how much does Rage Against The Machine hate white people and

>CAPITALISM IS BAD BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO MAKE A LIVING TELLING YOU IT'S BAD

I hate RATM.

>>68239789
>capitalism is bad, m'kay
but it is, faggot

>>68239789
Reminder that left-wingers are the true patriots.

i still lol at the time Tom Morello called himself a black man in an interview

he's a rich kid who went to ivy league school

i like RATM great riffs/songs but they are really full of shit

If they hate white people than why is Timmy C in the band?

>>68240008
Not an argument.

>>68240086
He identifies as a black man

>>68240024
yeah i like his riffs. hes a great rhythm guitarist. but he is the quintessential lefty wacko. hes half black, went to a super expensive school, and majored in political science. then in everything he ever has done, the lyrics are about oppression and hate for the state.
>>68240018
if you mean like in MGS2, then yes, lefties are the patriots

>>68240138
>if you mean like in MGS2
>>>/v/
I'm not suprised the aut-right are also /v/edditors.

I bet you also think that left-wing means more government control, kill yourself.

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>>68240196
>I bet you also think that left-wing means more government control, kill yourself.
>government control

Here's a list of the issues socialist lefty Bernie Sanders ran on:
https://berniesanders.com/issues/

Things like:
>Combating Climate Change to Save the Planet
>A Fair and Humane Immigration Policy
>Racial Justice
>Fighting for Affordable Housing
for example.

lol, I guess he was going to use something other than government to achieve all these things?

>>68240097
Hypocrisy isn't an argument?

>>68239789
There's a white guy in the band.

>>68239789
not much, considering those are the main funding behind their success, eh

>>68240426
>the only way i can criticise something is by never experiencing it!

Surely you can criticise something better if you have actual experience of it?

>>68240388
>there is only one form of left-wing politics

>>68240890
>and that one form is a centrist-conservative american eunuch

is the american inability to understand politics a genetic thing or what

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>>68240015
>>68240018
>>68240097
FILTHY PROLETARIATS GET OFF MY BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>68240890
No, I'm sorry. You don't get to move the goalposts. You wanted to claim "left wing" meant less government control and I provided a factual rebuttal to that claim.

But please feel free to list the ways the left would address these issues outside of governmental intervention that would also lessen governmental control.

>>68241032
I;m not the dude you first replied to. I'm just pointing out how stupid you're being. One form of left-wing government involves more direct control. But then you have anarchism, which is also left-wing and is literally about abolishing any form of organised government. I'm not here to argue about policy. Just point out that you can't broadly say "THE LEFT ALL WANT THIS" when there is a shit load of different view points from the left.

>>68239789
Why does Tom Morello always points at the camera?

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>>68239789
>"They're not real. They're high-def. They have a soundtrack. The parts of those videos that you couldn't fake are edited out. At first, I thought it was edited out by our government so our kids wouldn't be seeing it on the Internet, but no. That's the way those videos came. The knife starts to cut the neck, and then it fades out. There's too much stuff that doesn't look real. They've edited out the parts that would be too hard to fake. We created Jihadi John and ISIS so we can go drop bombs."
What did he mean by this?

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>>68241110
>there is a shit load of different view points from the left
>like anarchism
Oh, I see. You want to point to something that has no legitimate foothold or standing in the society we live in as proof of what the left wants. Hella viewpoints. Gotcha.

a reminder that Tom Morello isn't just a guitarist...he also scored the music in Iron Man 2.

>>68240024
Are you telling me there are no rich black kids in Ivy League schools? lol

>>68241329
No, I'm pointing out that it is indeed a viewpoint from the left. I never said it was the way forward or that we should all praise anarchism, just that it's there. As an example of how varied left thinking can be. Almost as if broadly defined left/right politics are inaccurate and only used by people who don't know anything about politics...

>>68240388
I think he is saying there are right wing platforms that involve more government control.
Ex abortion illegal
Illegal sames ex marriage
Tighter controls on boarders and airport security.

>>68241519
Tight border control should be a given for any country

>>68241623
>he fell for the nation-state meme

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>>68241420
>broadly defined left/right politics are inaccurate
>broadly defined
>i.e. general definitions of left and right politics are inaccurate
lol. Whatever you need to tell yourself, I guess.

>a viewpoint
But, yeah, keep insisting a minuscule handful of voices within literally millions of others is somehow representative of "broad" and "varied left thinking".

>>68241639
>wanting open borders
I bet you couldn't even name a foreign world leader

>>68241687
why would I need to know usurpers by name? they perpetuate the meme you fell for

>>68241755
Okay Gary

>>68241755
Strong par

>>68241685
I am so damn lost at your point right now. So, left thinking isn't broad because not many people believe in communism or anarchy? Broad right/left strokes are actually super accurate because everybody believes the same thing? Or are you just completely lost yourself?

>>68239789
>signs to a major label for their debut...

Yeah... OK guize

By being ethnically ambiguous they get away with more than they should

>>68241870
>I am so damn lost at your point right now.
lol, I just bet you are.
>he's still trying to imply there aren't broad universal generalities concerning left wing political thought in this country
>like the the lefts call for more governmental control for example

>>68242106
>in this country

aaaaa'd it's an "amerimutt forgets he's not the whole world" episode.
again.

>>68242134
aaaaa'd it's an "evasion instead of a rebuttal" again.

>>68239789
I used to think like them and thought I was so cool, until I grew up and realized how retarded some of it is.
>>68240018
kinda/sorta

>>68242173
rebuttal might still be coming, I'm not the guy you were arguing with

I just take every opportunity I can to insult american subhumans

>>68242214
>ad hominem
>rebuttal might still be coming
lol, I'll just bet it is.

>>68241031
allergic to critical thinking eh?

>>68239789
If you think the way we are doing "capitalism" is right, then you're a tard.

>>68242106
Yeah, pretty much what the other guy said. There's a lot of political thought out there and a lot of it doesn't find it's way to mainstream American society. Doesn't mean it isn't there, it is if you decide to actually look into it a bit. Then you'd see that just because you class yourself as left-wing, doesn't mean that there is set guidelines on what you have to believe.

>>68242451
>I bet you also think that left-wing means more government control, kill yourself (>>68240196)
lol
>https://berniesanders.com/issues/
>he's still trying to circumvent the fact that the left has called for more governmental control after I provided factual evidence that they indeed do

>set guidelines
You can try to spin it all you want, "the left believes this, the left believes that", the truth is what it is. The left is majority pro big government (and then even bigger government if they could get away with it). The idea that there's so much "infinite variation" in their ideology that the left can't be pinned down or described is a laughable notion at best.

why does tom morello look like fouseytube

>>68242779
he's not saying it can't be described, he's saying your description of it is wrong. and he's right, considering you somehow seem to think Bernie Fucking Sanders is representative of anything. the only thing he's representative of is americans being idiots

>>68242853
>he's saying your description of it is wrong
>*yawn* and then another ad hominem attack

He can say it all he wants, what he needs to do is prove it.

Provide some evidence the left hasn't called for more big government.

I'll wait right here.

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>not ignoring the politics and enjoying the genuinely good pop songs
feels good to be emotionally detached master race

>>68240097
Are.. are you retarded?
>I hate something, but it's the whole reason I have a successful career.
H Y P O C R I S Y

>>68242944
he's given you a lot of that evidence already, which you have avoided by shifting the goalposts continuously and bringing up bernie sanders multiple times, despite him being entirely irrelevant to this conversation

>>68242965
they're literally the worst buttrock band. linkin park writes better pop songs m8

>>68242853
>Bernie Fucking Sanders is representative of anything. the only thing he's representative of is americans being idiots

How's that?

>>68243005
>he's given you a lot of that evidence already

No, he hasn't. Now provide some evidence the left hasn't called for more big government.

Pro tip: you can't.

>>68243047
because he's an idiot, like all americans are

truly an abject breed

>>68243057
he's provided you with evidence that your definition of "the left" is wrong, which means he DID disprove your statement

>>68240008
Capitalism means private ownership of means of production.

>>68243083
>because he's an idiot

Right. Now why is he an idiot?

>>68243135
It's a genetic trait due to the centuries of race-mixing americans have subjected themselves to.

>>68239789
talentless hacks

>>68243083
So you can't provide any evidence then? Good to know.


FYI this is what the left does, they talk all around an issue instead of addressing the facts or providing a way to them. It's not an agenda designed for getting to the truth, it's an agenda designed to obscure and circumvent it.

>>68243164
Which gene expresses this? Which is the "idiot" gene? How is this expressed in Bernie Sanders?

>>68243208
cucks please leave

>>68243192
I'm not "the left" but nice attempt to get away with exactly what you're accusing it of doing.

>>68243253
Maybe that question was too difficult for you? How about this one: What about Bernie's policies do you disagree with?

>>68243253
>he's provided you with evidence that your definition of "the left" is wrong, which means he DID disprove your statement

No, he provided evidence of minority ideas within the lefts spectrum, he didn't provide any evidence that generally the left is not calling for bigger government because they most certainly are.

He didn't disprove my original claim.

>>68239789
>sony selling communism as just another product
you can't make this shit up

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>>68242246
No he said proletariats specifically, meaning he's a member of the bourgeoisie.

>muh Socialism
You anwsered your own question

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>>68239789
>Implying capitalism isn't bad
Go to bed bourgeois pig

>>68243379
Stop posting that picture

>>68243379
It's bad, but is better than socialism

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>>68243002
>The reason he has a successful career is because the means of production are privately owned
Dam...

>>68240847
Oh so when did they redistribute their wealth in order to get back to their roots as impoverished minorities?

>>68243379
Now replace the boss with a government figure and we get socialism!

>>68243494
I don't think you know what socialism means

>>68243586
I think I do

>>68243586
>a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

It's cute that in your mind "the community as a whole" would actually admit you. The fact that you don't understand "the community" won't include a freeloading "gibs me dat" there "on the take" is hilarious.

>>68243782
>The fact that you don't understand "the community" won't include a freeloading "gibs me dat" there "on the take" is hilarious.
Did that make sense in your head?

>>68243902
>production, distribution, and exchange

So you actually believe you'd be able to own the means production, distribution, and exchange then? Tell me how you'd go about accomplishing that.

>tries to make a point
>sound like an angry 15 year old boy

well done Zack

>>68243953
No, I mean, I don't even understand what you're trying to say. It looks like gibberish.

>>68243999
>No, I mean, I don't even understand
What a shocker.

Friendly reminder that only capitalism is glorious

>>68240018
Quite the opposite.

>>68240997
Sanders is not a centrist-conserative

>>68243586
I don't think you know what socialism turns into
But don't worry, next time it will surely work!

Under socialism you can have all of this:

*You have no freedom or right to control your own destiny. The state tells you where you can live and what jobs you can have.
*Consumer goods are poor quality and in short supply--it can take months to purchase a bicycle, TV set, or coffee table.
*Jobs are mostly assigned based on your status as a member of the proletarian class such as "worker" or "peasant", or because you have connections to some party bigshot.
*If you complain about anything, you go to jail or a labor camp.
*Religion is either banned or strictly controlled by the state.
*You need permission to travel outside the country.
*Food is poor quality and limited in supply--markets often only have a few items on sale. You'd starve to death if capitalist countries didn't sell you surplus grain.
*There are no free elections and government officials do not have to answer to the public.
*All media, art, and entertainment must conform to the state agenda--this includes glorifying the party or the leader and schlocky propaganda art of muscled factory workers while demonizing whatever ideologies/people/countries the party wants demonized.
*The print and electronic media only report whatever news the state wants you to hear while not mentioning what they don't want you to know.
*There is no independent judiciary and you do not have a right to a fair trial or legal representation.
*Hotels and apartments are bugged, so be careful what you say.
*Some cities are "closed" meaning you cannot visit them without official permission

>>68241387
More shit to the pile that piece of garbage was

>>68242965
>genuinely good pop songs
FUCK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME

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Rage Against the Machine [Epic, 1992]

metal for rap-lovers--and opera-haters ("Wake Up," "Know Your Enemy") *

Evil Empire [Epic, 1996]

Three years late, it's the militant rap-metal everybody knew was the next big thing. Zack de la Rocha will never be Linton Kwesi Johnson. But collegiate leftism beats collegiate lots of other things, not to mention high school misogyny, and it takes natural aesthetes like these to pound home such a sledgehammer analysis. A-

The Battle of Los Angeles [Epic, 1999]

If only it promised as much for the future of rock leftism as for the future of rock guitar ("Calm Like a Bomb," "War Within a Breath"). *

Renegades [Epic, 2000] :(

thanks for redpilling the record

>>68241519
>>68240388
Republicans want economic freedom but not personal freedom, Democrats want personal freedom but not economic freedom.

>>68244280
>but not personal freedom
baby killers, degenerate queers, and illegal aliens fuck off

>>68239789
how can RATM hate white people if they are all white

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>>68244374

>baby killers

you mean soldiers ?

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>>68243782
>I'm a lazy greedy asshole
>therefore all community as a whole will be lazy greedy assholes

Sure wonder who could be behind this post.

>>68244424
uhmmm degenerate much? respect our f-cking troops asshole

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>>68244424
>baby killers
>implying both the left and right aren't enthusiastic about killing brown shit all over the world

>>68243586
>>68243726
socialism is the garbage that controlled my country for half a century and made it into a giant prison camp

>>68244520

>implying i ever said anything about left or right

i just called soldiers baby killers because they are

>>68244560
War is hell. Whaddya want?

>>68244590

if war is hell then soldiers are the demons

>>68244456
No, I'm a contributing member of my community. The idea that a socialist community that controls the means of production, distribution, and exchange will be carrying dead weight that doesn't contribute is hilarious.

The idea of "free shit" in your "socialist utopia" is imaginary, you stupid fuckin' nigger.

>>68244632
Deep bruh

>>68244689

not deep just a simple fact anybody can comprehend this

Marxism is a 19th century concept; it was already outdated by the 1920s.

>>68244560
cool. i just called niggers baby killers because they are

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>>68244680

>contributing member of my community
>browses 4chan

>>68244590
To join in on the baby killing

>>68244560
Not always. There's soldiers who fight for the freedom of the people and those who are mercenaries for US/British/Zionist aggression.

>>68244725

good for you

soldiers are still baby killers

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>>68244680
>everyone who disagrees with me is a nigger

What exactly do you contribute aside from eating all the communities tendies anon?

>>68244819

cool

niggers are still baby killers

>>68244737
He contributes shitposts, and he does it for free.

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>>68244737
>>68244850
>anons just got redpilled on what the idea of "community" would actually mean in their "socialist utopias"
>no actual "gibs me dats"
>no free shit
>proceed to lube their shitposts with tears
Nice rebuttals, fellas.

Top notch.

one faggot throwing a retarded puppet show
I'm glad ratm are shit, I'd hate to have every sinlge thread for a good band look like this

>>68244949

good job on sucking your own cock

seriously anyone who unironically says redpilled should be executed

but then again the entire population of people under the age of 18 would be cut in half

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>>68244963
>>68245027

...aaaad this is what it looks like when the left can't actually refute anything you've said in the entire thread.

In real life their eyes get all crazy an' shit for some reason, it's a pretty weird thing to observe.

>>68245091
Nobody thinks you're a real /pol/ user, SRS
False flag agents used to have dignity, this one can't even imagine his opponent using proper English.

>>68245091

>slurp slurp mmm my cock tastes yummy

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>>68245163
>>68245129
>libshits so completely btfo they've resorted to ad hominem and insane conspiracies to explain it

So once again when the left had a chance to present legitimate arguments for their side they couldn't.

The truth has prevailed. Pic related.