/prod/ - Production General

Just wondering if this is coming along nicely, if there's not any too apparent mistakes? I'm quite fond of what I made here, wanna find a cool vocal somewhere and publish it:

https://clyp.it/3byp22ps

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What hardware are you guys using right now?

>Yamaha HS8
>UAD-2 Duo
>Steinberg UR22
>Rhode NT1-A (general purpose)

>>61600194

>novation launchkey49
>Akai MPD 26
>Zoom H4n

Way to lazy to type that shit up right now.. Some 808303 and some other analog crap, with a motu sound card

>>61600194
eie 16, oxy gen.1/2
i play guitar

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post that fire, senpai

https://clyp.it/kdwbvtck

>>61599963

That's nice, you've left loads of space for a vocal so hope you find a good one to go on there - some nice sleepy-sounding female thing.

Hey producer people, if I posted my zips from Garageband, would some of you guys be willing to take a crack at mixing them?

>>61603124
i'm sure somebody would do it, but why use garageband?

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How do I git gud at Ableton? I've been using it for a few months and most of it still seems like alien magic to me.

>>61603175
ease of amp/pedal manipulation. I don't have access to a wide variety of equipment.

>>61603176
i guess just manuals/tutorials/experience, a few months isn't very long.

any specific questions?

Here's a link to one of my songs. It's got everything in it, zipped up. If someone would be willing to take a crack at mixing it or something, that would be awesome. I'd love to hear what I can sound like with proper production. Also keep in mind this is not a final product, so it's not perfect.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-_QUmknwNKETzRNdTdteThER2s/view?usp=sharing

>>61599942

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1nCY6sQ8spx

On a scale of 1-10 how retarded does this sound?

>>61603284
i dont really like the last synth that comes in but the rest of it is alright

>>61601229
laughable, senpai

you're not even spitting

https://clyp.it/iuymd1iu

>>61603268
why are all the files different lengths? and why is the lead so much louder than the other tracks/not lined up at all?

also no offense but proper production is not what you need at this point. just practice more and get a real daw

>>61603284
A lot of potential - beautiful progression but the bassline needs to be louder and maybe try some different, smoother effects on the main melody synth?

>>61603893
cWhat kind of DAW would you recommend?

>>61604003
there's some descriptions of daw's in the wiki
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki
i'd recommend any one of them over garage band

Saffire 6 USB (might replace soon as there's no win10 driver)
Reason 6.5 + Recycle
Akai MPK25

>>61603268
i starting making a synth out of the vocal track
https://clyp.it/1fbnruzc

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>>61604003
When you are used to GarageBand the obvious choice would be Logic X (similar UI).

However, you can exchange projects via stems (individual tracks after effects/post-processing). This is what the other poster expected. Those should be labeled and all of the same length, because no one wants to fit your song together like a puzzle. GarageBand is pretty shitty at that, there is no function to automate that. Solo each individual track and export the song as .aif/.wav.

Also work on your recording/production skills. The vocal and chord tracks are REALLY quiet. Picture very related, that are the levels in your recorded takes. The dotted lines are at -6 dB, which is the typical recording headroom.

>>61599963
>https://clyp.it/3byp22ps
I love this, anon!!! You should've added some more sounds to the sides though in my opinion. For some more depth/environment or whatever you call it. Everything is so... in the middle. Like maybe surprise the ears with those sexy keys here and there. I'm new to music production, so maybe ignore everything I've just said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QGVTyzsXfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnpB_jBIrr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbXhid4NHLk

how do you create those really textured "pads" or whatever, like Teebs? I would think he layers a bunch of samples (field recordings and musical stuff) but I cant do anything like it that doesnt sound like an awful ugly mess

>>61600194
>What hardware are you guys using right now?

Tascam 38-8 for main recording
Tascam 488 for rough demos
Mackie 1604 for mixing
Mics - SM57, SM58, Beta 57, a few no-name ones
Monitors - Alesis Elevate 3 and 5, Triple P pyramids
Effects - Yamaha SPX90 (x2), Alesis Quadraverb (x2), Alesis Midiverb II, A few 30-band EQs (cant remember brands), Roland Space Echo
Pedal Effects - Proco Rat, Russian Big Muff, Line6 DL4, Digitech XP300, Digitech Whammy 1, Digitech Whammy 2, Fulltone MDV3, 5 Boss GE7's, Some cheap analog delay
Guitars - MIM Strat, 1968 Mustang, 1973 Jazzmaster
Synths - Ensoniq EPS16, Emu Emax
Drums/Sequencers - Alesis SR16, Boss DR670, Boss SP303, Boss SP505, Boss SP555

I don't like computers so I don't use them for anything music related. It's a waste of time in my eyes since they give you too many options that the whole process becomes convoluted.

>>61605779
> I don't like computers so I don't use them for anything music related. It's a waste of time in my eyes since they give you too many options that the whole process becomes convoluted.
To each their own.

>>61605828
I might make the switch when my 38-8 craps out for good, I love that thing, but it costs a shit ton to maintain/keep up and running when anything happens.

Unless I can find a decent 16 track to replace it.

>>61605885
You should just track into your DAW. I don't think it will impact your creative side if you're still using the same gear to make all your sounds. All you're doing with your computer is just recording what you already have anyway. Plus, you can always indestructibly tweak shit later if you want to.

Does anyone know a TB-303 vst or somethnig similar?

I also don't know how to use a sequencer.

I heard that synth1 could make something really similar to a TB-303.

>>61599942
at least you used the pasta

>>61606356
i have puremagnetik teebee that came with ableton suite and it is multisampled tb303

but it doesnt quite sound right because the cutoff doesnt increase gradually it only goes 1-4 and it kind of sucks for realistic 303 sounds

>>61600194
Presonus Firestudio
Crate PA-600
Blue Baby Bottle
2x KRK Rokit 6
Alesis Micron
Ion Strat copy with MIA Strat electronics

>>61603176
How to git gud?

Use FL.

Just finnished this --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7da3-P_liS8

All i use is
> Fl studio 12
> Fl studio stock plugins
> izotope ozone 5
> Guitar rig 5
> T- rackS CS

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hey boys, i had abelton live 9 once but it deleted itself, can someone show me where they got their copy please?

>>61606561
For sounds and stuff
> Kontakt
> Sylenth 1
> Nexus from time to time

>>61606632
if you pirated it just go find it again im sure its out there

i dont pirate so i just log into my ableton account and dl it

>>61606356
>>61606516

I use Spectralhead Silverbox for 303 sounds - it's emulated rather than sampled and a fair bit of work went into it at the time to get it sounding realistic, demo sounds are on the site:

http://www.spectralhead.com/silverbox.php

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Hey guys, if i want to connect my amps (In this case a Line6 Pod X3) L/R output to my audio interfaces inputs should i use normal 1/4" instruments cables or 1/4" TRS cables for that?

>>61606715

You only need TRS 1/4" cables if you have balanced outputs on the Pod X3 and balanced inputs on your interface.

>>61606676
this looks good actually but it is abandoned it seems last update in 2009

>>61603176
By twisting every knob and see how it affects whatever it is you're doing. Experimentation is the best way to learn stuff. Also Sadowick's Tutorials are pretty good.

>>61606356
http://blog.wavosaur.com/best-free-tb-303-emulation-sotware-vst-plugins-standalone/

>>61606786
The outputs of the Pod X3 are TRS, but the inputs of my Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 are just labeled as "2x XLR/1/4" Mic/Line Combo-Inputs"so i can't tell.

>>61606891

Yeah it's been about for a while and is 32-bit only - still works fine with Live 32-bit on Win 7 but if you're using a 64-bit DAW I'm not sure how well it plays with bridges.

>>61603225
how to i add slopes/curves to automation lines.

thus far i've been adding a few dots on the line to change the shape of it.

>>61606954
>Focusrite Scarlett 2i4

http://us.focusrite.com/usb-audio-interfaces/scarlett-2i4/specifications

Looks like you're in luck

>2 line/mic/instrument combination inputs - high quality XLR/ ¼ “ TRS Jack Combo

>>61607041
bridges suck honestly ive used cubase native bridge and it uses alot of cpu

its alot better to have 32 & 64 bit installed at the same time for older plugins and just bounce as audio

>>61607109
Oh, thanks. I just looked at the manual.

Seems like i'm gonna have to go buy TRS cables then, would it be bad if i used regular instrument cables for the time being? I don't want to brick anything.

>>61607118

That's exactly what I do - I have an old synth card (Yamaha SW1000XG) and a SCSI card for my sampler that will only work with XP, so I boot to XP when I need to use those items too.

>>61607065
hold alt and drag a line segment and it should curve it

>>61607154

Nope you're fine, you just won't get the benefits of a balanced line.

>>61599963
>https://clyp.it/3byp22ps
instead of vocals, add a guitar solo there m8. trust me, it will fit really really nice.

>>61607196
Thanks for the help, senpai. I love you

>>61599963
also: how did you achieve that evolving ( percusive) synth sound? it's driving me nuts

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>>61600194
at the very moment:
Roland VK-09 into Roland Cube 60
Yamaha CP-20 into a Kustom 16 watt

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arite lads heres a part of my new tune it feels a little stagnant and crowded any tips?
https://clyp.it/dkyy5giy

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>>61599942
shameless looking for constructive feedback/criticism. do your worst.

https://clyp.it/o4gkma2e

>>61607166
holy shit thank you

>>61605346
Ahh I see the Stem option. Ill work on my skills, thanks

hey guys retard here, just want to try some music cover
>DI or mic-ing?
>what's the difference between DAC (i've seen those stuffs on /g/) and Audio Interface?
>can I use DAC to record too? (like audio interface)
>I want to record my guitar, what's the best price/performance DAC or Audio Interface product?
>if I'm using the headphone (connected to audio interface), how do I hear the song (that I play with)?
>what's the best price/performance headphone in the market? (i'll ask /g/ later tho)

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>>61600194

>>61607969
>>DI or mic-ing?
Depends on the instrument. Keys? DI. Guitar? Miking. Bass? Depends on who is playing it and what they like.
>>what's the difference between DAC (i've seen those stuffs on /g/) and Audio Interface?
An audio interface features both a DAC and an ADC. DAC means it turns digital audio into an analog signal for listening, an ADC does the reverse of that to record a signal.
>>can I use DAC to record too? (like audio interface)
No.
>>I want to record my guitar, what's the best price/performance DAC or Audio Interface product?
Any 2in/2out interface, which usually run around the $120+ area. Most brands are on par with each other at this price point.
>>if I'm using the headphone (connected to audio interface), how do I hear the song (that I play with)?
I'm not quite sure I understand this question. There's usually some sort of mix knob to blend the analog inputs and the computer's signal.
>>what's the best price/performance headphone in the market? (i'll ask /g/ later tho)
/g/ is actually pretty good at headphones, but please don't take any other pro audio advice from them.
My favorite budget brands are Audio-Technica and Sennheiser

>>61607969
>DI or mic-ing
both if possible

>DAC
DAC stands for digital to analogue converter, it turns the digital 1s and 0s from your computer box into an analog voltage to drive speakers or headphones

>recording with a DAC
apart from in some very specific situations (like writing to DAT tape i guess) you don't record with a DAC. you record with an ADC - analog to digital converter - converting the analog voltages generated by a mic or synth or guitar into digital data that your computer can work with

the average audio interface does both AD and DA - you have your ADs for recording and DAs for headphones and monitoring

given that you're a retard, a saffire 2i2 or similar would do you

>>61608182
thanks bro, you help me a lot.

>>61608097
>ER1
gross

>>61600194
RME Raydat
Focusrite Octopre MK2
Behringer Ultramatch Pro SRC2496
M-Audio Midisport 4x4
2x Warm Audio TB12

DSI Prophet 08
MFB Dominion 1
Roland XV5050
Yamaha Motif ES
Novation Impulse 49

Audio Technica AT4050
Rode M3
2x Little Blondies

>>61608217
thanks pham, I think DI-ing path will enough now for me, I have strict budget also I need dock for my laptop so I can put all this USB thingy latter.

>>61608338
>prophet 08
Have you tried the Prophet 6?

I'm kind of hoping the price of the Prophet 08 drops as people switch from the 08 to the 6.

What do you think?

>>61608398
I haven't tried the P6 but i've been lusting after one, the addition of the highpass filter is really useful and from the clips i've listened to it sounds really nice. Compared to the P08 though, there's far fewer modulation sources which is disappointing - I'm using that and the price to stop me taking out the credit card

>I'm kind of hoping the price of the Prophet 08 drops as people switch from the 08 to the 6.
I bought the module version for a grand new and they've sold as low as like 800 quid on ebay recently - I get the feeling you're right and a lot of people will start selling theirs off. Hopefully for you they start going for even lower, I do really like the sound of the P08

>>61608243
the filter and tube amp help a lot

Does anyone know if LMMC is worth looking at?

I just bought ableton and am getting started with daws. Ive been into just synths before now, but id like to try my hand at some production. I considered reaper alongside ableton but went with ableton because it's a bit more standard. Regardless, I'm a Linux nerd and am curious opinions on LMMC

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Is there a way to hear effects you put on an audio track in ableton while recording? I can only hear them during playback.

>>61609197
last time i used lmms it sucked but that was in 2011 so maybe it is a bit better

you also have bitwig and ardour for options on linux

>>61609336
I've only ever heard their names in mocking contexts in the community. Are those tools worth exploring?

Lmmc seems alright but the interface is hard to digest. I just wish I could do my heavy lifting production from Linux...but maybe I'll just learn to love Windows more lol Idk

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>>61609313

You need to switch the monitor mode in Ableton to "In" so that you're, er...monitoring that input channel, while also switching off any direct monitoring that's happening via your audio interface, so that you monitor "through" Ableton

>>61609806

Be aware that, depending on your driver choice and buffer size, this will add a little latency.

>>61609573
i've heard good things about harrison mixbus, commercial daw that's based on ardour

>>61609806
>while also switching off any direct monitoring that's happening via your audio interface

I don't really know how i'm supposed to do that

>>61610096
on your audio interface there might be something called "monitor level" or "input vs daw mix"... just make sure the volume for that is down so you only hear what is coming from your computer.

>>61609573

people mock these softwares because other daws have been around for decades so of course these softwares arent going to be as advanced

imo there is no harm in trying them out and if you switch to windows you can still have them if you like them

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>>61600194
>Software
-Pro Tools
-Reason
-EASE
-LISA FEA
-Matlab
-Electroacoustics Toolbox
-Fuzzmeasure
-REW
-Praat
-RX
-'dobe Premiere
>Hardware
-about 40 mics of all ilk
-Tascam DR-40
-Akai EIE pro interface
-M-track interface
-Hammond M-102 organ
-custom 2ch/2sp Leslie cab
-Digitech RP-7 fx pedal
-Various mic pres
-Various guitar amps
-Keystation 88es
-Oxygen 8
-Ibanez AEF30 acoustic/lectric
-Squier Affinity Telecaster
-Peavey BXP4 bass
-Eggz™ plastic BB egg shaker
-Tin whistle

>>61611297
>-Matlab

what the heck do you do with that audio related ? like generate waveforms from equations

>>61611367
Nah I'm an acoustic engineer and Matlab is one of the main platforms for processing data. I don't like it though, but its power is pretty much when it comes to crunching data

>>61599942
thinking about learning to use reaper for mixing/mastering purposes (I am solely a reason 6.5 user atm). will I be able to make a better recording?

>>61608398
Not him, but I own a P8 and have played a P6. The P6 sounds slightly better than the 8, but not like almost double the price better.

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>>61612029
ive heard its nice from other people but never used it alot to be able to tell you i only breifly demoed it one weekend

>>61610939
I'm using a Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 and can't find such a thing.

Anybody have the Steinberg UR interfaces?

I have the UR44 and its pretty nice but the effect ins and outs suck and the DSP mixing software is retarded

>>61612715
it's the small knob that says input/playback next to the big monitor knob. all the way to input means direct monitoring of your ins while playback is what is coming from the usb-audio.

>>61612720
>Anybody have the Steinberg UR interfaces?
i have ur22 and it is decent but no effects built in
so i cant say on those

i use cubase and i think it has nice effect plugins

>>61612919
Weird, the only thing that changes for me when i turn it all the way to the right (playback) is that it gets louder and louder. I still can't hear the effects

>>61612983
oh i didn't read your original post there. afaik ableton applies the fx post-in, so it will come in clean and playback with the fx applied. that way it's not done destructively.

you should be able to hear it while monitoring/recording but the recorded sound file will be clean unless you resample it post-fx into another track/channel.

>>61613153
if the fx is on a send track you can press the "S" button on the send to solo and you should hear it in playback

can I get some feedback on this 1
https://clyp.it/ooz0iqh3

chord will be replaced w/ guitar and the end isn't supposed to go for that long whoops. this will eventually be a three piece band 4 da club with everything live except for the sub.

>>61608338

>8 mic Octpre interface
>4 mics + synths

so can you use your synths with the Octopre? Is there a way to connect those with mic cables or am I dumb

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>>61613650
desu they use something like this i bet because i looked at the octopre and it has no midi port

>>61605987
>>61605779

silly question: in order to get the "tape sound", couldn't you just bounce a DAW recording on to tape, or do you HAVE to record direct to tape?

>>61613860
You could do either, record individual tracks to tape and then back into the DAW, or just get a tape emulation plugin

>>61613860
there are plugins to emulate this type of thing like uhe satin is one i know about

i doubt plugins get you exactly the result you want but they might be worth checking out

>>61613650
The Octopre has combo inputs so they have both XLR and 1/4" TRS inputs. The P08/XV5050/Motif just go straight into the 1/4" line ins. That goes over ADAT to the Raydat card. Midi is all handled by the Midisport (which I need to replace cause I don't trust it) and the Raydat's two midi inputs.

The two Warm TB12 mic pres go into the Behringer which converts to AES which goes straight into the Raydat. I generally use the TB12s for the mics and to record DI guitar and the Dominion 1 (they have buttons you can use to select either mic, line or hi-z and like three different inputs so they're quite versatile and sound p. good)

This is all pretty cobbled together at the minute, I wanna replace the octopre and behringer with something like a Ferrofish A16 to use less rack space and get a slightly better idea of the input levels

>>61613798
>>61613650
MIDI:
MIDISPORT OUT -->[midi cable]--> SYNTH MIDI IN
SYNTH MIDI OUT -->[midi cable]--> MIDI SPORT IN

AUDIO:
SYNTH TS OUT -->[tip-sleave/instrument cable]--> OCTOPRE LINE IN
Pretty simple

>>61613860
Most people who do this record into DAW so they have a reference, then send the audio back out to tape, then record it back to DAW. You could do it a number of ways but commonly - group channels and send the groups to tape, track the master of your tape machine to your DAW (pre-limiting and DC offset). Keep in mind you will need to have two outputs per stereo channel.
There's lots of tape emu's out there which do the trick for me.
Waves' Kramer Tape, J37. UAD's Struder 800.

>>61614407
thanks for telling me

i dont have alot of hardware so i just assumed they use that cable

tfw poorfag

>want to make songwriting demos with basic percussive ideas
>make cringy beats when I try and make something in fl studio, even with amateur mixing and reverb plugins applied
any shortcuts for this sort of thing senpai?
I just need a basic beat that isnt the same every time and doesnt draw too much attention to sound good with a voice and acoustic guitar

>>61615215
Listen to more music that you want to create. Listen to it from a production point of view.

>>61615339
this is good advice t b h

ive heard it called as active listening

>>61615577
> active listening
That's it!

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Hey prod, ive been working on this song for a bit now, i need a second opinion before i release it, hows it sound? https://clyp.it/eznb5lno

>>61615613
one thing i like to do for this if the other elements of the track are distracting me is put it in my daw and cut the lows/mids/highs to focus on a certain element of the track

>>61615736
Having a proper monitoring set up, ie decent earbuds or monitors makes this easier.

favorite non cpu heavy plugins?

>Remember to use clyp.it to post your tracks/WIP : posting a clyp.it is just providing sound for a question, posting a soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.

First attempt at using an acapella with a beat. I like how it came out, didn't expect it to sync.
https://clyp.it/hm4pbw0k

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>>61599942

https://clyp.it/ctyy2zk0

Just got new Denon studio monitors, haven't taken advantage of them to improve my mix yet. But i still think it doesn't sound half bad.

>>61599942
yo i posted this in another thread but any feedback on it still would be super:

>>61617899

>>61615625
>https://clyp.it/ctyy2zk0

I like the percussion and hi-hats. The snares sound a bit loud, but that's nothing a little mixing wont fix. Keep it up mate!

>>61607572
if i were in an elevator, i might tap my fingers lightly against my leg, but id be embarrassed if someone saw me

>>61607442
write better drum part
its not helping

anyways yeah like i posted before this is an entirely sample-based track and i appreciate any feedback before i release it. for fans of folktronica/IDM:

https://clyp.it/pbxbqdws

>>61615625
second section is aight
dont like the rest

>>61606561
took a bit too long to fill in during the intro, otherwise I don't have much input sorry sen pai

What i'm working on atm, Thoughts? https://clyp.it/p5mehaf3

>>61619133
I will remember that for future beats, Thank you.

>>61615625
it sounds a little uninspired

>>61619147
I think you meant to say songs but you're welcome

>>61619138
The different string parts don't seem like they play together, more like they're just layered on top of each other without much relation. It's awfully busy, which I wouldn't say is a problem because that's more up to taste, I'm surprised the bass is so legato and plain. It manages to accomplish not cutting through the mix at all at the same time as taking up space. At around 5:10 I kinda want to kill myself with those whiny things going on, at least lower the volume. Try to emphasize something every now and then rather than just adding and removing parts. Think of the different voices involved.

>>61619038
still waiting for more people to give feedback on this track of mine :(

>>61619053
im honestly tempted to just make the second half the song, and take out the first part entirely, i agree its just better.
>>61618879
thanks for the feedback!
>>61619153
any way i can change that?

>>61619459
meant for
>>61619038
sorry guys

>>61619471
You need to have a more organic, persistent but not static lead melody I guess? I'm not an expert on your genre but that might give it a bit of an inspired flavor.

>>61619522
gotcha, so maybe switch up some chords and notes a little more often?

>>61603176
I've been looking up keyboard shortcuts and keeping a list of them printed out as I use it. I'm not sure if I should proceed with this or just get Push as that would involve learning a new workflow.

>>61619459
yeah i purposefully had a few guitar samples going over one another because if i had just one it would have sounded awful. this gives it more layering but i see what you were saying. it would have been worse if i didn't have that many layers going on.

>>61605712
sounds like it's just a sampler VST, which you can layer different samples over and play at same time instead of a single one which just does one sample... because they all seem to play same note (just different octaves).. and some of them are faster at higher notes

then delay/reverb ontop

even with one sample you can get the same sound. if you took a sample of some song or something and found a certian part you could get something that sounds like that

like make something with piano and different notes and a bass, then make it into audio and put into a sampler and you can fiddle around and get something like that.. higher notes will usually play faster so you can get them to 'merge' and play a harmony if you put the lower note further back

but getting it to sound good is easier if just single layers and not 1 sample

>>61606356
Venom VB-303 is pretty good. But it's intended for you to use the built-in 303 style sequencer rather than just your DAW's midi so it might be extra work. Although you'll get more 303-like sounds if you do it that way anyway since it's easier to get the slide/accents.

>>61619558
I guess it's not something you can fix with just samples. Sorry my suggestion wasn't too helpful.

>>61619781
it's fine man. i appreciate it either way.

>>61619459
Just a draft :) but thanks for the input.

Hey guys, I've got a Yamaha GO46, but it seems to be unstable on Windows 7 (had to use Vista drivers). Anyone have experience with this interface and know of a way to get it working consistently?

I have a PreSonus 22VSL but the Yamaha sounds better to my ears (with my microphones). I've got a PreSonus FireStudio Project as well but it blew it's power supply again... I've pretty much stopped using it because of how frequently I have to replace that part.

Could I get some feedback on something? Apparently the high end is too much, I think I may be too deaf.

https://soundcloud.com/hydeott/i-wanna-see-it-through/s-TWQgR

2011 c rf https://clyp.it/u1vsxlbm

>>61619038
dont like the drums at the start
its unique tho, i like it
>>61619138
hmm add more to it
>>61620075
i liked higher vocals more than the lower ones

heres what im working on/mixing i guess
https://clyp.it/owy151yn

>>61620239
I think the bass/melody part isn't cutting through as much as it should. Might be fixed by some EQ, if not maybe add some quiet fuzz on top of the original.

>>61603176
stop using clips

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>>61600194
too much

Hey guys,
I started studying music & production in a college. They're going to teach us Cubase for the first semester, then Ableton Live on the second one. I'm leaning more towards becoming professional on Ableton Live, but it seems like our Cubase lecturer is much better at Cubase than how good our Ableton lecturer is going to be at Live.

I'm debating whether should I spend the money on Cubase, Ableton Live, or even both since they're both going to be of use for me in the future as a producer/musician? I'm not that tight on money, but I'm also not willing to make a hundreds-of-dollars-worth of stupid moves. Thanks

>>61620795
>i will buy everything that i can get for cheap

>>61620879
>I started studying music & production in a college. They're going to teach us Cubase for the first semester, then Ableton Live on the second one
>american education

>>61620920
Israeli, actually
And if it wasn't clear we're learning the DAWs among a lot of other things (mainly music theory & keys, together with senses of tempo and musical hearning workshops, popular music in the last century and production fundamentals - and that's just semster 1)

>>61620795
holy shit
post your instruments please

>>61620920

I know they do this in Australia too. And probably a lot of countries.

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>>61620904
exactly... aside from my pre and my daw, I grab anything that processes sound for cheap. Easy way to get interesting sounds. I work in studios anyways, so I get to use the expensive shit all the time.

>>61621061
Not many really... but that is an old pic.
Juno 106
Prophet 6
A few casio keyboards
Korg Kaossilator
Monotron
Some weird motorized german organ
P Bass
Strat I found in the trash
Recorder from when I was a little kid
Harmonica from the same era
Old Yamaha drum machine
Glockenspiel that I cant seem to find until I need it

>>61621212
>Some weird motorized german organ
plz explain

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>>61621359
Correction: The first place I worked at had one of these and it was german... I would suppose this is an english knockoff. There is a speaker at the bottom and it sounds more like a siren/horn than an organ. Its pretty cool though.

Hey guys, I use FL Studio but I record like stoner/psychedelic rock with it. Is recording with FL studio that bad? I've had only a small amount of issues but it's post production value is amazing, makes it sound like it was made in a proper studio.

>>61621505
at the end of the day, what plays through the speakers is all that matters. No one cares how you got there.

>>61603176
I use FL studio, ableton is a pain in the ass.

Especially with recording, everything I recorded delayed at different intervals and shit. I know, I probably had the wrong settings, but FL studio never had that issue, everything went in synch fine (ironic considering the shit FL gets for recording)

>>61621092
>be Australian
>literally the only DAW was some shit program that helped you write music (with classical notation). That being said, we did get to fuck around alot and jam in the music room.

Fucking ATAR Jazz man.

>>61621458
a reed organ?

I have one but the buttons don't work I am thinking of ripping the guts and using it as a midi controller

>>61621662
I couldn't tell you anon... I don't know much about these things. The one at my work was much cleaner, think plastic wurlitzer sounding, but mine is pretty much a loud squelch/siren machine with a low motorized hum.

>>61620879
any opinions guys? jus looking for advice

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rate my studio /ck/

>>61623087
1/10

>>61603176
Get Bitwig Studio or FL Studio.

>>61604003
>>61604134
Reason is also total shit

>>61623087
Real studios have chocolate milk

>>61620879
If you are actually going to buy abelton then I suggest that you try to find some hardware that comes with a free copy.

>>61615625
Turn those snares down or add a filter to them

Hey /prod/ophiles I need some VST sound module and drum sample recommendations.

Currently using:
>Massive
>Serum
>Surge
>Albino
>Sylenth

>>61600194
>Maudio Delta Audiophile 2496 DAC
>Akai MPK mini MK2 controller
>Technics SUG75 amp
>Polk Audio Atrium patio speakers
My noob studio...

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https://clyp.it/hel2usge

why is future bass so hard to make and not sound like shit ;(

I keep hearing about plug ins and I always tried downloading them and I can never find out where to go for them can someone link me please

>>61623591
Doesnt sound bad actually, pretty unique I guess.. If you lower that high and make it a fat bassy low it would be a monsterous beat

>>61623737
http://rutracker.org/forum/index.php

>>61623749

The problem is I am using shitty $14 headphones so I just try to read the EQ. I am assuming most things I make have to little or too much bass.

>>61623806
Hey sounds better than anything Ive made and I have an audio interface and a midi .... Someone put me down

>>61605779
post your stuff pls, i'm intrigued to hear

>>61623545
You don't need that many VSTs.
Just foucs on mastering a couple and you'll be good to go for every song you want to make.

>>61624211
Im still in the discovery phase, I just want to get an Idea of other good stuff out there.

Can you tell me your personal top 3?

>>61600194
I've just started getting hardware, I've got so many hobbies these days between paying for my college, my figures and saving up for a mortgage I don't have much though. I love old Sound Modules and shitty toy keyboards.

>Roland SC-55
>Proteus E-Mu 2000
>Yamaha MU-128
>Yamaha PS-220

Anyone have any recommendations for cheesy, RPG sounding synths? I am saving up for a Korg Radias and a Roland Fantom XR.

>>61624279
Serum
Image-Line's Sytrus
Image-Line's Harmor

With these three synths I can do literally anything.
>saw leads, plucks, bells, basses, pads, percussion etc

I use Native Instruments' The Giant as well, but I don't count that as a synth because the sounds are samples.

>>61624430
classic Uematsu was apparently all roland sc88 and proteus 1

ff tactics was definitely written with a JV1080 or 2080 with the orchestral boards

>>61608243
best drum machine for under $200

>>61624450
Ive messed around with Harmor. It sounds amazing but half the time I dont even know what I am doing because its pretty extensive.

>>61624524
Watch this playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmnjRS_usmg&list=PLGYoE903Nir70nHIO0uIPsVU3jGkyyAbb

It's a pretty straightforward plugin once you get used to it.

>>61624611
its something about the visual style of it that makes it a bit confusing. most of the other VTSs i mess with have stuff in more visually defined spaces.

>>61624450
do you know of any youtube tutorials that make harmor and sytrus easier to understand? i get the premise of harmor and i do experiement quite a bit and eventually end up with an interesting sound, but i definitely cannot just build whatever sound yet. and sytrus is completely foreign to me still.

Hey guys so I would really like to get into all of this stuff but have no idea where to start. Is there a certain book or something I should star with?

>>61625134
Just experiment with every little knob and figure out what it does to audio.

>>61624724
Patience!
>>61624883
>>61624611 for Harmor
https://youtu.be/zGNoXnTNGlQ and the other parts for Sytrus.

Seamless is the only source for good and free FL tutorials.

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>>61625134
you can easily find this book in pdf if you know where to look.

if you are interested in learning how synths work watch this guys tutorial. its about modulars but most of this info easily carries over to virtual synths.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9tMFyKxbrI&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_al-r_90xYiuiz-3N8HZyf_

otherise chose a DAW and just start tinkering and watching tutorials.

FLstudio
>easy to get into, highly reccomended
Logic
Ableton
>insanely popular
LMMS
>muh freedoms

if you are going to get some hardware to start get a decent audio interface and a controller of some sort (preferably a keyboard).

>>61624515
Volca beats or sample and load it up with drum kits?

>>61605779
whoa how do you like your 388? Please post some music!

I'm currently using a Saffire Pro 40 and like it a lot. I want to get a different 'colored' sounding preamp to complement it. Looking to spend <$500. Any recommendations?

>>61625984
GAP Pre 73

>>61626016
>GAP Pre 73
thanks m88

>>61607390

I think you mean the arpeggio in the background? Its the only thing thats really automated/evolving. It's a bandpass filter with quite high resonance on a nice piano plugin for kontakt. And I might apply a guitar! Been working together with this dude and he plays really good, ill check for his input.

>>61603065

Thanks! Having trouble finding some, I sampled too much asmr already and my motown acapella pack aint cutting it this time. Might try some acoustic guitar as advised by another anon

>>61605449

Thanks dude! Will make sure to pan out the elements more and im all for more sexy keys.

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>>61625984
The Studio Projects VTB-1 can be had bready cheep nowadays.
>clean gain
>very Hi-Z input
>nifty toob blend does just that
>insert/send
>mic and line output
>cool retro looks
>build not unlike a tank
>will add character, flair, and panache to even the most meager of productions

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I'm debating whether I should get an APC40 MKII or a Launchpad Pro. I'm not going to do any gay ass launchpad videos. I'm using it for live shows with Ableton Live.

>>61612720

I have the ur242 but I don't use the effects.

>>61612720
I've got the UR22 for my mobile rig. It's actually great. Sturdy as fuck, can take a beating, not to mention has MIDI IO which is fucking brilliant. Powers my high-impedance, multi-driver earbuds in a way that doesn't colour the sound.

I don't think the UR22 has DSP mixing software, but I don't need it for what I do. No issues.

general question

I hear people talking about "mixing between the lines", getting full seperation and a space for each instrument to sit snugly in the mix.

It's clicked for me recently that if i boost frequencies on one instrument i should subtract those freq's from the other's that compete with it (frequency wise). It's made a huge difference for clarity. Any other tips like this that will help in getting a clean, seperated mix?

>>61626458
Multiband compression.

>>61626458
use something like proQ where you can solo and sweep a band up and down the frequency spectrum on the master track to see what is fighting for space

>>61626458
> if i boost frequencies on one instrument i should subtract those freq's from the other's that compete with it (frequency wise)

I think if you just subtract frequencies in general it makes space for other instruments (perhaps vocals) that are competing for that space. Boosting can add unwanted resonance, unless you're shelving the low and highs a bit you shouldn't really bell-curve boost anything unless that's the effect you're going for.

Mix your percussion how you would expect to hear it if you were to watch a performance. This goes for dance and hip-hop as well. Percussion to me is probably the single loudest thing in the mix (compared to everything else) but it's something I spend the most time on to make sure it's right.

>>61626542
Multiband won't fix an already cluttered mix.

>>61626549
>use something like proQ

I second this. Common practice for cutting unwanted frequencies is to boost it to an audible level to hear it, then cut it. Pro-Q makes it easier to do this by being able to solo the bands, but I don't use it exclusively.

>>61626458
Spatially, or sonically- everything should have a place and purpose in the mix. When you're introducing or mixing new elements in your production, you should have a rough idea what purpose it serves. For example.

- This is going to be my sub bass, to make sure it's not competing with space in the sub frequencies I'm going to a number of things;
a) Side-chain it if the track style suits it
b) Write a bassline that doesn't fall on any or all kickdrum hits
c) tune or EQ the kick so that the bass doesn't cause constructive phase issues with it, or tune it in a way that it does tastefully (only under controlled circumstances like tech/house music for example)
d) write a bassline in a higher register
e) gate or use a shorter kickdrum sample

If I decide the sub bass needs character, I might duplicate the bass track, add some sort of distortion/saturation or change/tweak the patch if I'm working with a synth, then I'll do a steep cut of the fundamental frequencies so that they are not competing. Be warned as this will also add constructive phasing, maybe intended, but it will eat your headroom up.

>>61599963
iz dope mang

loved the percussion, but IMO:
- its a little jarring when it first starts
- you should variate it every few bars

>>61600194
A mouse and a guitar hero mic because I'm fucking poor

I used logic for a little bit on a friend's max and holy shit it felt perfect to use. Looks like I'm hackintoshing cuz I can't afford a real mac

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>>61627119

how do you guys get over writers block? seems like anything i've produced recently has sounded like absolute shit to me and nothing is coming through, been this way for at least two months

>>61600194
I have
>Yamaha DX7 IIFD
>Kurzweil k2500s
>70's Farfisa organ
>Multi effects pedal from Boss
>Sennheiser HD215 cans

But so far I've only made trax by clicking around in FL studio because i'm too retarded to connect MIDI

>>61627245
there are two kinds of creative people anon. there are artists who require inspiration and passion to create their work, and there are hacks whose job it is to create XYZ because that's what they do. A lot of artists have done hackwork at times, and vice versa, but generally these are two different categories and completely different MOs.

now, which are you? if you're a hack you need to stfu and get to work because the kids need their beats and shit. if you're an artiste you need to find your inspiration. when's the last time you found something truly beautiful and inspiring, or truly horrifying and distressing? do you even feel, friend?

>>61627424
actually successful musicians seem to say much more often that it's about just putting the work in than finding inspiration

>>61627424
nah I deal with mental illness out the ass, kinda kills feelings. I've done enough hackwork in my days, guess I should look for inspo somewhere.

>want to do post-rock, shoegaze and black metal
>can't play guitar for shit
what do

>>61627245
Write and record shit until your brain makes diamonds. Never stop.

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>>61627497
man i know that all too well. i used to write great music but i had kind of a breakdown a few years ago, and it killed something inside. people still think i write great music (albeit rarely) because i find unfinished projects from "before" and hack them out into something that people think is new

>>61627544
keep practicing at it until your fingers hurt, repeat every day until you're decent at it. i believe in you.

>>61627549
trying that but nothing really comes through so I get frustrated at myself.

>>61627544
i fail to see the problem

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https://clyp.it/vst2ztuc

Could I please get some feedback on this? I have decided to leave it bare vocally. I was going to use vox, but decided against it. Any opinions and feedback are welcome.

>>61627602
>>61627593
But i'm primary a drummer and i can't find people with simar tastes that want to create music

>>61627629
Yeah i'm a drummer too usually, but when you really can't find anybody you gotta take matters into your own hands I guess

>>61627627
The snare needs to be replaced, the mix itself sounds thin, might want to consider using a pad or two to flesh it out.

I'm so fucking poor

Ever since I was a child I dreamed of being a music producer

I wish I had money

My dreams are ruined

>>61627818
:(

>>61627818
fuck

>>61627245
Listen to more music and write down notes or record every little silly idea that comes to you when you're taking a shower or a walk, or a shit. You can't be a producer and a composer simultaneously, at least most of the times.

>>61627544
Get Kontakt Libraries and do it with MIDI, or record someone else playing your ideas.

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I have no idea what I'm doing but I made this today https://clyp.it/lbhy0zev

will make percussion more interesting another time

>>61627818
damn...

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Working on releasing a coherent ambient EP/Album of ~30 minutes what do you think of my 2 first tracks?
( I've no idea why there is two additional minutes of silence after the second one )

https://clyp.it/0nudi40f
https://clyp.it/lwj4gnnh

>>61627627
Nice violin-thing
I like it

I agree with >>61627767 about the mix being thin and maybe lacking bass frequencies at some points, not so sure about the snare
Your drums may be too loud during the ?chorus

>>61627584
Damn

>>61628101
Powerball hit $1.3 billion today

What would prod do with $1.3b?

>>61627147
Use Ableton. There is nothing in Logic that isn't in Ableton, it's just that the learning curve for Logic is gentler.

>>61628101
what is that

Out of curiosity, how many of yall suffer from depression or another mental illness? It seems quite common amongst laptop producers (and I have a few theories as to why).

>>61628267
The circlejerking has begun.

>>61628267
>depression
somewhat

>>61628350
true

https://clyp.it/hci3xyzi

Any ideas on how to make the chorus transition a bit punchier? Also please do tell me if the synths aren't fitting with the guitars.

>>61628267
boderline personality disorder, not that it helps with my producing at all

>>61628144
>What would prod do with $1.3b?
Buy a house in the Welsh mountains install a decent sized studio at the end of the garden. fill it with gear. advertise it so I can hang out and produce music for musicians.
Oh and never go to work again.

Is it easier to just learn what these knobs and slider and all that shit do on Fl or to fuck around with them?
I don't really hear a difference when I modify some of these...

>>61626152

I was thinking of something like Deborah Anderson's vocals on Alex Reece's Feel The Sunshine - not totally blissed out like asmr stuff but lazy and languid with loose timing.

I'd find someone who can sing a little rather than using an existing sample - the song sort of deserves it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqp8gDPmyBI

>>61628101
this is actually cool even if it could do with some fleshing out

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hey /prod/ look what i found.

Hey /prod/, I'm looking for a few random pieces of gear. Wondering if anybody has recs...

1. Variable Speed Tape Transport. I work with a lot of samples and currently change the speed digitally (which, of course, produces a lot of artifacts). I also use a tape transport, but it only has 2 speeds. I'm interested in either a 1/4" or casette unit.... Probably casette cuz I doubt I have the money to drop on a nicer 1/4" transport.

2. Resonator plugin (for logic pro). I used to use a plugin in another program (absynth, I think?) that would boost the harmonic frequencies in a gorgeous way. The only thing Logic has similar to this is an exciter, but it sounds really shitty.

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I need your help guys.
So i decided to plug my amps outputs into my audio interfaces inputs to record my guitar, but for some reason, even though the left and right input on my interface and in ableton are on the exact same level i get pic related. The right output is a lot quieter than the left. Is this normal? Certainly doesn't seem like it. I'm fearing my interfaces inputs might be borked?

Here is the soundclip from the pic related

https://clyp.it/kd1xunpm

Interface is Focusrite Scarlett 2i4

How do i get this good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO-YilLLra0

>>61628144
get a decent house, turn one room into a studio, get some gear and a new drum set, find a decent part time job so i have something to do, eat taco bell
idk what else i'd do.

>>61629191
>Resonator plugin

Stillman Audio Tinman is what comes to mind first, although frequency shifter/comb filter combinations like some of the Ohm Force plugins (Hematohm and ohmygod!) would get some good resonant ringmod type effects too.

>>61629311
If it makes you feel any better, I don't really like this from a composition point of view. Interesting and super fun as a producer, but I can't imagine anyone jiving to this unless it gets "hip"

>>61629501
*Stillwell Audio

>>61629274
if you swap the cables around you will see whether it's your amp or your interface

does anyone have any good book recommendations on Mastering?

I have The Secret Master Engineer by Bob Katz, but it's only 17 pages long.

Just wanna know if there's anything more thorough out there

>>61628896
Yeah that's exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. Something like Roisin Murphy from Moloko or The Submotion Orchestra would be great... A man can dream.

Nice track!

>>61629065
it's a bit on the cheap looking side, but seems rather functional. be careful when sharpening and make sure you keep it away from children.
apart from that, it's a nice book.

>>61629523
i don't see it playing in clubs either, but it's pretty comfy listening at home

>>61629274
are you using L/R line out on your amp?

>>61630500
yes of course

Hey guys, hoping I could get some feedback on this (unmixed) track. I excluded the second half

https://clyp.it/r5vayrwt

>>61630549
Make sure your input gains are set correctly and that your Hi-Z is the same setting for both sides. What interface do you have?

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Guys, what's the cheapest way to make music like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVY2ERXkNgY

I already own a macbook and a microbrute

can someone hook a nigga up with some breathing samples?

like, either one shots of breathing in and out or a loop or something. or at least point me in the right direction?

>>61630765
gotchu senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRfj1VCg16Y

>>61630765
Look up shit on youtube.

>>61628486
The synths sound a bit distant, almost like an afterthought. I like it, but if that's not what you're going for I'm just telling you what my impression of that is.

>>61630599
I already said in my original post that all gains are set to the exact same level, and i also said what interface i am using.

>>61630862

Is your amp outputting the same level on both left and right channels? Swap the cables at one end to see if the imbalance also swaps sides.

>>61629501
sweet, thanks anon. will check out

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Can someone explain to me how to use patches
I recently got picture related and wanted to get into using them but have no clue at all how to get sounds onto here

>>61630964
Yeah i switched the cables and now the right channel is louder than the left, so i guess its most likely the amp is the issue, but according to my amp the outputs are both on the same level.

>>61628267
>and I have a few theories as to why
such as?

>>61631059
read the manual

>>61631059
read the manual

http://www.manualslib.com/manual/358045/Casio-Cz-1.html

>>61629191
i remember seeing some tutorial somewhere for making a diy variable speed cassette player.

>>61631059
read the manual

>>61631129

What amp are you using - are you the same guy who posted a while back about having a Pod X3?

If you're using the Pod X3, then I'd say that looking at output level controls is only useful if you already know that the amp preset you're using is perfectly balanced left/right - otherwise you can't assume that the controls perfectly relate to levels.

I'd investigate the preset you're using.

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>>61600194
Don't have much on the hardware side although to invest in a decent synth this year. My setup is;

PC running ableton 9
Roland SH01 (mainly for the longer keyboard)
ESI near08 monitors
Line 6 UX1
SammichSID 8bit synthetic
Akai APC40

use mainly VSTs in my productions;
Spire
Hive
Sylenth
Omnisphere
Massive
Various Eastwest packs including Hollywood strings

guys should I buy an MPC2000? Are there any good alternatives? I want to move away from computers a little desu I get distracted too easily

Someone might have experience with this. I'm currently working on a track (that DOESN'T sound like shit, finally!) with Ableton and a Microbrute. The Microbrute is, as you may be able to guess, playing the bassline, and I'm using the External Instrument on a MIDI channel to send a loop to it. However, despite having effects lined up after the external instrument, they don't effect the sound at all, and I can't seem to adjust the volume with anything but the Microbrute's master volume knob, which seems like it'll fuck me once I've got everything worked out and I'm ready to master. wat do

>>61630862
>Focusrite Scarlett 2i4
Okay, you didn't answer my question if the line/instr are set the same...

>>61628884
Your post makes no sense at all.

>>61631694
Do you make money from your music?
That's a lot of expensive stuff.

>>61632517
>That's a lot of expensive stuff.

Not that guy but it seriously isnt

>>61631790
They're really good, but you tend to deal with more little time constraints using them, and I'm not a fan of the way looping works on them

>>61632538
It's expensive if you don't make any music off your music.

for a live set is just a drum machine and a synth that youve already put a few sequences into beforehand enough to play for techno or do i need more

>>61632595
It really isn't

You could buy everything there working three weeks at any minimum wage job with little expenses

Maybe a month if you have a lot of expenses

>>61632517
I have a similar set up and roughly the same number of insturments. It's a few thousand but not totally crazy, if a few thousand over the course of 4 years isnt totally crazy for you.

JUST A REMINDER. You dont need a third of this shit to make good music

>>61632626
except for the computer that is

>>61632620
Sky's the limit.

>>61632626
>tfw student
Life sucks.

>>61632620
and by techno i meant gabber

>>61632517
live at mom's, work full time, disregard females, buy gear

>>61632676
get a job

I worked while I went to school for the sole purpose of buying synths and alcohol

>>61632696
No time for job.
Oh wait, I can work night and get 0 hours of sleep!

Haha...

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>>61631983

I don't use them much either but I just tried it there - image related.

To get it to work the way I'd expect I had to make sure that audio was coming into Ableton on the audio input it expected - this gets set in the external instrument panel, otherwise you'll still hear the audio since it is reaching your interface, but Ableton won't patch it through the External Instrument.

FYI I'm using an Alesis Multimix 16 USB 2.0 mixer/interface with a Roland MKS-7 synth plugged into channel 10 on the mixer and routed to Ableton.

I also routed the channel to an unused audio output on the mixer (effectively muting it post-fader) so that Ableton got the direct output from the channel and that was all I would hear - if your interface has a way of disabling direct monitoring of the input you have a better chance of knowing when you have Ableton configured properly.

>>61632517
you act like people just drop all that money on gear in one purchase

most people do not do that

Can anybody recommend me a 32 or 49-key MIDI keyboard that's not bulky?
No mini please.
I don't need pads or sliders.

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>>61600194
most notable gear:

tx81z
juno 106
esq-1
er-1
505
vestax mr66
midiverbs

Just about all of them were either craigslist or local stores. Currently saving up for a rack and an mpc and in the meantime making straight to tape acid jams while my interface gets replaced from the manufacturer

>>61632720
how many hours a week are you in school/doing schoolwork?

>>61632676
you get student discount on lots of audio software and it is usually about half off

>>61632210
all inputs are set to Line and not Inst if thats what you mean, and both knobs are on the same level

>>61632816
we've figured out it's not the interface from the old switcharoo

now for another switcharoo where you swap the cables in the back of the amp to see whether it's the cable itself

>>61632805
40 hours of school, 10 hours of homework.
I live with my family and I usually work during the Summer, but I don't earn enough to buy anything fancy-

Only 2 more years...

>>61632812
Not on the shit I want.

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>>61632780
you forgot the plushie shark anon

>>61628104

>tfw cursed to never get feedback

Don't requesting any particular attention ( i know ambient can mean boring shite ) but seriously that's like the sixth clyp in a row i post here over around two weeks that doesn't get any attention

>>61632925
It would be mean to call Finnigan gear

>>61632920
tfw

im a poorfag also though so i feel you

i rely on my daw stock plugins and free give aways

>>61632937
Here's some feedback:
More needs to happen in them.

Is there any real advantage to using a 64 bit version of a DAW over the 32 bit version besides obvious compatibility issues?

>>61632626

Well I've bought all my equipment over a few years as I have other expenses to pay for. But altogether I've probably spent about £2000 on hardware, and that doesn't include the £2-3000 I've spent on software. So no, you couldn't buy all that off a months worth of money.

>>61632998
Heh

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>>61632981
>Finnegan
i like that name! i wish i had a plushie. i just have an alien fœtus

>>61633033
Then you vastly overpaid. You can get apc40's and sh01's very cheap used and aside from the pc the monitors, stompbox, ux1 shouldn't set you back that far. Dunno how it works in the UK though but for all that 3500 dollars sounds ridiculous.

>>61633032

32bit limits you to 4gb of ram. If you're using a lot of intensive software or synths (especially high end orchestra type like the eastwest packs) or are writing tracks with 30+ channels using vsts then it's better using 64bit so you can utilise more memory. I've got 16gb at the moment and intend to bump it up to 32gb soon

>>61633092
That's still pretty fuckin awesome

On my other wall where my synths used to be I have a big I WANT TO BELIEVE POSTER

space music is best music

>>61607390
filter cutoff and an automation clip...

>>61633091
No seriouslly.
Ambient music is more than just pads and slow tempo

Here's a snippet from the "climax" of something I'm working on https://clyp.it/cfww2024

>>61633095

I got my apc and gaia new when they came out so there wasn't the option for 2nd hand. And I don't use pirate software, I'd rather support developers than be a cheapskate. Plus cracked copies always tend to be glitchy as fuck, and you risk any copyrights and contracts if you get caught out.

>>61627818
You don't need to buy a studio to learn how to be a music producer nowadays. If you can afford an ok PC you can pirate everything and learn. Which I am assuming you can since you're posting on 4chan
Unless you are a homeless man who posts from his phone or something

>>61633195
Just to make sure though I'm not speaking at all about the software. Just the hardware since that other anon was convinced you have to make money with music to buy hardware. Also that blows about the gaia considering you can get them for like 200-300 bucks now. There's one on my local craigslist that could probably be had for 300 easy

http://limaohio.craigslist.org/msg/5346757662.html

>>61633137
You know what inspires me? This shit. It has at least 5 magical moments.

https://youtu.be/2aCOyOvOw5c

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>>61633211
>homeless guy posting in /prod/

>>61633247

Well it's true you don't need loads of money to make music, but I've just built up a setup I like. One of my favourite bits of kit is the SammichSID, it's a diy kit based on 2 SID chips from a commodore 64

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>>61633267
my fuckin nigga

one of my friends is huge into astrophotography and space and thats all we really talk about

really inspires me to make spacey jams

>>61633287
Yeah and I'm trying to say that with a bit of patience and researching you can get some nice gear for cheap and having hardware doesn't make you some kind of faggot if you don't make money from music

>>61633137
>space music is best music
Couldn't agree more anon.

How come everyone is so fucking skint in /prod/ does no one even go to work here

>>61633123
>>61633032
each process can use more than just 4gb of memory so if your computer only has 4gb cause you are poor like me then it doesnt really matter what version you want to use unless you have plans of upgrading in the near future.

>>61633344

Well unless you tour or are selling top 40 tunes it's hard to make money from sales. But I just enjoy making music and that's what matters to me

>>61633390
well probably a big number of posters are teenagers still

What kind of 500 series modules do you people have?

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>>61633323
Yeah that's cool. Funnily enough I'm not a big spacehead or space music freak, although I do love muh night tography. I just love space science of exploration, and sound recording. The booster rockets video is so fucking unique there's really absolutely nothing like it in human history. I'm so glad they made that video.

Pic related, one of my star trails shots

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Sup /prod/?

I would like to build pic related to use for /prod/ related stuff and some casual tier gaming.

I have a spare 500GB hard drive that I can install so I dont need to buy one for now.

Did I do good?

>>61633032
32 bits limits you to 4 GBs of RAM.

>>61633531
i think this is a decent build

i would use the 500gb hd for storing projects and shit on

>>61633427
Do teenagers not work anymore either then? I was pot washing to get money when I was 13, shit I had more money when I was between 15 and 19 years old than I do now.
>living at home with mummy
>no bills or mortgage to pay.
>no children to feed and cloth
>no vehicles to insure, tax and fuel.
>every penny you earn goes into your pocket tax free
Now by the time all the bills have gone out and foods been eaten there's barely a pot to piss in here

>>61633689
I just got back from the grocery store and everyone working there is 15-17. Sexy teen-aged boys for days!

>>61633689
this is true i had a job when i was 16 in fast food and i made enough to buy a decent guitar pretty quickly because i had no bills or financial responsibility

https://clyp.it/0ikdgjsu

Please rate lads, worked really hard on it desu.

>>61633897
post lyrics

>>61633984
l am a Poz-Cuckold. You want to know what that is? Well, let me explain.

The normal cuckold wants just one gift from his black bull: A black child. But the Pozz-cuckold wants more. He wants three gifts. We are greedy little bitches. But first, here's how it goes.

Normally I drive in my Mercedes to a street gym where ripped blacks train their muscles, there skin shining with sweat and the air filled with their scent. I am already a bit hard just from thinking about it. Sometimes I cum a bit in my pants. I get out of the car and ask who of them has AIDS. Then they know what happens.

The black man with AIDS gets into my car and we drive to somewhere isolated. Then I take a small knife and stick it inside the hole of my penis and twist it a little. In the cuckold community we call this the AIDS twister. Sure it hurts and causes me to bleed. But it is worth it.

Then the black man docks me until we both cum and I contract his AIDS. I already have 4 types of AIDS from this. That is the first gift. Then we drive on to my house and he fucks my wife, who has also contracted many types of AIDS. That is the second gift. And then 9 months later the third and best gift arrives: a black child who also has AIDS.

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thread's about to drop off the cliff. it's been a pleasure, see you guys in the afterlife/next thread

>tfw student slug
>spent the last 6 months profiting slowly but steadily from sports betting
>lose 80% of what I've earned in that time over last month

please no

I don't chase losses or anything and I've genuinely just been incredibly unlucky over the last few weeks. The thing is, I'm now a gambling addict, since I've used it as my main source of income for a while. I know I'll just keep putting dimes into by betting bankroll until all of my money is gone. I spend all day looking up obscure Taiwanese youth women football matches or whatever; my main source of addiction is that I'm scared of missing an incredible misprice or something

sorry for incredibly off topic but yeah we're talking about both money and mental illness to an extent, so I'll throw this out there and get it off my chest