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rolling production thread. Q&A, share your work.

constructive criticism only.
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has anyone here actually bought ableton live
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>>47819925
lol
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Does anybody have any links to good mixing/mastering guides?
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>>47819925
yes, 9 Suite. got it on a discount. worth every penny.
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>>47819925
Heh heh
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>soundcards
>preamps

what do

haven't really fully wrapped my head around what exactly they do or why you need them, i mean high-quality soundcard is good obv but i dnt understand the mechanics of it.
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>>47819863
Responding here

I have an Analog Keys which is the main basis of my production, before that I had an Octatrack which I sold to get a more complete solution.

I also have an iPad with Samplr and sometimes Rebirth in my tracks.

My music sounds at least as complete as anything I listen to even with a "minimal" set up like this
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>>47819951
http://www.pensadosplace.tv/

even if you dont like the music he works with (hint: every fucking type), listen to what this fucking guy has to say. he is a mix god. if you learn from him, you learn from the best.
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Thoughts on low-end? I tend to brickwall the frequencies out below 35hz but I was looking at the spectrograms for various tunes that I like and it seems there's a lot less prominent sub-bass than I perviously thought. Maybe I should roll off frequencies from 50hz?
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>>47819894
Reposing my question here for wp666

Been looking to start recording my stuff. It's all currently in the form of live sets on my iPad and Analog Four. It sounds pretty legit but you know how it is, once recorded I'll be listening to it intently looking for flaws in the mixing.

I know that this is often taboo on the interwebs of production but I have a few songs recorded from my hardware straight to stereo that could use some EQ. What methods could I use to rescue it. I realize multitracking is better but my interface is only 4in/4 out
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>>47819985
Nice thanks man
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>>47819951
Those pdfs on the Ozone website are pretty good
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>>47819978
most soundcards have preamps in them. soundcards are an interface between your computer and your signal.

read about preamps here. it is IMO the best intro to the topic: http://www.thomann.de/gb/onlineexpert_171_1.html?sid=8a36140ded0d3d27d2eb6730b03d2013
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>>47819987
Depends on the system you are playing but yeah a filter on the lowest end doesnt hurt
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>>47819997
Is that taboo? Why?
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>>47820056
Because common wisdom is that multitracking is the only way to mix anything.
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>>47819997
i record 99% of my material stereo due to the fact that i really work primarily with hardware.

the best thing you can do is:

- noise reduction (if needed)
- subtractive EQ across the entire mix
- fix peaks/valleys (aka volume differences) inside Live w/ the clip gain

http://modernmixing.com/blog/2013/02/15/dont-boost-and-sweep-subtractive-eq/
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Thoughts on making music in mono? Been fucked by phase a few times on some PA systems and been thinking about going mono from the get go
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>>47820091
>- fix peaks/valleys (aka volume differences) inside Live w/ the clip gain

Good point, the volume differences between songs can be jarring
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>>47820107
That first Balam Acab release is mono.

Dunno why you'd want to do mono tbh - just sort out your phase and go mid-side.
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>>47819987
>>47820044

i roll off anything under 30-50Hz, depending on the source. the reason is because, on a large system, your 10-50Hz is going to sound like a giant bass fart - not good IMO

the sub is really between 60-80Hz (the 808 is named 808 because the kick frequency is 80Hz). spend time in that zone but remember that no two sources/mixes are the same and avoid using presets
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>>47820135
Well I'm working with hardware so it can be more difficult to just sort it out, if I was playing outside with a laptop yeah
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>>47820107
google Brainworx plugins and Mid/Side processing IMO
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Who's gonna be the first to post their music?
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>>47820194
i have a couple of times. all my personal productions and mixes

https://soundcloud.com/worker-parasite
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>>47820194
Would if I could but I'm at work
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>>47820194
https://soundcloud.com/skrillex
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>>47820233
taking a listen currently
>>47820242
https://soundcloud.com/aviclilexxluger
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if anyone here has hardware synths, what do you have and how do you like it? I'm buying one soon and can't choose
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>>47820273
Well I posted above, I am using an Analog Keys which is the keyboard version of the Analog Four. Honestly, this synth sounds like a fucking recording in the most pleasant way possible. I play it through any system and it sounds big, no need for EQ, and the system of sequencing is extremely well thought out.

If Fatboy Slim were alive today he would make "Everybody needs an Analog Four"

Sorry if that came out extremely fanboy/autism

I just really like it
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>>47820273
i own 2 synths, one modular one not. both analog.

IMO buy up a Micro/MiniBrute. youll learn synthesis and get a great sounding analog synth to start your collection

i choose mine now based on what i think my studio's lacking. currently investing in modular.
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>>47820330
Also own a Microbrute and its very bread and butter. Good learning synth though
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>>47820320
the A4 - anything by Elektron, Dave Smith Instruments - is worth the money for a reason.

im borrowing a Machinedrum from a friend and im in love.
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>>47820194
I normally wouldn't bother but I've been focusing on mastering a bit more recently and I'd love a qualified opinion on this mixdown:
https://soundcloud.com/cvlf/butterscotch
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>>47820320
>were alive
Wow I am fucking retarded I just reread that and facepalmed at myself. You guys know what I meant...
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https://soundcloud.com/odi_me

i make most of this stuff with a casio sa-1, an acoustic bass, and ableton. pretty much all my drum samples are me touching 8th inch cables. i live for ableton stock effects due to poor computer quality
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>>47820385
yooooo
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Pros and cons of modular?

Only modular synth I've played with is a ps3300
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>>47820233
this is flame dude I am impressed
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i really want an MFB tanzbar does anybody have any experience with those
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>>47820330
I've got a good handle on synthesis, but I want to graduate from vst's really badly
>>47820355
>>47820320
The A4 seems honestly amazing, but a little expensive. I'm sure it's worth the money, but what about the Tetra? It's cheaper, and seems more than capable, but a lot of the youtube demos are bad
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>>47820370
listening on Event TR8s

first issue is your low mids. way resonant. scoop some of that out. guitar tone is affected by this, too.

otherwise, quality mix. honestly, nothing that sounds bad IMO

>>47820404
only con is the cost
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So guys- Analog Keys, Prophet 08 or 12?
Keeping money in mind that is.
At the moment I'm really liking the sound of the 08 and I don't really think it's worth the extra cash for the others, but I could be swayed. I've never played any of them myself.
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>>47820398
you talk to me on the internet a lot more than you probably realize ahahah
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always looking for feedback and people to network with/collab with.

https://soundcloud.com/feizha/dancing-on-the-earth
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>>47820419
Never used DSI stuff but my friend has a Tempest and has told me time and time again that he will never buy DSI again so...
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>>47820436
sinister
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>>47820431
Thanks mate. I was aware of the low-mid problem (which is comforting) and I've actually already done a whole bunch of shit to try fix it, you would cringe so hard at the original.
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>>47820432
Well AK is amazing if you want monosynths and drums coming from one synth. You can also use it as a poly, and the sounds and architecture seem much more usable.
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>>47820412
thank you

>>47820419
Tetra is a solid choice, IMO

>>47820432
buy the Prophet 12 - only poly synth youll ever want/need
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>>47819894
https://soundcloud.com/eric-grimaldo

This is some stuff I have recorded, mixed, and kind of mastered at my school. There are a few songs that are very minimal when it comes to mixing. I want to get around to remixing the reggae song thats on there.
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>>47819951
http://www.soundonsound.com/search?Keyword=mastering
start looking here. loads of in depth articles.
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Thread feels dying.

Any advice on getting gigs as a live PA? My biggest fear is being asked to play certain songs and just being like "I can't"
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Hey there could someone rece me a basic hardware setup for producing?
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>>47820641
get a di box in case some one asks for a certain song, look for it on youtube or some online streaming site and play it from your phone just hook it up to the DI box
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>>47820650
Drum Machine of your choice - TR-8 looks great and is cheap
Synth of your choice - preferably with a sequencer- Elektron makes good ones and Monomachine is not as dated as some people insinuate
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>>47820641
what do you mean by you can't play certain songs?
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>>47820650
Do you want to produce inside a DAW or outside and just record it with a DAW? The former is cheaper and the only hardware you need for it are controllers, while the latter is more expensive because you need to buy physical synths as well as an interface to record them.
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>>47820675
.... damn good idea
>>47820685
like a DJ would be able to play beatport top 40 or whatever if asked
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>>47820431
wp666 do you manage to make enough money from music related ventures to live? did you study at university or anything like that?
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>>47820650
pricerange?
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>>47820641
im just upfront with promoters and honest - i tell them my sets are largely improv except for my 303 patterns. nobody cares as long as its good

>>47820650
all you really need is a drum machine, synth, and a tape deck of some sort. otherwise, a laptop, interface, and some software.
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>>47820705
i teach at 2 different places (audio), so no. its really a passion thing for me. hoping to change that before i die.
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WP666 any tips on keeping your bassline from clashing with your kick. Listening to some of your tracks there seems to be almost sidechaining going on or am I just stupid? Interesting in how you achieve this with hardware
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>>47820747
i EQ the bassline/bass synth and cut out some of the low end - i know my 505 and 606 fairly well
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>>47820767
What EQ are you using live? Just a regular 3 band EQ on a mixer?
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>>47820747
There's a good interview thing with Objekt where he goes in depth about kick - bass relationships and sidechaining and stuff. Worth a read
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>>47820747
sidechaining can be done w/ a hardware setup FYI. i use sidechaining in Live all the time if im doing a track w/ mostly VSTs

>>47820784
yep. Mackie 1202VLZ
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>>47820747
eq !
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acapellas? making a garage tune and i need some high-quality female vocals. i mean, i guess i could just sample brandy AGAIN but is there anything more obscure out there and how would i go about finding obscure acapellas?
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>>47820788
looking up
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>>47819894
Bleep is a good thread for you.
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>>47820823
Make a touhou thread please! It's been ages!
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>>47820820
Make them yourself. Sing into a microphone and pitch it up. Don't be pussy.
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>>47820820
IMO, search "Bootleg Acapellas" on Discogs
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>>47820823
you aren't welcome here.
on earth, I mean.
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>>47820804
This thread is weird, it's lacking the usual uninformed comments about how working ITB your whole life is the only way to be a good producer and how hardware is inferior to a VSTi in each and every case ever.
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>>47820562
Im this guy here

I am currently saving up to purchase one of these boards to do some recording/mixing/live stuff with. It has 16 microphone preamps, firewire interface, sweet eq, and midi controllers.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov08/articles/allenandheathzedr16.htm
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>>47820920
there are analog fetishists who feel the same way but in the opposite direction. its about the blend of both and taking advantage of what each has to offer
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>>47820946
I have that desk, let me know if you have any questions.
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>>47820946
>>47820984
recorded some collab material through one of these last week except it was the 12ch w/ FX version

great mixer. great FX. nice EQ.
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>>47820920
dont even talk about those people. Jesus christ autism is a scary mental illness.

On the real, whatever you are using, as long as you can communicate the emotions that you need to communicate through your music, you can be good. A DAW is not inherently inferior if you can output your vision and vice versa
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>>47820920
>hardware is inferior to a VSTi in each and every case ever.
but it is.
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>>47821025
here we go.
>autism
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>>47820968
Ofc, just saying this thread is weird for lacking those uninformed comments
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>>47821044
regardless of whether or not he is right, his opinion does not mean he is autistic. please stop this. so far this thread has been good.
and you-
>>47821025
change your attitude
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I'm about to buy a blofeld. Is this a big mistake? From what I can tell it can make all sorts of awesome digital sounding synths, as well as analogue re-creation synths. I don't really see what people are saying about it sounding weedy, but I still feel a little uneasy. How can such a nice synth be so inexpensive?
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>>47821044
>replying to bait
>calling others autistic
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>>47820984
I know my way around an analog board, however the thing I am most concerned with is quality of the recordings. The stuff I have on my soundcloud are all recorded on either SSL 9000, Neve VR, or with really high end gear. My main concern would be if the quality would be anything like the songs I have recorded in the past.
Do you have any songs or mixes that you have done with the board so I can do some kind of comparison?
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>>47821076
i wont lie - you will struggle to use it at first, thats why people typically feel uneven about those synths. Virus line is like that, too. just not as easy/straight forward as an analog synth, but will also be capable of some truly complex waveforms/sounds. get it.
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>>47821100
do you by chance go to Expression College?
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>>47821054
Usually the same people who refer to themselves as producers, have never finished a track in their lives, go on /r/edmproduction religiously to hear more about how to tune your kick and how to EQ8 your Supersaw


>>47821076
I had a blofeld, great synth to program very visual, but very lacking for leads, basses, really any bread and butter sound.

Truly fantastic for pads, soundscapes, etc. Waldorf shines in that department and the Blofeld was an ambient MONSTER
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>>47821130
I did, it was really fun while I was there. I just graduated in December and looking to do my own thing.
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>>47821103
>>47821132
thanks anons, that was just what I wanted to hear!
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>>47821100
I don't have anything on me, but I can assure you this mixer won't be the bottleneck of your recordings. No noise, preamps are amazing. Great bang for your buck but obviously by no means a budget mixer.
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>>47821148
cool - thought so. i graduated from there several years go
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>>47821148
you seem very nonchalant about someone guessing what college you went to.
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>>47821076
It isn't made by korg, Moog, or novation, so it gets fanboy hate, and waldorf isn't well known outside of synth enthusiasts.

It's great if you don't expect huge analog sounds. It's okay if you do. It's meh if you expect a polyphonic Minimoog.
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also, not trying to be too self-serving, but i have videos of my live sets in case anyone is interested in seeing what i do live.

http://youtu.be/SMJA-KfysP0
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>>47821154
I tend to go balls deep in research before buying gear (or anything expensive). This is the board that really suits what Im trying to do at the moment. I decided with this one over the mackie onyx 1640i after comparing the two and asking many people about their opinions on the boards.
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>>47821044
>>47821072
you guys take this website too seriously, relaaaaaax.
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I've been using FL Studio for a bit and now would like to buy a Midi Keyboard. Browsing through the internet I've found a bunch. I'll list them below.
Can you guys give me suggestions on any of these and tell me your thoughts (such as which are good for beginners, if it's compatible with FL Studio of not, etc)?

>Novation Launchkey 25
>Akai LPK 25
>Korg Microkey 25
>Novation Nocturn 49
>Launch Key Mini
>Alesis QX25
>M-Audio Oxygen 49
>Akai MPK Mini
>Novation Launchkey 61
>M-Audio Air Mini 32
>M-Audio Keystudio 49
>MPK49
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>>47821148
>>47821187
i work in higher ed...only a handful of schools like this and only one has that combo of recording desks
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>>47821215
you look like me but with a beard and bigger glasses and this is unsettling
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>>47821187
thats because it says on all my recordings that they were recorded at the college and not many schools have the same exact boards that we use
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>>47821236
Yeah, that's also a really good board. Either would serve you well but I think you've made the right choice with the A&H
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>>47821245
That's a lot of keyboards to choose.

Do you want drum pads?? If not I suggest Alesis Q49 as a beginner keyboard. You don't need a bunch of fancy knobs and shit
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>>47821245
Don't bother with 25 keys. You'll either want more, or none.
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>>47821245
just get the cheapest one

a midi keyboards a midi keyboard, as long as it has velocity ur good to go
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>>47821250
i only grow the worst neckbeards so i shave all the time (for the most part)
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>>47821245
it's a controller. what makes it good is how many buttons it has. you can tell that from pictures on the internet.
>>47821279
seconding this. still glad i have my trusty mpk25 tho because possible live shit in the future.
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Completely new to recording music

Going to record electric guitar music any tips on how to avoid basic errors?
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>>47821334
dont piss on the microphone
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>>47821311
I dig your setup and your sweater
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>>47821334
This thread is for electronic production but for guitar just have a good interface and minimize noise as best you can. EQ mids well
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>>47821334
buy an interface and a Shure SM57 to start. dont forget a decent XLR cable and make sure youre not clipping when youre recording.
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>>47821328
I usually judge keyboards for how good the key parts are. Feel of the keybed, size/shape of keys, number of keys, velocity response, aftertouch.

Little odd considering the norm for judging keyboards is buttons, faders, knobs, LEDs, how many pads, and does it make me look cool
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>>47821365
>I dig your setup and your sweater

Hanes classic from Target. $5
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>>47821334
if you record direct (straight from your guitar into an interface) then make sure you have top notch pre-amps. learn about phasing.
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>>47821245
I'd go for Nektar Panorama 4, actually I will in a few weeks. I have an M-Audio Axiom Pro 49 but realised that I can't use that well since the integration is basic. It's an awesome piece of gear, but I hate mapping and looking back to the computer all the time. The Nektar guys look like they solved this problem. No support for pro tools or ableton though.
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>>47821414
my nigga, I have one of those in grey, great sweater
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>>47821446
i now own 5 of them, all in grey/black
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>>47821215
SO THIS IS WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE
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>>47821386
all of those things other than the feel of the keybed can be judged from pictures and product detail pages.
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>>47821215
what track did you bring down at 1:13?
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>>47821334
I'd go for a cheap condenser (SE Magneto) instead of a 57... Also, if you don't have a DI out on you're amp buy a DI box so you can record the clean & the miced signal at the same time (I'd go for a simple model from Radial engineering, those boxes last for 1000s of years, even on stage). If you're a beginner and don't want to record a whole band or something you should just buy a scarlett interface (focusrite) they're cheap and totally fine.
This setup should get you very good results, and with a bit of reading on operating DAWs you'll be fine!
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>>47821558
the modular
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>>47821277
The Alesis Q49? Why not the Alesis QX25?
And I don't know if I'd want drum pads. I guess they would be good to have.

>>47821283
What do you mean by "velocity"?

>>47821279
>>47821328
Thank you for the feedback but can you clarify on why exactly? I can't spend tooooo much money on the controller either.

>>47821441
So does the Nektar Panorama 4 support FL Studio?
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>>47821600
>>47821383
>>47821334
stick with the SM 57, trust me. You will get the most use out of that mic. It is an industry standard for a reason. Most if not all recording studios have a bunch of these on hand
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>>47821651
Because 25 keys is too little
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since it hasnt been posted before, Attack Magazine is an amazing resource for producing /bleep/ types of music

i read it daily

http://www.attackmagazine.com/features/best-reverbs-electronic-dance-music/
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>>47821682
But is more then 25 good portability-wise?
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>>47821735
Same here, Attack is amazing.
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>>47821651
I've just checked:
"For Bitwig Studio, Cubase, Nuendo, Logic Pro and Reason users, Panorama is a dream come true. " (panorama website)
So not, sorry man, you gonna have to stick with the usual stuff.
I'm sure that there is no more integration on novation or m-audio stuff.
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>>47821651
velocity is how hard you hit the key. there is a sensor on the keyboard that detects how hard or soft you hit the key and it will produce a different volume depending on how hard it is struck. It adds a bit of the human element to it, you might figure out some cool dynamic stuff by incorporating velocity to your music
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>>47821651
as in the keys are velocity sensetive
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>>47821735
>http://www.attackmagazine.com/features/best-reverbs-electronic-dance-music/
this seems awesome, thanks. I'm always looking for competent /bleep/ shit to read and I'm tired of Future Music
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>>47821742
q49 is pretty light and portable

no masturbatory knobs tho
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>>47821677
yeah and they would be stupid to only use that for e guitar. standards are overrated, especially now, when you can get quality condensers for the same money.
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I'm getting out of here, but I just want to say:

quality thread everyone, minimal bickering and some real knowledge being dropped left and right.

10/10
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>>47821908
will try and keep these going. good vibes all around. thanks to all who actually put some effort in.
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I'm working on an old PC and moved backwards to Sony ACID 6, just trying to make early sounding scrubstep with older tech.

>scrubstep trying to be old scrubstep

https://soundcloud.com/star-lux/sony-acid-6-windows-xp-test/s-5Vwzx
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Just picked up an er-1

I think I'm in love. This thing is so neato.
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>>47822005
the electribe?
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>>47822026
Yeah. It's super fast to program and even clean there are some great tasty sounds out of it.
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>>47822055
Xosar uses several electribes in her live PAs to great effect

those machines are amazing for what they are
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I have a live visualizer set up in blender and ableton live going. how can I make my apc50 control both programs simultaneously?
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Any of you guys know about alternatives to the Arturia Beatstep? (16 step sequencer & midi controller)
It doesn't need to have CV or Gate out just MIDI.
I'd like to get that piece of gear but I just wanted to do some digging, see if there is anything better on the market. I couldn't find anything in this price range.
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>>47822102
I think people use programs like Max/MSP to do that but I'm not sure.
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>>47819925
Fuck no.
>>47820273
I have a micro brute and a 606. Love 'em because I feel I work better with physical stuff. They have there limitations and quirks but they work for me.
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>>47822115
not really another option - the whole point of the beatstep is to be able to use MIDI and CV at the same time to sequence multiple pieces

>>47822102
>>47822125 is correect, look into Max/MSP or - better yet - Jitter
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>>47822180
Thanks man. I should stop looking then.
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>>47822005
>>47822026
>>47822055
The ER1 looked suspiciously cheap to me, that's why I never bought one. Can you suggest a good demo? Might reconsider...
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>>47822267
the entire 1 series (EA1, ER1, ES1) all look cheap but are actually quite nice

look up any Xosar live PA/Boiler Room to see all of them in action
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>>47822267
Well they are pretty cheap. All of the youtube demos you find are going to be completely clean as well. Er-1 sounds massive through some eq and compression.
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>>47822180
>>47822125
thank you very much. should be pretty obvious i meant apc40, but yeah Max looks very promising. I just want to have the keys that affect audio queues and effector knobs work with Bome's Midi translator in the blender game engine for visual queues, so that any time I make a difference in the music, it affects the live visual.

But I think this will work well, so thanks!
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>>47822388
no problem. you can also try making music with Max like Autechre does
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>>47822299
whow, a chick! I didn"t expect that! And she's using an OP1 too...nicccce
the electribes sound surprisingly big.
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>>47822463
shes also in a relationship w/ Legowelt. saw them both play in SF few months back. huge set although Legowelt had a laptop and controllers
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>>47822540
Legowelt is a really creepy guy. Not sure what's going on there. He plays dope music though.
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>>47822540
>shes also in a relationship w/ Legowelt
what the fuck lmao
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>>47822463
well they probably sound so big cuz the ones she has are samplers.
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>>47822540
>>47822579
Aw legoman's not creepy. Also he uses a electribe at 30 minutes in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eigT6DvHJo
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>>47822611
This video made me think he is very creepy in the first place.
Still not sure about the electribe, I don't think it would suit my stuff.
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>>47822711
then you're probably right, dont grab one. plenty of other options.

the TR-505 was the first drum machine i ever bought and i love that piece of shit
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>>47822608
true, I didn't really think that one through
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has anyone managed to get any nice acid/303 sounds out of the micro/minibrute?
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>>47822778
no, and you probably wont. the x0x/303/TB3 is special because of the VCF - the VCF in the MB is completely different

you can get some 101 type sounds, though
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>>47822778
the mini can do it pretty well. a delay pedal helps a lot.
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>>47822808
im thinking of getting a xoxbox

gotta get a juno first though
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>>47822833
IMO buy a TB-3 unless you want mods, then go for x0x
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>>47822853
man I remember seeing the TB-3 getting shit on really badly in a few places and I can't remember why
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anyone know how the fuck you get bass sounds like this?? iv been trying and failing for fucking months

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyzH8f3UfMs

at around 2:30
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>>47822882
wait no that was the tr-8
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>>47822888
those guys use so much gear, who knows. theyre supposedly well into modular, too.
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>>47822888
>>47822935
yeah it's hard to tell. I had the chance to check out their setup at soundcheck and it's really complex. I could hardly work out what they were doing when they were playing.
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would be great if you guys that are into house music could check out my shit and give me some criticism

https://soundcloud.com/huntr33

would like to hear your stuff too

also going to berlin for the next 5 nights, kerri chandler tomorrow night at watergate and tigerskin (dub taylor) at suicide on sat

any of you guys have recommendations of clubs/places to go while im there?

thanks
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>>47823103
currently working on a track, will give this a listen in a bit. i shared my SC further up

ive had friends go to Watergate and absolutely had nothing but horrible things to say about the crowd. the worst of the deep V-neck deep house bro club, apparently. Kerri Chandler is so good, though, and im sure itll be a great time. hope you dont get fucked with.

honestly...im going in Berlin and getting a guided tour from some friends this fall...

Record Loft
Hard Wax
Tresor

are my 3 must-go spots..would be interested to hear other people's opinions
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>>47823235

nice stuff, very well produced, not my sort of thing but i can appreciate it

yea cant wait to see kerri, just there for the music and to chill, will keep myself out of bother and im sure ill have a good night

ive been to tresor a few times, its sweet, nice warehouse feel to it, plenty of room to go chill out or dance, also usually good music

will check out record loft and hard wax
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>>47822935
how did you start to get your music released on labels? also how do you get gigs?
want to start making money off this music
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>>47823367
appreciate any sort of objective opinion on my work. thank you.

yeah, Watergate will be sick. amazing sound system and fantastic location - im sure my friends were all fucked up which probably led to their dislike of the club

please do yourself a favor and check out Record Loft and Hard Wax. RL might be more your speed as HW is mostly techno/dub with some odds and ends
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>>47822888
some sort of reverb?
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>>47821215
>>47820233
this is really good. i dig it
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>>47823453

how did you end up getting your music noticed? you are signed to a label yea?

yea i will do, got a couple of nights planned but need some stuff to do on the others so will definitely check them out

>>47822888
reverb and filter?
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>>47823387
i run a label (not techno/house related) and made a lot of contacts that way. when i started uploading material, people came out and asked me to submit stuff.

ive been playing in hardcore punk bands since i was 15...gigs are nothing new. same rules apply to techno. go to shows, meet people, promote your own parties and understand that it takes awhile to get the swing of playing/running shows.

im currently booking everything myself and lining up dates for some off-SXSW stuff in march. its just a hustle IMO. be honest, nice, and help people when you can.

>>47823542
appreciate it. playing live is my favorite thing to do.

>>47823562
see my response above this one. im signed to several labels and have 2-3 records coming out this year/early 2015. some labels that im really fucking excited about.
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>>47822888
are you referring to the kick or the modulated sound?
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Can /mu/ recommend me a good (non-midi) sequencer for live use? I already dig my sp 303 but that shit takes forever to record a pattern/synth lick. I want something that I can route my monophonic synth into to get more layers without my laptop when playing live. Recs? Price will be a big selling point here.
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>>47823651
>non-midi
wut. whats wrong with midi in this case? youre not gonna want a CV seq.
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>>47823651
>non-midi sequencer
u wot m8

>sp 303
that's not a sequencer m8
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>>47823651
your only options for a sequencer are MIDI or CV/Gate - either electrical impulse or MIDI data. no real in between.
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>>47823710
the sp303 has a sequencer in it
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>>47823741
>>47823684
>>47823710
I'm not too versed in hardware yet, I want something that I will plug my synth into and not vice versa because my synth is monophonic and I want to play multiple sequences simultaneously. Is CV/Gate a normal 1/8" or 1/4" plug? Why don't I want one?
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>>47823832
If it's monophonic you won't be able to play multiple sequences simultaneously.
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>>47823832
if your synth is monophonic plugging in more sequencers wont allow you to play multiple lines. its monophonic, one voice, one sound at a time. youll need a polyphonic synth to play multiple things at once.
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>>47823875
also CV sequencers are really costly for the most part. only really used for old or modular gear.
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>>47823832
>>47823868
>>47823875
>>47823905

your SP303 is a sampler first and foremost. it might have a sequencer, but its def a MIDI output.

your 303 COULD sequence an outboard synth w/ a MIDI input, but using a sequencer for your 303 doesnt make sense
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>>47824103
actually believe it or not the sp303 doesnt have midi out
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>>47824155
even weirder yet. must just be internal.
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>>47823832
CV/gate is either 1/8" or 1/4" depending on format and manufacturer. There's even (superior) banana plugs.

If you find old Moog stuff, they use a cinch-jones connector for gate, which is actually a switch trigger (voltage is high normally, and activates envelope generators when the voltage is shorted)
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anyone tried out this Liquid Ryhthm stuff? how is it?

http://www.attackmagazine.com/reviews/gear-software/wavedna-liquid-rhythm/
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>>47824902
no but that looks nifty. looks like one of those drum machines made in reaktor
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>>47824949
theres a 30 day free trial that i want to grab once im done w/ these batch of tracks...looks wild
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Is reaktor worth my money?
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>>47825019
um depends. if you really like to make stuff and you often run into wants with the set up or peramiters of a lot of vsts, then yes. if you just want a synth then not as much
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>>47825019
>>47825084
You get decent synths with Reaktor, even if you don't make you're own. Also, plenty of companies offer reaktor ensembles (synths effects) for free or for optional donation, you can build up an awesome collection just from those.
I think yes. But when it comes to NI synths I'd just buy Komplete right away, so much cheeper.
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Everyone on this thread should get this plug in. Free until July 8 and then its $250.

http://eventideplugins.elasticbeanstalk.com/ultrachannel.jsp
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>>47825436
yea theres tons of ensembles on NI's website, a lot of which are really good. i find reaktor is just useful to make things you dont own or are odd. also not having to deal with wrappers like you would with max/msp (outside of abelton)
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>>47825019

if you run Live, also look into Max for Live. similar concept albeit not as friendly to newbies. many of the things >>47825436 said about Reaktor (ie. free plugins/FX) are also true for Max

>>47825464
an amazing plugin. using it right now. nice tip.
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>>47821600
Don't buy anything SE. Capsules on a lot of those are crooked.
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>>47825612
interesting, had no idea. would make sense since they come straight from China.

sold a lot of these when i worked at Guitar Center years ago and never had any complaints...
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>>47825852
I beta tested about 8 of them when they were just coming out... As I remember 4 or 5 of the capsules were visibly crooked. You can never go wrong with a 57.
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>>47820233
>>47820242
>>47820264
>>47820370
>>47820443
>>47820562
Why did you bother turning on your DAWs for this shite. It's like you want me to think there's any value here...
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>>47825922
>You can never go wrong with a 57.
That should be Shure's motto. Either that, or "the correct way to spell shure"
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>>47826301
This isn't a soundcloud thread. Nice constructive criticism though, mind posting your own soundcloud?
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>>47826306
great guide here. covers lots of great dynamics: http://www.audio-production-tips.com/dynamic-microphones.html
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>>47826301
>gets mad that it's not cookie cutter EDM
>spells shit with an e at the end
>doesn't realize he's not in /bleep/
Go back to bongistan
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>>47826333
IMO dont engage people like this. pretty clear what theyre trying to do.
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>>47819987
I roll off at 50
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>>47819997
>it sounds pretty legit
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I just copped a juno 106. It sounds great but, a little thin without effects. What reverb do you guys use.
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>>47826498
the chorus on the juno
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>>47826498
what >>47826516 said

and, id add maybe a guitar pedal reverb. Holy Grail - something like that
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>>47826498
th ejuno chorus is meant to be inredible
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>>47826498
I find it helpful to run one side of the stereo out through a chorus, if there's an on board chorus already. Sometimes you need to run it through a pre to fix the phase though.
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>>47826516
>>47826574
I think my unit might have a shitty chorus 2
>>47826538
>>47826628
Thx bb
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>>47826780
All Rolands have a shitty chorus 2, leave it on 1.
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holy shit

how long have these threads been going on for?

great idea pls keep these going
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>>47827184
They've been going on since Dave Smith has been doing your mom.
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>>47820404
Do anything you want, but be prepared to pay for it. If you want to make robot farts and noise you can actually get away with not spending much at all. If you want tonal music, especially more than one 'voice' at a time, it'll be digital modules or a fair amount of money. Especially these days, a good monosynth will be cheaper and more versatile then a modular even half its cost (the next case, as in empty box, I'm looking at is $750 ffs). However it's a wholly unique to you synth, that's a big part of the draw for me.
>>47820457
dsi has the problem of releasing unfinished product and then running out of money so having to rush the next unfinished product out the door. I swear I'd never get something from him but the Prophet 12 has me real interested.
>>47822005
fuck yea ensoniq
>>47825464
This thing is the shit. I've repaid their goodwill and bought the Space pedal that I've been eying. They're really great dudes, easy to get in touch with too.
>>47826498
Sell it while the prices are high. I like the old midiverb 2 for noisy fx, they're cheap as hell too. If you're software, just buy valhalla shimmer. It's not dissimilar, although you could probably get a real MVII cheaper.
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>>47820404
You fucking liar
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>>47821809
>implying
sm 57 can be used for
>drums
>vocals
>e guitars
>anything with an amplifier
>piano
>hammering nails if you don't have a hammer
>chucking it at someone you don't like without damaging the mic
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>>47825464

just downloaded this, its a great plug in, highly recommend everyone gets it
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>>47827360
Smith's Mopho Keyboard was what got me in to analog synths. It was fun to play around with but I couldn't really dig the DCO sound and I wasn't too keen on working with presets. I like my synths to sound exactly how they should with the knobs in their current positions - no parameter jumps or anything. I've currently got an MS20 mini and a Vermona Mono Lancet. My plan is to start getting some Eurorack modules and the Vermona modular expander because as great as the Lancet sounds (somewhere between an old Roland mono and a Moog), it's rather limited on modulation options. I'd still recommend it over these new Arturia monos though simply for having a second oscillator. I just love all the great timbres you can get with detuned oscs.
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>>47827592
Jump in then, especially with the MSmini. Grab an English Tear and it'll take care of the trig and Hz/oct<->V/oct go between. Don't get too small of a case to start with though, that's a fool's errand.
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>>47827689
It's like you're reading my mind man! I've also got my eye on the English Tear. Is that the only volt/octave-Hz/volt converter out there at the moment?
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>>47827689
Do this and get the Vermona quad midi to CV unit, then you already have a duo phonic synth. Only two more voices to get a modular polysynth. Shits cash.
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>>47827755
You could get the old korg one, but you certainly wouldn't save any money.
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https://soundcloud.com/babysheeps/down-and-crown-em

this is very rough but i'm awful at mixing and if there is anything obviously wrong with the track that you guys could tell me about, i'd appreciate it. xoxo
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>>47827755
AFAIK it's the only easily gotten one. I don't have any Hz stuff so I haven't looked around much.
>>47827766
Yeah the vermona quad is easily the best for polyphony. Though, the amount of digital stuff coming into euro now is wacky. A Yarns and an Edges, or just the edges if you're willing to do some DIY, make for some very quick poly patching. It's a great time for synths.

Here's my portable rig. Keyboard is a junker because it was for a synth meet, I don't use one personally.
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>>47827837
>sint meat
Which one?
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anyone else use renoise or am i alone
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>>47827860
[spoiler]AHNE[/spoiler] We're trying to make it twice a year, which it'd be great. Pretty much no douchebags, piles of awesome gear I couldn't justify owning even if I could afford it, amazing jams after dark.
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Anybody have good composition resources?
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>>47825464
This is really cool.
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Should I jump to Ableton 9? I've been working with 8 for a year already and I consider myself pretty damn fluent on it.

Any experiences from doing this?
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>>47827904
>pretty much no douchebags
Does that mean none, or few? Do you know a certain baboon?
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can anyone give me advice on how to modulate drum patterns like autechre do? i hate repetitive rhythms.
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>>47828607
a lot of the nice effects presets are gone, but in general, the effects are better. not too much difference, though.
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>>47828927
If you're in ableton you can use the beat repeat audio effect, it's cool
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>>47828957
it doesn't do what i want it to do, though, and it doesn't really sound right. i want to have more control over the modulations, and i want it to actually change the pattern, not just randomly loop certain parts of it.
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>>47829034
maybe just spend a lot of time on drum patterns then. sorry idon't have a lot of experience.
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>>47829065
i heard that autechre just put loops into public presets on max/msp, but i don't know how to max.
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>>47825464
i'm having trouble downloading this. I signed up for an account and got the license manager, how do i get an access code? thanks.>>47825576
>>47827360
>>47827550
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>>47825464
i don't know what this is, but i'm downloading anyway. i hope it isn't 32-bit. here are some nice spectral plug-ins for [spoiler]mac osx[/spoiler]
http://www.michaelnorris.info/software/soundmagic-spectral.html
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>>47829117
i'm downloading it and i don't have an account. i think you're on the wrong part of the page.
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>>47829225
how'd you get an access code?
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>>47829309
i just pressed the download button and it gave me a download. it didn't ask me for anything. you probably need to scroll down more or something.
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>>47829309
oh never mind, i was downloading the license manager or whatever.
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>>47829388
I don't see a download button I'm blind
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>>47829720
you have to download the license manager and then fill out the form at the bottom. in the access code box put the code in the FAQ
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>>47829720
see >>47829413
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>>47827837
sick setup - Mutable Instruments + Make Noise must work together well

also, Monotron fuck yeah

>>47828607
i use Live 9 on my PC and 8 on my laptop. jump into 9. you wont regret it.

>>47828927
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/clip-envelopes/

that should get you started. you can also automate plugins this way.
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>>47829892
>https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/clip-envelopes/
>that should get you started. you can also automate plugins this way.
i'm already familiar with this, but i want something more generative, similar to max, but simpler and more accessible. also, i want to change the pattern itself, not audio effects.
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>>47829964
apply these techniques to drums

http://quadrophone.com/generative-music-in-ableton-live/
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>>47830016
thank you, this looks interesting.
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>>47830096
i know you said you want something simple-ish, but have you looked into PureData? similar to max and not easier IMO, but lots of gen music people use pd these days
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ok straight up newfag to producing music. anyone got any websites or guides where to start? im considering getting an apc/mpc to start with experimental music but do i need a synth?
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>>47830136
pd seems like it's just max but even more complicated. i may put the time and effort into learning max, but it seems like a lot of work just for generative drum patterns.
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>>47830143
ive never come across a "how to" guide, other than looking into producers/musicians you like and reading about their methods

"experimental" is pretty broad. what type of music specifically are you into? share some artists if youd like.
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>>47830143
Not sure why you would want an APC for experimental music,

Also, nobody ever needs a synth for makin music, they're just fun and sound incredible. Don't just buy something because you think you need it, but it because you understand the purpose of it and when you really want it.

Buy monitors and and interface out of necessity though.
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>>47830228
honestly im more into techno/house. dub techno in specific but the costs for equipment look way too high for only beginning. artists i guess i would say im into the most would include deepchord, leon vynehall and luke vibert
>>47830237
honestly i just kinda put it out there cause im only starting and i dont want to make a huge investment into something that im still unsure about
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>>47830362
i have a couple of friends who record and release and do some insanely dubby things with Live and some VSTs...

the generative drum concept would be nice w/ some more straightforward dub techno chords, though
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>>47819925
pfffftttthhhbbbbbhhhhahaaahahaahaah
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>>47831290
>not Neumann.jpg
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how do I get into making my own shit?
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>>47831221
woah sounds pretty cool, mind linking me a release? also im not really too interested in the software its more the equipment/hardware that im looking into but im still really new to this so i might be wrong in looking for equipment first
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>>47831406
I'm also interested in generative music with hardware, just because it's interesting. It's probably super expensive but still cool to learn about
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>>47831397
try reaper, audacity... free programs to see if its your thing. Read the manuals and remember:

There are no rules
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>>47833273
Wrong thread buddy
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>>47833297
ive got nowhere to go
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>>47832938
>There are no rules
this is the most important thing to remember! never shy away from trying something new because it goes against what someone told you about music! always try every idea you have because with the way music is done today the only thing you have to lose is time, and as you get better, you'll find yourself needing less and less of it to do more things.

I recently started producing some breakcore, manually placing each hit of the break in my DAW, and I've realized just how true this mantra is. it's really liberating in a way I can't explain to be working in this genre where the only real constant is the presence of the amen break.
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my kick drum game is weak. looking for "plain" clubby kicks but without too much bottom end. more of a bumpy chest-thumper if u get me.
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is it possible to change the sound patches on the Alesis SR-16 DM?
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Anyone wanna share anymore random sfxs?
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>>47819894
How's the production on this?
https://soundcloud.com/lxxxvrichie/fame
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actress is still good. but nothing beats Hazyville.
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why should i switch from FL to logic/ableton??

I've had great success with fl and is there any real reason as to why you should switch to the other??
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>>47828836
ah ha, I do. There's always a couple in the bunch, he wasn't in attendance though.
>>47829892
Yeah def, in my larger case I've a brains for sequencing the PPs. I'd like to get some analog memorys before they're all gone, he's discontinued them, but for the price... Sequencing in situ is always a hard sell, same thing with utility modules I'm always like man I could get *foo* noisemaker for this.
>>47829964
Check out Numerology sequencer. My favorite for generative jams back in the day was Opcode M. I know cycling74 has ported it to modern OSes but I think just OSX, not sure.
>>47830362
>techno/house. dub techno in specific
Literally was made with the cheapest fucking shit available, stuff that is now practically worthless. Troll craigslist for an RM1x and any sampler, alesis 3630 or valley people dyna-mite if you want to class it up, and tape delay (or pedal). Have fun. Don't record shit, jam for six because you're going to hate everything you put down anyway. Smash hits were made and genres defined on shit people throw away now, you've got more potential in a netbook than most studios had thirty years ago.
I'm an advocate of actually putting some money down on something since it'll keep you motivated. Buy an old groovebox (not the 303), buy your DAW and VSTs. It's not that expensive, honest.
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>>47836964
I only keep up on the other DAWs so that I can work with other people. I've been using cubase for twenty years and I'm not likely to change now. If FL works for you than stick with it.
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>>47836964
no

FL is superior
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what headphones should i mix on
cant use monitors
thankyou
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>>47834722
learn the components of a kick drum sound, learn the key frequencies, and learn how to treat them properly with EQ. your sounds are like your children: you may have a lot of them, but they all need equal attention from you. this should be a good jumping off point for you to start beefing up your kicks: http://www.benvesco.com/blog/mixing/2007/mix-recipes-kick-drum-eq-and-compression/

that is in no way an end all beat all, and you'll have to experiment, but it has a lot of useful information that can get you started on the journey to amazing kicks. poke around that site for other aspects of drum processing, too.
>>47835229
second'd

>>47836982
i mix on grado sr80is and people tend to say my mixes are of high quality. once your headphones attain a certain level of fidelity, it's all about learning what you're listening to. i always cross reference my mixes on a variety of systems, including my ten year old desktop speakers, my laptop speakers, my apple headphones, my car stereo, etc etc to get a good idea of what it sounds like. monitors just expedite this process.
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>>47837157
note: i have mixed on monitors as well, its just not usually available to me
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what kind of guitar should i use to make a kick drum?
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>>47837170
Any guitar. Solid body you're better off with a contact mic but it'll still sound alright. Mic the sound hole, or attach your contact mic. Strike the body of the guitar with your fingers, or a padded mallet. Trim sample, pitch down as you like, combine a generated sine sample if you want sub-bass.
Making your own samples and kits is what makes you learn how sounds work and how they fit together. This is more important than any book or article you could read, any class you could take, any software you could pirate.
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>>47837207
quality answer, thanks
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should i normalise all audio i import into a track? i do most of the time, and to my ears it helps it find it's place in a track, levels wise. any second opinions?
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>>47837247
any time you digitally change the gain of something you fuck up the wordlength

but you can just ignore that and do what you want, most people do
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>>47837265
surely that would only matter if there was audible distortion happening to the sound? was i right in thinking that it helped with headroom in a mix?
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>>47837247
I only normalize when multisampling and not having a motorized striker (solonoid+rig), during the initial mapping. Doing it to whole recorded tracks, or worse program material, isn't a good practice to get used to. Rerecord it louder or bring the levels of everything else down. Everything louder than everything else isn't good.
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>>47837315

think of it as like rounding decimals
it can make things sound thin and harsh if you make the wrong adjustment, it depends on the input sample values and the bit rate (and you're unlikely to ever be in a position to tell whether you're 'safe' or not)

basically just fucking ignore me, it's almost impossible to avoid in a DAW

but some dither might help to blur the edges a little (but only apply it right at the very end)

basically there's no need to normalise things if you're then going to be changing the gain anyway, all you're doing by normalising as well is introducing even more inaccuracies
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>>47837362
alright fair i see what you're saying. cheers. must be the old louder=better trick happening to me.
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>>47837441
yeah just turn your amp up :)

and try to avoid repeatedly changing the gain of anything in the digital domain (even just +1db now and -1db later can screw things up in weird subtle ways)
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