funk punk is good punk

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>>54914169
does this cunts?

>>54914169
>funk
Which songs?

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not necessarily

see also: RHCP

pop punk > garage punk > post-hardcore > hardcore > punk blues > funk punk > metal crossover > skate punk > ska punk

jesus christ, why do all the indie kiddies on this board have so much of a stiffy for that album? It's good but it's all you drones ever seem to post in punk threads.

>>54914326
Top kek

>>54914341
What punk would you post from this dead genre?

>>54914341
punk threads on /mu/ suck shit. Everybody here is into pop-punk because muh 90s, twinkly midwest emo or whatever the fuck it's called, and a good 50% of posters don't understand the different between punk and post-punk. Just don't bother with it.

>>54914341
Thats because /mu/ like punk in the same way that someone who owns an album by Johnny Cash, Hank Sr and townes Van Zandt likes country

>>54914373
Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material
X-Ray Spex - germ free adolescents
X - Los Angeles
Dead Boys - Young Loud And Snotty

>>54914421
This. Minutemen is a short trip from college garage rock. The fact that they're an SST band is the only punk thing about them. Double Nickels on the Dime is total shit.

>>54914326
stealing subgenres list from u

post hardcore>folk punk>pop-punk>hardcore>skate punk>funk punk>metal crossover>punk blues=garage punk = ska punk>>>>crust punk, anarcho punk, d-beat etc.

>>54914341
Because it's better than any other 'punk' album, probably due more its post-punk leanings than anything else. It's pulls off being catchy, ambitious and experimental at the same time, which hardly any albums (in any genre) actually achieve.

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>>54914459
I think this is acceptable for a good punk thread

>>54914326
im guessing by pop punk you mean Jawbreaker, Descendants, etc? i really hope you're talking about that and not pizzacore lol

>>54914492
until you post at least three example of each subgenre I'm not going to believe you enough to have your opinion even considered

anybody look at the 'related genres' section on the wiki page and order then randomly with some greater than signs thrown in, and as far as I know thats just what you did

>7.8 / 10 - I replied with two paragraphs

>>54914492
This still sucks

>>54914326
Post-Hardcore>Hardcore>Post-Punk>Funk Punk>Crossover>Blues Punk>Crust Punk>Garage Punk>Skate Punk>Pop Punk>Ska Punk

>>54914373
the classics are still classics; Jawbreaker, Drive Like Jehu, Husker Du, Fugazi, etc etc

new stuff (proving it's not dead): joyce manor, title fight, pile, winter break

>>54914548
Jawbreaker is more emo than pop punk imo, also descendents could either be lumped in with melodic hardcore or pop punk but most of their fan base lumps them in with the hardcore scene

>>54914542
yeah but only technically - they really weren't a punk band by that time.

Stretching the definition of punk with posts like that is part of the reason every punk thread devolves into a 'thats not punk' argument

Of course how far the definition of punk can be stretched is also what makes it an interesting genre - if you define it to rigorously it was dead by 1984 if not earlier.

>>54914582
I agree with you most so far >>54914583 Joyce manor kindve sucks but title fight and pile are great

>>54914600
so what pop punk bands are in your head while putting that as the #1 subgenre?

>>54914169
>>>/tumblr/

>>54914583
you didn't list any classic punk there.

even Husker Du wasn't classic punk in my book. Heavily punk influenced, sure, but they expanded on it and made classic records, but I wouldn't call them classic punk - for that I think of tThe Ramones, The Clash, The Damned, Sex Pistols, Germs, Dead Kenedys, Crass

>>54914618
Didn't they start out as a hardcore band, like their first album metal circus had enough cred to consider them punk or hardcore they just expanded their sound in later albums.

>>54914557
yeah, pretty much

>>54914676
yeah, thats why I said 'by that time'

and even Metal Circus or Land Speed Record had a very different sound than 70's punk

>>54914634
Tbh I never really went anywhere near the genre of pop punk because of bands like blink 182 and greenday. I just don't really care for the genre

>>54914675
i'm not saying classic punk as in the same context of classic rock, i should have been more clear. those are punk bands who have released classic albums.

>>54914526
no, it's just white boy funk songs with vaguely political lyrics sung by a sub-par vocalist, something that Gang of Four and even RHCP did much better. There's really nothing experimental about them.

>>54914703
But I think most people in the early 80s were starting to accept the sounds of early hardcore as punk though.

>>54914548
more like Ramones, Undertones, Buzzcocks actually. Jawbreaker is ok too.

I would call The Minutemen art punk.

>>54914492
i counted crust punk, d-beat as metal crossover... together with grindcore, crossover thrash, some hardcore and metalcore.
folk punk would rank probably after metal crossover for me. not sure about anarcho punk as most of the stuff i really like from it is more post-punk sounding.
oh yeah art punk is probably after skate punk.

Am I hallucinating right now or is /mu/ finally starting to hate on The Minutemen? I guess we can cross that one off the list, now the only musical sacred cow we have left is Big Star.

>>54915355
Big star sucks, Alex chiltin is an overrated hack

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Can't believe no one mentioned THE punk/funk band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU6YX4P4SH8&index=9&list=PL30CD3539B02FA6F4

Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of Heat > What Makes a Man Start Fires? > Double Nickels On The Dime

>implying 'funk punk' is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzuxjQMn4OM&index=20&list=PL30CD3539B02FA6F4

>>54915835
Personally i go Double Nickels,,,, What Makes A Man..., Buzz or Howl.

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23 Skidoo - Seven Songs

Excellent album 9/10

>>54915912
closer to dub/reggae than funk, really

>>54916038
True, I was gunna say something like that in post.

>>54914373
there are thriving punk scenes in every city in america u melon

>>54914326
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! HAAHAAHAAHAAA!!!!! snort ,chuckle.

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>thinking punk is in any way dead

whats your favorite 2015 release guys? Mine is between this and Gay Kiss' new album.

>>54916042
This is a good dub record. All their later work is shit though.

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This count?

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>>54916178
oh and the flex's new EP

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>>54916178
I haven't come across much punk records in 2015. The only good thing is the Red Death - Permanent Exile so far. Mischief Brew and Red Dons are going to release new records this spring, and both will most likely become my AOTYs.

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>>54914169
No thanks, I prefer my funk uncut

>>54916038
If it isn't entirely sampled then it isn't dub so it's nothing like dub.

>>54916178
I haven't heard anything special yet, though that has more to do with me not listening to that much punk this year compared to the last few years than anything else.
In any case I can't wait for the new Gag album.

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Best punk albums of all time:
Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
Butthole Surfers - Psychic...
The Velvet Underground & Nico

Best post punk albums of all time:
This Heat - Deceit
Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves
Alternative TV - Vibing up the Senile Man

>>54916910
Goddamnit I hate Pere Ubu. Terrible music, and is nothing like punk at all.

>>54916951
>and is nothing like punk at all
True. They are actually good.

David Thomas is probably one of the best male vocalist of rock.

>>54914169
I actually didn't like this album at all. People told me I would enjoy it because I liked Zen Arcade but this just didn't do much for me.

I honestly dislike folk punk in general. I feel like it combines the worst aspects of both genres.