Muv Luv / Total Eclipse / Schwarzesmarken

>[ADV] Muv-Luv (Steam Version) v1.15 + DirectorsCut patch [English/Japanese]
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=908940
or was it posted already?

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Is Mana a Christmas cake?

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>>2122
you're a real human bean and a real hero, thank you

>>2123
yeah but she's a cake we'd all eat I think

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it grows stronger

Is Eurofront a prequel or sequel of Aspirations?

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Let's do this:

Best Series: The Trilogy
Best Girl: Meiya and Sumika
Best Hero: Takeru and Theodor

Shittiest Series: Schwarzesmarken
Shittiest Girl: Beatrix, Manami
Shittiest Hero: Takayuki

Is there any way to skip the slice of life BS and just play the mech stuff?

>>2127
Best Series: Extra/Altered Fable
Best Girl: Sumika
Best Hero: Takeru

Shittiest Series: Total Eclipse
Shittiest Girl: Irisdina
Shittiest Hero: Theodor

>>2130
Second, if you switched Iris with Manami and TE with SM.

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>>2123
manamanamanaq.jpg

>>2130
Iris is average. There are far worse girls even in her own game (Annete, Beatrix, Katia).

>>2127
Best Series: Ayu Mayu alternative
Best Girl: Bernadette
Best Hero: Gouda Jouji

Shittiest Series: Schwarzesmarken
Shittiest Girl: Chizuru
Shittiest Hero: hetare king

>>2127
Best Series: The Day After
Best Girl: Marimo
Best Hero: Makabe

Shittiest Series: Schwarzesmarken
Shittiest Girl: Beatrix Brehme
Shittiest Hero: Bakayuki

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>>2134
> Shittiest Girl: Chizuru
fuck you

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Im really confused with the inconsistencies of their breast size, we need official measurements.

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>>2137
fucking this.

There's like 5 different Meiyas that exist

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>>2138
and another completely different Meiya

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>>2139
and again

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>>2140
and again

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>>2141
keep in mind these are all "official" meiyas

>>2129
>play
Fuck off

>>2142
does a similar picture as this exist for the tsukiyomi sisters?

>>2127
Best Series: The Trilogy
Best Girl: Yuuko
Best Hero: Takeru

Shittiest Series: Schwarzesmarken
Shittiest Girl: Irisdina If only because she will forever be female Sagiri for me
Shittiest Hero: Theodor

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>>2145
>spoiler
She's the Marimo of SM. Beatrix or Schmidt are closer to being Sagiri.

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>>2138
>>2139
>>2140
>>2141
>>2142
Her size is consistent through out the CGs though, so that's what I assume is the "true" size.

>>2146
Not really. SM is essentially the rebellion arc from the trilogy, but with the assumption that the rebels are right this time. Positions wise the Stasi in general and Beatrix in particular share nothing with Sagiri. And like Sagiri, Iris can be shamed into surrendering, even if her surrender in her own route is interrupted and prevented.

>>2148
>Iris can be shamed into surrendering,
Wait, what?!

>>2149
Beatrix shames her into surrendering in the Iris-route, only for the surrender to be interrupted by a pilot from another rebel unit. All that strenght, morals and Ideals are a facade that crumble very easily in the right conditions.

>>2150
What are Iris's ideals then?

Also, I think Beatrix is kinda crazy, so she's pretty unbreakable on the ideal front.

>>2151
>What are Iris's ideals then?
That's a good question. The switch from wanting to kill Beatrix to "Muh sister-in-law dindu nuffin" in a span of a few hours in her route, leaves you with more questions than answers.

>Also, I think Beatrix is kinda crazy, so she's pretty unbreakable on the ideal front.
She does help the rebels win in the Iris-route, and basically says that they earned their win and that she wants them to succeed even if she disagrees with them, so there is that.

>>2146
I thought Beatrix was Yuuko.

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Muvluv in SRW verse with Superior twizzling female cast when?

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>>2154
Not soon enough!

So what is next for ML?

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>>2156

>>2157

If Lelouch shows up, I really hope they somehow get Fukuyama to voice him.

Kind of worried he's too busy with R3 though.

>>2157
Where the fuck is my TDA conclusion?

>>2156
Alternative Fable features a reality where Takeru(alt.) escapes Yokohama before being killed, and embarks on a quest to save Sumika, whom he still believes to be alive.
A very different dynamic from Alternative as Takeru, while being the same character more or less, does not know any of the main characters

>>2160
>Alternative Fable features a reality where Takeru(alt.) escapes Yokohama before being killed, and embarks on a quest to save Sumika, whom he still believes to be alive.
>A very different dynamic from Alternative as Takeru, while being the same character more or less, does not know any of the main characters
Not bad.

>>2161
Things are a lot more "active", without a Brain there can be no AltIV, so the UN and Yuuko take a much more aggressive approach.
The big twist is In this timeline the BETA create their own "00 unit", a hybrid of human flesh and G-element, meant to Lead the BETA onto the battlefield

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>>2159

When they finally get the plot roulette to stop on any slice other than "Kouki's surprise".

It hasn't stopped on anything else ever since Unlimited began development.

>>2129
Leave faggot

Extra is part of the experience

>>2132
Who does Mana fuck in SF?

>>2165
Yuuhi in a dream

>>2152
Iris is a good person, and it's difficult for her to resist her former best friend.

>>2167
>and it's difficult for her to resist her former best friend.
Yeah, that's why she resists her every other time, antagonizes her for five years and doesn't think twice about killing her in another route. The "they were best friend once" excuse doesn't work. Iris is impulsive, politically wishy-washy and breaks easily under the right conditions.Her former relation with Beatrix has little to do with it.

>>2168
>Yeah, that's why she resists her every other time, antagonizes her for five years and doesn't think twice about killing her in another route.
The start of SM was the first time they've seen each other in years. They've mostly avoided each other. In any case, Beatrix does the majority of antagonizing, and is the one actively planning to do Irisdina in. Besides that, Beatrix doesn't think twice about having Iris tortured in the LN/Katia's route, to the point of hospitalization even, and almost murders her in Lise's route.

>Iris is impulsive, politically wishy-washy and breaks easily under the right conditions
I don't really see this at all. If anything, Iris is one of the stronger characters and the situation she was in would have broken anyone.

>>2169
>Beatrix does the majority of antagonizing,
Not really. The one who reacts with vitriol when they interact is Iris, not Beatrix. And one can hardly call Beatrix doing her job antagonizing Iris.

>and is the one actively planning to do Irisdina in
And yet when she can choose between killing her and letting her live, she lets her live. Even if its after torture.

>Besides that, Beatrix doesn't think twice about having Iris tortured in the LN/Katia's route
That seems standard procedure for the Stasi in general, and is for the most part off screen. Little can be said about the details and motivations there.

>to the point of hospitalization even
So no different than the rest of her unit? Looks like no extra malice there to me.

>and almost murders her in Lise's route.
Combat is not murder anon.

>>2170
*forgot this one
>I don't really see this at all. If anything, Iris is one of the stronger characters and the situation she was in would have broken anyone.
What situation do you mean? Otherwise there is little I can respond to there.

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>>2165
Marimo.

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>>2127
Fuck you. Beatrix is best girl.

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>>2169
>>2170
But we all know that pic related had the best ideals, strongest convictions, and developed the most of any character.

>>2173
We're all laughing at you.

>>2174
Katiafag, please. We know you're the only person shitting up other fags, especially Bea ones.

>>2174
>But we all know that pic related had the best ideals, strongest convictions, and developed the most of any character.
Not really. But you can't say her behaviour and beliefs weren't consistent, and she at least has the excuse of being young and naive.

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>>2174
>Once you see past the story trying to pump her up and others more than her herself, she's basically a nothing. She has no charisma, is an idiot, and frankly, if you look at her darker aspects, is very very selfish. She basically squeaks by in the Theobowl only because most everyone else doesn't really see her as a threat, and she plays that to her advantage. She talks about love, talks about suffering, but really, she doesn't really know the true depths of what those mean. She's sympathetic to others, but she just doesn't have, for whatever reason, the ability to be empathetic. Basically, she can relate to someone, try to feel them, but she can't feel from their shoes

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Not>>2174
But I love Katia!!!

>>2128
WHich is fav?

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>>2121
Sup dudes. I just wanted to drop by to say I've been dealing with writer's block lately so I haven't gotten very far in that Farka fanfic you guys requested.

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>>2180
You even know who Farka is?

>>2181
Just what you guys have told me about her and what I read on the Wiki.

Why? Having second thoughts?

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>>2182
No, just wandering.

Someone explain why Alternative official translation is taking so long? Is the team doing it just incompetent or what? Dies Irae vn, which was only recently backed, has already made more progress when looking updates around it.

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what is going on with sagiri's story for his card?

First he meets Inia then leaves her when she calls for Yuuya, Cryska.
Then he checks the tsfs and see Yuuya and Yui talking about sparring with tsfs.
after that, somehow he's in a hallway and see Marimo and Komaki, then you see Kei and Chizuru???
400% he meets Natalia who smells he's hiding something and says she's introduce him to someone.
And finally he meets Master/Theo. But it's just the same cg of him and it stops before they start talking.

>>2185
>he meets Master/Theo
No he meets the master, him and Theo being one in the same is neither confirmed nor denied.

Does anyone have an archive of SF HCGs or something? The panda hasn't been updated in months.

>>2186
>Still not believing

>>2188
>blindly believing

>>2185
>the disciple of female Sagiri is responsible for Sagiri going ape
Would be poetry if true.

>>2184
>be in Muv-luv discord
>complain about how long this is taking
>employees of Degica get mad at me for complaining
>tell them I am the customer and am right
>they get angry and tell me I am wrong


But bassically they get held up line by line and spends dozens of hours if not a full day on how to translate it, they also enjoy trashing the fan translation and how theyre gonna put out a superior product.

Tldr no business sense or time frames and actually believe the reader cares about their product.

>>2191
They also weren't receptive to input on stuff like emotes and backgrounds for steam, said something to the effect of "you're going to get what you get"

So are the physical release from the KS only for the backers or am I going to be able to acquire them after they become available?

I'd like to have them on my shelf

got into Muv Luv to late to back it

>>2190
IRIS IS NOT FEMALE SAGIRI@\!

Anyone want to explain why Age cut "content" from Alternative
>Takeru voice acting only in flash backs
>multi-joint tsfs during Yokohama never reappear
>awesome 3D backgrounds only used in yokohama base attack
>same for awesome CG Tracer rounds
>lack of cut scenes compared to unlimited
>no pseudo sprite animation like you saw in TDA

I know all this can be filed under "budget" and "time" but these were very good ideas that added a lot of depth and movement to a rather stationary visual novel

>>2195
Are we not getting that in the steam release?

From what I've heard from the devs the game is just HD sprites like Unlimited, and new translation, nothing "new" has been added as far as I know

>>2195
>>lack of cut scenes compared to unlimited
There's a lot of cut scenes in Alternative, more than in Unlimited. Unlimited has 2, Alternative has 5+, depending on how you want to count Meiya vs Superior.

>>2197
weren't they going to add an option to censor the gore?

>>2198
>Tama shot
>mock battle(only appears in OP)
>Mt.Tengen
Over <20hrs

Alternative has
>a6 launch
>XG70 shot
>Ouka launch
>Take cutscenes
>shuttle ejection
Over about 40hrs

I guess it isn't that bad, however it's obscene that the Coup arc, Yokohama surprise attack, XG70 self destruct, and orbital dive don't have animated scenes.

>>2200
>Coup arc
I may be misremembering, but didn't Yuuhi's speech have a cutscene?

>>2201
It was just pans over still CGs, you only think that because it had notepad text

>>2194
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

Do you have a couple examples of the cut scenes?

>>2193
PSVita verison is exclusive for now.

>>2204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3uvuffWLDU

>>2205
I was reading that on the official forums

Not really interested in the Vita though just the PC box-set

I don't see why they wouldn't sell them after all the backers got their copies though

>>2207
One reason would be is that they don't want to be stuck with all the inventory if it doesn't sell. But I do think they will sell would physical copies.

>>2208
I think they will sell a limited amount of select merchandise after all the backers a fulfilled just to see if there is more interest or simply to get rid of any Extra

If they ever do a SM or TE I'll definitely back that KS

>>2209
>If they ever do a SM or TE I'll definitely back that KS

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=651346103

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>>2210
You learn something new everyday it's seems

Was this part of the original KS as well?

>>2211
No.

>>2212
So they are testing the waters to see if people are interested

good on them I guess

>>2210
I'm done with Kickstarters, I feel like more or less Degica has taken advantage of our generosity, I will no doubt buy their product but I'm done with empty promises

>>2210
TE remake with routes and western release KS never

>>2214
Why would you trusted it at the beginning? Like all the VNs in KS are always behind schedule.

>>2216
My first KS, I thought it would be different, never again

>>2217
I thought 1.3million USD meant something

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>>2163
>Sisters have big tits
>Kasumi has no tits

What went wrong?

>>2219
More fat went into her brain instead of her thighs and breasts.

That's why she's the pinnacle of Alt.III

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>>2219

When the Sestina batch was created, the Soviets had already decided on Kasumi as the representative tithe to the UN for whatever may come to pass in the future, so they didn't give her Service Packs 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8008135, and 7175.

No doubt Yuuko could have crashed the Soviets' gulag-powered servers and gotten those upgrades for Kasumi, herself, but she was too busy playing Eggman-sensei Daibouken to care.

>>2221
wasn't Kasumi rescued by the American Yf-23s during a failed hive assault?

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>>2219
I love Inia!

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>>2222

Wot? No, it's objectively impossible that she has anything to do with Sandberg and co's Eastern Europe roadtrip.

I may be taking a blind shot in jest with Kasumi being marked for giveaway export esper, but it's impossible that she was combat-ready in 1993, when one year ago the Soviet espers of Alternative 3 just got assfucked at the Bhopal Hive. Even assuming a generous age of 18 for Kasumi in 2001, she would be at most 10 during the events of TSFIA #77. Not exactly an ideal age for operations, seeing as the espers of Alt. 3 in the Alt./TE manga's flashback scene (I forgot which one of them, probably the first TE manga that predated TE Rising if it was) were shown to be at least in their teen years.

Assault, eh, raid, probably yes; the YF-23s were breaking through BETA in the region to rescue their target, in all likelihood an esper of Cryska's batch or earlier. It would be a probable scenario that they're picking up the pieces from a failed Alt. 3 raid on the nearby Rovaniemi Hive to again attempt esper communication efforts with the BETA, but no indication was given that any action on the scale of Swaraj's, an actual Hive assault operation in 1992 when they first committed Alt. 3 espers to reading/projection ops, was taking place at where they were going.

http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Gray_Ghost

>>2217
This is made especially hilarious considering the VN was already translated.

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>>2219
nothing went wrong.

>>2220
> More fat went into her brain instead of her thighs and breasts.
> That's why she's the pinnacle of Alt.III
that sounds like 'more nutrient', not 'more fat'.

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>>2227
healthy kasumi would be a better kasumi

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>>2228
> that 'healthy' description of yours
please take yourself & your fat fetish somewhere else.

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>>2226
you misunderstand, I was supporting something I am passionate about.
If it even meant It would mean I could share ML with 1 person, I would have donated.

But the fact of the matter is, I can't fucking share it with people if they don't release it.
And it was just as much about supporting future ML endeavors, and it was supporting the possibility I will get a Meiya wallpaper for my steam profile

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How do you get in the kickstarter business and what are the projected net income.

>>2222

No, Yuuko used her authority as the ALTERNATIVE IV lead to get Russia to send her their strongest Esper, Kasumi.

The Gray Ghosts was a separate United States secret mission with the goal of finding out how far he Russians had progressed with the Espers.

tfw 10 stamina is literally undoable

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3rd new type of beta!

>>2233
It's not farmable with a few HN units like previous event but it's not impossible. Although I'm not sure I can do it with everybody surviving so maybe I'll stick to 7sta to be sure I get 3 chests every time.
Welfare is a TSF so I'm not as interested as if it was a pilot.

>>2234
That kind of laser cant fire air units right unless they are flying lower than the beta's head.

>>2233
I cant even do it with everyone being SSR/SR units and one of them is maxed Circe which usually makes these missions cakewalk.

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>>2235
In-game at least, they only do AOE attacks around them, but who knows?
>>2236
Git gud.
But seriously, sometimes, I'll S rank with everybody alive and sometimes everybody gets killed (or I time out).
What bothers me the most are the destroyers. now that they can push you back, it can be a real pain.

>>2234
I'm guessing these aren't canon right? What other new BETAs does this game have? Left /m/ before Schwarz aired.

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Noice. Managed to get one ssr drop after doing 10sta 9 times.
Although you get one after doing 10sta 50 times and 7sta 100 times.

>>2236
I have maxed out Iyo now that is a pilot with skill that makes game be locked in easy mode. I kill everything without ever getting any damage.

>already have 2 ssr and 4 f16 drops from doing stamina 7 mission 18 times

Game is finally being nice to me. I never managed to get SSR drops from past events.

This Destroyer auto-dodge is annoying as fuck.

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>>2238
First you have hammerhead.
It moves by small jumps and attack in front of it with its tentacle-arms or whatever you call that.

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>>2238
>>2243
Then you have trebuchet.
It moves (walks?) at average speed and attacks with some kind of purple mist, either in a AOE around itself or by throwing it as a ball on you.

Finally you have bulkhead >>2234
It moves very slowly or jumps quite far.

>>2243
>>2244
Neat, these sound nightmarish to encounter in a proper storyline. Any lore attached to them, or were they just dumped in there?

>>2239
Do you know what their xm3 passive skills are?

What the fuck I'm doing wrong with that skill up quest? My all pilots are from Alternative and I still cant do it.

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What do you guys think of the new mega strain?

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>>2246
I guess it's :
during restriction, speed movement isn't reduced and speed attack +70%
so useful against that new beta whose skill slow you down.

>>2248

It's got a sorta light nutty tinge of Arms Fort-y flavor.

>>2248
I want to strike it's weak point for massive damage

>>2248
What the fuck is that? It looks like it shoots lasers.

>>2247
Is your CP also from Alternative?

>>2253
Apparently I could only use those Alt chars who were available from day one. Even using some event Meiya or SSR Chizuru made it undoable.

>>2234
>>2236
I've been able to slowly get it done, up to 9 victories now but holy shit is it tough

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>get my 5th copy of the ssr after doing 10sta 34 times.
wew, didn't even need the ones they give after doing a quest x times. i can now spend the rest of the week farming item skills.

>>2241
Clearly they have upped the drop rates.

>>2255
I don't have a Kirke but if I can get one with max skill in my friend list I s rank no problem with everybody surviving (or a Daikuuji).
Otherwise, it's a slaughter, even with my welfare ssr and my skills level 25 (Yui, Tama and Minori). It's really the most difficult they have put so far.

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>>2256
I've been trying to use this team, mostly my main event team

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Based Kirke. She the only reason I beat it under at most 50 seconds.

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>>2180

>>2248
Pretty badass looking.

>>2258
>max cost 93
What the fuck, what level are you?

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>>2252
Yes.

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>>2262
>>2248
Wait aside from the laser
Are those tentacles for twizzling?

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It's called the Bulk(Bulge?)head (バルグヘッド) Tall Laser or something. Complete 360 firing.

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>>2264

can someone explain this bingo sharon gacha to me?

>>2256
>those erect nipples
Calm down, Sumika, I know you're looking forward to Takeru, but still.

>>2267
Whenever you roll, you get 5 cards and one of the items in the bingo.
It costs 5 gems the first time, then 25 gems.
Since there are 9 boxes, at worst with 205 gems (25*8+5), you're sure to get ssr sharon and sr leon.

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I remember saving these awhile ago, but no one was able to Identify the source?

They're too good to be 'fan made doodles" and by all accounts look like Key-frames, but they look nothing like anything ML has produced so far

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>>2270

>>2266
slut

>>2270
>>2271
>those manfaces
>too good to be fan-made

>>2273
>hating strong chins

you might be gay

damn this game is getting to be a pain in the ass. difficulty is too much and it takes forever to use all my stamina.

>>2141
what book is this from?

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/kimimuv/
any dls of this yet? releases before aprils fools.

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>>2276
Oh man, JFK curry house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEhaYD0U_yg

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>>2276

>>2278
Is it 18+?

>>2278
thanks for the blueball m8

>>2265
Holy damn how tsf can compete now?

>>2281
microtransactions

>>2261
127.

>>2265
Am I the only one who really likes this design?

More Sharon:
http://imgur.com/TjH5Apc

How can the archive even cope?

>>2234
Anyone got a link to that game?

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Surprising OP pic related fits well it /mo/

Now that we /mo/ now post Muv-luv /mo/ related.

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>>19428
Close enough

>>19428
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cc3GrFWrSk

>>19390
http://www.dmm.co.jp/netgame_s/muvluvsf-r/
It's just your average mobage.

>>2284
No. I was under the impression laser classes don't shoot when BETA is in the way.

>>20039
Wasnt the Fort Laser Class in TE also hit fellow baters

>>20501

I was told that those were corpses of already-dead BETA tossed by the shockwaves.

>>20039
These laser aim directly at the ground below them and I don't know if it's just gameplay-wise, but they don't damage like the ones from laser class.
Maybe it's not exactly the same kind of laser.