There are absolutely zero episodes from season 1 that are as

>>30804763
Winter Wrap Up is infinitely better than any of this overrated drek

>>30804770
>winter wrap up
>good
No, the episode was painfully generic beyond a nice song. Oh gee, Twilight fails at things that she obviously would be bad at. Oh man, we find out she is good at the thing we already knew she was good at. Nothing interesting came out of that episode besides the song.

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>>30804770
This mediocre episode is literally the only liked because of the song. There were thousands of better ways to showcase Twilight's leadership skills.

Instead, they went with deus ex machina where at the last moment we SUDDENLY find out that everypony actually can't get the job done and couldn't for several years already, an odd fact that is so convenient for Twilight at the third act but was never mentioned before.

If any new episode pulled such a deus ex machina, you would be screaming how it's shit and the worst thing ever. But this, you're willing to forgive. Why do you have these double standards anon?

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>>30804801
all of this. people used to have fun despite the flaws.

>>30804801
Twilicorn episodes have done a better job showcasing twilights leadership skills.

>>30804801
B-BUT MUH FAUST

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>>30804770
Anon, nooo. You could of said The Cutie Mark Chronicles or Dragonshy or Suited for Succes and easily beaten op but you picked episode that's nothing without it's catchy song.

>>30805049
>Cutie mark chronicles
Sure, it establishes scootaloos base character beyond "annoying child no. 3," but it would take until season 3 for them to actually make her an interesting character. Beyond that, the stories as to how the mane 6 got their cutie marks is pretty one note and twilight's in particular is disappointing because she got her mark purely by chance. I'd argue half of the stories have that unfortunate implication to them. This pails in comparison to the engaging stories/characters of either of the S7 episodes listed but isn't out right bad like many other S1 episodes.

>Dragonshy
One of the only fluttershy episodes where it makes sense for her to not develop at all. But this episode still isn't that interesting and the adventure aspect of this is pretty weak compared to later season adventure episodes. This one can't really be compared to the episodes listed that well, but this one is clearly worse than adventure episodes in season 6 or season 7.

>Suited
You are joking right? This entire episode wouldn't exist if rarara was remotely competent at her job. It's hard to feel bad for rarara when her downfall was basically a self-inflicted wound. Compared to parental glidance, Dash isn't put in the right for failing to communicate with her parents (until her outburst).

>>30804834
Because the flaws weren't so glaring back, then, anonio.
The original series were aimed to an even younger audience and the limitations were bigger, yet the original team did more and better using less.

>>30804770
>Liking winter wrap up
>Calling other episodes overrated drek
I hope you can see the irony in this statement anon.

>>30804763
I honestly can't think of a season seven episode that is even on par with anything from season one. The perfect pear was okay I guess....it was probably season two caliber

>>30805243
Pathetic. Here, use this (You) to buy some better bait. Until then, stay out of my board.

>>30804763
Sonic Rainboom

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>>30805243
t. shit taste

>>30805168
>Because the flaws weren't so glaring back, then, anonio.
yes, they truly, truly were. if youd really like it, im sure most anyone could rewatch each s1 episode and tear it a new asshole.

>>30805269
It's a decent episode, but it isn't written nearly as intelligently as parental glidance or perfect pair; those episodes incorporated the characters in a brilliant way in order to tell interesting stories that couldn't be told nearly as well on other shows, while Sonic Rainboom could have been written as well for any other show.

Can we all agree Pinkie was better in the first two seasons?

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>>30805660
Yes, although I still like her when she's not too loud.

I miss Pinkamena too.

>>30804763
The first episode and the last episode. Because they birthed the series and ignited a lasting hope and desire for more. Fuck you.

Does FiM 1&2 count? I know it's because we had so little to work with back then but the sheer amount of fan content it spawned, and still spawns, with what sparse lore the pilot gave us is pretty crazy to think about.

>>30805660
Yea, I would generally agree with that, but I don't think that she's bad now, just not QUITE on the level she used to be. Like, if she was at 80% of her character's potential before then I would say that she's at 75% now

I have hope that the writers will tighten her character up a bit and that it'll be even better than it was initially. Let's see if they can bring her up to 90% in future episodes/seasons!

>>30804763
Discordant Harmony was a better Discord episode than Return of Hamrony

>>30807432
NOit was second best though

>>30804801
Members of a nearly-destroyed Waffen-SS division sieg heil for their newest officer and their adjutant to regain morale before the battle starts again. Colorized, 1944.

>>30805660
Remember that time when Pinkie spent an ENTIRE episode screaming "FOREEEEEEVER"

>>30805118
I still don't understand why Rainbow Dash gave everyone cutie marks. As if her ego needed any more inflating. Wasn't Twilight supposed to be the main character and her element of harmony come from all other elements combined? Why didn't she create some kind of magic burst during the exam after getting real emotional about failing, which would then help RD make a sonic rainboom, which would then give everyone else cutie marks?

>>30805118
>It's hard to feel bad for rarara when her downfall was basically a self-inflicted wound.
>it's hard to feel sorry for anyone who ever fucked up and suffered from it
Wow, you have no empathy at all, do you?

Pretty sure ep13 is going down as the single best episode yet produced in the show when the episode rankings come out next.

>>30807553
I think S1 critics are missing the point that all of them really were at the beginning of their development back then. They were also just learning about each other as friends, which is very appealing. After 7 years seeing the characters make the same mistakes they made way back then is aggravating. That's why S1 character foibles are far more excusable than shit like Applejacks day off.

>>30807737
>tfw you go to check your data to see if this lines up but you realize that episode 13 got rated so highly that you don't have the proper data required so you have to extrapolate

That being said, if the numbers actually extrapolate out that far, the awnser is most likley yes as S7 E13 would rate above any previous episodes on a 1-10 scale and you would expect that would carry over to the rankings. Though I do need to look into that...

>>30805660
Yes.

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>>30804763
literally every episode is better simply because there's no starlight or twilicorn in them

>>30805118
>This entire episode wouldn't exist if rarara was remotely competent at her job
Anon she offered to make some free stuff for her friends and her friends went full retard what the fuck are you talking about.

>>30805660
Her general appearances were much better in the earlier seasons but her episodes are stipl pretty good

>>30811075
Just show case your good dresses and then give them the shit ones, explain to your friends that while they may have certain tastes, the fashion world doesn't agree with your personal views.

>>30811026
What about the episodes that don't have either of them?

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>>30804763
Perfect Pear is a 4/10 at best and sleepless in rehash city is a 2/10. Comparing those to season 1 who doesn't have an episode below 7/10 is retarded.
Stop pretending that season 5-7 aren't pure shit. They are.

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>>30813476
>parental glidance
>sleepless in ponyville clone
Is this a new meme? Besides, this is the real chart.

>>30812989
You're still not making any sense.
The writing is still better than OP's episodes.

>>30813563
I am showing how flimsy the conflict of that episode was by pointing out the very obvious thing rarara could have done to avoid it and while Dash could have talked to her parents in Glidance, the conflict is treated differently in that episode.

In the rarara episode, the audience is supposed to sympathize with rarara despite her blatant fuck up, but with Dash, she is rightfully punished for her out burst. It makes it hard to sympathize with rarara when such an obvious solution exists.

>>30813597
Her "blatant fuckup" consist of being a good friend, so I don't know what you're getting at.

>>30813622
She could be a good friend and still be honest with them, let them have the dresses they want, but just tell them about the standards of the fashion industry and have them show case the old dresses.

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>>30804801
Bullshit. WWU provided an excellent introduction to Twilight's character early in the series, as well as giving every one of the other 5 main characters a moment to shine as well, so it was a well rounded episode with some great character development. It has some excellent humor, and some of the best gags in the show even in my opinion. It's a world building episode in which we learn a lot about how the different pony races interact with the natural order. And all of that is without even taking the song into consideration.

>>30813881
Except we had at least a dozen episodes with Twilight before Winter Wrap Up, we already had a pretty good idea what Twilight's character was at that point. The only thing Winter Wrap Up does of note besides the song is introducing pegasus' ability to control the weather and that is a concept that could have been utilized in so many other episodes instead. Hearths Warming Eve would have been a better introductory episode to the lore.

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>>30813881

Agreed. Season 1 has not aged well. It is by far the worst season of the entire series. When I revisited it I was blown away by how much worse it was than the rest of the series.

>>30815789
Even worse than Season 3? Be honest.

>>30815795
I would honestly rather watch Season 3 than Season 1 overall. I've been watching since before Season 2 ended, so the nostalgia is there.

>>30813354
well in those episodes pinkie is still flanderized and the treebrary still doesn't exist so they're still shit, albeit a lot better

>>30804770
Song aside its not that great

>>30813644
Why would they care about the standards of the fashion industry? Originally they just wanted to do a little dressup for each other, Hoity Toity came in later.
Assuming we go your route
>why do you want us to wear the old dresses?
>well, y'know the standards of industry...
>but this was something for us, I thought you liked these
>if you think we're something to be ashamed off, we might as well blow this thing off, bye Rarity
and now Rarity is even more shunned, good job.

>>30813476
>Perfect Pear is a 4/10 at best
Perfect Pear is a legit 10/10, I dare say it would have been an inferior episode if it was attempted back in season 1

>>30816157
Because rarara was showcasing the dresses to the fashion industry. Let them have their goofy dresses, but have them wear the good looking ones when they model them.

>>30816166
That is really the hallmark of good season 7 episodes. They are episodes that could not have worked in the early seasons.

>>30813476
>this is what faustdrones actually believe

>>30817725
>faustdrone
stop pushing this terrible meme, it will never catch on

>>30817853
Its not a meme if its true.

>rape

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>>30807810
>After 7 years seeing the characters make the same mistakes they made way back then is aggravating
Isn't that stretching it a bit? A character in the show may repeat the same character flaws but they know not to make the same mistake with a specific situation or antagonist.

>>30822042
The problem is its often too similar or something that has the exact same application in a different setting, like fluttershy not learning to not be shy until season 6 or applejack never learning to listen to her younger sister, or dash not learning to be so arrogant.

An example of a good use of character flaws would be the CMC not understanding how romance works. In hearts and hooves day they just thought putting two people together would make them happy regardless of the method, in hard to say anything, they knew not to do that, but had no idea how to correctly get two people dating.