What do you think of Band on the Run by Wings

>>68263251
Better than any album by the Beatles.

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it makes me think that we're living in wonderful times because you fairly rarely find people anymore who think it's better than RAM

I'm an old person - I remember a time when it was pretty commonly thought that Band on the Run was the best thing McCartney did after the Beatles. That's just silly.

>>68263302
Ram is also better than any album by the Beatles.

>paul
>anything but a talentless hack

>>68263328
it's pretty damn close, actually

certainly it's not as influential, but it's damn cohesive. Dear Boy doesn't really get credit as the ultimate "granny song" Paul ever wrote - shit is just what When I'm 64, Ob-La-Di, Ob-LaDa, Martha My Dear and Maxwell's Silver Hammer and such were trying to be, only actually a great track

>>68263394
Nice 40 year old meme opinion.

Wings > Beatles

You literally can't prove me wrong.

>>68263425
>When I'm 64, Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, Martha My Dear and Maxwell's Silver Hammer
>not great tracks

8/10

its good but ram is definitely better

>>68263328
I actually just figured out that if you take the A-side of RAM and B-side of Abbey Road you have an absolutely killer album that really shows how having your tracks flow well is valuable to having a good album whole.

That would certainly be the best Beatles album ever.

>>68263474
just saying Dear Boy is for me an even better track in that style - that snark against Lennon really adds it the spice that style always needed

>>68263530
But the B side of Ram is better than the B side of Abbey Road.

It's pretty good. The title track hooked me immediately.

What did you all think of Wings at the Speed of Sound? I always had a soft spot for that album, never see it talked about though

>>68264135
Let Em In and Silly Love Songs are god tier pop songs. Warm and Beautiful is also a lovely. Time to Hide and Beware My Love are way better live on Wings Over America. The only lousy song on Speed of Sound is Cook of the House (Linda's only lead vocal track in Wings).

>>68263549
>that snark against Lennon
[citation needed]

>>68263455
>Lack of anything Lennon
Oh wow it's so great dishonest granny music

>>68264347
>Lennon wrote more honest music than McCartney at any point in his career

>>68264377
Why would you post a correct statement as a greentext?

>>68264403
Why are you so dense?

>>68264432
Why are you so musically illiterate?

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>>68264135
I got that album signed by Denny Laine when I saw his last April.

>>68264476
I assume you mean poetically or lyrically illiterate? I can assure you that McCartney was lightyears ahead of Lennon musically. Lyrically they cancel out. John had just as many preachy rich boy political nonsense songs as Paul had nursery rhymes.

>>68264595
>I assume you mean poetically or lyrically illiterate?
I just said "musically", so I suppose you are also illiterate in general?
>I can assure you that McCartney was lightyears ahead of Lennon musically.
That talent is useless if it's dishonest granny drivel.
>preachy rich boy political nonsense songs
Not relevant because they were honest.

>>68263272
>What is All Things Must Pass

>>68264653
>autism speaks

>>68264653
So Lou Reed > Mozart? Lol

>>68264698
I Don't Have an Argument: The Post
>>68264745
Strawman

Can anyone rec me anything Lennon did after the Beatles?

>>68264874
Plastic Ono Band

>>68264902
It's shit

>>68265002
Why?

>>68264327
oh I guess it's debatable - there is still some snark to the lyrics whoever it's pointed at and that's what matters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dear_Boy_(song)

Wings is my least favorite Beatles related project. Just feels so soulless.

>>68264654
a fucking too long triple-album is what it is

might be a good way to show Harrison had all sorts of mediocre compositions in store, but shit's too long obviously

>>68265100
My point is that people just assume it's about Lennon, but there's absolutely no real evidence of it. McCartney lacked the lyrical prowess to add clues as Lennon could with How Do You Sleep, and it just seems more likely it's sung to a made-up character as much as Uncle Albert and Admiral Halsey. Or maybe Linda Eastman's ex-husband.

>>68264760
Every now and then you should ask yourself "do I have any idea what I'm talking about?" It's a good character building exercise.

>>68264501

nice

>>68264902
This.

>>68265002
Your opinion is shit.

>>68265184

Sure, I have on interest in debating this - all that I care about is that it has that confident snark in the lyrics that Paul's Beatles-era granny songs were missing, it's the contrast between the condescending and strong lyrics and sweet harmonies and music that really makes the track a real stand-out for me

>>68265243
Not an argument.

Stop posting anytime

>>68265269
Does it really? or is it all just a dishonest illusion?

Without any context to who it's about, it's not snarky at all. It's more granny music fairy tales.

>>68265116
It's honestly no more soulless than 90% of the Beatles' output.

>>68265271
Welcome to our thread. Feel free to make a circle jerk over Lennon thread.

>>68265306
48% is a more probably estimate

>>68265323
You'd just shitpost in it, wouldn't you? Don't lie.

>>68265348
No because I have a lot of respect for John.

>>68265324
I think you should dedicate more time to listening to Wings if you think that. Particularly Wild Life, OP's pic related, London Town, and Back to the Egg.

>>68265373
Prove it.

>>68264874
Imagine is really an alternative anthem for good reason - beautiful lyrics that were very controversial at the time for someone in his position - still very enduring I think and the more time goes on the less they become controversial and accepted - a remarkable piece of brave songwriting

Apart from that, he made some nice gestures in lyrics, but pretty mediocre overall. Yoko's Why is by far the superior Plastic Ono Band era track either made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCb0TsSIqI0

Yoko is actually a pretty remarkable contemporary artist - always annoys me when people won't take her art seriously because of petty Beatles -shit.

>>68265423
>I think you should dedicate more time to listening to Wings if you think that.
I think you should calculate Paul's contributions to the Beatles (approx 48%) if you think otherwise
>Particularly Wild Life, OP's pic related, London Town, and Back to the Egg.
Those albums are terribad

>>68265429
No.

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>>68265136
no

>>68265446
Enjoy my shitposting then Paulfaggot

>>68265443
You've listened to those albums? All the way through while letting go of your bias? I sincerely doubt it.

>>68265461
Feel free. Thanks for the bumps. The world would be a boring place if we all shared the same opinions.

>>68265304
huh?

it's at least clearly confrontational and boastful unlike Paul's vaudeville -output with the Beatles.

Like I don't know what you're arguing - maybe there's some hidden edge I never heard to When I'm 64 or whatever but what?

>>68265469
>You've listened to those albums?
I wouldn't be here if I didn't.

Have a real argument left? Or are you going to dance around it some more and pretend I'm not familiar with Paul's music before being critical of it?
>>68265484
Big words for someone intolerant of others' opinions
>>68265517
Eat a dick

Did you make this thread? Did I come in and start spewing my opinions instead of discussing the music?

>>68265580
>>68265538

>>68265580
Show me where you discussed the music at all.

>>68265618
>wanting to be spoonfed while shitposting.

You're allowed to read the previous posts on 4chan.

>>68265661
>I want to discuss music
>no I won't spoonfeed you
Make up your m,ind

PROTIP: I know more about The Beatles than you ever will, so there is no way you could spoonfeed me anything btw

>>68265705
>doesnt like Wings
>I know more about the Beatles

Rain man (a true blue autistic person) knew the phone numbers of every person in Laramie county, Wyoming. This somehow makes him a more understanding person when it comes to emotional connections made during phone calls?

>>68265451

what is he doing

Thom you are not a clock

>>68265764
>>doesnt like Wings
Quote me where I said that

I didn't read whatever else you said because I had a gut feeling it was an ad hominem. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>68266789
>I didn't read what you had to say

I just don't think you understood what I said.

>>68266871
>I just don't think you understood what I said.
Was it relevant to the topic?

>>68266898
Are any of these posts?

>>68266789
>>68265705
>>68265618
>>68265538
>>68265461
>>68265443
>>68265429
>>68265348
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>>68265271
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>>68264403
>>68264347


I don't care which ones are (you) and which ones aren't. If you wish to talk about Paul McCartney, Wings, or Band on the Run then say something worthwhile.

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>>68267014
>You are only allowed to praise the artist in question
lol

>>68267045
You had 0 valid criticisms. The ones you think are valid (granny tunes) are just stale criticisms that are brought up all the time in the music critic field. Show me something new you uninteresting faggot.

>>68267103
Ooops you didn't read the parts about musical dishonesty.

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>>68267153
Define musical honesty. Oh, you can't? Oh because it's not a real concept. Well shit.

>>68267185
>Define musical honesty
mu·si·cal
ˈmyo͞ozək(ə)l/
adjective
adjective: musical

1.
of or relating to music.

dis·hon·es·ty
disˈänəstē/
noun
noun: dishonesty

deceitfulness shown in someone's character or behavior.


Also so: inauthentic art

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>>68267232
In order to say what "inauthentic art" is you need to define what "art" is. Good luck!

>>68263251
The album the Beatles could have made.

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>>68267251
art1
ärt/
noun
noun: art; plural noun: arts; plural noun: the arts

1.
the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.

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>>68267265
Wow, after centuries of artists, teachers, and art critics trying to figure out what "art" actually is, you solved the problem by simply looking up the word "art" in the dictionary. I'm sorry I ever doubted your intellect.

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>>68267403
If you wish to talk about Paul McCartney, Wings, or Band on the Run then say something worthwhile. Show me something new you uninteresting faggot.

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>>68267486
Hey, I tried to start up a conversation with you what I posted that originally. I don't see how you think your shit posting is going to make a difference in anyone's opinions on the Beatles solo or collectively. I don't think you're full blown autistic though because I like that you used my own post against me.

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>>68267534
>Hey, I tried to start up a conversation with you what I posted that originally.
And then you just stopped and wanted to be pedantic.

Let me know when you want a discussion.

>>68264347
butchering lennon quotes isnt a criticism my friend sorry

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>>68267629
Who was your favorite Wings lead guitarist?

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>>68267641
Why isn't it valid?
>>68267666
None

>>68267698
Nice discussion.

>>68267706
Did you answer the question I just asked?

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>>68267748
I didn't ask any questions.

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>>68267787
Nice discussion.

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>>68267810
What Wings albums did you like when you listened to them?

>>68267840
Red Rose Speedway and Band on The Run are both excellent.

RAM and McCartney are both good as well, but they aren't Wings albums.

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Band on the Run [Apple, 1973]

I originally underrated what many consider McCartney's definitive post-Beatles statement, but not as much as its admirers overrate it. Pop masterpiece? This? Sure it's a relief after the vagaries of Wild Life and Red Rose Speedway, and most of side one passes tunefully enough--"Let Me Roll It" might be an answer to "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" and "Jet" is indeed more "fun" than "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey." But beyond those two the high points are the title track, about the oppression of rock musicians by cannabis-crazed bureaucrats, and the Afro-soul intro to "Mamunia," appropriate from relatives of the Nigerian children who posed for the inner sleeve with Sah and helpmates. C+

>>68267872
I take it you didn't care for Wild Life? Could you elaborate on why?

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>>68267897
>why is it always JFK and Lennon, and not Nixon and McCartney

>>68267898
Sub-par songwriting, scatterbrained arrangements.

>>68267925
I think that Some People Never Know is the diamond in the rough. Melodically on par with his White Album/Let It Be material. It wouldve fit nicely on Ram too I feel, but I like Ram the way it is.

>>68267968
That song is alright.

>>68267897
>>68267919
>guy who unironically gave As to Yoko Ono albums
Fuck that shit.

>>68268100

Christgau is basically a troll senpai

Sentence long reviews, usually with a witty comment, followed by an arbitrary rating. My man made a career out of being a shitposter