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>tfw my bassist is a p4k drone a hardcore fagtano fan.
Musician Feels General
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Does he post here?
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>>51207117
I don't talk about 4chin in public, but possibly.
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Fuck yo musician feels, time for some roadie feels!

>load all your heavy ass equipment into the van
>take it to the gig
>unload all that heavy ass equipment
>set it all up
>check everything
>double check everything
>triple check everything
>you get up on stage, everyone cheers you on
>you do your little song and dance and the girls show you their tits
>you go backstage and get your dick sucked
>I pack everything back up and haul it away to your next gig
>I do all the hard work
>you do jack shit
>not one person notices my existence
>everyone sucks your dick
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>>51207469
damn
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>Can't get a job
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>>51207469
>not using your backstage access to make well established connections
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>>51207110
Find another bassist. There are plenty out there that aren't faggots.
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>all band ads in city are for breakdowncore chug riff stuff
>see a new post to start a band influenced by PiL and Big Black
>go to message the guy
>fb cover is le epic needle drop fartano meme
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>tfw everytime i play, its generally in 80bpms and i don't know why
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>been making music for a long while now, like more than 7 years, just tinkering away
>ive shown improvement each time i get something done
>feeling im racing against time, i want to get my ideas down fast and get everything done
>lately i havent been able to sleep because im wanting to get shit down and the drugs
>each time i try to get something down i feel empty or burned out
>force myself to record something to maybe edit it later
>do this alot and end up with alot of shit
>dont want to sleep or quit, but im not getting any excitement as i used to when i first started
>but the excitement and vision is there as i vision the finished product, i have some idea that still wants to get out.
>each time i decide to work, i feel tired from the loss of sleep and burned out or warped.
>i dont want to quit and time is ticking.
>i have to get something done and get it finished
>my record is 30 minutes of material in 2 weeks albeit minimal and less structured.
>i want to be able to make alot of shit in a short amount of time with feeling and thought.
>look at techniques or ways to make my computer come up with melodies and rhythms so i can work with it later.
any suggestions?
I heard there are programs out there that play your vsts with calculations and shit and monkey drummers to help you out.

I want my machines to make music so i can sleep and get some rest
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>this person does not share my exact musical taste
>doesn't even into post-avant Asian baby wailing
>repulsive
>I must find another bassist
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Thats not really a feel OP thats just you being pretentious and a bad friend if you actually care
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>>51207110
>tfw my drummer listens to nothing but the red hot chilly peppers
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>Mfw my two bandmates only listen to Arctic Monkeys, Eric Clapton and Royal Blood
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>>51208300
Try Harmony improvisator vst with a random midi input generator.
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>>51207110
>tfw work my ass off in college to get a BMus
>get a decent job, doing what I studied
>after a few years get kinda bored, decide to get more into STEM
>bust my ass and go into foreverdebt doing 2-year masters degree
>tfw employers want to hire me into jobs based on my work experience and BMus
>go right back to my old job
>tfw
>tfw
>tfw
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I remember problems like that from high school, but I eventually found a core group of other music nerds.

I don't know what your town is like, but since I moved out of the suburbs I haven't had any trouble finding people to collaborate with. People looking to collab are everywhere.
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>mfw my band's singer wants us all to wear matching outfits
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>>51208959
tell him to listen to frusciante's solo stuff
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>>51210062
fire and murder him
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>tfw trying to tremolo pick all 6 strings
>tfw its just not working out.
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>>51210062
Devo that shit up
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>>51207469
Wow, it's like you get the exact reward you earned! Quit whining about leeching off of the success of others.
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>tfw my album was supposed to come out yesterday but I've been too busy helping sick grandfather to finish it
>tfw when disappointing my one or two fans
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>>51214014
More like they leech their success off the roadies - every artist is absolutely useless without their equipment. Sure, they can play acoustic without me....but that's not gonna carry very far without sound and stage setup.

Speaking of stage, all the fancy lights and video screens and fog machines .... all of that is done to make the artist look good.

Guess who does that?

That's right, the roadie does that.

Artists can't even play at local bars without sound equipment.....and guess who sets that up for them?

The roadie.

No musician could ever leave his bedroom without a roadie.
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>>51214623
Well pick a different job faggot, and if you're not getting paid stop whining and quit
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>>51214679
Did you have a roadie leave you high and dry on the set or are you always this cheerful towards everyone?
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>>51214623
I know roadies are stupid, but you're a special kind of stupid. Anybody can lift gear, including the musicians, as that's what my band does. You're not special, and why you feel like you deserve something only shows that you have an entitlement complex.

Guess who is better qualified to operate music equipment? The musician!

Guess who knows where the amps are actually supposed to go? The musician!

Guess who is the important person? The musician!

Guess what is the only reason you're even there? The musician!

By some weird grace of the musician you work for, they still allow you to get into their shows for free, despite having the most whiny, entitled, and self absorbed roadie on the planet.
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>>51214623
What band on the entire planet made it because of their roadies? I'm fairly sure any bad that has roadies had to have success long before they had any roadies.
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>>51214809
What planet are you from, and why do they hold roadies in such high regard compared to earth? You are aware that your job is there to simply streamline what the musician already did before you, right? Youre basically a laborer.
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>>51207110
>p4k drone
>hardcore fantano fan
you can't be both
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>>51209883
stop whining about living off of mommy and daddy to go to school twice. also this isn't a college thread.
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>>51214922
You can be a fan of something and not agree with everything

>I'm the same way
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>>51214623
This can't be serious
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>tfw i always make the other people at the place where i practice flee

90% of the time its within like 10 minutes of me starting to warm up and stuff
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>>51215043
Roadies are dumb man, why else would they be roadies?
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>>51210062
Post your stuff I'm intrigued
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>>51214623
>>51214843
You're both wrong.

Most artists don't know the first thing about music equipment outside of their instruments - that's for the mixer to handle. The mixer tells the roadie where to put and point shit, and is in charge of making sure the artist doesn't sound as godawful as they actually are.

The mixer is what makes or breaks a performance, and is even less recognized than the roadie.

Fuck both of you.
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>>51210062
He's right you know, and you should at least match
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>>51208300
i can be like that sometimes. you ever tried working with someone else? obviously someone bretty good, just to absorb a bit of your energy
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>>51215145
*or
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>>51215110
>intrigued enough to listen to someone simply because they said they want to wear the same clothes
I smell samefaggotry and stealth marketing
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>>51207469
>wow anon you plugged that jack in very neatly can I suck your dick?
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>>51215119
Fuck you, idiot. We're called live sound engineers, the mixer is that board we run everything though. And most engineers are *gasp* musicians too! Don't lump all musicians into the singer-songwriter tier of music knowledge, I've met plenty who don't know about mixing a whole band, but still know where to place a cab and mic.

You're right about roadies, they don't know shit unless it's told to them.
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>>51215210
Yeah dude, let him viral his band to the 20 people browsing this thread, of which 3 of them will bother clicking on it, genius plan
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>>51215119
>in charge of making sure the artist doesn't sound as godawful as they actually are
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>>51215225

Underrated post
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>>51215257
what this guy said, i know i wont click on it
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>Try to make something interesting, emo-revival drummer won't not speed it up
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>>51215284
It's true - most artists (especially in the hip hop or pop world) sound TERRIBLE without the mixer

>>51215225
>using the technical term
>not knowing music slang
How long you been in this business, son?
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>>51215257
>3 people click on it
>2 like it
>they show it to their friends
>two years later he's on vevo
It's how it starts m8
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>>51215464
So it's not excusable to want to be called what I am instead of being called a piece of equipment that I use? Neat.
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>>51215563
No, you can call yourself that if you want to, I was just pointing out that you didn't know the slang terms a lot of us use as a quick way to say what we do/are
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If dubs, every artist in this thread has to do all their own work without roadies or sound engineers
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>>51215735
ayy lmao check these
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>>51215670
Who said I didn't know that people use that term? I just don't like it, as it already describes a tool we use.
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>>51215814
Careful, your autism is flarin up
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>>51214809
I got nothing against roadies, just this niggas undeserved elitist attitude
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>>51215735
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>play in a dangerously post punk revivalist band
>frontman demands we all wear all black or he has a diva fit

as if we didn't sound cliched enough
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>>51216927

you should all just wear regular clothes and make your music twice as noisy, then you will be onto something
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>>51216988
it's not that easy, the singer basically gets whatever he wants cause he writes all the lyrics
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>>51210062
>tfw you have to work real hard to buy some matching clothes for your live shows
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>tfw done a bunch of demos
>endlessly mixing them
>so afraid to send to labels
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>tfw your guitarist loves Imagine Dragons and says that they're better than Sigur Ros
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>>51217161
I think you know what you have to do anon
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>>51207110
>Want to start the ultimate fusion of Psychedelic Drone and heavy Noise Rock that will blow everyone in my hardcore and three chord punk centric local scene's minds but have to move back to town first and spend the first couple of months there getting a job and shit so it will be at least three months before our first show
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>>51217139
labels dont care about production quality, thats part of why they are there. they know you dont have access to professional mixing stuff.

send them your demos unmixed or at least not mixed too much and they'll judge based off of talent/catchiness or whatever
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I need some advice
so I'm pretty shit at guitar and piano and have no money to take lessons
how should I go about learning? I only know four chords on guitar and I suck at strumming

my end goal is to join some band or write shitty songs
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>>51217161
>tfw your drummer loves Sigur Ros and says they're better than Imagine Dragons
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>tfw booking gent contacted me to play a opulent local venues around my area
>made all of my music on a laptop and too poor to buy equipment to do the show
Kill me
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>>51217331
Who are you
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>tfw no one wants to play music like Fugazi
>tfw you're stuck in a shitty "funk-reggae" band with a bunch of white stoner bros
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>>51217445
Oh come on Kevin. Only one drummer in the whole world enjoys Sigur Ros more than Imagine Dragons!
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>mfw i'm the bassist in DIIV
>mfw I never get to control the music in the car because I can't into driving because from NYC
>mfw even Sky gets to change the music when she wants to and she can't drive either
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>>51217608
she's your bands yoko,
there's only one thing to do...kill her.
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>>51217608
being in a popular indie band do you make enough money to buy rent and drugs and shit?
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>>51217060
>lyrics

Big fucking whoop. Your singer can go fuck himself unless he is also writing all of the music.
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>>51217490
Sounds like fun. Join up with the stoner bros
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>>51217655

Nah, it's cool. I'll just smoke all the weed in the car and keep my mouth shut while we listen to Arthur Russell's entire fucking discography for the 19th time.

Could be worse.

>>51217660

Absolutely.
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>>51217521
Shit.
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>>51217418
Get on stage, open windows media player, try to beat your minesweeper expert record.
Depending on the crowd, you could try to borrow a projector.
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>>51217726
>Absolutely.

your libbing the dream dev
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>>51217909

So they say. I'm not complaining. Just crying a little that I'll never be able to blast Ten Ragas To A Disco Beat in the car without complaints
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>>51217521
>>51217792
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>>51217608
>>51217726
sucks man I work with a guy who puts this shit on all the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzvGKas5RsU
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>>51217976
You sound chill as fuck. we should smoke after a show or something
Devin confirmed best new trip
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>tfw the only person you currently want to make some music with lives halfway across the country in some stupid redneck city

:-">
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>>51218211
iktf
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>>51218232
fucking kill me
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>>51215061
What kind of music do you do
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>>51218211
KILL ME RIGHT THIS SECOND
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>tfw wanna start a band
>want to make a folk punk/lo-fi sound
>all of the former bandmates are either into BVB/ADTR or into super prog/classical stuff.
>can not find middle ground with any of them.
>last attempt to make a band failed when the #1 dream theater fan drummer got into a fist fight with the pop-punk guitarist.
>never will I travel the states, play in people's garages and at squats and enjoy the hard life of an anarchist punk
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>>51215213
>wow anon you used your vocal chords very neatly can I suck your dick?
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>try to write a happy song
>it becomes a depressing drone heavymind bullshit
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>>51219863
>set off writing a song about a glorious voyage to the stars
>ends up being about two kids dying in a car accident
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>tfw try to write music
>realize it sounds like something else
>convinced im a talentless hack
>don't want to write music anymore
It is truly that feel
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>>51220270
Who fucking cares write it anyway. Turn on the radio sometime, all the shit on there sounds like other shit but they don't care. It makes them money.
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>>51220270
there is an expression
"good artists borrow, great artists steal"
no one will ever have the same combination of influences you have. thus you are free to take bits and pieces from, them and mold them together
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>>51218211
uh this
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>>51217060
you should just punch him in his goddamn face and then just yell shit about beating up cops as loud as you can over the songs you allready have
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>tfw i've been producing for 5 years, i was invited to a producer circle with huge producers (dubstep/dnb/neuro) andd i have never finished a song and instead have 1000s of WIP's
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>tfw full of ambition
>too much ambition to handle
>working on a massive black metal solo-project and learning all these new instruments / vocal styles / how to produce the damn thing
>also trying to start off a power pop band with whatever musicians I can find but its really mostly the "best of a bad situation"
>tfw also have this unquenchable obsession with JonTron and want to make a similar kind of show but need to really step up my editing game
>Australian summer is in one month and exams will be over and Ill have no excuse not to pursue this
>Have the privilege of still being at home with folks at 20 and my limited work hours in my casual job ALL go towards whatever the fuck I want
>the conditions are perfect for me to achieve these goals but im such a fucking scatterbrain I dont know how to manage myself and organise my time
>tfw I kinda wish I wasnt so ambitious so I could be satisfied with a simpler life.

Man, how do I be more organised. How do I strtucture my life? the clock is ticking and I feel like Im fuckin wastin it and killing my own dreams
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>Can't sing
>Don't know where to start
>I feel like I'll never learn
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>only thing you're good at is music
>but you're not good enough
>all you can write are boring pop songs that nobody will ever find interesting
>no drive or motivation
>never played a gig
>you have friends who play music and you jam all the time but you're always just playing the same songs of your own over and over again

>you will never be as cool as your idols
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>>51223035
>boring pop songs nobody will ever find interesting
Vevo here you come!
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>enjoy writing lyrics and rarely have a writers block
>bad at making guitar to go with it
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>>51223076
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>>51208087
Yeah, same here. Dunno why.
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>>51215464
What part of the world you are from?

I've never heard anyone that knows what they're talking about refer to a sound guy as a mixer
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>>51222514
you'll never learn if you don't start, stupid.
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>got lots of new listens on bandcamp
>oh boy oh boy where are they coming from
>realize it was myself, playing without being logged in
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>>51223963
The worst feel.
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>>51223923
Where do I start? Should I get a tutor or just practice with youtube videos.
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>>51224801
What I did was just sing and listen to my singing, and change things until I didn't sound like total crap. I play instruments and have at least a somewhat decent ear so I dunno if that will work for everyone.

Definitely listen to what you sing with a critical ear, notice what you don't like, try to fix it. What you hear as you talk/sing isn't an accurate representation of what you sound like. A mic with a monitor is ideal, but before I had that I would just sing into my phone and record it, then play it back
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>>51219254
iktfb except friends exclusively into hip/hop
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>>51207659
oh god, sounds a lot like my city. minus the Big Black influenced band
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>tfw you will never fart in the couch while your grimes qt gf is on the toilet and let her sit in it to make her feel warm
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>>51223963
whats your bandcamp?
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>>51226657
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>be me 19
>play music all my life
>suck at songwriting
>can jam out some really cool sounding stuff sometimes
>but only when I'm alone
>tfw someone walks into the room while I'm playing and I start fucking up hardcore
>tfw I can't play at all in front of anyone
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>>51215464
wow ur so cool teach me your cool music slang
cool


cool
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Me and my friend who plays drums put a group together with a homeless guy but he just smokes crack and wont rap
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