wtf? i hate white people now

>>68255868
so i'm guessing she didn't inherit whatever genes her sister did

If I get a lime thrown at me for dancing in the seated section of a Kraftwerk concert can I get BNM too?

BNM?

MORE LIKE BLM

amirite??

what took you so long?

>only just now starting to hate white people
You aren't gonna make it

more like you hate white americans

>>68255907
haha lol

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>this is the writer of the review

lol
exactly what i expected

>>68258048
Jesus Christ what a fucking living meme.

>>68258048
>>68258048
kill it with fire

>>68255873
Yeah, she did not inherit those man genes and is thus a much more feminine and talented woman.

>>68258048
she looks like a 40 year old trying to be a hip millennial. does she teach sociology courses at the local CC by any chance?

>>68258048
>tfw live in seattle and surrounded by people like this 24/7

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>>68258070
>>68258091
>unironically wearing these glasses
ugh

>>68258125
No, she is trying to be ironic, her entire existence is based around being ironic. Thats why its cringey

>>68258048
Who tf thought it was a good idea to let women be critics?

>>68258157
back to /pol

>>68258157
No one. they just bitched and whined until men were fed up with their nagging, so we let them pretend like theyre actually contributing to society, when in reality we just want them to shut up

>>68258183
back to tumblr

>>68258183
Women are objectively too emotionally unstable and biased to be critics

The album isn't terrible but I wouldn't call it great or anything. It's just average and I can't help but feel they inflated the score because of "muh powerful message yaaass queen slay" like they did with Beyonce.

>>68258275
yeah and ALL men are perfectly stable and unbiased which is why any man can be a critic.

>>68258275
This is objectively a retarded opinion

>>68258301
Mostly, yah

>>68258154
Yeah, but it's sort of like the rule where shitposting is still shitposting even if you are being ironic. Ironically wearing those glasses is still wearing those glasses.

>>68258318
Sorry anon, I just look at the facts

>>68258275

You can't just put the word "objectively" into your opinion and have it regarded as fact

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>>68258048
>>68258125

Fuck, someone needs to make a photo compilation of the current pitchfork staff (specifically writers) to see if they really a living meme.

>>68258356
It is a fact regardless of how you feel about it

>>68258048
jesus, that's one ugly ho right there. not that being ugly is the problem itself, it's more what this guy >>68258102 says. also, they are basically a living meme

i hope someone from p4k is on /mu/ right now so they make a shitty article about women in music journalism or some shit like that, if that's the case PLEASE SCREENCAP THIS POST

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>>68258356

Wow, way to be subjective dummy.

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>>68255868
Wait what are you people saying that that's not Beyonce

I'm not even kidding what is going on

>>68258380

That's Beyonces sister I guess.

>>68258048
>>68258125
I go to school with these type of fucks. they are annoying cunts acting like they're top tier women
type of bitches that nobody should ever gave them confidence. they flaunt how ugly they are

>>68258364
Mark Richardson is the only one I respect

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>>68258048
You got to be fucking kidding me

>>68258275
hows are those mommy issues treatin ya?

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>>68258048

>>68258366

How is "women are biased" a fact? What does that even mean?
How does women being more emotional than men make them worse reviewers?

Use your critical thinking skills

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Why is /mu/ so threatened by black empowerment?

>>68258585
how is it black empowerment when a white website is the one giving them high ratings?

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>>68258364
staff, and the glasses lady

>>68258585
Because blacks squander it every time

>>68258585

I don't think anyone on here really cares about that, just the try-hard irony pitchfork writers literally exist within their image.

>>68258585
Why is /mu/ so threatened by females?

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>>68258611
>women

>>68258611
This is what happens when kids don't have bullies in their life

>black person gets BNM
>/mu/ gets triggered
the world keeps spinning

>>68258611
what a bunch of yappies

>>68258585
idk but every good review of a black artist has a blurb like this which i find kind of demeaning. p4k is just obnoxious and this practice strikes me as some kind of obscure white atonement cum cry for attention

>>68258585
the fact that you use the word black shows you're already indoctrinated in racist thinking. if you weren't racist, you would just say empowerment.

>>68258611
not ONE black male or black female

>>68258611
from left to right, from top to bottom:

Matthew Strauss | Stacey Anderson | Jenn Pelly | Jillian Mapes
Amy Phillips | Matthew Schnipper | Ryan Schreiber | Quinn Moreland
Jazz Monroe | Noah Yoo | Marc Hogan | Philip Sherburne
Evan Minsker | Jayson Green | Ryan Dombal | Julianne Escobedo Shepherd

>>68258674
but mu does not have a problem with empowerment in general, only black empowerment.

>>68258611
oh lord

/mu/ is turning more into /pol/ every day

>>68258810
its a mix of /pol/ and /a/ atm

>>68258725
this. but no one here is going to spend time hearing you out so dont bother

>>68258674
get out, liberal

>>68258810
dude music have political messages now???

when did that start happening???

>>68258725
I'm sure /mu/ is all for white empowerment :^)

>>68258849

im not talking about the politics, politics in music is one of the most powerful things to write about

im talking about people just immediately dismissing music just because about black empowerment, if its a shitty album thats fine but rejecting it only because of its surface level theme is obnoxious

>>68258903
black empowerment is a meme

this is a meme album

>>68258834
i'm a conservative but nice meme

wtf i hate niggers now

>>68258903

America has become retardedly polarized on both ends because of this election cycle

once it's over shit should get back to normal

>>68258948
Not likely. It's not like this just started within the last year

>>68258903
we don't care that the album itself is about black empowerment, the issue is it seems like they're rating it so highly just because it's about black empowerment rather than the musical content. an album like TPAB gets praised here all the time and the reviews talk about the musical merit while this review just talks about how strong and powerful and sososo important the message is rather than the musical content. it's just more virtue signaling from yuppie white liberals from brooklyn/seattle/portland to look progressive.

>>68258937
same

>>68258810
>anyone whos not a liberal is from /pol/!
Epic argument XD.

And the fact you think /mu/ is less liberal than it use to be just demonstrates what a newfag you are. The entirety of 4chan use to be like /pol/, its been steadily shrinking for years

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>higher than Atrocity exhibition

>>68259228
Atrocity Exhibition wasnt politcal enough for them. Apparently the only way to get attention from p4k is to play identity politics

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>It's a 'Black musician mentions race' album

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>>68258048

>>68255868
>pain and joy of black womanhood
>whole staff is white and male
so cringe even they know it, right? they are literally just trolling us.

I'm gonna make an album about the pains and joys of being white and see if it gets the same response

>>68259201
>The entirety of 4chan use to be like /pol/, its been steadily shrinking for years

Not that guy but the only one who's showing who is a newfag is you. 4chan has never been a bitter far right hellhole like your stormfront buddies.

>>68255868
>pro-black = anti-white

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>this thread

This album is amazing

>>68258048
ok now I'm convinced pitchfork is a fucking joke

>>68258048
she looks like a grandma librarian

>>68258101
settle down la

>>68258611
My god its a fucking platoon of nu-males

>>68258123
Senpai you gotta hang in south Seattle. Get out of the pretentious hellscape of Seattle meme-igrants.

>>68259201
>The entirety of 4chan use to be like /pol/, its been steadily shrinking for years
spotted the newfag
no one talked about politics here in 2011
stormfags started to shit every board only after gaymergate happened

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>>68259323
4chan has always been staunchly anti-racism :^)

>>68259335

>>68259201
/b/ + /v/ =/= the entirety of 4chan

/mu/ used to be incredibly liberal

>>68259323
It wasnt literally conservative, but racial slurs and other general edgy nonsense use to be much more prominent. Even /b/ is way more laid back than it use to be. 4chan use to be a cesspool of racisim, sexism, and homophobia, even if most of it was ironic. 4chan is more normie than ever

>>68259330
Now imagine trying to convince blacks and liberals that pro-white =/= anti black

good luck with that lmao

>>68259393
>/mu/ used to be incredibly liberal
How do you know? Politics never got discussed on /mu/ before

>>68258393
the kind that have never had consensual sex, but tell people this.

the kind that take pride in having hairy armpits and legs, outlandishly.

the kind that don't shower anywhere near often enough, and do not deodorise, but still invade your personal space shamelessly.

all of these things are fine, just they don't need to tell anyone about it. no one fucking cares if your father never raised his voice to you, ever. etc

>>68259393
It clearly still is

>>68259376
How delusional do you have to be to believe /pol/ invading 4chan is the reason for every political discussion

>>68259405
Conservatives are normies though

>>68259546
Nah, the left has been winning the culture war for years now.

>>68259441
the way people would talk about gender / drugs / hip hop made it quite obvious the board was left leaning

>>68259490
>there are people that disagree with me on /mu/ therefore it's liberal
LOVE this meme
there are so much alt right on /mu/ these days its bananas

>>68259599
>there are so much alt right on /mu/ these days
I bet you think anyone who doesnt support blm is "alt right" dont you?

>>68259599
>>there are people that disagree with me on /mu/ therefore it's alt-right

>>68259633
no i think that people posting multiple threads like >>68258103 a day is """""alt right"""""

>>68258048
critics, everyone.

>>68259677
How is that alt right? Racist jokes dont make you alt right. Racist jokes can be done purely in jest or to make fun of sterotypes despite what your friends on the far left tell you

>>68259599
>there are so much alt right on /mu/ these days its bananas
If you seriously believe the "alt-right" makes up the majority of /mu/, you are insane. More like it's more than 0% now so there are actual opposing opinions

this board worships Kendrick Lamar and Death Grips, they are leftist as fuck

>>68259715
>>68259718
how do you explain the existence of this thread then
checkmate, conservatives

>>68259748
Its a critique of the identity politics the critic is appealing to. Yes this thread is stupid, but you must be fucking retarded to think you can determine someones polical alignment based on one opinion they have. This is why collectivist politics are cancer
>oh, you think x opinion? Youre clearly a fithy alr righter!

>>68259323
nonsense. I'm an oldfag.

4chan was always kind of chaotic neutral but if anything would have been incredibly offensive to progressives because it was always making jew and black jokes. it was hard to tell if it was genuine or not, sometimes yes, othertimes probably just shitposting. either way, it was beyond the pale of what is acceptable to leftists.

>>68259379
complete bullshit, you weren't here obviously but take a gander at posts from the old days and you'd probably find 4chan even more offensive then than it is today. it may be more sincere in its reactionary streak now, but it's also much more decent and reasonable at times (seriously - compared to before...)

>>68259718
/mu/ aren't leftist, they're more neutral

I'm basically neutral too. neutral people can be very critical of PC culture though, and the current state of the left overall. in that way, you'd probably read a lot of their responses to that Solange review for instance as 'alt right' responses. yes, they probably DO agree with the alt right on such things, but they also listen to Death Grips (which again is more chaotic neutral). this doesn't make them leftist.

I listen to a lot of black music, but not because they're black and because I support or give a fuck about some righteous black narrative. I like it because it's good music.

>>68259987
>but they also listen to Death Grips (which again is more chaotic neutral)
...k.

>thinking tumblr leftists like >>68258048 are insane and not supporting identity politics makes you an alt-right kkk nazi now

Fuck outta here m8. I'm all for equality and socialism (in small doses) but these people are obnoxious.

>>68260061
GO BACK TO /POL/! LOL DO MANY LYNCHINGS TODAY?

>>68258611
wtf I want to be pegged by my SO now

>>68259439
shit maybe if every single pro white movement in the past wasn't anti-every other race

>>68258965
>we don't care that the album itself is about black empowerment,
Yes it is. White people think this album is "anti-white" just because she respects herself and her race. Whites are fucking triggered

>the issue is it seems like they're rating it so highly just because it's about black empowerment rather than the musical content.

It's not a bad album. It's not the new Miseducation of Lauryn Hill or Voodoo, but this album still displays soul, smooth, and good story telling. Solange deserve that rating.

>>68259405
>but racial slurs and other general edgy nonsense use to be much more prominent.
because everyone on 4chan at the time was 14

>>68258275
>writing about how good music is
>objective

>>68260269
>implying there are no objective merits to music making

>>68260215
>White people think this album is "anti-white" just because she respects herself and her race. Whites are fucking triggered
Who? Give one example besides OP. I think its racist to make giant sweeping generalization about an entire race like that

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>>68258048

>>68260294
Ok well do you see any ""objective"" discussions in this thread? White guilt lefties are at least talking about the album

>>68260334
Is that danny devito?

>>68260215
I'm going to listen to the album to see if I like it musically. I'm perfectly open to it being good, tend to like a lot of black artists, and I'll be totally honest if it's good, even if I think critics rate it too much for irrelevant political reasons.

I gave Beyonce's Lemonade a similar shot. I found that mediocre, and all the praise, so much based in political reasons and empowerment, started to get annoying. identity politics should be kept out of music and artistic assessment as far as quality of its impact.

I don't even care if people have pride or love of their own. I kind of think they should - it results in vibrant, distinct cultures, in interesting differences and different places to visit. but it doesn't make me rate their art any more or less.

>>68260215
>Yes it is. White people think this album is "anti-white" just because she respects herself and her race.
no I just think the inflation of scores for black music is embarrassing and feels like cultural reparations. a consolation prize for not being able to do anything other than "being black and empowered." it's infantilizing

>>68260379
>it's infantilizing

THIIISSS! it's CONDESCENDING.

GOOD FOR YEEWWWW, BLACK PERSON!

HAVE A TROPHY!

>>68260411
I think thats kind of a straw man. I think she was give bnm for acrticuetly expressing black female problems through music, not simply because shes black.

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i love neo soul/r&b but hate the politics/blm garbage
sucks bros

>>68260358
I'd say it's more better than lemonade. Beyoncé album was a pop record.

>>68260379
>>68260411
How is expressing how you feel about being descriminated against with music demanding "reperations"? Why would this album scream "give me high ranking and awards " to you?

>>68260493
whatever dude. I've stopped listening to highly rated black music if it's rated by tmt or pitchfork because it's uniformly mediocre shit

>>68260554
I never said that the music is demanding reparations. it's the reviewers who've realized that they can use their platform for a "good cause" and have found a way to pay cultural reparations. it's disingenuous

>>68260554
it's the critic culture that is doing that on their end, as for your second comments there.

it's a culture of white and jewish nerds who never live around or engage with black people going out of their way to constantly talk up black issues because they were taught to in university and it makes them feel righteous and superior, and a lot of mediocre art gets overrated as a result, while a lot of better black music isn't being praised for anything beyond "isn't it great that this is good and THEY'RE BLACK?!!"

>>68260641
This.

Atrocity Exhibition was vastly superior to this album, yet no bnm. Why? Because Danny didnt talk about "black issues" on it

>>68260619
>I never said that the music is demanding reparations. it's the reviewers who've realized that they can use their platform for a "good cause" and have found a way to pay cultural reparations. it's disingenuous

Hmm...you may have a point there actually. I do notice a lot of media tend to ass kiss to anything non-white just for them to look like they're "caring" or whatever, but I don't pay too much in p4k. Maybe the reviewer actually liked the album. Is that not also possible? Again, this isn't a bad album.

>>68260725
I have no problems with black music or musicians but I mostly go by reviews from other places than tmt or pitchfork in that case. I have no interest in pretending that beyonce is some vanguard artist

>>68260725
>Is that not also possible?
Definitely not considering she's a breathing stereotype.
>>68258048

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>one of the tracks is literally called "Dont Touch my Hair"
Holy shit. Cant make this stuff up folks

>>68258611
where is Zoe

>>68258611
Evan Minsker is a somewhat skinnier Action Bronson

>>68260683
atrocity exhibition got BNM

>>68260820
Her name wasn't on the masthead

>tfw when Blackstar gets an 8.5

>>68260871
before his death

>>68260812
What's wrong with calling a track that?

>>68260812
>judging an album on the song titles and not the strength of the songwriting and production

Pleb af desu senpai

>>68261055
she's trying to pick a fight. create an issue where there isn't one.

nobody is trying to touch her hair.

>>68261055
Bro the song is literally about "muh cultural appropriation"

Dont you know? Only black people are allowed to have dread locks

>>68261067
Im listening to it now, the production is good, but the lyrics and message are so god damn stupid I dont think I can look past them

Political discussion on 4chan is always some of the dumbest and most repetitive shit ever.

>>68261067
Not him but if you aren't even creative enough to come up with good song titles why should I believe your songwriting is any better?

>>68260503
this dude, fucking D'ANGELO of all people had to turn his legendary comeback into a goddamn black power civil-rights-zeitgeist thing

now blood orange and solange both go and release completely half-baked, overlong, meandering and mediocre attempts at some kind of new neo-soul pastiche structured solely around interview quotes about blackness and the BLM narrative (not to even mention whatever the fuck """statement""" lemonade was supposed to be)

at least kendrick had kind of an interesting perspective with TPAB but of course that got robbed of any nuance by the people reviewing and pushing it

the chick on solange's record wants to know why "black pride" movements or whatever get labeled anti-white? because of shit like pitchfork's end-of-the-year writeup on TPAB boiling the entire (actually pretty self-reflective) perspective of the album down to "white people need to sit down and shut up"

make soul great again, goddamnit

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>>68260812
>I Got So Much Magic, You Can’t Have It
>Don’t Wish Me Well
>The Chosen Ones
>For Us By Us

>>68260812
>Don't touch my hair
>Don't touch my soul
>Don't touch my CROWN

WE WAS KWEENZ & SHIT

>>68261116
it's on point actually. people are simply observing that some mediocre albums might be getting overrated due to critics feeling compelled to do so for extra-music-related reasons.

and then some self-retarding-'reasonable' posters come in and imply they're racist for daring to suggest that criticism might become better than that.

>>68258611
Is it a requirement to be a faggot to write about music or somethin

>>68259405
there's a huge difference between being an edgelord typing nigger nigger nigger nigger and getting actually butthurt from BLM

>>68261332
Yah, one is just being an edgelord and the other is being rational

>>68261078
>>68261083

>nobody is trying to touch her hair.

Black dude here. When I went to college and git dreads, people always wanted to touch or pet my hair. That song has meaning.

>>68261368
WOW how utterly RACIST and PROBLEMATIC of them

>>68261368
Then let them you fucking facist

>>68261368
I patted a black kid's afro in 6th grade.. my baadddd dude

>>68261138
Your whole post is all kinds of autism.

>>68261116

Political discussion is almost always the dumbest and most repetitive shit regardless of where you find it.

>>68261332
>butthurt from BLM

there are a lot of very legitimate criticisms of BLM

like how they go rampaging around colleges unreasonably demanding teachers get replaced merely for being white, demand 'safe spaces', their own dorms, etc. they're absurd.

BLM marched down my street once and literally set fire to the Radioshack just the corner down from me, and when some old white hippie guy tried to stop some of the young ones from looting, a young black guy cracked his skull with a hammer. later, when the movement around here was discussing how they might consider not condoning violence, the activists ended up agreeing that something something THE SYSTEM and therefore DIVERSITY OF TACTICS and therefore they're not going to condemn violence.

man FUCK THEM.

>>68255868
>she's black so it's good
Fuck nignog music and fuck white people who want to pretend like black people aren't the most privileged group in America

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>>68261400
>any sort of rational analysis is autism
>much better to shitpost instead

>>68261378
>>68261387
>>68261398
You shouldn't touch people's body without permission.

Who am I kidding, this is the same board that believes their entitled to grope a girl at a concert.

>>68261138
Can you name some good soul disconnected from "blackness"?. I actually agree with the sentiments of the OP, albums shouldn't be rated higher just because they touch on a pernient issue. The music should be there to solidify and push the message and it should be good to listen to. I'm white and I have no problem listening to music by black people talking about black issues. I don't listen to music by people who live exactly like me all the time.

I don't see how this review is anti white at all.

At the end of the day you can listen to what you want but the more you try and dictate what artists write/sing/perform about you are just trying to whitewash something that never needed to be reduced for your convenience anyway

Not everything has to fit your view of the world. Or if thats how you want to live you can ignore it and leave. Theres millions of other records you can enjoy

>>68261138
D'Angelo's album was fucking great tho.

Anyway, mixing politics and music is fucking gay and you shouldn't get butthurt about it, right or left. There was some thread earlier /r/ing "conservative punk bands." Are you a fucking retard or something? Art consumption is about expanding your horizons. You seriously can't enjoy a piece of music because it isn't jacking you off politically? You should be able to enjoy it (if it's good) even if it is fucking your beliefs in the ass :)

>>68261368
People always asked to touch (or didn't even ask and just went ahead and touched) my hair because it looked so soft, and i was a shy proto-autist in school and made me uncomfortable as fuck, don't really see how it was an issue

>>68261431
>equating someone touching your hair to being groped without permission
Wow.

Sure they shouldnt touch your hair w/o permission, but seriously gtfo it. Tell them not to do that then move on with your day. This reminds me of kindergarten

>TEACHER HE TOUCHED MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>>68261457
Exactly. What I was trying to get at here

>>68261437

People want to be spoonfed everything sanitised for them

>>68261472
Thats your hair. If you want people to touch it, whatever . Certain white people act as if black hair is weird or spontaneous they feel the need to touch it like it's a new dog. Especially for black girls, you can't really touch their hair or else you'll mess it up.

>>68261472
kids are kids. they're fascinated by things different. your hair is going to be interesting to them. that's how it is. if you went to a majority black school, the kids would be just as fascinated by the white kids' hair.

I went to a vast majority Mexican school, as a blonde haired blue eyed boy from the midwest. they literally responded to me like I was this pretty girl and would literally grope and molest me in the locker room, try to reach in my pants, make kissing noises at me, because I was this exotic 'pretty blonde' to them. I had it much worse than you.

>>68261457
Most early punk has lots of edgy ironic racism though
>Patti Smith and James Chance calling black people inferior in interviews
>Sex Pistols with Nazi imagery and an anti-abortion song
>Master Race Rock
>the black rhythm guitarist from Richard Hell and the Voidoids was harassed incessantly at the CBGB, literally all of the punks were openly racist at the time

>>68261536
>Certain white people act as if black hair is weird
Because it is strange to them. Not saying they should touch it without permission, but if you honestly think youre entitled to not have people think your hair is strange is or new to them then kindly fuck right off

>>68261487
>How dare you tell me I make you feel uncomfortable?

>I'm going to tell you how to feel now!

Just don't touch people.

>>68261588
just stop man, you've obviously just come here from reddit and facebook

>>68261588
>How dare you tell me I make you feel uncomfortable?
Epic strawman, didnt say anything even close to that. And what did I tell you to feel? I only told you to deal with your problems like an adult

>>68261576
>but if you honestly think youre entitled to not have people think your hair is strange is or new to them then kindly fuck right off

I'm not saying it's wrong. But it's better to ask questions than just diving in and touch people's hair. Like anything, you ask out of curiosity and maybe you could ask to touch. If they say no, don't take it personally.

>>68261570
Can you link to Patii Smith interviews?

>>68261623
>And what did I tell you to feel? I only told you to deal with your problems like an adult

Alot of adults I know will tell a person to stop being a faggot and stop doing something they don't like. It's being assertive. Doesn't matter if you get triggered if someone says "stop touching me, you fucking faggot ".

>>68261649
You have to understand that some cultures are more touchy and have different rules about personal space than others. You cant simply expect people who are raised in a more interpersonal touchy culture to simply know and conform to your rules

Why do black people always get the same reviews from p4k
>album tells us the harrowing, stunning story of growing up black. This third musically adventurous project from rapper/singer xyz is his finest yet, exploring themes such as love, sex, racism, family, joy, sadness, and racism reveals what goes on behind the curtains of white society
>9.2 BNM

>>68261721
"Dont touch me faggot" is not behaving like an adult

Protip: not all people of adult age behave like adults

>>68261724
Because this is your review staff
>>68258611

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>fucking SJWs am I right

>>68261724
Camp
1.6

Its not every black artist. But they definitely give higher scores to people who fit their corporate image.

What you said is like saying Why do white indie bands get the same reviews from p4k? They don't. Some are their pet artists though. They've always been like that.

Can you consider that a black artist can have music encompassing all these things and still release a good album?

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>god I fucking hate liberals

fuck this pandering bullshit and give honest reviews, p4k

>>68261543
>they literally responded to me like I was this pretty girl and would literally grope and molest me in the locker room, try to reach in my pants, make kissing noises at me, because I was this exotic 'pretty blonde' to them. I had it much worse than you.

Nigga that shit sounds amazing.

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>>68261809
Stop samefagging. No ones impressed by your strawman

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>get a load of these libcucks

>>68261843
wew. and I thought people saying "kek" in real life was bad.

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>it's all an SJW conspiracy!

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>>68261873
I wonder whos behind this

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>no one acknowledges my struggle as a white man

>>68261809
>>68261826
>>68261843

I think this is one of the most annoying things about SJWs and /pol/ tards. Anyone who doesn't agree with them is obviously a retard on the other side, or is shitposting.

Like they assume that they are OBVIOUSLY right by default, and only a RETARD, or someone trolling could disagree.

Can't be that I could be wrong, oh shit, no.

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>>68261873
w2c that shirt?

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>>68261895
rare based samefag

>>68261911
You realise you're doing the same thing right?

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>>68261826
Oh we're doing this?

>>68261935
No hes literally not

>>68261937
Dude she has a disability

>>68261935
Not really. This person is samefagging, and just posting pictures of pro-Trump memers with meme text.

There's no argument, or statement, or anything.

>>68261961
I find this highly PROBLEMATIC

>>68261954
>/pol/tards
>SJW

these other people man, they just do the bad thing

>>68261961
Yeah it's called leftism.

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>Man fuck my racist white parents I hope they die. Old people shouldn't be allowed to vote.

>>68261873
fuck off CTR shill

>tfw it won't because it's a bot

>>68262045
i know too many people who are unironically like this. especially people my age group who are in the local music scenes

>>68262001
No its not. Theres clearly people who are to the far left and far right and hes just pointing out how many memes and nonarguments they use. How is making an articulate point about extremeism the same as these extremeists who shut out every idea that disagrees with them?

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>>68262086
>there are actual /pol/tards on /mu/ right now

>>68262115
let's test this thing

aghjdagsvhjasdbhjadsvbdhsvfdshvdsahjvahsabhjbsavbnvsajhmvsfhvasfjhvfhjgajhsabhjasvhsdgvfhjbvfhjfbvjhsabvhgsavhjasbhsavsahjsavashvajgvajh

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT

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I'll just leave this here

>>68261368
I remember a black girl touching my hair when I buzzed it short and I didn't think it was racist at the time, but maybe she is. Fat bitch.

>>68261811
>childish gambino
>black artist

>>68262115
It s been a while already since this board is flooded with /pol/tards. Don't know if they actually visit /mu/ regularly or just wait to strike on the right thread t b h.

>>68262186
You know, there exist people, right now, on /mu/, who disagree with you. They have opinions, just like you, but you want to attribute them to "muh /pol/ flooding boogeyman" instead of realizing that 4chan boards consist of heterogeneous groups of people who will never, ever agree with each other.

>>68262186
You are literally fucking delusional if you think /pol/ sits around looking at /mu/ waiting for threads to invade

Jesus christ

>>68262186
Liking music doesn't automatically mean you have to be a liberal pham. You can be conservative and enjoy music.

I listen to artists of different ideologies than mine because I don't give a fuck as long as the music's good. This album isn't good and it's too preachy. It's cool to sing about political issues, but this album just beats you over the head with it. It'd help if the music wasn't boring.

>>68262099
How is that articulate at all? He's just saying people from a 4chan board or a general group of people who could be anything from an authoritan pc person to someone who is not racist and saying these things these guys do. Nobody said anything about the far left or the far right. Yes its polarised and really stupid. But it doesn't exactly achieve anything by saying you are neutral or central and everyone who isn't simply isn't able to talk rationally.
That said, this thread isn't really supportive of my point. All I'm saying is its smugness all around and I'm no exception but him saying these people just generalise while generalising a lot of people seems hypocritcal

This is the top thread on /mu/ right now.

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>mods let a race bait thread stay up past 200 posts

>>68261769
>"Dont touch me faggot" is not behaving like an adult

2 things of being an adult

1. Learn how to be responsible

2. Don't give a shit what others think

Being sn adult ain't always nice. Stop demanding people to pamper you.

>>68262264
>Nobody said anything about the far left or the far right.
/pol/tard and sjw are terms reserved to describe people who are irrational and unmovable in their views. He never said hes neutral, he only critisized people who dont want to have an actual debate or make actual points. And since he was making a point, I cant see how hes comparable to these memers:

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>>68262355
Why can't you have this attitude towards the music? I doubt Solange could give a fuck what you think about her song title. Maybe people like singing about personal issues that affect them?

>>68262355
Making up definitions for words is fun. And yes being adut is responsive, but its also in your choices, calling someone a faggot is not very adult. Its juvinile as fuck

>>68262355
>I have no responsibility for the words that come out of my mouth!
>just be an adult and let me say whatever I want to you! But if you react poorly thats not adult!

>>68262224
Y keep projecting, there s a very clear difference between being a normal conservative guy and a /pol/tard.

>>68262459
Why do people like you, who can't handle people having views that fall outside of the CNN status quo, even go on this website? If you hate people who have different opinions than you, why aren't you on reddit or tumblr?

I bet you call anyone who doesn't like /mu/core "contrarians" and "trolls" too

>>68262389
Yeah I get your point. Its better then the memes. But I just can't get behind a post that starts with "the thing about these (insert any opposing group) is they always generalise the other side. While generalising everyone at the same time. I agree with the sentiment to a degree. Anything of a political nature on this board is going to devolve into memes but it wouldn't be complete without someone playing the part of the rational person in the center even without providing any political discussion themselves

>>68262264

this:

>>68262389

I'm not talking about people who can have rational discussions. I'm talking about two groups of people who are so comfortable in their smug self-satisfaction that they literally think that they are right about everything all the time, and have figured out how to "see through the lies" or some shit.

>>68262045
I know a dude who I really like and is a great musician but he's completely like this
constantly posting pro-BLM and #refugeeswelcome and whatever else stuff with edgy commentary like
"if this offends any of you fucking redneck racists, GOOD"

>>68261937
>>68261826
can we just agree we're all terrible people and kill ourselves

/mu/'s response to a soft, funky, smart protest album is "Here's why it's actually OK to touch a black person's hair"

>>68261264
yes

>>68262534
There's no discussion to be had, that's the point. It's literally just meming. There's no argument, there's literally nothing. Nothing to discuss, nothing to debate, because nobody's said anything worth discussing.

Like, the discussion was happening in the posts before some autist decided it would cute to post trump pictures and meme text. I'm not talking about "pro-Trump people" and I'm not talking about "liberals" and I'm not generalizing them I'm talking about two very specific, groups of people, who can be identified by the type of behavior I'm describing.

I'm not even saying I'm neutral. I have an opinion, and some of it leans to one side, some to the other, but there's no point in having that discussion with these people, because there's no in-between for them. Either you agree with them, or you're the enemy. You can't disagree with one aspect, or not fully agree.

>>68261368
Half black here, random girls wanna touch my hair all the time.

Quit being such a prissy bitch.

>>68262503
Once again, you keep projecting hardcore. I can tolerate right-sided opinions, of course. I would probably fall a little bit left on the political spectrum, but im not a retard who can never see merit on a conservative opinión. If i was that close-minded as you imply, i wouldn't visit 4chan, cause there s no point.

>>68262725
I think the point is that it's a protest album that seems to be protesting some of the most trivial things that a person could get upset over.

Like it's being lauded as a musical version of Martin Luther King Jr.'s famous speech or some shit, but in reality it's just someone complaining about something very trivial, and placing the blame on racism to seem relevant, and poignant.

>>68262842
This. Tell people not to touch you without permission, remind yourself that other people in the world are starving, diseased, being killed, etc, and realize what incredible non problems you have

wtf I hate people now

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>>68262552
Yeah I agree. I just can't help but feel that position is one of self satisfaction as well. Not really in terms of being on a side and opposing the other side but rather being defined by being disconnected or opposed to both sides, being rational rather than unrational. But I fall into this category as well so I don't even no why I'm arguing, I'm pretty tired to be honest. I just think its impossible to reason with memes. Its like screaming into the void.

>>68262762
I get where your coming from. I think the conversation wasn't really great from the get go but I agree its frustrating to see it turn into two people memeing at each other. Thats a good point about the no inbetween it just seems almost obtuse to point it out. But then again I'm doing the same thing I'm complaining about.
I think at the end of the day politics doesn't belong on mu unless its within context of an album/song/artist or movement/genre. I don't think free speech should be stifled at all, I think it would be better if the discussion was about the songs themselves and not just the song title
or Pitchforks political agenda

I'm going to catch some Zs I'm probably making no sense at all

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https://streamable.com/zlpk

>>68262959
I got tagged! This whole thing is fucking stupid. Just enjoy music you want to listen to who gives a fuck about Pitchfork

>>68262959
please don't share your opinion with me online it doesn't matter

>>68262884
I'm preeeeeeeetty sure many white people have written political and personal albums without having to say "whoa, whoa, senpais, also genocide exists"

just because there are technically bigger problems than entitled white mouth-breathers thinking they can pet every black person like a dog doesn't mean it's not actually a problem someone can write a song about.

>>68262959
cringe

>>68263120
If a white person wrote about something as mundane as their hair being touched, Id hate it just as much. Pleanty of white people have made songs about non problems, and I dont listen to them either.

>entitled white mouth breathers
You realize that in some cultures its considered more appropriate to do things like touch hair right? It doesnt make it ok, but its not because theyre "entitled". And white people arent the only ones who do innapropriate touching

Are people actually defending touching strangers without permission? what the fuck

>>68263343
I wish people could interact with each other but also leave each other the fuck alone where it should be obvious.

>>68263373
No, you just have 0 reading comprehension

>>68263384
>being this ethnocentric

>>68263384
Obvious to you isnt obvious to everyone

>>68263404
That's not being ethnocentric.

>>68263412
Yeah, I know I'm imagining a fairy tale world.

>>68263487
>assuming your norms (provided by the culture you reside within) are the correct norms by which people in general should abide
>not being ethnocentric

>>68263520
>>assuming your norms (provided by the culture you reside within)
Yes, but those norms are not provided by the culture I reside in. So how is that being ethnocentric?

Reminder that the music /mu/ is getting triggered so hard by sounds like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0qrinhNnOM

>>68263487
You are being ethnocenteic becauase you think "obvious" is a universal thing when in reality its relative to your culture. Whats "obvious" to one culture isnt even on the radar of another. I interacted with some asian tourists the other day and they repeatedly grabbed my arm for my attention and stood so close they were touching me. What if i told them
>hey! Isnt it obvious you shouldnt be touching me right now?
Its shows a complete lack of awareness for other cultural norms and theirs a proper way to deal with it

>>68263543
>not seeing how yr culture has informed yr understandings of social convention
>attempting to dismiss ethnocentrism

>>68263543
>Yes, but those norms are not provided by the culture I reside in
Yes they are? Are you honestly implying theyre somehow universal? Because thats about as ethnocentric as it gets

>>68262310
I know it's beautiful isn't it

>>68258522
women are more emotional than men
that is a fact
there's a reason for it

I dont know about the critics part, I mean I agree
women tend to be less subjective
but compared to what, men?

I dont know, personally I had experiences with women that led me to believe that they act too subjectively sometimes
like my psychiatrist who got angry at me and scolded me in an inmature way
I see the same behavior in my mom, my sister, and most women that argue with me

>>68263572
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>>68263598
How? I'm sorry, have you been to Nigeria? I don't see how this culture has impacted my "understandings of social convention". And no, I am not "implying theyre somehow universal" but rather wishing others, especially those around me here, could understand like I do.

>>68263373
No, they're debating the appropriate reaction when someone does it

>>68263592
>yr culture has informed yr understandings of social convention
Also, by that logic you are calling the internet my culture.

>>68263722
>understand
>I am not "implying theyre somehow universal"


Also what does Nigeria have to do with anything? What is your understanding of the term "ethnocentric"? Maybe we're just on a different wavelength here.

>>68255868
This is a ridiculous score. Pitchfork is such a joke

>>68263753
Yes, that is a correct use of culture. Microcultures as well as macro are equally valid and important.

Who/where are these rabid white people petting black peoples heads? I've never seen or heard of this ever lmao.

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>>68263783
I still do not understand how I was being ethnocentric. My original post said:

>I wish people could interact with each other but also leave each other the fuck alone where it should be obvious.
>wish people could
>"wish"

I never said I think they are that way nor have I dismissed the facets of other cultures that prevent them from being that way. I guess I shouldn't have said "where it should be obvious" but rather that I also wish those ideals could be obvious.

>>68263722
>I'm sorry, have you been to Nigeria?
No, how is that relevant?

You're missing the entire point. You think it should be "obvious" that touching is innapropriate, yet fail to relaize in some cultures it is. Obvious is a subjective term youre using objectievly to patronize people with different cultural norms than you

>>68263868
>You think it should be "obvious" that touching is innapropriate, yet fail to relaize in some cultures it is. Obvious is a subjective term youre using objectievly to patronize people with different cultural norms than you

----> >>68263856

>>68255868
Fucking man face

>>68262954
It's cool man, sleep deprivation hits us all pretty hard.

>>68263856
>I wish my ideals were obvious to everyone and the world revolved around them
>not ethnicentric
Sigh...

>>68258301
nice fallacy
>>68258318
nice reply

women are more emotional than men, try arguing they arent
instead of using fallacies or insults

>>68263941
Someone seriously explain it to me then. Why is it being ethnocentric to be idealistic? Also, you're twisting what I said. By ideals I mean something like not raping people or maiming them, which I do wish the world could "revolve around". However, I do realize that idealism is still idealism. I understand other cultures are different and that I should not judge them according to my own understanding but I don't think that self aware idealism is ethnocentrism.

Solange: This lady at the Kraftwerk show told me to stay in place. Here's an album about how America does that all the time.

/mu/: That's not true at all, you should really stay in your place

>>68263941
cancer

>>68264056
Ok, last response buddy.

Its ethnocenteic because you dont get to decide whats "ideal" for everyone. Every culture, hell every indivdual, has different values and understandings about what's ideal. You dont speak for everyone, your beliefs are not universal

>>68264130
Define what "stay in place" is and quote the posts in this thread that did that

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>>68263893
>you will never prove me wrong cus im right
>im right because im the good guy and you are racist
>lalalalala

you are a shit person

>>68264147
>Ok, last response buddy.
>im not giving up, i just dont have time to deal with you

you make the world a worse place

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>>68264198
Not one person, and that has to be the worst non argument Ive ever heard.

>>68264220
Oh boy you shut him down. Those were some hot points you presented there

>>68264198
You seem very confused anon. You think those are the same person when in fact you quoted both opposing sides of the argument. I dont think you have any idea whats going on

>>68264224
that has to be the worst non argument Ive ever heard
>>68264244
kys cancer

>>68264303
Calling out a non argument for being a non argument is an argument actually.

>>68264286
I dont
im angry and I hate this person/people although im not sure who is on what side
I got confused reading the whole thread of comments

>>68264147
But I never said or at least meant to imply in anything that I have posted that that my beliefs are universal. However, I do WISH that certain human rights ideals could be universal but understand there are differences in other cultures that that cause them not to be. If merely wishing a culture could have the ability to have the ideal of not raping women and affording them human rights is being ethnocentric then you are not reading what I am saying to you. You are reading it as if I am judging that culture and assuming they know everything about my culture.

Also, >>68264198, >>68264220, >>68264286, >>68264303 is not me.

wtf? i love trips now

>>68264130
Solange: I'm an oppressed baby with no sense of personal responsibility. Yeah I'm fabulously wealthy and famous, but I've been microagressed before so it isn't all sunshine and lollipops. Pity me and give me good reviews because you agree with my politics, not because I make good music (because I'm too dumb and reliant on actual musicians to do that)

/mu/: You are a multimillionaire celebrity who is more privileged than 99% of all people on the planet, whites included. Your entire career is a product of nepotism and charity. You have never worked for anything in your mediocre life, which is probably why your art is so terrible to anybody with an triple-digit IQ. It is a disservice to intelligent and talented people when you pretend to be intelligent and talented. Kys

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Cool

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>>68264332
waaa waaa wa

>>68259201

you tried to make a point but you just babbled it like a baby and then said dismissing black empowerment is something only conservatives do

good job retard

>>68264319
Once again, not me.

>>68264317
yeah? well, you are stupid

by that I mean, you will never admit you are wrong becuase you are sure you are doing the right thing
like when people defend black lives matter although they are bad people

>>68261368
Oh you poor fucking baby

>>68264385
He didnt say anything at all about black empowerment or conservatives. Where the fuck do you retards come from?

>>68264286
>>68264386
this isnt me

>>68264406
Wtf are you rambling about? Im wrong because I think Im right? Doesnt everyone in an argument think theyre right?

>>68261368
white dude here
I got dreads, people always touched them. no one asked if they could
they just assumed I was ok with it, I was.
why wouldnt I?
I dont have autism (inb4 yes u do xD ebin burn) and Im not so deluded that I believe people touching me is racist

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>>68264406
>>68264439
Please stop pretending to be me. Regardless, my writing style has already been established so just stop. Also, the original post is mine as you can see in pic related.

>>68261368
>consciously choose an ugly and ridiculous hairstyle that deliberately invites as much attention as possible
>"wtf stop giving me attention you silly white people!"
Blacks are like a race of children.

>>68264430

the post he was talking to was about people making fun of black empowerment in regards to /pol/

guy replied saying sarcastically "anyone who isnt liberal is from pol" implying anyone who disagrees with presumably black empowerment is conservative

learn how to read jesus christ

>>68262898
Me too thanks

>>68264523
Why are you putting the blame on black people?

>>68264472
no retard
im making a point
I didnt read your comments, I dont know who the fuck you are

did you see donnie darko? remember the line of good and evil?
well, because you think you are right and good and someone doesnt agree with you, that doesnt mean they are bad and wrong. you cant deny every argument someone said because you dont like that person
thats how debates work, otherwise you are both wrong

>>68264562
Because blacks have a serious problem with attention seeking behavior, more so than other races

>>68258585
Because every time it's happened it ends up in riots and genocide followed by mass starvation.

Also go fuck a nigger mugi, I know you're not Ritsu.

>>68264518
this isnt me I think

>>68264539
No, the post he replied to said
>/mu/ is turning more into /pol/ every day

Again, nothing to do with black empowerment

learn how to read jesus christ

>>68264623
k

>>68264625
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reminder to the racists

WHAT DO WE WANT?
DEAD COPS
WHEN DO WE WANT IT?
NOW

>>68264604
Where did good and evil ever come into play? Find me one spot where anyone mentioned good or evil or where anyone said anything personal about liking someone.

>>68255907
Lol good one

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>307 replies because of a review with the words "black womanhood"

You guys are autistic.

>>68264663
I dont know because I didnt read what you said anon

Im trying to say accept the fact that you could be wrong and someone that disagrees with you could be right
see how you keep arguing? you think im against you, im not I swear

I have no idea what im doing but you are proving me right
be more objective, take it as an advice

>>68258123
is it really true?

delet thsi

>>68258318
great now tumblr has invaded the post with their shitty comebacks that they smugly think are the best thing since sliced bread when they're SOOOO out of touch and off the mark...

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>>68264644
who is this?

>>68264737
>Im trying to say accept the fact that you could be wrong and someone that disagrees with you could be right
Okay, and does this not apply to the guy I was arguing with? Because you didnt direct any of this at him.

>I have no idea what im doing
>I didnt read the argument
Clearly. You just took some random opputunity to try and be philisophical because of something you learned from Donnie Darko even though its of no relevance and has literally no application to the conversation that proceeded your post

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>>68264699
>I dont have anything to offet to this sensible subject because im dumb
>therefore im smarter than you autists

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>>68264523

hmmmm

>>68264910
>white people
>maybe 1/10000 have liberty spikes

>black people
>almost 1/10 have dread locks

What backwater piss puddle town do you live in where dreadlocks are "attention seeking" and not just "hair"

>>68264809
me. I'm this poster >>68264518.

>>68265011
Probably one with decent graduation rates and where the father usually still lives in the household

>>68264816
wow you are very blind anon, I can guide you to the light. watch donnie darko, things will make sense

I love how I meant no harm yet you keep insulting me
you are a sensitive person, you take critics personally
you would make a terrible critic because of how biased your opionion is

>Okay, and does this not apply to the guy I was arguing with? Because you didnt direct any of this at him.
I think he is less wrong than you are, it applies to everyone

I can read your mind anon
>who does he think he is, telling people what to do
in a better world people would be less subjective in some aspects and accept when they are wrong and move on
thats a fact, who cares who am I. im not wrong when I say that

you want to fight, you cant control your urges
this is what I mean, you are deluded
I was making a long shot when in my first post but youve proven me right
you are inmature. this is not an insult, this is an opinion based on my perception of you

I dont trust your opionions and I dont think anyone else should, or your opinions on these kinds of matters at least
I hope no one hears them because they do more harm than good

>>68265059
Yes, the American school system should def be held as a standard of non-biased behavior from the top down.

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>>68265032
>>68264623

this is not me

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>>68258275
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>>68258341
>>68258321

choke on your redpill and die faggots

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>>68265032
This thread went down the drain once that one guy pretended to be me.

Also, even if the Solange album was not good (it's good, btw), where were you all crybabies when Pitchfork was giving unjust scores to dickless white people for 10 years.

Solange BNM: OH NOES IDENTITY POLITRICKS

Fleet Foxes BNM: This is fine.

>>68265103
>putting this much effort into trolling
Pitiful

>>68264895
>>68265183
you are so angry it shows
>I get out for two weeks, come back and see this. I can't even.
stay out then

>>68265188
>jew
>browsing /pol/
Lol no

>>68265235
trust my intentions, im trying to make you a favor
om trying to make the world a better place
argue that im not, how would you prove me wrong

>>68265212
Fleet Foxes: intelligent people who know how to play instruments, write interesting lyrics, and organize a song

Solange: unintelligent person who needs about fifty different studio musicians to make her music for her because she's too dumb and untalented to do it herself