/prod/

>shitposting so hard you get a thread pruned
we need to change, /prod/

>>68237652
What fuck happened?, whole time I've been in prod that's never happened

>>68237664
arguments about /pol/ and naked mpc girl picture

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Does anyone have experience with the new generation of Focusrite interfaces? Worth selling an old model for an upgrade?

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mods deleted thread, but to anon asking

Lfo is in envelope mode (0-10v)
planning on using it primarily to trigger and control the 4 cutoffs/levels on the VCF/VCA

>>68237680
/pol/ ruins everything Jesus fucking Christ

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>>68237687
>VCF/VCA

https://clyp.it/53nzr2bn

idk if this is good or not

hows the bass?

I don't know who deleted the last thread but it's for the better.

Let's try again, and forget that the previous one existed.

Also, a new pack of my clyps to let it get started. Would appreciate to know which ones have potential and which ones don't.

>atmospheric
https://clyp.it/amaau2dv

>electric guitar jamming with some strings
https://clyp.it/kcxaidjr

>flute, cello and synth
https://clyp.it/03fbyolj

>"virtuoso" electric guitar
https://clyp.it/5jbftv4w

>baroque
https://clyp.it/w00oiksf

is a ipad any good for production ?

>>68237787
They seem cool, especially with touchOSC
But Apple's business model means that you'll be left with a useless paperweight in a few years that wont run any current apps.

-t. Gen 1 iPad owner

>>68237687
>>68237717
Thanks for the reply anon. Still a bit confused whats generating the noise in that setup?

>>68237863
ah, those aren't for producing sounds. it's essentially just being used as a filter that is automated by the rise and fall of the LFO waves.

The sounds will come from oscillator modules. those sounds will then go into the voltage controlled filter.

i'll post a pic of my system once i get these in the case

Where did shitposters go? Now this thread is dead.

>>68238039
b&

I'm pretty into music but lately I've been really thinking about producing my own.
That said, I'm clueless about the technical aspects of music. I've looked at the sticky but there are 6 different guides for music theory and 6 different guides for MIDI/keyboards/whatever.
Can someone tell me where I should start? Should I just get a keyboard and a DAW and start goofing around and learn as I go?
Sorry for sounding stupid

>>68237787
> is a ipad any good for production ?
Yes,

I still think some of the apps on the iPad are strongly underpriced compared with their pc/mac equivalent.
Some apps I use a lot on my iPad are as follows
>Borderlands. Great granular synth
>Korg iMS20 Gritty as fuck analogue synthesis, absolute steal at £20
>Korg iM1. Fantastic remake of the Korg M1 and for a few extra quid you can get all the expansion cards thrown in too
>Maschine 2. Great little sampler
>iMPC Pro. see above
>TouchOSC. touch controller.
>DM1. Nice drum machine with lots of vintage and classic kits included
>AUFX effects units. Very nice sounding delay and reverb plugins.
>Cubasis.

>>68237825
>But Apple's business model means that you'll be left with a useless paperweight in a few years that wont run any current apps.
It will run the apps that you have for it though? Isn't it just a case of not updating the apps or OS anymore? I think this is the case with most software on any platform really. sooner or later most software companies will discontinue support for their old products

>>68237977
>>68237977
>The sounds will come from oscillator modules. those sounds will then go into the voltage controlled filter.
I figured as much. which is why I asked originally what it was going with. Yes please post the rest of system once together.

>>68238087
nah, still here. Posting on-topic content until someone whines about mundane things.

i fucking hate daws

>>68237825
>caring about updating OS
i still use a gen1 exclusively for lemur/touchosc, not exactly useless

>>68238126
Why tho?

I try to avoid them in live settings and performances, but for production they're pretty ideal.

Wish I could afford to not use one.

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>>68238126
>hardware mustard race

>>68238106
>It will run the apps that you have for it though?
Yes
>Isn't it just a case of not updating the apps or OS anymore?
Basically, you have no choice to, you're stuck with the last update compatible with the last OS you get.
>I think this is the case with most software on any platform really. sooner or later most software companies will discontinue support for their old products
Of course. The issue is the rate at which apple discontinues support of their earlier products.

>>68238138
I still have touchosc as well, and sometimes I bust out the $20 Korg apps I bought, but the thing runs like trash now. It's not useless, just near useless.

It's pretty embarrassing that safari crashes all of the time due to running out of memory.

>>68238106
>Cubasis.
they released cubasis 2 and it looks pretty decent but im too poor for ipad

>>68238181
>safari crashes all of the time
true, that does suck

https://clyp.it/weam4teh
nice let's hope this one turns out better than last thread's no-clyp: let's rate jpegs instead edition

>>68237729
>https://clyp.it/amaau2dv
neat. I'd like it more if the bright bells were in the background more and not as loud. maybe add reverb just to lower the dry. would easily make a decent hip hop track
>https://clyp.it/kcxaidjr
this one has potential

>>68238101
just start practicing your instrument and learning theory

>>68238268
Thanks for the feedback, it's so rare. Btw those are not bells, it's just upper tones on the electric guitar.

Other ones are bad to you or?

>>68238275
Okay, I will do that.
I hate to be obtuse so please excuse me, but say someone would like to create music like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO2LvgjzgmQ
Is the use of a MIDI/keyboard the right way to go about that?

>>68238182
>>68238182
>they released cubasis 2 and it looks pretty decent but im too poor for ipad
Yeah the new one looks good too. A lot of people dismiss the iPad for production but I think personally that IF you have the money to start with then they are a decent way into production. My iPad is a 2nd Gen and I use it quite a bit for soft synths when I'm not in the studio. I'm guessing the new iPads are much more powerful and would be really handy for musicians and producers.

>>68238318
they just weren't genres I feel comfortable judging since I don't really listen to baroque. they aren't necessarily bad, just not my thing

>>68238106
thanks anon

So umm... are any of you good with garageband?

>>68239008
lol no

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>https://soundcloud.com/nrgizer-official/two-birds

judge my taste, style, technique and finesse

>>68238337
sure, just practice/learn the piano until you can play music that sounds like that youtube link, then record that as midi into the computer, then choose/make sounds that you like (you'll need to learn about synthesis and sound design overall if you want to make your own sounds, but it's not very hard, if you're creative) good luck sir, also the song you linked sounds great, it's just one piano chord and another weird instrument, but it is so good

what are the advantages of microphoning a guitar rather than pluging it straight into an interface?

>>68239248
Thank you very much for your input!
A lot of Akira Yamaoka's stuff is very simple, one or two chords, with droning or muted sounds looped over each other to create a feeling of numbness. I love that kind of thing.
I'm not well-versed on the technical aspects but I already take a lot of sound effects I find interesting and modulate them into things I find atmospheric, so I think I have the creativity covered.
Thanks again very much, now I'm set.

hoping to make my work seem more atmospheric. any advice on what I could do to create a wall of noise? just use more complete chords?

>>68239362
Reverberation and slight modulation

>>68239362
you can sort of 'cheat' your way into creating an atmospheric feel by padding your track with soft noise, like in xtal, other than that just try the usual, pan your sounds around, double them up and pan them, have slowly modulating pads playing, chorus and reverbs could also help

>>68237681
delete this

>>68237712
this.
Yeah, it started when an anon was posting Hillary images with their posts.

How much money did you earn with your music, senpaitachi?

Me? $0, but my goal is at least a couple of dozens of millions.

>that fucking new captcha

Sorry for being newfag but what is Alan using in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuPaP6xbQsM

between 0:52-1:05

>>68239573
Akai APC-40

>>68239464
>>68239377
thanks. I think I have an idea that I can experiment with.

what do you mean by slight modulation?

>>68239553
i've earned a few bandcamp dollars

https://clyp.it/zakajfsg

Memes

https://clyp.it/a33j5tci

feedback? just an outline of something I'm working on

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i could kiss this man for how much he's helped my mixing

SHE BLINDED WITH ME SCIENCEEEE

>>68240063
Layer sounds/notes/chords over each other with slight upticks or downticks in pitch, with heavy reverberation this creates a very dreamy atmosphere.

>>68240063
well as i'm sure you know, a basic LFO module will have one rate/speed/frequency knob and one depth/level knob, so with that in mind, a slight modulation as that anon is talking about, will probably mean that you turn the level/depth knob up a little bit, so the modulation level of the LFO isn't crazy strong or noticeable, this is just an example, an LFO isn't the only thing you can use to modulate other parameters

How much can you really do with just Ableton? I'm interested in learning but I don't have any synths, samplers, sequencers, or other modules.

>>68240115
Derivative, the hihats hurt my ears

>>68240184
>>68240063
This anon gets it. Also as >>68240145
said layering can help if it doesn't get too cluttered.

>>68240191
Everything. Don't get caught up on the extra shit.

>>68240191
Everything. As with any daw

>>68240191
you can do those things in ableton

>>68240191
>>68240257
technology is amazing, just take the time and be focused and determined

>>68240223
>Derivative

explain

>the hihats hurt my ears

too loud? or something else?

Completely new to music production.
What DAW is best? Is Fruity Loops actually any good or is that a meme?
Also, I am very curious- if you get a keyboard, are you able to map sounds to the keys, or is that a different instrument that does that? I have seen videos where people map sound effects to certain keys and play it, then turn the levels up or down. Can this be done with a typical keyboard or do I need a special one?
Sorry completely new to /prod/.

>>68240310
>What DAW is best?
whichever daw you like to use best

try out demos of them

>>68240309
Sounds like any other trap beat, be honest with yourself. Add some interesting modulation, take a more lax approach to the synth stabs.

Too generic, too upfront. See above, percussion and Ryhthym drive these types of tracks, do something creative.

>>68240310
They're all the same some just have a better way of organizing

>>68240310
>What DAW is best?
It's subjective.

>Is Fruity Loops actually any good or is that a meme?
It's great (I am biased, as it's my main DAW)

>if you get a keyboard, are you able to map sounds to the keys, or is that a different instrument that does that? I have seen videos where people map sound effects to certain keys and play it, then turn the levels up or down.
I think you're talking about a sampler VST, which pretty much all DAWs will have

https://clyp.it/dwxvdtz1
https://clyp.it/x1ovpcqn
https://clyp.it/5x5cx3zc
o shit waddup
r8 me as usually

https://clyp.it/yg2u0hjp

i've spent like 10 hours on this synth and now i have to try and make the rest of the track interesting.

>>68240331
I will do that.
>>68240375
Cool, thank you!
>>68240382
I am leaning towards FL because the userbase seems pretty wide so I'd have an easy time getting advice, but I'm going to try out demos like the other guy said.
So I could just get a standard keyboard and map sounds to keys using the DAW?

>>68240427
Nice to see a female producer here.

>>68240470
Haha I get it

>>68240445
fl studio probably has the most tutorials out there

>>68240445
It's called a midi keyboard

>>68240470
I don't exist.

>>68240445
Look in to FL or Abelton, to me it seems like they're sort of like the bloods and crips of DAWs, as in they're enemies or something, but they both have a huge userbase and a bunch of tutorials and resources online

and yea, you should be able to find a number of ways to map sounds to keys with each DAW, a lot of times things are like that in music production, there are a bunch of ways to do the same thing, and it's up to you to find your favorite

>>68240483
>68240483▶
its a hip hop instrumetanl

>>68240505
>>68240520
>>68240531
Thank you very much everyone for the advice. Optimistic about starting out now.

>>68240522
L O N D O N ?
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N
D
O
N
?

>>68240470
>Nice to see a transgender producer here.
FTFY

>>68240303
Awesome. I was concerned that I couldn't make anything interesting until I got better equipment. I have Ableton Live installed. I'll start learning what I can do.

>>68240404
everybody always ignore u, just gtfo noob

>>68240404
>https://clyp.it/dwxvdtz1
>https://clyp.it/x1ovpcqn
>https://clyp.it/5x5cx3zc
The Turkish or whatever language you are singing in ruins it all.

>>68240575
N O P E
O
P
E

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>>68240606
S-Sorry.

Is my track at least not too shitty?

Do i buy shit from ebay? What if its a scam its cheap

>>68241085
No, it's fine but as you said you need to add something onto it.

ok any tips, im going for harsh noise https://a.pomf.cat/wjfneo.wav

>>68241404
Yea I do.
I've bought quite a lot of stuff from eBay.
Just use PayPal. If you get scammed you can get our money back in full. Also look at people's reps and how long they've been selling on eBay and use common sense.

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sup /prod/, was looking at buying a akai mpk mk.2 mini and was wondering what the general consensus on it is in terms of durability and if theres anything to bear in mind when deciding to buy?

Thinking about giving up on Ableton and selling my Push 2. I can't write a track for crap and everything sounds one dimensional and too digital. And all the samples and sounds don't fit the music I wanna do. Halp!

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I have added my track All Talk No Walk on Splice
If you want to remix it, get in touch with me and I will add you as a collaborator.

We are currently making a Remixes EP of the track
https://soundcloud.com/airbornmartin/all-talk-no-walk-original-mix

Thanks

>>68241960
dont give up and switch daws because youll just have to learn another one wasting more time

imo the samples and presets that come with ableton are not so good i would find better samples/presets that fit the style of music you want to make and learn synthesis

>>68241960
hey would you be interested in maybe selling the Push to me?

>>68242007

I was wondering if I should just go hardware only and track everything in Ableton since working with samples are not for me?

>>68242022

Maybe..

>>68242101
give me your contact or anything to talk about this

Does anyone here actually do live recording or do you all just do electronic shit?

>>68242101
Tbh senpai if you find a push 2 too hard to use, going all hardware is a mistake.
Push 2 is easy mode as fuck. Just git gud.

>>68241960
just keep at it, if in a year or two you haven't made a little progress, then making music just isn't your thing, some people have the ability to write good shit, most of us, with enough practice can only write ok shit, but there are people who have no business being in the songwriting game, figure out where you stand

>>68241651
please anyone?

>>68242315
>>68241651
>tips?

stop that pls

>>68242407
whats wrong with it

>>68242446
it physically hurt me

>>68241904
anyone?

>>68242456
thats what im going for? i dont get it, can you just give me some pointers?

>>68242539
sorry, i dont really do noise
my tip would be, make it way lmore quiet and cut anything above 18 khz not to damage your ears

>>68242566
but how do i make people talk about me if i dont have a selling point like the damaging peoples ears thing?

>>68242669
maybe make a chord progression, not just noise?
i can give you some midis if you want

>>68242669

chop and screw that noise

>>68241651
make it longer

>>68242830
its a demo, going to be longer
>>68242828
i dont have any lean tho
>>68242783
hmm, i appreciate the offer but no thank you, what kind of progression do you think would sound good?

>>68237652
nah, we gud

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So, no one gives feedback here anymore?

>>68244635
It' after midnight in Europe and Ameriburgers are just finishing work. Give it some time.

>>68244719
I thought prod was NEET

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>>68244968
>thousands in equipment
>NEETS
no

>>68244997
literal kek from the image, thanks

>>68244997
>Implying I'm not on Thousand of dollars worth of pirated shit and a MIDI keyboard got from my music teacher friend FOR FREE since he has like fifteen of them.

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>>68245047
Got any more of those MIDI keyboards?

>>68244968
not at all. most of prod is students, are people working and making music for fun or possibly even playing gigs or producing music.

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>>68244968
I run job-sites during the day.
I make music on the side for fun.

I think I'm realizing that I over complicate everything when I make music. Maybe making music is supposed to be more fluid and laid back. But it's hard to be when I absolutely suck at making sounds, mixing, everything.

>>68245905
I feel this very often too.

>>68245905
best advice is to start making music that don't require you to be good at any of those things,especially if your goal is just to get something made that was still influenced a lot by your own musical taste.

>>68245905
You don't have to be good at any of those things if you just put effort into making something you think sounds great.

>>68245905
I felt this but then I just tried really hard to make it exactly how I wanted it to sound and if you can't do that then maybe focus more on your concept first. That sounds like a dull statement but it worked for me. I felt that all those tasks were simpler when I had a clearer idea of what I was doing and what I wanted to do with it.

>>68239326
if you have an amp/mic/room that you like the sound of you can get that sound instead of trying to recreate it... other than that, going into the interface seems like the easiest thing to do 99% of the time

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hi /prod/, I'm a newfag, so I apologize if this should be asked somewhere else, but: is buying konkakt worth it (I can't play any instruments), or should I just find a crack somewhere? All of the cracks look really sketchy, but I'm sick of the 15 minute limit the demo gives you.

>>68246201
Yeah, pretty much. Although I personally have found that recording and then overlaying an effect in Ableton and manipulating that further to a sound I like is always more satisfying than mic'ing a guitar.

https://clyp.it/ancagvw3

pls help

>>68246490
Not bad really. I'm not sure I like the pitch of the effect?/strings that kick in at 0:30 and the background tones could be a bit more pronounced.

>>68246256
>is buying konkakt worth it (I can't play any instruments)
buying it wont make you better at making music but you might feel more inspired by having the sounds

i dont know where to get it but i think you should find a crack if you want to use it

>>68246639
>i dont know where to get it but i think you should find a crack if you want to use it
Yeah, >>68246256 don't pay for it unless you feel you must.

>>68246490
fuck you need help with, this is pretty decent

>>68246603
>>68246778
I FIXED IT

https://clyp.it/erb51qs4

>>68246883
No complaints. That's great.

https://clyp.it/2zbnp1uu
I did it boyz

>>68246639
oh, I've been composing for a while now, I just want to get a electric guitar sound that isn't shit.
>>68246685
alrighty! thanks for the advice my music loving friend(s).

>>68247151
Beck early '90s vibes

>>68246983
>>68246778
>>68246603

This just made me realize that no matter how good my composition is, nobody will be awed because my /prod/ucing skills objectively still suck.

Fuck this gay today's world and technicality being more important than musicality.

>>68247253
what up? do you have anything to share?

>>68247230
thanks dude
these vintage samples saved my /prod/life and I love em

>>68247170
why not just get a real guitar and learn how to play it

Hi /prod/, newer producer here.

What do you all do to recreate the sound of tape recorders or get a purposely lo-fi sound?

Currently in Ableton I've been using an FX rack with some an EQ with a good range of mids carved out, some vinyl distortion with minimal amounts of crackle, a short filter delay and repitched simple delay assigned to a marco knob to make cool lil pitch changes. This has been OKAY but I'm wondering if there are any alternatives that don't investing in a tape deck.

>>68247403
tape recorders

>>68247403
>an EQ with a good range of mids carved out
I think you're supposed to carve out the low and high freqs to get that tape cassette sound

>>68247151

spy kids type beat

>>68247253
wanna compose for me? im the guy who made the song

>>68247253

tips on composition?

https://clyp.it/waqnjinl

>>68247403
Try the toneboosters Ferox plugin

>>68247403
-EQ everything under 400-500, dont cut, but reduce alot, (like 5-15 db depending)
-EQ everything above 10khz - 13khz (depending on how degraded you want it to sound)
-Smash it into a low quality limiter, a limiter that isnt as transparent as other high quality limiters.
-Alternatively, find a tape saturation plugin and smash it into that or both, experiment, find your sound. (google tape saturation plugins)
-Add some nice tape hiss on top (optional)

tape hiss samples
https://www.freesound.org/people/BoilingSand/sounds/49005/
https://www.freesound.org/people/marineiguana/sounds/213918/

>>68248199
Thank you for your post! I will definitely test some of this out!

>>68248413
no biggie
oh, here the best vinyl crackle sample I've found online
https://www.freesound.org/people/veezay/sounds/130393/
40 delicious seconds of it.

>>68246883
Perfect porno music

>>68247403
buy a tape recorder, they're like $5 at the thrift store

>>68248078
Beginning reminds me too much of Mad World. Otherwise, cool

>>68248559
I'm gunna pop some tags, I only got $20 in my pocket :)

>>68248523
https://clyp.it/klr3tbdh

it didnt have bongos now it does

>>68248510
nice

>>68248523
>>68248871
Goddamn you guys. Now I can't listen to either mix. It does sound like porno music. Every time I listen to it I just hear a deep-voiced male moaning and saying "oh yeah."

>>68249393
any porn music that has a trussart is a friend of mine

>>68247230
>wild and crazy kids from the 90s

Fify

Dis good doe

https://clyp.it/v0cij50u
Trying out the method of quantity over quality, track is not finished. I'm going to pirate some distortion vsts over the weekend.

>https://clyp.it/ymi1agbb


I've been producing for a week... Suck my cock with your ears and tell me how to improve the quality of my cum. I hope your ears enjoy this piece of trap godly shit.

NigMane

novation launchkey 25?

y/n

Should I get the Arturia microbrute? Is their something better?

>>68249693
I have both the micro and mini, they're fun, I don't use them in tracks, mainly cuz I hate recording them.

But fun

>>68249553
In trap music do the 808 bass hit samples overlap or retrigger?

Any tutorials on how to process synths?

>>68238268
I can rave to this

>>68249857
Is it the hassle of recording them? Or are you not experienced with doing so?

>>68249652
Sure

two ideas i need feedback on:

https://clyp.it/gcfxwdai

https://clyp.it/yec5gsb0

any and all help is appreciated

does anyone know where can I get a good sounding roland tr-909 sample pack?

>>68250949
http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html

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Where do you get vocals to use in our productions?

>>68251521
just sing yourself

>>68250728
Holy shit, you're way above my level. Really liked both of them

>>68251561

>>68250728
pls be a samefag, these are both terrible

>>68250728
those synth hit too fast in the first link, it would probably sound better to make the attack longer

>>68251589
Bitter someone didn't like your work? I genuinely liked them.

>>68251540
I don't think that's a very good idea. I prefer female vocals anyways.

>>68251664
Genuinely no, they're bad. Here is why:

le sidechained to kick
stereotypical snare roll build up
the snares that hit after the synth with the annoyingly long attack are mixed TERRIBLY

the vocals sound totally off

the drums have no impact, and stereo widened terribly

2nd one:

starts off much better, desu, but the tuned down vocal sample is terribly derivative and just makes me wanna shut it off right there, nothing interesting.

drums are boxxy, snare hasnt really any impact would increase the mids

but yes this is much better than the first, still not good though


then again I have a bias against this type of edm shit so whatever

https://clyp.it/iqzjqjud

Remember me? Yeah, fuck this track. it's gone.
Going to work on techno with my new Squarp Pyramid

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Admittedly, this is a music production thread, but thoughts on this cassette J-card?

>>68249693
It's a great synth but any 2 or 3 VCO monosynth is going to go a lot further than it. The oscillator sections and filter modes are pretty sweet, but they still don't compare to having seperate pitches and a classic Moog filter.

Honestly, I would have been happy if Arturia made a odyssey like mono/duo synth with 2 VCOs and their own filter, but their only options are 1 VCO or that wannabe Minimoog monstrosity.

https://clyp.it/34q2g30b

gimme attention tips n tricks senpaiii

used ableton and fl, but im maining fl right now. asked a fellow producer online what DAW he's using and he told me it's Reason, told me to try it out.

what does /prod/ thinks of reason?

>>68252372
im >>68252266 and i use reason, i really enjoy using it, i just wish it supported vsts

generally when people ask about it someone always says that it can help you do more creative stuff it just might take longer than in other daws, just given everything you can experiment with

honestly if youre interested id just rewire it to ableton and use both together senpai

>>68252372
>>68252411
I used to use reason "rewired" with cubase. You get an awesome combo that way, and can use whatever plugins you like.

https://clyp.it/qnlx4nnr

thoughts on this?

>>68252853
Like the ambient pad or sample, the drums work, but I'm not sure I like them. I was almost bracing myself for some awful hip hop "YEAHH"

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>>68252035
The fonts on the front aren't captivating enough. You should make "MatchI" red. Check out some 3d fonts

Just a thought, bro

Where can I find some decent acapellas to build songs around?

I probably wont even use them in the final version but it's just to have a reference to build tracks around.

Looking for pop / modern sounding stuff, if that makes any sense since I'm going for a mainstream sound (as terrible as that sounds).

So, I think I've reached a point where this mix is solid. It's hard to tell. what do you guys think?

https://clyp.it/gqfgjui3

Witch one of you is "Sludge Fucker"?

>>68253375
Sounds great

How can I objectively tell if my mix is good or bad? I have no feel for this at all and I've been trying for months.

>>68237642
What kind of bass traps do you guys use? Do foam bass traps really work?

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>>68254010

Anybody here
>poisonously self criticizing
?

>>68254025
do you need to frame fiberglass?

>>68251788
im the guy that posted the stuff. anyways, yeah its not mixed well (or at all really), theyre projects i had a hard time finshing/finding inspiration for and wanted to know if conceptually they were worth pursuing or if they should go to the trash

and no I wasnt samefagging

>tfw feeling like I'm cheating when I want to use some of the Omnisphere samples

Is it still cheating? Especially for FX. I don't think myself as of sound designer at all, but still.

>>68254691
shitons of producers use omnisphere presets
no one cares
the sample library is the point of omnisphere

>>68254707
I can see it as normal for instrument presets, but I especially feel weird when I just pick some sample from one of the soundscape libraries and play a single note while letting it do everything for me.

I don't know, I'm just not a sample guy, I just think of composers and how they had/have to think how to achieve certain sounds through instruments they have at a disposal and then here I am, clicking a button and having an ambient noise with light drums and strings and what not let it do it for me.

I may have had listened to too much shit about using presets in general, either here (major lazer being the biggest meme) or somewhere else on the internet and now I feel bad if I don't make it from scratch - even don't really wanna use noise sweeps because of that.

>>68254790
I guess I don't feel bad because I play 3 instruments. Playing a rhodes keyboard is also just playing a bunch of samples.

>>68253375

>intimidation increases

How the fuck do I get good at /prod/ucing? I jump from one project to another constantly, can't find good instrument samples (can't even recognize good ones), ignorant to how a good mix sounds so can't make one even when tryharding, literally nothing works my way in this craft.

I think I should be going back to analyzing and recreating other works, but it's been too long and I still haven't finish anything of my own.

>>68244968
nope, there are at least 2 prod guys making a living off music

>>68244968
I go to stanford nigga

>>68255186
Sure you do.

>>68255105
Who? Genuinely interested.
If I have to guess, I bet it's Flume and Jbenitex.

>>68255300
>flume
That was me, sorry you fell for the bait

>tfw this level is unachievable

https://soundcloud.com/koan-sound

How do fuck do I learn how to make good drum patterns for every genre?

im trying to map geist to drumrack so I can play them easily swapping engines and shit with push but it only responds to note up until D#2

wtf I need more control. how to get it to respond to higher notes?

I'm wasting so much time reading shit articles jesus christ...

https://music.tutsplus.com/tutorials/quick-tip-how-to-create-interesting-drum-patterns-quickly--audio-5135

>>68256180
Listen to every genre or become the Joél of every genre with the same drum pattern

https://clyp.it/yqdsgmwv

can i get some feed back, im pretty new to this and dont know wtf im doing

>>68256414
FF OST core especially with the strings at 0:50

Pretty neat stuff

I think I don't have good enough ears for this, my f a m s.... That's what I've realized after fighting with mixing and sound design for far too long.

Even this from a beginner sounds better
>>68256414

I fundamentally don't know what makes a sound good. I know how to use the effects and some mixing theory, but that doesn't help.

>>68256414
at times it almost resembles some nice ass mid 00's shit, but the lead doesn't quite fit it right. it might just be whatever instrument you're using but i don't like the lead. could also really crank the bass.

The solo thingy come in for the last third of it was dang alright though. Like, the concet is good but the entire thing feels a little..shallow? just need to keep editing and fine tuning maybe.
Check out some good slowjamz for reference.

>>68256610
You will always think that your own stuff is shit even when other people tell you otherwise

Post clyp if you need help

>>68256683
In general I think that everything I make sounds like a pile of dog shit. I even got told multiple times that people hate my sounds when I used high quality libraries - either I'm horrible at choosing something pleasable, or I manage to ruin them.

I mean, just look at clyps 2, 3 and 4 on this post:
>>68237729

I spent like 20 hours on that electric guitar with strings fighting with mix and it still doesn't sound good. "Virtuoso" shit has incredibely bad sound now when I'm listening to it and in general things always gets muddy, even when I do all the stuff people keep repeating to me (EQ, panning, compression, creating space blah blah).

Oh and btw, check out these cancers. I spent so much time trying to fix it but I just can't.

https://clyp.it/kt1hjf0i
https://clyp.it/o5hb4yj0

The worst thing of all is when I drop many hours on something and then the composition itself is not even that good. Just can't win in this field. It sucks. I'm getting stressed out on a daily basis because of this shit and can't help myself. Gotta keep trying but man, idk...

>>68255300
Top of my head, there's Ryuno and I think the Orchestra trip.

It'd be funny if it's the two of them, because both are FL Studio users and the DAW gets a bad rep for being kiddy stuff.

>>68255006
I don't know if it's too late for you to see this, but PRACTICE. Try to recreate sounds you hear that you like, but then build your own compositions around them. That way you can practice your sound design skills and your composition skills at the same time.

Still relatively new to producing, not sure if I like was just sort of goofing about

https://clyp.it/3vvybq5v

>>68257172
also I know I need to fix the frequency drop off but it's just a wip atm

Doing something new. What do you guys think?
https://clyp.it/34u3waut
>>68256414
I think there is too much going on. Maybe throw something out and make it simpler?

It is just me, or are they using the same snare on the first 3 of their song?

https://soundcloud.com/koan-sound

Just wondering, maybe I'm deaf. And a question to you all - how often do you use same samples in your tracks? I'm yet to find something I like from drum samples.

>>68257346
yeah, that sounds ok...but just 12sec...really?

>>68257463
Just started workin on it. I am not sure how to end this loop. Can you help?

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>work on project for hours
>almost done, just stuck
>post to /prod/
>get great feedback and ideas
>never open project again
>start new project

>>68257481
it sounds done, just loop it. Add a bass line. Add a drum track. Add some pads/strings. Then make a chorus section.

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>>68237642
How to create the sound of the first 30 seconds? Similar VST synths?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQsBL6vEk4

>>68257723
that's a envelope assigned to control pitch. You can set the pitch to bend up/down to the note played over a set amount of time. Most synths have this, just look for a section called Pitch Envelope.

>>68257994
I really appreciate your quick answer, anon. I'm investigating about this right now.

do any of you know where i could pick this distorted snare up from? its gotta be somewhere considering these two completely different sources both use it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93jsY-YdZ1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TblxPu9JB2U

>>68259165
I hear two different ones to be honest

Making your own is also a part of a /prod/

>>68259217
apart from a pitch difference i find them to be similar enough.
i'll fuck with some noise waves then

>>68237642
https://clyp.it/kpdjkr01
https://clyp.it/ff13p4ih

these are my two most recent wips
what do you think so far?

>>68253375
this is some good shit

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>>68259437

>https://clyp.it/ff13p4ih

sounds like age of empires, it's alright

>>68257723
saw, and loads of glide, slight detuning

>>68257172
you need chords man, this is okay though

kick is too low and you need more space for your hats

don't chuck everything in a quantizer and expect it to fit, space is key

>>68256414
i like it, interesting - need a sub doing something a bit more syncopated though

good stuff

>>68252853

love this, like trap in a cathedral


++++++++++++++++

rate my winter piece

>adlibbing on my vox on my shitty laptop mic while its raining out

https://clyp.it/pqrsqpmo

sup /prod/

if i wanted to goto a """"""""Live Performance"""""""" show, what touring artists/dj/producer should i go see?

SUP, EVERYBODY.
I want to buy some good drum samples. Something good for house, disco, and techno sounding stuff.

Any recommendations?

sup /prod/ where can i cash in money for talent

Does anyone know how to apply an effect one one single clip in an audio track in Ableton instead of on the entire track?

>>68262707
put the part you want to apply fx on in a seperate track

>>68262707
just like in standard mixing boards, effects are applied per channel, so no way around that.

But you can apply all of the effects you want, freeze the track, and drag that clip to a new audio track. That will give you a clip with the effect permanently applied.

>>68262825
>>68262831
Thanks. For now I'll just put it in a separate track and apply it then collapse it from view.

>>68262707

Automate the effect's on/off status while the clip is playing - since Live v9 that can be done within Session View as well as in Arrangement View.

>>68264273

Meant to add - if the effect is a delay-based one (like delay itself or a reverb) automate the wet/dry instead if the effect is in-line with the track, or automate the send if you have the effect on a return channel.

>>68262707
Sequoia is the only DAW I know that can do real time non-destructive effects on a clip basis
also per-clip aux sends, which is fucking amazing

hey dudes what use would a rack-mounted audio processor be to a new producer? i've got an opportunity to get a nice one for free. i'm not entirely sure what audio processors are even for desu.

https://clyp.it/ak2nail4

desu terrible mix

>>68264751
the one you need you fresh faced nooblet
>>68262707
Any decent DAW has event FX
>>68261654
This is a good question

In my experience, if you are a trust fundy shite who can afford to practice your art for years on end, then that is how you get talented. Most people can't afford to sink all their time into this. It's ez to do laze about and just spend money on gear. Harder to actually use it

https://www.youtube.com/user/kpsiegel

This guy has a studio with $200,000 worth of gear from my last tally. He fucking sucks, and he's practically retired / has free time to boot.

>>68264751
audio processors can be all kinds of things
equalizers, compressors, reverbs, modulation effects, analog ones and digital ones, anything that processes audio
if it's useful depends totally on if it fits your workflow and even more if you have the i/o capabilities in your setup to be able to experiment it
chances are that if you're new to the whole thing you're way better off with using the readily available digital versions of whatever that processor might do inside your DAW and expand your knowledge that way first

>>68264751
its free so id get it even if i didnt need it yet

no surprise this thread is full of niglibs making "beats" muggfugga. can't wait til hes in office and you numale cucks have to get jobs finally

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>>68265510
say that to my face and not online faggot ill fucking wreck your shit

>>68241960
Just add more instruments/layers m8.

>>68246256
Kontakt is free. The instrument packs is what u have to pay for.

just like ol thom likes it
https://clyp.it/nhonkrlv

>>68265658
the free kontakt player can only use certain packs

I think I'm completely out of motivation. The only thing I've made at all lately is this joke.
https://clyp.it/nnr1shph
My friend recorded his voice and told me to make something stupid with it. I hate myself.

>>68266002
>https://clyp.it/nnr1shph
think about what music you'd want to put on right now

Make that music

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>>68237642
Is there anywhere I can get UHE DIVA synth for free? I downloaded a crack, but it still says demo and does that annoying crackle and pauses so that I can't use it.

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I just bought one of these. I'm finding out I'm not autistic enough to use it.

I had a Machinedrum and Monomachine which were super fun and I could geek out on them for hours.

I sit at this thing for 5 hours trying to do one thing and never get there.

The manual is the most autistic thing I've ever read.

>>68265989
>https://clyp.it/nhonkrlv
I have komplete

Biggest waste of money ever

Spent like 800 on that fucking thing

it literally takes 12 hours to install

always has issues with bugs and crashes and bullshit requiring registration and other annoying shit

send email to naitveinstruments and all they ever tell me to do is to uninstall and reinstall

not a super big deal if it didn't happen every week and take 12 FUCKING HOURS

I fucking hate nativeinstruments

>>68254790
Just make sure if you're using a preset that its something that you really like and not just some sort of laziness thing

I don't see having a few presets you like as any different from say, liking the snappy envelopes on x synth or the saturation of y echo or the converters on this sampler

>>68267814
I only buy if i know customer service is good, like u-he

https://clyp.it/dwymisjb

i'm posting this here cause i like it and it'll probably never be finished. cc would be pretty nice too if ya got some

https://clyp.it/2dspxt2z

Should I even bother to continue with this or should I let it drown in the project folder abyss?

>>68268813
I am not completely sure of what I am listening to, interesting sounds is all I really can say.

>>68268813
noisecore
>>68269035
force finish everything until you have songwriting down

https://clyp.it/swuet1ou
>cooked this up in 7min or so. My AFX-tism friendo got really hyped because it's not breakbeat + soul chords as I usually do

>>68269035
I have to say i quite like the drum rhythm, the snare kick, snarekick, snakicsna thing

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Just finished the Kontakt manual, fucking hell the zone envelopes are so dope

https://clyp.it/graw12ff

the first few seconds are the raw break followed by the one mangled by zone envelopes

it slices the drum into individual hits and then you can draw automations for anything per hit - this is just the sample speed, pitch and SSL type shelves

it's not unpredictable either you can really tweak it to what you want

>>68241904
Keys are way too small and feel low quality. I have one and it's more or less useless to me because of the keys. Do not recommend.

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>>68269346
Here's another fun thing you can try with breaks in Kontakt.
Chop all the hits into individual zones and map them to the keyboard. Separate kicks, hihats, snares into octaves in the mapping editor.
Now- create a few groups. In Kontakt, you can think of a group as a page of settings. MODULATION, envelopes, etc, all for whatever zones you add to a particular group.

So what you can do is, throw your kicks in group one, your snares in group two, hihats in group three for example.

Now, you can apply envelopes / different modulation to each group / samples separately.

Beyond that, each group can have its own output to the host (also midi channel- useful for building multi layered synthy type patches)- if you are using kontakt in multi-channel output mode.

You may find it useful to have a dummy instance of kontakt that has multichannel output setup already to the host, an empty instrument filled with groups, each one pointing to those different outputs. This can be your 'drum chopping / percussion' kontakt instance. You can name your groups / set their outputs so when you add a snare to group 5, you know it outputs to channel 5 in your host.

>>68246256
Even if Kontakt didn't have outstanding 3rd party libraries, then it would be worth the price of admission as a sample manipulation tool. It has excellent modulation, envelopes, filters, even just using your own sounds in there is worth it. Editing in this manner cannot be done in the free version.

>>68270289
oh yeah i always the use the multiouts, i still haven't got round to learning how to make a multichannel setup the default project because im still learning ableton

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>>68270360
It sucks to, because you have to fiddle around with Kontakt's outputs tab- but once you do it you can save an output preset (in the outputs tab). At this point my logic autoload is just a sea of multichannel kontakt instances, already setup. Some are setup as described above, with groups for easy routing with perc in mind, some are just setup with the outputs & no instruments loaded.

>>68269346
>>68270289
>>68270332
Native instruments shilling this hard. GTFO

>>68270566
you could post a better sampler

>>68270360
>>68270550

In Ableton preferences go to the File/Folder tab and click "Save current set as default".

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>save a synth preset in fxb
>load it
>tweak it but dont hit save
>load it up later and its changed from where i tweaked it, like its autosaved

how do i stop this autosave fxb shit, i lost a good patch

this is in ableton btw

>>68270806
nvm i figured it out

it was synclavier V carrying oversampling/bitrates between patches

tripfagnottripfag here
this shit is waaaayyyyyy out of my comfort zone

https://clyp.it/avgqm4k0

and I don't know if I'm doing this right honestly halp.

>>68270946
this is nitpicky stuff its not bad:

sounds like a tape emulator on the master buss, i'd try a different setting cuz it sounds too flangey for my liking

and the kicks especially the 2nd louder ones are phasey like there's two layered phase canceling maybe? and i dont like the saturation/transients or whatever it sounds nobbly

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https://clyp.it/sv4duzb5

a little beat i put together in 45 mins, rate please

>>68271066
I don't like the drum processing, mainly the snare, i like the rhodes

>>68271043
>sounds like a tape emulator on the master buss
exactly
>and the kicks especially the 2nd louder ones are phasey like there's two layered
exacly

good ear anon foreal. I'll be tweaking the mixing and master stuff, I was trying to give it that bite (hard to do without clipping). The phasey 2nd kick shityness is intentional it's actually not even in the same key. That's what I mean by idk if im doing this right

>>68271066
make them keys tremolo and you got you some money

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>>68271160

This was something Tycho said on gearslutz about his process:
"Usually a couple EQs at different points in the chain, one with more color (like the Waves API 550A or PSP Console Q in SAT mode) for additive stuff and character, and then
one towards the end for the surgical mixing stuff -- I use Equality and Waves REQ for that.

I take the same approach to compression; something warm with nice distortion (like Softtube FET or CL 1B) that I'll drive pretty hard,
open up the tails with fast attack/slow release, and run parallel to blend (which is stock in Reaper via the FX mix parameter). Then I'll do more transparent mix type compression later to wrap up the whole thing.

Here and there in the chain I'll have any combination of distortion, bit reduction, delay, reverb, etc. For drums I typically use D16 Devastor, SP Sonitex, Echoboy,
and Lexicon Native Plate. I then bus a lot of it to a master drums bus and do a little more comp/eq to glue it up.

Really the big thing though is layering. 4 snares, 3 kicks, multiple shaker, high hat, breaks; all swirling around timing-wise with a lot of heavy EQ / HPF stuff
going on to make it all mesh. Use complementary sounds in combination; if you have a nice airy acoustic kick, scoop a little out of the low end and slip a tape saturated 808 kick in there pitched to taste.

I guess my overall goal with a mix is to saturate the spectrum so that all available frequency ranges are being maximized without stepping on each other's toes and percussion is so dynamic that it can fill
in all those gaps your tonal content is leaving resulting in a more dense sound.

Of course you have to be careful as things can get muddy quick. I work with a mix engineer (Count/Mikael Eldridge) who does wonders carving a space out for everything and cleaning my usually pretty messy mixes up."

dont know if that helps

>>68271777
(cont.)

he uses devastor on the drums which a lot of people with a low fi sound use for subtle bitcrushing, his sound isnt really like the clip you posted which is more like flying lotus/burial but i know that you can get closer to that sound using subtle bitcrushing

>>68271838
wait no im thinking of decimort

anyway yeah try using decimort and that sonitex thing