KPOP GENERAL

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i'm out

chewy on tzuyucide watch

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we love sluts here

>>61773768
She takes the best damn selfies

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that's a big dog~

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>tfw this isnt the first time jyp had to apologize about chewy

>>61773815
>that heart on his dick
based soyeon

Has China apologised to Chewy yet?

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yasisi yeah~

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I'm still incredibly confused over the whole Tzuyu thing.

Not the fact that China is angry. Chinese are idiots and think everything belongs to them. I'm confused at comments saying like "Taiwanese independence is a controversial subject she should have been more careful".

Scottish independence is controversial.
Catalan independence is controversial.

Taiwan is a defacto soveriegn state that most people in the world agree is not China.

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>>61773886
nope :(

>>61773949
Only Chinese people think it's a part of china, and tbf there's plenty of chinese people on Tzuyu's side too, it's just all getting blown out of proportion

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>>61773908
post rare bangers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysnUHXksic8

>>61773949
Well best I can tell and I could be wrong but Tzuyu never actually took a stance on Taiwanese independence; she just wave a Taiwanese flag.

Regardless it is fucking ridiculous to have to apologize for having an opinion on something

>>61773949
Lee Soo Man is behind all of it

>>61773949
It is even more fucked up when you realise that mainland China threatened to invade Taiwan if they ever claimed "independence".

>>61773799
why did you post a pure angel tho?

Taiwan is the remnance of the KMT government of the original mainland China.

In 1949 their was a civil war and the communist party conquered mainland China and tool control of it.

The KMT retreated to the island of Taiwan but the communists could not conquer this land from them.

Therefore Taiwan is an independent nation through it not being conquered.

Not hard to understand chinks...

>>61773949
that old guy that started it in the first place seems to have a lot of pull in the discussion

>>61774034
yeah but jyp and tzuyu's apologies--

>"Tzuyu is not involved in any [form] of Taiwanese independence speech and the opinion that Tzuyu has shown online support for Taiwanese independence is not true," said Park, in a post on Weibo. "The company [JYP Entertainment] favorably supports the principle of one-unilateral China."

>"Hello everyone. I have something to say to all of you. I am Tzuyu. I'm sorry, I should have apologized earlier. I didn't dare to face all of you earlier because I didn't know how to react to the current situation. There is only one China, Taiwan and China are part of the same country. I have always been proud of my identity as a Chinese. As a Chinese, during my activities in China, due to my words and actions, I have caused harm to my company and to netizens. I feel very sorry and ashamed. I have decided to suspend all my activities in China and reflect on my actions. Once again, I'm very very sorry." (Translation by Anna Cheang)

>>61773949
Poor Tzuyu :(

tzuyu "the taipei thriller" tzuyu

>>61774105
Isn't this literally taking a political stance?

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>>61774113

Yuri does not have a manface.

what if yeri got caught with the north korean flag

Reminder that Red Velvet is more based than any other group

>>61774168
true

>>61774153
Waving the flag wasn't, she wasn't even aware this was a thing.
She was forced to take a political stance by her company.

>>61774175
i'm gonna word this

JYP is a fucking cuck and a coward
i have lost all respect for him

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>>61773949
>most people in the world agree
Kek no.

>>61774153
That's the fucked up thing about it, prior to this there was no stance officially, now JYP has force Tzuyu to take a hardline stance against Taiwanese indepedence

>Tzuyu is traitor now
I feel sorry for her

>>61774204
>people are government's

Hurrrrrr

Post normal non politicians know Taiwan is independent and saying it was part of China would confuse the fuck out of them.

>>61774239
and which fat delicious cutie is this??????

>>61774265
sleep tight hammers

>say that Tzuyu has know political stance on Taiwanese independence
>force her to deny the existence of her country and people

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>tfw the tzuyu scandal blew up while I was away

I wonder how this will affect twice in korea

video now has 200k dislikes lol

>>61774285
they'll probably have more sympathy than anything

"t-taiwan is just a meme. i'm chinese, proud of it too"

-tzuyu alongside xi jinping

>>61774265
Thank U Bestie!

But please stop bullying other posters, Binnie poster.

>>61774311
>inb4 they disable ratings

I don't think I will ever get this scandal since I live in the west and was always told Taiwan was a different country to China and was always taught this in school. I think most other westerners would feel the same.

To me it sounds as stupid as being upset France is independent from Germany

what is it about ham that makes everyone love her

>>61774311
Sympathy and annoyance with JYP for
1) Forcing his employee to do this
2) Bending over backwards to the big bully China

>>61774328
lol, pretty sure the video will be deleted at some point, there's no way something as retarded as this will stay on a channel that's supposed to be a music label's channel

kpg is talking about tzuyu for 9 hours straight

>>61774348
power

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>>61773809
word

>>61774354
better save it then

Is there any chance the western media picks this up? All the sponsors pressuring JYP want to sell in China, but a lot of them want to sell in US and Europe too.

post tzuyu

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to be honest I wish I could downvote China.

>>61774373
already have actually haha, just incase I ever need it

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at least korea supports tzuyu now

>>61774351
I'm honestly split between sympathy for Tzuyu and the rest of the girls in Twice and wanting to boycott JYP for sucking Chinese dick.

>>61774433
Never liked JYP 2bh, never really watched anything where I could see what he was like but he just seemed like a dick lol

>>61774375
Westerners certainly hate China enough. And westerners all think taIwan is independent anyway.

But tzuyu is too nugu for anyone to care

what's your favorite david bowie album

heroes?

Can some nice Lovelyz posters please help bolster my new Kei folder?

Thanks, friends!

>>61774458
I think the apology video is so shocking in its imagery that news outlets can run with it.

One hallyu is being invaded by a fuck ton if Chinese shills

>>61774450
I only watched his new video. He seems aggressively pervy and kind of a weirdo.

I've seen worse though.

>>61774459
greatest hits. just got it this week,so good:)

>>61774479
The nature of having to deny the existance of your nation might trigger some amercan normies.

>>61774489
of course a twiceshitter is a OH shitter

fuck off and stay there

>>61774489
What threads?
I'll crush them.

>kpg hates our guy now
no

>>61774479
It could be worse. She didn't cry and kept her hair.

>>61774523
we hate TOP?

babysoul leading the nationalist armies to victory over the communists

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ham looking down at you after shes headbutted you

>>61774509
Yeah that's exactly what I thought, but yeah I guess I've seen worse but after this shit I hate him

>>61774526
I was actually started to get into AKB48 and their sister groups but when I saw that happened back in 2013 I felt sick and stopped watching all their shit.

It all felt dirty after that.

>>61774479
That's what I'm thinking. All it takes is one right-wing outlet getting interested in the story.

"Coming soon to America!"

>>61774348
she's a sweet girl

wouldn't hurt anyone

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>no jiyul
>no gaeun

I guess subin is the best dal shabet member by default now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjwQaEmcVqs

She looked so happy 2 weeks ago, bros

;_;

>>61774548
she's a really funny girl on the akbingo episodes ive seen too

that was sad

Tbh when Scottish / British tennis player Andy Murray came out in support of Scottish independence when he'd won a gold medal at the Olympics for Britain. A lot of people got triggered and there was a big scandal.

He also apologised. A lot of people were telling him to stop running his mouth off about political issues

>>61774548
Me too. It's a fucked up system that encourages pathological behavior from fans.

Idols not dating for a while in kpop still weirds me out.

>>61774459
diamond dogs

for a less predictable response, i must throw tin machine out there too

>>61774582
so chewy is kpop's andy murray huh...

>>61774582
yeah but noone gives a shit about tennis, in asia KPOP and Idols etc are massive, plus they didn't deal with the Chinese

>>61774573
She was the one finding twinks for her akb friends, don't feel sorry

>>61774539
omoooo

>>61774603
The thing is, with idols in Kpop is feels more akin to wanting the girls to keep on track with the group and the music, they don't want them to be distracted which is understandable. That's definitely the feel, and I believe its the reason, when Crayon Pop was not allowed to date when they first formed.

But with big groups like AKB it feels dirty.

>>61774011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpKjtzT-hOo

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what does she mean with this picture?

>>61774653
desu i'm pretty sure it's for the fans' benefit too

but i don't think it's dirty, it's understandable that kids who fall in love (and companies do want them to) with idols also feel possessive and don't want them to date others

it does have a bit different feeling in jpop

>>61774694
she means for you to offer a tribute to her

>>61774603
>Idols not dating for a while in kpop still weirds me out.

You really want to hear about your waifu getting the dick from some actor Chad? Don't lie. There's no need. This is an anonymous forum.

>>61774722
what

>>61774722
based

>>61774703
>it does have a bit different feeling in jpop
It's the same shit

>>61774653
what happened with akb?

>>61774736
I'm not a pathetic waifushitter.

>>61774703
I follow western pop groups a bit and I think it's healthy for kids to see their idols living normal lives. Partying, going through normal relationships and learning, etc.

I agree it's way way weirder in jpop.

>>61774736
not that anon, but personally i don't care since i'm not dating them either, nor will

my waifus are pretty old anyway, i'm just happy for them at this point

watching twiceshitters reel is even more entertaining than watching gsdshitters reel after dumplinggate

>>61774736
They all already taking the dick.

When will JYP stop killing his groups by sending them overseas?

>>>/wsg/904243
kpg today

>>61774747
not really

i think to begin with because the audience of jpop and kpop is so different. mostly girls for kpop.

few k-pop fans obsess about idols' virginity or anything like that, they just get possessive about them dating

>>61774747
no it's not, when has an idol ever gotten humiliated for dating like that one AKB48 member?

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Anyone know other dance practice videos where you can hear the feet stomps?

Like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WObFahz5KVY

I like it a lot for some reason... thanks chingus

im in love with a girlposter

>>61774763
i agree, it'd be healthy, but lots of kids in korea really have no lives to begin with given how they're forced to study and idols' marketing really takes advantage of that

idols try to make kids fall in love with them, and of course as a result of that they feel betrayed and hate to see them dating

i don't know, i agree it'd be better if idols could date, but i kind of have sympathy for how things are now too

Other akb girls had also dating rumors but there was no head shaving. Plus nobody forced her to shave.

im in love with a boyposter

>>61774853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtXFLd8W6Ak
beginning is super cool

I havent fapped in a week

Post feet

>>61774871
we all love tay

>>61774880
im in love with a boypussy

>>61774877
Pretty sure she was one of the most popular members. Gotta apologize to delusional fans thinking she would "sty pure".

>>61774880
>>61774890
OMO
Is it me...?

>>61774853
check 2ne1

>>61774921
maybe...

>>61774871
which one? come to >>>/trash/ we can talk about and fap to our favorite girlposters together

>>61774809
What is johnnys? The first model of sm, mostly fan girls too
And akb girls with sex/dating scandal were still able to stay in the group for years, for fuck sake the baldie is still in it
>>61774816
Taeyeon

>>61774921
post your bpussy so i can tell

>>61774853
omo, i saw one like this recently but i can't remember what it was...

here's cry cry though~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-uF-lshe5M

>>61774888
its not her..

>>61774928
Oh my...
>>61774935
No, I can't...

>Literally 99% of people in the world agree Taiwan is independent from China
>Jyp forces Tzuyu to say that Taiwan is a meme and she's Chinese.

>>61774933
tae didn't have to apologize nor shave her head, nor was she demoted in the group

>>61774929
im already there

i dont want to say because she likes someone else and thats why im saying it here instead

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>>61774915
Wasn't it in her contract to not date? I mean why would she do that knowing there'd be serious repercussions if she broke her contract?

>>61774933
Nothing happened to taeyeon people just whined because their waifu/husbando got caught but no one touched her

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>>61774078
that will not end good for china

>>61774964
>tae didn't have to apologize
she did though
she just went about it in a really stupid way(going to an airport crying and walking up to a random fan begging for forgiveness)

>>61774939
>tfw we won't have t-ara dance practice again because Soyeon is too lazy and Boram is too old

>>61774964
No one asked her to shave her head dumbfuck, she did it for sympathy.

There's a homebreaker in one of the group that didn't give a fuck and is still working. The purity meme is long dead

>>61774964
She was demoted to trainee status.

>>61774853
OMG's songs and choreos are p good

>>61774987
Read a story that a member of small girl group in Japan paid a fee when her dating came to light. They wouldn't kick her if she was popular knowing they could still make money from her if she apologized.

>>61775006
she still felt the need to do it and more importantly, they officially demoted her to trainee as punishment

nobody gets punished like that in kpop

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POST LOVELYZ

>>61774777
Right, but do you want to KNOW about it. Do you want to see it flaunted in your face in tabloids? Do you want to see how the sausage is made?

>>61774773
To be honest this sound like a (as much as this word is abused) cuckold mentality. And I doubt it's sincerity. Everyone says things like this in public on the Internet these days. But these companies didn't all as one make up and continue the no dating rule on some sort of evil whim. They've noticed that dating causing a loss in fandom. Keep in mind, it doesn't have to be some dramatic angry denunciation that you are trying to distance yourself from to look mature. It can be something as simple as a subtle lowering of interest. One less delux photobook that just doesn't seem as... necessary... as it was before. That turns into a loss of fame and revenues for the idol all the same.

People don't want to be reminded that their idols are not, well, idols but just normal people that can't possibly care about them the way they're hyped up for the idol. That's alienating. That ruins the fun. If you want to enjoy some singer on vocal mertis alone and care nothing for how many miles of dick they taken, how terrible/boring their personality, how unpleasant they are to look at, etc. then start fandoming fat black soul singers. They're the best. No one gets into idols just for that though. Y'all liars. To yourselves and others.

Taiwan is actually under united States control according to the wording of the peace treaty between Taiwan and China.

America holds Taiwan's independence in stewardship and protects Taiwan independence.

Despite this the US doesn't recognise Taiwanese independence from China

>>61775006
they officially uploaded a video of her crying and apologizing with her shaved head

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what a mistake, briging yeri into this realm

>>61775117
>obstructing the view of irene
she has gone too far now

What's aoa jimin's hardest rap?

>>61775117
the real mistake is not having her be barefoot more often

>>61775117
squirtle unnie~

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>>61775144
*throws a banana at you*

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alright~ alright
ye squirtle
alright ~ cute~

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>Rainbow confirms comeback in February
rejoice brothers for the dark days are over!

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>>61775074
Post leader gyu.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cC-ELD7dSVM

>>61775080
>Do you want to see how the sausage is made?
omo..

>>61775080
>And I doubt it's sincerity.

you'll have to take my word, i guess, i don't know how to prove it

> But these companies didn't all as one make up and continue the no dating rule on some sort of evil whim. They've noticed that dating causing a loss in fandom.

Of course. Kids (and sometimes uncles) with nothing else going on in their lives are supposed to fall in love with idols, that's a big part of how idols are marketed.

> That ruins the fun. If you want to enjoy some singer on vocal mertis alone and care nothing for how many miles of dick they taken, how terrible/boring their personality, how unpleasant they are to look at, etc. then start fandoming fat black soul singers. They're the best. No one gets into idols just for that though. Y'all liars. To yourselves and others.

where the fuck did this come from? an idol's dating has no connection to his or her personality being bad, or anything like that. And I do love Motown for what that's worth...

I hope Ham is dating and enjoying her life and not languishing in her twenties. Because I like her. I don't give a fuck about looking "mature" or whatever on an anonymous board.

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>>61775188
I can't wait for another 2 week promotion cycle

>>61775080
The attitude that they have to charm kids into loving them has negative effects too. It makes it weirder for older fans. Videos that involve every idol in the group eye fucking the camera repeatedly weird me the hell out. I'd probably have gotten into it years ago if there were more videos that didn't make me feel like a pedo.

The dishonesty also hurts them in the west. Look at CL's attempts. The first thing that comes up in western pop threads is that the whole baddest female thing is an act and she admits it. That's pretty much the end of the conversation.

>>61775070
If you're punished for breaking a contract I don't see the problem.
She got everything back very quickly and more at that since she capitalize on it.
Also IU, when you sale on your image people don't like sex/dating scandal, simple.

>>61775095
JYP ent has forced a 17 years old to renounce her own country, that's very brutal and pretty much the same level of fuckery to me

>>61775212
there's no way to tzuyu/jyp to win this, at the end of the day someone will be pissed

>>61775212
This and the posts from Chinese netizens about how people should leave her alone now that she's admitted to being Chinese piss me off more than anything

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who is this sex goddess and what have the done with my yeri?!?!?

>sexy yeri
don't...

>sexy yeri
do...

>>61775254
ew shes stocky as fuck

>>61775215
>If you're punished for breaking a contract I don't see the problem.

i'm not saying there's a problem, i'm saying it's not exactly the same thing that happens in kpop w.r.t. dating, or the same attitude

>JYP ent has forced a 17 years old to renounce her own country, that's very brutal and pretty much the same level of fuckery to me

definitely, but again, it's not because of fans' or the company's attitude to dating, which at least for me was the only thing I was arguing about

>sex with yeri
do....

>>61775254
holy shit those thighs and legs
yeri > arin > yein

>>61775265
>>61775269
gain...

>>61775212
I don't get it. Why the fuck are they so petty?

>>61775277
>yeri >

no

>>61775277
shit > yeri > arin > yein

>>61775283
nationalism is a hell of a drug

God i love yeri

>>61775272
insecure manlet

>>61775296
>>61775297
wrong

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>>61775242
its just best to piss off the country with 25 mil than the country with 1.3bil

>>61775212
the japanese did nothing wrong in nanking

>>61775250
The Global Times (Chinese government PR newspaper) is basically trying to claim a win and move on now too.

Unfortunately that means the only way forward is to turn this into a bigger shitstorm by dragging in western media.

>>61775309
dont post this traitorous whore again

>>61775242
Jyp could have one the moral victory by letting tzuyu be proud of her nation. All international fans and Koreans and Japanese would support this.

What he's done now is just piss everyone off. China is still lost even after apology.

Honestly saying "fuck off China you imperialist wanker" would have made everyone cheer

>>61775254
shes like a box, looks like joy just jumped up to 4th place in the RV rankings

I hope twice scandal will be as big as t-ara one

>>61775095
link?

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my fists are registered as lethal weapons

>>61775338
so is that face. conceal that shit lol

>>61775273
>i'm saying it's not exactly the same thing that happens in kpop w.r.t. dating, or the same attitud

One of the most ppular member got her private pics of her with a cock in the mouth leaked out. And she was still the top.
For me, they're at the same level, dating is frown upon and should be hidden.

>>61775327
>2pm and miss a have tons of varieties and shit in china
>hehe fuck it Taiwan STRONG!!!!

>>61775327
word

>>61775352
lmao

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>>61775322
> The Global Times (Chinese government PR newspaper) is basically trying to claim a win and move on now too.

>the opinion of some nugu kpop idol is newsworthy in china

>>61775327
yeah but you can't feed your family on cheers and hugs, at the end of the day jyp has a business to run and pissing off a market with millions of potential customers just isn't a good decision

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>>61775324
taiwan is own country
not commie shithole rike china
TAIWAN STRONG

>>61775322
>The Global Times (Chinese government PR newspaper) is basically trying to claim a win
Yep thats just it. Them acting like they won. Its like when you're in elementary school and a kid steals something from you and when you try to get it back they go crying to the teacher and lying about how they had it first, so they end up getting to keep it and you get in trouble. Thats how it made me feel to read those posts.

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wendy

steps in!!

>>61775354
Are you still talking about twice senpai

are you guys doing well?

>>61775390
and my dinner steps out

>>61775337
sorry about the young turks, i couldn't find the original upload, maybe you can if you really want to look for it though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP_g3LYUQOw

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>mfw there's nothing else JYP can do to save Twice except kick that jailbait bitch out

>>61775370
Koreans would support them more tho.

It's like when chik-a-flik's sales actually increased after their owner denounced homosexuals and everyone got pissed

>>61775393
Nah, the dick in the mouth is from akb

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chinese deserve to be brutally murdered

>>61775399
of course not

I don't get it
they protect t-ara from bullshit scandal and hate tzuyu for even bigger bullshit

>>61775327
Agreed but China is the market kpop is trying to appeal to. This is the part everyone seems to be missing. She was put in the group for this entire purpose.

>>61775419
lol thanks and thx for the warning

>>61775427
The Chinese are brutally murdering eachother already, with all that disgusting pollution.

>>61775423
Koreans are cucks to the Chinese, Twice is going to be basically blacklisted in Korea by all major businesses and shows, they're fucked in Korea

>Kpop group caring about Chinese opinion.

I wish kpop was an underground Korean only thing like back in 2010 and didn't care about other markets.

>>61774948
do it you sissy

>>61775436
>tfw miss A debuted 6 years too early

>>61775354
>One of the most ppular member got her private pics of her with a cock in the mouth leaked out
where?

>>61775452
do you know what pop means m8

>>61775419
I hate TYT.
Fucking scum they are.

>>61775453
It's too embarrassing...

>>61775430
do you need help

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interesting...

>>61775309
true but now she looks like she's flip flopping and there's no guarantee that people in china will accept her apology

>>61775423
>Koreans would support them more tho.
The industry wants to make money. Morals dont mean shit in this industry. China is where the focus and money is now.

>>61775452
>back in 2010
how new

>>61773944
Came in here to post this.
Thanks Duplicateranon.

Reminder that Korean companies are literally dropping Tzuyu CF deals.

Koreans bend over and let China as a fuck them

>>61775471
at least post your dingaling

remember when nips hated on Jiyeon because she used the lid of the pot as her dish

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Still no new Crayongrams.

I'm getting nervous.

>>61775496
Post yours first

>>61775452
it was invented for tourism though

>>61775474
im good thanks

>>61775492
im dropping twice too

>>61775456
http://www.akb48wrapup.com/2012/06/shuukan-bunshun-ex-boyfriend-confesses-akb48-sashihara-rino-super-sexually-aggressive/
Or google sashihara rino scandals

>>61775513
you dont order me around

>>61775520
thanks m8

>>61775423
this >>61775450
korean companies already pulled tzuyu from the ads because of pressure from china
ad money is what actually reeks in the big bucks so missing out on that is a huge hit, even if you have local fan support that doesn't mean jack shit unless twice would sell snsd level numbers

>>61775492
Everyone let's China ass rape them it's do fucking dumb.

Even ny western countrt praises China and invites them to build infrastructure even after their government called us s pathetic weak nation.

>>61775492
>Koreans bend over and let China as a fuck them
Business as usual

>>61775543
Whatever, fag

>>61775388
That's when the little shithead gets jumped out behind school.

I'm not sure what the geopolitical analogy for that is though.

I dunno about you guys but I think the chinese guy going around buying groups is sketchy as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjwQaEmcVqs

I like their cheerleader version.

>>61775603
he is saving best kpop groups desu
he is fucking god

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>>61775603
He just wants to put his omo stick in your waifu

>>61775587
China is like saudi arabia everyone let's them get away with everything.

Western government's are denouncing people like Bashir Assad of Syria when the Chinese government is 1000x worse.

Did you know saudi arabia is going to be on the UN council if human rights? What a joke

>>61775603
idk i think you would do the same in his position

>>61775631
t-ara is a walking corpse tho

>>61775203
>Kids (and sometimes uncles) with nothing else going on in their lives are supposed to fall in love with idols, that's a big part of how idols are marketed.

See, that's the assumption many make. I personally don't buy it. I think it comes from a place of superficial analysis and insecurity (or moralism for the chiding outsider). I think if you abandon your fear of seeming "creepy" and take a harder more critical look at the no dating phenomenon you'll find something else. Their is a logic to it beyond "jealousy", which doesn't fit as well as some pretend.

Idol is, in my mind, something akin to purestrain rockstar. It's a phenomenon you see in music and even beyond it - and it has a lot of power (especially for selling things). You see it in populist politicians, sports heroes, religious demagogues, and most famously in regular musicians who are somehow more than just their music. They're a "personality". It's what turns Sid Vicious from a hack bass player into something special that rebellious teenagers want as a poster on their wall. Business noticed this phenomenon and tried to box and sell it.

Their are sociological rules to rockstar/idol. No one wants to hear about Johnny Rotten's opinions on when it's actually a good idea to do what you're told by society. That ruins the image.

I mentioned personality because that's a big part of making someone mythological, or breaking that. Talking about Tzuyu, she's a good example of why idols will never tell you their political opinions. And I think that fear of showing their human political side is very similar to why they are afraid to show you their human romantic side. Both universally signal a wall between the admirer and the rockstar/idol. The idol is no longer this better than human figure that is always safe, always happy (ever notice idols don't like to be seen swearing or angry?), can always be counted on to make you day brighter at any time.

Now they're just normal people. And people can suck.

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>>61775603
he's not buying them he's basically just doing a joint partnership with their companies

>>61775603
ive heard the rumor that hes a escort ringleader and i wouldnt be surprised

>>61775603
If I had money to throw around I would buy Crayon Pop.

>>61775679
>CF for Honda
>their own cosmetics company
yeah, sure

>>61775674
I would be afraid of me too

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>>61775695
>talking with retards
you are too cool for this chingu

>>61775701
but the question is if they got those jobs based on their company being a competent promoter and negotiator(lol) or something much more sinister

>>61775685
great analysis senpai

>>61775724
I'm sure Jiyeon fucked Honda CEO and Hyo fucked sulatn of Brunei

>>61775480
>but now she looks like she's flip flopping
what?

>tfw chink bought S. Tiger
new bangers for t-ara incoming

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post friends

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>>61775794

where is the fucking taeyeon

>>61775758
she changed her views as soon as she came under pressure, it makes her seem like she's not commited to her views

>>61775724
they were already mega popular in china, number 9 was an enormous hit, i'm sure they had lots of leverage to negotiate with

>people feeling sorry for tzuyu
why is this board plagued with normies?

>>61775833
no no no
he is rich so he must be evil you fucking capitalistic scum

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>>61775844
>not caring about our girl

>>61775844
shut up chink

>>61775844
*tips fedora*

Looks like Lovelyz isn't getting posted.
May as well leave.

>>61775862
what does sunny have to do with anything

>>61775876
may as well stay gone

>>61775832
>she

You realised jyp forced her?

>>61773750
Do you think she gave him a handjob?

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>>61775844
Kpg love cuties and hate people who hurt cuties

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>>61775894
interesting

Have any of you seen the Korean movie "Inside Men"?

It basically documents in a "fictional" reality the fact that old rich Chinese businessmen can pay to spend the evening with Korean idols.

It even massively winks at the audience at the end with a text fade out saying something along the lines of: "If you see anything like this in real life it must be a coincidence".

I think Koreans are pretty aware these days that most idols are whores for their Chinese overlords.

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>>61775887
LOL
BAITED

>>61775894
Probably did before she ate him, to get all that nasty spunk out of his ballsack.

If it makes you feel any better, Huang the guy who created the tzuyu scandal and lives in Taiwan is recieving death threats and is pleading the police for protection.

Is it worth installing instagram just to follow idols?

>>61775891
it doesn't matter if jyp forced her, people only care about the words that come out of tzuyu's mouth so anything she says will be viewed as her own opinions

>>61775894
these are the 9M we're talking about, ofc she did

>>61775909
>suicide rate high af
>no suicides in kpop
I'm sure there would be some if kpop world was so evil

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>>61775898
word, we must protect this smile.

>>61775921
yes

>>61775685
>>61775685
>See, that's the assumption many make. I personally don't buy it. I think it comes from a place of superficial analysis and insecurity (or moralism for the chiding outsider). I think if you abandon your fear of seeming "creepy" and take a harder more critical look at the no dating phenomenon you'll find something else. Their is a logic to it beyond "jealousy", which doesn't fit as well as some pretend.

I don't want to say there is any moral part to it. It's just how it is - people with little else going on are meant to fall in love with idols, that's the way idols are marketed. These people kind of have a right, or at least a reason, to feel possessive or jealous. There is nothing creepy about that - maybe something a bit melacholy, but then, idols give them hope and joy too.

>I mentioned personality because that's a big part of making someone mythological, or breaking that. Talking about Tzuyu, she's a good example of why idols will never tell you their political opinions. And I think that fear of showing their human political side is very similar to why they are afraid to show you their human romantic side. Both universally signal a wall between the admirer and the rockstar/idol.

But when it comes to idols, their human side is exactly why the whole scheme works. SNSD are relatable to girls, and attainable to guys, in a way no other group has managed. That's exactly what sets them apart, and what everyone tries to imitate. Yes, idols are meant to be a simulacrum of a kind of perfection and ideal, but also human at the same time.

But I think this is somewhat aside the point, anyway. We were talking about whether it must always affect people negatively that their waifus (or idols, whatever) are dating. I said it doesn't bother me at all, and that I'm happy for them. That is the case for me. I defended the no-dating policy earlier because of what it means to lots of fans, though. It does have a reason to exist in the larger scheme of things.

>>61775902
See also >>61773815 and >>61773845.
I bet they all got handjobs, and maybe more when not in public.

Or maybe even IN public; I don't know what goes on in Korea.

i have never felt any disgust toward any idol or group until twice came around.

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>>61775921
Not if you're following Crayon Pops.

NO NEW INSTAGRAMS IN TWO DAYS, PEOPLE
THEY MUST BE BUSY

>>61775940
>>no suicides in kpop
...

>>61775940
it referenced the entertainment industry which includes actresses etc.

also
>no suicides in kpop
>thinking eun b and rise died in a car accident

>>61775922
But that's the fucking thing that has made this so ridiculous from the beginning she's never made a SINGLE comment about Taiwanese independence or anything of the sort. She never HAD a official opinion on any of it.

>>61775909
i don't think so

like anon said, there are almost no idol suicides whatever, in comparison to actresses who are dropping like flies, and the korean public

if the idol industry was a prostitution ring or as abusive as some like to think for whatever awful reason, i think people would die a lot

>>61775959
Their first full japanese album comes out on the 20th, they're probably prepping for that.

>>61775978
virgins will always have they sick fantasies

>>61775973
you're kidding, right? the other members went to hospital and one had her face fractured because of... eunb and rise's suicide?

>>61775990
I want to buy the physical version.
Any western online stores selling it?

>>61775909
Is the idol industry (in both Korea and Japan) even that corrupted/perverted on an overall scale? Or does it always seem to be single cases that get blown out of proportion.

post taeyeon in the next thread or else

>>61775978
allow me to clarify a few things.

the film references the entertainment industry, so not limited to kpop idols.

also these foreign old men can pay for simply an innocent evening with these girls, like just a meal, or for them to be their girlfriend for the night and so on.

>>61775978
>if the idol industry was a prostitution ring or as abusive as some like to think for whatever awful reason, i think people would die a lot
Not even a week ago
http://kpopkfans.blogspot.ca/2016/01/tahiti-jisoo-gets-sponsor-deal-via.html

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>>61775844
watching that apology video literally made me feel bad inside tho

>tenpro doesnt employ idols
lol
you'll see
the girls are young now but the older the last two generations of idols get, the more suicides you'll see

>>61776048
>Tahiti Jisoo gets a sponsor offer
>offer

>>61775974
True, it's unfortunate things have to be this way but simply identifying as taiwanese sparked this whole shitstorm

Someone mentioned that jackson handled his situation by saying he was from hong kong, china instead't of just hong kong, maybe tzuyu could have gone that route instead

>>61776048
>http://kpopkfans.blogspot.ca/2016/01/tahiti-jisoo-gets-sponsor-deal-via.html

someone tried to solicit her and she turned him down? so?

>>61776051
I wanted to throw up while watching it.

>>61776084
word her face is fucking disgusting

>>61775844
>showing any sign of compassion is normie
>le normies reeeeee xD
go back to r9k and stay there

>>61776080
She did that's the thing. Jackson answered for her and said she was Taiwanese-Chinese, she just nodded, she didn't actually say anything in that appearance. Jackson gave the politically correct answer for her and she agreed with him.

>there is only one China, Taiwan and China are part of the same country. I have always been proud of my identity as a Chinese.

VERY clever wording.

These Taiwanese government officially calls themselves "The Republic of China" and they still claim to be the legitimate rulers of all of China. Much like The People's Republic of China claims to be the legitimate rules of all China.

So which China does Tzuyu support?

>>61776083
So it exists, people are used to it and he wasn't expecting to be outed. He's not really subtle or discret

22nd April 2011

Lee Soon Man is placed on Interpol's most wanted list for a single day after being arrested at Incheon Airport for embezzlement.

-

Tune in tomorrow for your next Kpop history lesson.

>>61776127
Most Taiwanese and most westerners don't think of Taiwan and Taiwanese people being Chinese.

>>61776117
she's a 16 year old girl group member, what the fuck do you expect? a fucking rocket scientist?

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>>61776149
Madmen

>>61776117
>some mad twiceshitter reported this

>>61776130
>one freak
>BUT IT EXISTS!!!!

>>61776166
Most people confuse all gooks though

>>61776166
But by saying this she could be one of those ultra nationalist Chinese that consider ROC the rightful rulers of China.

>>61776127
It's language from the 1992 consensus. Both sides use it to save face and claim wins.

>>61776130
yep
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/08/instiz-girl-group-caught-working-at.html

>>61776130
or he was a random creeper, and at any rate, she was free to turn him down, as well as to expose the fact that such offers are being made, so I doubt there is an organized prostitution ring

>>61776199
>IT'S JUST ONE FREAK IT DOESN'T EXIST!!!!!

>tfw new ISP
>I'm getting a new IP every once in a while

fugg, feels weird

>>61776199
>if I keep using meme arrows it will go away, I just need to close my eyes and it will disappear
Keep dreaming

>>61776130
>>61776214
like western pop stars get offers like that -iirc some billionaire or something was trying to solicit early 2000's britney publicly but i was too little to understand it then- and i'm sure there are individual cases everywhere, but it doesn't mean the scene is a front for a prostitution ring or anything like that.

if you don't think kpop idols have committed suicide then literally how new are you?

Reminder that while the tzuyu thing happened FNC managed to media play seolhyun so much she won model of the year.

>>61776222
Not him but while some companies have serious problems of credibility, like Star Empire, in most cases idols are not part of those circles.

It's pretty obvious when they just release some crappy group of girls, to see if anyone is interested in buying (like every single dance group).

>>61776213
Damn. Exid? AOA?

Can we have a less depressing thread next time?

>>61776222
nobody said "idols have never been solicited for sex"

we said we don't think there is an organized prostitution ring, and that one creeper is not evidence of that

>>61776261
but no one cared for that article, we tzuyu for the month

>>61776276
not while drama is happening

>>61776031
I wish I knew anywhere to buy physical kpop without steep shipping costs.

>>61776255
based no learning comprehension bro

some have. u;nee, the DSP trainee girl... who else? it's still very few in comparison to, say, actresses, and in comparison to what you'd expect if the industry was abusive like people portray it

I'm literally getting so many upvotes on one hallyu by denouncing China lol

I love farming upvotes whenever there is a scandal.

>>61776265
>in most cases idols are not part of those circles
and you know that because?
>>61776278
>we said
no, YOU said

the point is, we have absolutely no clue as to what's going on behind the curtains in the industry if there is anything going on

>>61776278
And nobody said it was the norm, just that it exists and it's known

>>61776320
>and you know that because?

Neither you nor me know it for sure, but that's the impression I'm getting from most groups.

>>61776370

>>61776320
>no, YOU said

no, there are at least two anons arguing it

>the point is, we have absolutely no clue as to what's going on behind the curtains in the industry if there is anything going on

agreed. but this doesn't mean something *is* going on, especially on a large scale outside of shady nugu operations and the like. and we do know idols aren't suiciding like actresses.

some nugu agencies are known to whore their idols out, using their futures as leverage, and even keep groups for that purpose alone. there was an article about it somewhere.

>all these text posts
why don't you fags go to reddit

>>61776272
It's definitely AOA

Are you fucking kidding dude, FNC Entertainment has shitloads of money from their dude groups, AOA don't need to sell their bodies literally, just shake their ass on stage

>>61776306

see >>61775940
>no suicides in kpop

i interpreted that exactly as it is read.