Can someone explain me what the fuck is going on with Gibraltar?

>>185183
Spain is being a faggot over Gibralter.

British told them to fuck off, else they can expect another 1985.

Spain went to cry to the EU, EU told the Brits off, Brits said "fuck off" in return.

Spain is dumb enough to try it, and they'll get fucked when they do.

>>186115

This. Spain is gonna get some nasty pressure from the UK, with a lot of support likely from the US and Cannukistan as well. And the rest of europe isn't gonna go along with spain's chimping out over the whole thing. Spain is gonna end with massive rectal trauma, and no one else is gonna give a shit.

Its gonna end up like Europe's support for the Falkands

>>186232
i seriously expect if war breaks out between Spain and the UK for the EU to desperately ignore it while the UK and the US beat the shit out of Spain so hard it splinters into at least 3 different countries.

if the EU decides that suicide is for them and helps Spain, it's gonna be dismantled like the HRE was.

Some random EU draft document leaked about how Gibraltar would be offered a different deal that would be approved by spain because the alternative of one universal deal would have cucked gibraltar hard.

Some autistic former politician in the UK called for war.

This whipped all the rag tabloids into a frenzy over what is basically nothing. The UK is angry that the EU cared more about Gibraltar going forward than the UK did.

>>186287
fuck off shill, that's not what happened.

EU decided to be a sneaky shit and tried to offer gibralter a different deal, document leaked, both Gibralter and the UK were mad and spain chimped out when the UK told the EU to fuck off, GIbralter wants to remain British.

>>186283
Even if the EU didn't ignore it the only real military force the EU has is the French. The rest have broomstick guns.

>>186283

Shit, Spain does already hate itself. It spliting up would be kekworthy.

>>186336
keep in mind though, the French do have a "cross the Rhine and everything dies" Nuclear Policy, so i expect France to not lift a finger and instead nuke the shit out of southern spain if a UK-US force gets a little too close for comfort.

>>186320
You're retarded, this has nothing to do with Gibraltar being British. Spain isn't annexing Gibraltar. This is about Gibraltar being a 3 square kilometer citystate in spanish waters removed from its home territory by thousands of miles, of fucking course it needs spains approval for any trade deal that involves their air space and their territorial waters. Idiots freaking out over 'muh sovereignty' couldn't even find the place on a map.

>>186401
Spain isn't nearly powerful enough to tell the UK what to do, they have trouble paying the bills as it is. if the UK want to do something with Gibraltar the Spaniards need to either roll over and accept the buttfucking like a good boy or be splintered into at least three countries.

>>186440
oh yeah, UK is totally going to war with a NATO ally in the middle of the EU because some dipshit who isn't even in office sperged about the falklands and the sun picked it up as the next big story. Great geopolitical analysis bud.

All over Gibraltar of all places.

>>186486

The UK isn't gonna give up Gibraltar. The people of Gibraltar aren't gonna support any kind of co-sovereignty deal with Spain. Spain is gonna sperg out, everyone else is gonna roll their eyes and pat them on the shoulders and tell them to STFU.

>>186486
>implying the US gives a shit more about Spain than the UK

this is if the Spanards are stupid enough to actually follow through, the UK just simply said that if they do they can expect 1985 all over again. stop being a shill.

Serious question, what is the strategical or political relevance of Gibraltar to the UK? (sorry, my country doesn't use it's territories for any purpose)

>>185183
I think it's about the EU: trying to make things difficult for Britain. Spain cares little since before the EU the status quo was already the same.
just a tool of political pressure so that other would be exit countries think twice. it will blow over because nobody except the UK would fight for Gibraltar, not even Spain

>>186522
it's the entrance to the mediterranean

>>186522

It gives the UK a stupidly powerful position in relation to the bit of water between the open Atlantic and the Mediterranean.

And there was some point where the Brits won it from the Spaniards, and keeping a hold of it is kind of a "nananananana, fuck you"

>>186562
>>186570

thanks for the input

>>186562
don't you kinda hope the spanards chimp out over it so you can backstab the fuckers and take a shit ton of good land from them as they splinter up? seems like a good deal for the good old Portugal-UK alliance.

>>186513
Again, don't be retarded. 'Giving up Gibraltar' has nothing to do with whats going on. There is no question of Gibraltars status as an oversees territory, SPAIN DOES NOT WANT GIBRALTAR. This is just some retards in britain who forgot where Gibraltar was trying to stir up shit. There's nothing controversial about Spain having a say in what happens in their waters.

all this is accomplishing is fucking over Gibraltar, because it's going to end with Gibraltar being forced into accepting a universal UK deal that doesn't account for their circumstances.

>>186588

Effectively, its a piece of territory held by a 3rd party outside of spain or morocco, and with a few modern pieces of artillery, can very strongly control who/what can/cannot get in/out of the mediterranean.

>>186618

You are right. No matter the outcome, Gibraltar is gonna have a shit time. Unless the UK completely turns back article 50, nothing is gonna be ideal for the people there. Any outcome is gonna really dick around how they live.

>>186618
do you not pay attention to the geopolitics of Gibraltar at all? Spain has been ass sore about Gibraltar since the British took it from them.

of course they fucking want it, but that's on the backburner right now because Spain is currently busy trying to not splinter up due to various separatist factions trying to either gain Independence from Spain or just fuck the lives of slightly different Spaniards.

>>186602
sure, even if only for the happening.
I'd be interested to see what we would do, because depending on the circunstances it could force our hand. And we never were non-allies to England in our history, which would mean we would finally leave the EU

>>186675
Spain has been asspained about British encroachment on the Isthmus. There is no active challenge to Gibraltar's [the city] sovereignty that isn't fuelled by someones furious masturbation fantasy of the collapse of NATO and the EU.