingerpicking i.e. not using i or m finger twice in a row... is crucial to learn if you want to tackle harder pieces. Also, you should look to have your right and left hands in the right position, and nails on your right hand is a must, especially on the thumb.

>>68383362
>>68383501
>>68383560
>>68386443
>>68387590
Thanks for the recommendations.

You want some REAL classical plebs?
Take this piece from the late 1000's Roman Empire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_8aSrsTlCE

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Why did Mozart tell that QT constanze that he loved her and proposed and then fucked a bitch through the casting couch 5 minutes later? Was Mozart a psychopath?

>>68399169
he was black, so

How to get into opera?
I've listened extensively to classical music, but every time I approach opera my research gets to a stop. I really don't get why I should like it most of the time, even when I'm listening to guys that everyone quotes, like Mozart or Strauss.

Can you give me some insight? Why do you guys like it?

>>68399588
You like it for the same reason you look other classical music, duh. It just has a story to go with it.

Could you guys help me theres a skng that goes to this tune


Oh dreo drea.... oh dreo drea
Dun dun drea dud ye

Plz help i know im bad i think its french

>>68399588
>falling for the opera meme

>>68399610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8En-59HDMrA

>>68399588
Chapter V. 3 (pg 288) onwards deals exclusively with Opera.
https://u.pomf.is/fgayre.djvu

>>68399563
Beethoven was the black one god damn it

He literally invented jazz, so

>>68399674
Mozart - Moors art, so

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Can I get composer and/or interpreter for composer recommendations please? I'm pretty new to classical music and I don't really know about these things... Thank you

>>68399700
Listen to Mozart.

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>>68399700
>>68399714

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>>68399700
I don't really agree with much of this list, but it's still a decent start.

Really, the hardest thing about getting into classical is starting out. And as far as I'm concerned, anything that helps you do that is fine. Every develops their own tastes/preferences anyway.

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>>68399700
Listen to everything under the classical section of this chart. You can also use the rest of the chart for other kinds of music.

>>68399726
>no Piano Concerto 25
it's one of my favorites tho

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Opinions on this?

>>68360497
t. Petzold fan

>>68399763
RIP Ame.

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i find this very good

I've listened for the first of time to Leonhardt's Art of Fugue, and I've noticed that he often slows the whole music down, similarly to how I do it when I'm not really comfortable with the piece I'm playing.

Does he do it because the art of fugue is too hard for him or there is a reason behind such a choice? (Maybe linked to the instrument?)

>>68399169
Because Mozart was a fucking madman with poor self control and an addictive personality, the film was correct about that stuff

>>68403208
He's a good player and the Art of Fugue isn't incredibly difficult to play or anything (although there are a few that can be relatively difficult, especially at higher tempi). He's probably just doing it for stylistic purposes. Among HIPsters, Leonhardt is definitely a bit more free, it isn't unusual to hear a ritardando from him.

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Name a better Op. 1
Protip: you can't.

>>68395100
No, is that the only way i can get it?

>>68404028
Berg

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>>68350676

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFeVWhuiPks
What did he mean by this?

>>68405361
Saved

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>people saying mowzart instead of Mowtsart

>>68351524
At least provide an style (baroque? Classical?) and the language (German, Italian, French, English?)

Any of you guys play classical music yourself? Just interested in seeing the correlation between classical listeners and actual (amateur or pro) performers

I've been playing classical music for about 20ys now, but I barely listen to recordings.

>>68407611
I'm not even a casual musican. I can sing p good though.

How to overcome a personal dislike for a particular instrument?

For some reason I truly hate the way classical guitar (and electrical guitar, when played in a virtuoso manner) sounds, and I think I'm really missing out on all the good stuff out there.

Listening to it nonstop for weeks will make me accostumed to it or will I just end up hating it more?

I'm asking here cause probably most of you guys have took class in listening to music.

>>68407611
At this point becoming a good musician would probably take me 10+ years of practice, i just don't have time for it.

>>68407773
As a piano and wind instrument player, I don't quite get acoustic guitars. It is capable of polyphony, but controlling the dynamics of simultaneous voices is even harder than on the piano, and I often get the impression, that the flow of guitar pieces often feel disrupted by the challenging playing technique, yielding in low returns on investment so to say.
Monophonic melody playing is not a thing for classical guitar, but for accompaniment or basso continuo, it's okay.

As for electric guitar, it feels like a whole different matter. With all the distortion and the reduced decay, it works nicely for carrying a melody, similar to a Plenum setting on a pipe organ. But then again, their main genre is at best related to baroque style.

Went to a really interesting concert for clarinet and tape/electronics earlier. Programme was

>New York Counteproint - Reich
>In memoriam Stuart Marshall - Lucier
>Threnos for 1,2,4,8 Bass Clarinets, Real and Virtual - Austin

The Lucier went on a bit too long (basically long notes on a bass clarinet played against a sine wave, highlighting the 'beating' effect you get when two notes sound together) since it didn't have a progression like 'I Am Sitting in a Room' but the effect was pretty cool nonetheless.

>>68407773
Bach and Vivaldi's suites/concerti for mandolin/lute are pretty engaging and might be a way in. Otherwise Boccherini's Fandago quintet is pretty good.

>>68407611
I do a lot of classical singing, but I'm still a student. Thinking about doing a postgrad and going pro in earnest. In my experience, most of the singers are work with are musical retards who don't really engage with classical music beyond whatever they are performing. Instrumentalists are slightly better, but it's only exceptional ones who really care.

In my experience, most people under 30 who listen to classical music beyond 'Yeah I love Bach, Beethoven... the list goes on' are people who perform it. After that, it jumps to the 60+ crowd who don't perform, but attend the stuff religiously.

>>68407773
Just embrace it.

Like how I've come to embrace my hatred for the harpsichord

>>68408663
>tfw I listen to lots of classical from various different styles and periods solely for personal enjoyment
>tfw studying something completely unrelated to music, not a professional musician and never will be

There is a piece, it has something about "death" or "blackness" in its title. I think the author is a German composer, though I am not 100% sure.

Somewhere I read the Nazis allegedly put it on when burning jews in the gas chambers or just generally in CZ camps. This piece of history/rumor might help identify it.

Anyone have any idea what exactly it is called? I just can't remember.

>>68409306
>Somewhere I read the Nazis allegedly put it on when burning jews in the gas chambers or just generally in CZ camps.
Did they do this while they grinned mischievously whilst twirling their mustaches?

Question from a non-classical pleb (originally prog rock): I want to get into classical music but I already have musical preferences. I really love both melancholic and romantical pieces and I loved the few things I heard from Chopin so far. I don't have any preferences about the instruments - solo, orchestra, opera, everything's fine for me.
Which artists would you recommend and is there anywhere I should start? Every bit of help is appreciated, thanks in advance!

>>68405361
true

>>68409905
Shit's already been answered.

>>68399763
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>>68410079
Whoops, sorry. Thanks.

>>68409619
FASLEHOOD! Nazis were clean shaven!

What's a good recording of Mendelssohn's string symphonies?

>>68407611
Was trained classically in regards to the piano for about 5 years. I got to an upper-high intermediate level, and can play a decent amount of pieces. My grasp on theory is pretty weak though, but I am able to at least fluently read music

I mostly listen more than I do play, and am trying to learn best how to write about music.

>>68407611

Related question: what was your experience in starting playing classical music late?
I'm 20 and I'm seriously considering dropping most of my hobbies (drawing and photography) and start playing piano at least 4 hours everyday (I'm extremely disciplined and I know I can mantain this level of exercing for years).

Will I ever catch on concert pianists who started when they were 3? I really want to master the instrument.

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>sad losers making humor that takes no comprehension of classical music or theory to understand
>circle jerk of people who think that retarded jokes are enlightening because the subject matter is classical music
>no actual discussion
Oh this thread again

>>68415632
Mozart is underrated!!!!!!!! LOL

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This pic sums up the general level of humor in these threads

>>68351524
just listen to isoldes liebestod desu faminiamila

>>68414438
pls respond