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I don't have a the pasta but fuck it, ressurrecting bug thread
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https://pastebin.com/PjB4LKgd
here it is you wanker
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>>30753655
i want to inside bug
hard
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>>30753655
Oh shit, /bug/ is back! Everyone get in here!
Someone wake up the writefags!
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>>30754129
What writefags?
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>>30754140
>What writefags?
/bug/ has a bunch of writefags! The only problem is that they only update their stories once a year.
or sometimes longer...
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>none of the anon-as-a-changeling stories will ever be finished because they weren't written in a general
Every day I suffer.
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About a week ago the RGRE thread came up with a fun concept you guys might be interested in, changeling involvement starts here.

>30717890
TLDR:
>Changeling victims dont notice any discrepencies in the act because they're literally getting more irrational as their love is drained.

>Twilight feels pushed away by Shining before the wedding
>sees that Cadence is acting strange
>the loss of love from her angry brother starts to affect her
>acts irrational when trying to explain to her friends due to not feeling as loved as she was before.
>by the time she is captured she loses the love of everyone she cares for
>doesn't question why Cadence would capture her and put her in a cave with herself but somehow starved, scuffed, and dirty
>attacks on sight
>as soon as Cadence proves that she is herself and still loves Twilight she becomes rational immediately
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>>30754754
Fucked that up.

>>30717890
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>9
Why did /bug/ fucking die all of a sudden?
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>>30756743

I think there was one particular episode where we all died a little, Anon.

Pic unrelated
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>>30756841
Friendly reminder that the only logical conclusion for Chrysalis is dying or becoming a skittle
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>>30756867
nah, she'll steal the crystal heart and use it to become a Super changeling 3.

Either that or kidnap and rape a stallion to make a new army.
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>>30756743
Maybe the Discord fags gave up.
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New Thorax episode today!
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rogue bugs are still out there
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>>30759488
THEY LIVE!
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>>30757922

That isn't a bug. That is a gay moose.
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>>30760504
U wot m8?
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>>30757922
>>30760619
What a terrible character he's become. Maybe Pharynx will redeem the changelings, but I strongly doubt it.
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>>30756867
I doubt she'd die.
I wonder what they'd make her 'purified' self look like though... Maybe Hasbro will try extra hard not to fuck her design up, so that they can make bankroll selling toys of her new form.
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>>30760800
She'll either die, be imprisoned forever and never mentioned again or become another gay moose, there's no other way.
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Reminder that this is what bug dicks look like.
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I'm catching up on MLP after a two year hiatus and just got to the episode where Thorax was introduced. I like the character but I really wish they spread it out over two episodes or ended on him saving Spike a second time then running again. I mean friendship is serious business in Equestria I know but Spike trusted him waaaaay too easily. I would have like to have seen him doubt his feelings for Thorax and question whether he was being manipulated, maybe after consulting with Shining Armor who shouldn't have been three brief cameos in that episode. The song and dance number was unnecessary but could still work I guess with the scenerio above.

Still got a shit ton of episodes to get through to get fully caught up but I will say is this knowing whats coming.

This
>>30757922

Totally undermined the message of that episode, that you shouldn't judge people/ponies based on appearances or associations. In typical Hasbro fashion they changed both rendering the episodes message moot.

Also why would you want to give up a glorious body like >pic related
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>>30760815
Poor Chryssi... She must be really lonely...
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>>30760815
>Be imprisoned forever

They tried that in the comics, I think the result would be the same on the show. Petrification maybe a long term solution which wouldn't kill Chrysalis and would remove her as a threat... but as Discord has shown its not an eternal solution and I doubt the Queen really cares what era she finds herself.

>become another gay moose

I'd be extremely disappointed if Hasbro took that route, some characters aren't redeemable nor would they accept redemption

>She'll die

She won't die. Shes been around since before Sombra, Tirak, Starswirl and maybe even before Celestia or Luna (but not Discord since hes eternal), shes weathered countless catastrophes that befell Equestria and survived along with her brood. If she were to die I highly suspect it'd be for the reason above: rejecting redemption, and probably out of spite. Lets face it though Hasbro won't go that route either cause its too dark for the actual target audience (ironically though not too dark for Disney)
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>>30760619

I said you belong over here >>30650552
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>>30761023
Glimmy gonna snap her hooves and your incredibly ancient shapeshifting bug succubus gonna turn into some puke coloured abomination and she's going to love it. Either this or she's going to refuse and die while screaming NEEEVAH when Glimmy/Throrax/YouGetTheIdea redirects her energy blast back to her or something equally disappointing, like falling down the cliff or turning into a statue.
After all it's just a little girls show.
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>>30761023
>All Males
>All Siblings
>No reproductive ability

Killing Chryssi would essentially be genocide of a species.
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>>30761096
They're all so gay they would rather go extinct rather than to gaze upon a vagina, much less interact with it in any way.
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>>30761023
>Shes been around since before Sombra, Tirak, Starswirl and maybe even before Celestia or Luna (but not Discord since hes eternal), shes weathered countless catastrophes that befell Equestria and survived along with her brood.
How do you know? Someone as ambitious as her would have found Equestria ages ago if she wasn't comparatively very young.
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>>30761135
Fair enough, desu I was relying on the comic canon too much rather then the show since in the comic it shows her encountering Starswirl and being present all the way back to Discord.
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>>30761023
What do you think of would be the most likely outcome then?
I kind of feel like the "purification" route seems most likely, since I feel like Hasbro might see an opportunity to sell her new form as a toy (like they did with Twicorn), and she's too prominent to just forget about.
However, that route would just be an absolute trash cringefest if her new design were any less than perfect, and her redemption ark weren't splendidly written to a cathartic level (unlikely)...
>>30761095
Dear Celestial, just kill me now.
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>>30761224
>What do you think of would be the most likely outcome then?

Anything but redemption, I am fucking sick of the show solving all its problems with the power of love. Love doesn't conquer all and not everybody wants or deserves to be redeemed. I mean Sombra was killed and even if he lived he probably would have scoffed at the idea of redemption.

Mind you I don't find killing her acceptable either since shes the closest thing on the show to a polar opposite to what the heros represent and stand for. Kill her or redeem her it leaves a vacuum which must be filled with something equally terrible or if shes redeemed moreso since that new enemy would have to be able to overpower her. It can be done but its fucking lame like with Tirek sapping an omnipotent being of his power and yet not becoming omnipotent himself. That is like an ant taking down an elephant, its fucking dumb.

Exhile or some sort of banishment from Equestria, it leaves the threat but diminishes it enough that the show can go on and it doesn't require fucking DBZ levels of power escalation to keep the narrative going which is where it will go if they redeem or kill her.
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>>30760908
I'd volenteer to help her start a new brood
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>>30761390
>Exhile or some sort of banishment from Equestria
I'm certain it'll go this way, even if they writers do go ahead and fucking kill/reform her in the end. They'd make her wander the world all sad and lonely, and whatnot.
>ill her or redeem her it leaves a vacuum which must be filled with something equally terrible or if shes redeemed moreso since that new enemy would have to be able to overpower her.
I wonder if the writers might try to expand outwards and dig into the origin of her evil (aside from being a bitch). The fact that all the changelings turned into gay moose shows thay they were freed from some kind of curse/blight, a blight they were liberated of once they lost connection with their Queen. Since Chrysalis appears physically decayed, the writers might go down the path and say that she acquired her corruption from an outside source, and it festered in her body for hundreds of years.
My prediction is after letting her wander around the revealing some crap about her and/or her race in a few flashbacks, the writers will then either let her die from some kind of illness/curse, or fucking tie-dye her. Then, if they're creative, they might expand on whatever kind of blight was supposed to infect her and maybe even chase that as "the source of evil". It wouldn't be unprecedented (see, even if it is fucking gay way to dispose of a perfect villain.
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>>30760888
Aw, little guy.
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>>30761390
>Exhile or some sort of banishment from Equestria, it leaves the threat but diminishes it
Are you implying the writers would still bring her back some point after banishment, as a recurring villain?
How would she go about planning that? She's certainly the vengeful type, but she's also become a lot less dangerous after losing control of her kingdom.
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>>30761824
They had to use a microscopic penis fluffer to erect it like that.
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>>30761092
Thorax must not have heard you because he was too busy being balls deep in some tight dragon pussy.
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>>30761890

Like throwing a french fry into a warehouse.

Thorax is 'petite' at best. He's definitely a bottom.

A very fabulous bottom
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>>30761916
What makes you think he likes it up the butt?
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>>30761950

The fact that he has a permanent pearl necklace was a strong indicator that he's a cumdumpster.
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>>30761890
Can Changelings even proliferate their species anymore at this point? They've lost their queen.
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>>30761890
>he was too busy being balls deep in some tight dragon pussy.

Bugs don't have balls. Balls are a uniquely mammalian trait.
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>>30761963
If they can't then

>>30761096
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>>30761992
They're changelings, I'm sure they can have balls if they wanted to!
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I seriously doubt anything good can come of more changeling episodes at this point. The core problem is that they're building on the rotten, nonsensical reformation the bugs got in the S6 finale.

You can't 'share love.' Love is not a commodity, it's an emotion you feel in relation to other things or people. Changelings may collect other ponies' love to feed, but the idea that they don't 'share' it with each other, and that this is the only thing holding them back from being 'good,' is nonsensical and ridiculous. They might as well have had Glimmer blast them with a generic magical spell to transform them into different creatures entirely.

It's so flimsy and shallow a resolution that it basically means Chrysalis and the changelings have no reason to exist other than anger/stupidity. They could transform themselves good at any moment with just a dash of self-reflection and therefore they can't really exist as bad guys anymore and are doomed to be transformed into rainbowdeer. Pharynx might be cool but I seriously doubt he can escape the reformation ray for more than a few minutes of screentime.

And of course the writers haven't backtracked on 'King' Thorax, who is now written to be a weak homosexual stereotype (all that's missing is a lisp). He has absolutely no right or reason to lead the nubugs but remains their impotent monarch essentially by writers' fiat. What an incredible waste of a character; it's like he exists only to be the useless foil to Chrysalis' cunning and competency.
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>>30762003
>>30761096
>Literally gayed out of existence
Fug..!
>>30761023
>>30761159
That actually makes me wondera bit more about the origin of the changlings hive.. The ending of To Where And Back Again implies that their super-cool sleek black form isn't their "original" form, implying that that there was a time in the past when they all looked that gay
>implications.
>>30762093
It won't be the same.
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Jesus Christ, it's about time this came back!
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It's kinda sad that this thread got brought back only to be filled with sad predictions of things to come. Not like it's easy to be too optimistic given the treatment bug ponies received so far.
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>>30763053

Nothing has changed. Chrysalis has always been a villain, and all (serious) predictions regarding her and her hive have always been about them getting their asses handed to them, because that's the only way the show can go.
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>>30761096
There's actually a female changeling in an S8 poster during one of Hasbro's investor slideshows. Excuse the crap quality, source wasnt pretty either.
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>>30763090
Almost their entire species turned gay, that sure is something.
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>>30763097
pic?
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>>30763103
Total genocide would've been better than this.
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>>30763097
Fuck, forgot the picture.
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>>30763103
Uhuh. And aside from Thorax, the new design is great.
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>>30763111 checked
>>30763097
Mother fucker!
https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/08/hasbro-investor-webcast-contains-tons.html
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>>30763169
>https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/08/hasbro-investor-webcast-contains-tons.html

Gee Hasbro, you can at least pretend to care about something other than dollar signs
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>>30761961
Fuck, now I'll never unsee it.

Actually... this makes him significantly easier to look at. Thanks Anon.
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>>30763250
It's a slideshow for investors, of fucking course its gonna be about money.
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>>30761961
Thank you for searing that image into my brain. I have even less empathy for the extinction of the species now than I did before.
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>>30763111
Is that blue abomination supposed to be reformed chrysalis???
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>>30763331

Seriously too smally to be Chryssi
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>>30763250
The show is a glorified commercial to sell toys to little girls. What else do you fucking expect from an investors' slideshow?
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>>30764295
>We will never get an in universe joke about how silly the changelings look now
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Well I just got to the season six finale and this was my reaction

>pic related

What the fuck was that? WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT!

So Thorax giving all his love turned him into a nubug... okay. Lame but okay. But the other changlings doing the same thing WITHOUT HESITATION! What happened to their instincts? You know those same instincts which directed them to protect the queen when the hive was invaded, or the ones which made Thorax revert to his real self when in front of Flurryheart?

Thorax is an aboration, he was born different from the others so I could see him doing it but for the other Changlings i'd expect the decision to be being given the choice to do nothing or to slit their own wrists!

Love is their lifeblood, and sucking it up to survive is literally part of their very being. I'd expect the decision to give up love to be like deciding to amputate a limb or slice open ones stomach.

That 'finale' almost pissed me off as much as when Twilight became an Alicorn for something Starlight Glimmer did but got no recognition at all.

I'm done catching up for the night, I don't think I'd be able to take the clusterfuck todays episode was supposed to be not that I'd get to it for about six hours anyway.
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>>30764505
To be fair I think they realized that ALL the Changelings becoming skittles was retarded because an upcoming episode is Thorax dealing with a splinter group that didn't want to be skittles
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>>30764505
Also should mention Discord not being able to use magic kind of pissed me off too (I mean it was fun but I got my reasons). Hes supposed to be a demi-god, someone so powerful that it took the elements of harmony to stop him. He can rip holes into the fabric of completely different realities and bend his own to whatever shape he wills.... But now? Hes a joke, you don't even need the elements anymore to beat him as apparently chaos magic is no different than pony magic. Just cast an anti-magic bubble or something and problem solved.

The whole cornering him with Fluttershy was what I was expecting, they didn't need to take away his magic to do it though or if they did they could have at least linked it to his feelings for Fluttershy saying it made him vunderable or something.
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>>30762277
>It won't be the same.
Meh... I could make it work.
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>>30765222
Trips demand respect.
Thorax could make it work.
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>>30759488
that one line saved the fucking show for me
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>>30764530
And how exactly do you think it will end?
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Crossover when?
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>>30764505
>>30764539
Welcome to the club senpai. I don't think any other episode has enraged me more than that one.

It really is baffling to me why the ending was written that way. I guess it was the only way they could think of to wrap the episode up as quickly as possible, but the decision to let Chrysalis go is really weird. I don't think the writers are thinking that far ahead that they wanted to keep using her as a recurring villain, so it's just strange that they let her go at the end, even though she's basically the only reason why the changelings are dangerous at all. IMO the easiest way to fix the ending would make the resolution that "love freely given" reforms the changelings, but in that case cheeselegs is the one that gets reformed first when Thorax surrenders his love to her.

I dunno, the whole changeling situation post-finale is a dumpster fire. I could think of a half dozen ways to write the episode better, to say nothing of their terrible new designs.
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>>30766073
>/mlp/ continues it's streak of good taste.

>>30767020
A better way for that episode to have gone would have been chrysalis be the one to get metamorphised, since at least then it would make sense somewhat.

>Love is a fuel source.
>Activing choosing to give away said fuel source doesnt actually do so and instead makes it limitless.
I think this pisses me off more than the design choice, they completely phoned in that season finale despite it being 2 parter.
Hell, there's more focus on glimmer than anything else, the entire first part is essentially "Starlight has issues." while the actual meat of the finale ends up in the last half of part 2.
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>>30753655
Daily reminder that bugbutt has no butt

>inb4 MUH BATELFURM
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>>30770058
Her existence truly is hell.
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>>30770058
Just imagine how tight it must be.
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Just had a dumb idea for another way the changelings could have been reformed, taking advantage of another thing the writers forgot - the fact that Thorax created his own 'ponysona' of sorts.

Maybe during the finale Thorax could have revealed that under Chrysalis, no changeling is allowed to create their own disguise - they are only allowed to impersonate other ponies. Then during the episode climax, while cheeselegs is monologuing about taking over the world, Thorax and company tempt the other drones away with the promise that they can be creative and invent their own characters, to live and be loved by ponies without scaring the shit out of them. The drones all end up disobeying Chrysalis en masse, leaving her alone in the hive. Episode ends with changelings transforming into all manner of crazy OC characters and running around Ponyville meeting everyone.

No transformation needed, episode is resolved in a sensible way without obliterating a race, and has a resolution that fans would probably enjoy (everyone has an OC, right?).
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>>30771175
It's not physically possible to fuck it up any more than the actual episode did. Your idea is brilliant compared to what we got.
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>>30771175
There is always the possibility that the rogue changelings, chrysalis, thorax, and the ponies will have to set aside there differences to team up against a larger foe. maybe Tirek escapes, discord goes apeshit... again... or something like that. Once the dust settles maybe they'll all just accept each other.
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>>30771604
I think we'll see them both face to face when Thorax completes his leadership training

then,Chrysalis will show up and see how different everything is.

Most likely it will end with a duel and the Harmony forces help to defeat her,or maybe it happens to appear a bigger evil force than both(like you said)

I don't think she'll be killed.However,she's probably starving out there while the season 7 episodes are happening in the timeline
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>>30771897
>probably starving out there
Nah, she's probably having a feeding frenzy. Shining Armor's love enabled her to defeat Celestia. If she can absorb a bunch of love from a large amount of ponies or the crystal heart, she would be unstoppable! Also, if she had rouge changelings on her side, they could help her collect even more love.
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>>30771604
I'm telling you, Grogar should be brought back as the father of dark magic or something

Seriously, we really haven't gotten any explanations one where all this dark magic kept coming from, normally I'd just say "probably just there" except all dark magic looks the same, green lasers with black jagged crystals, or black jagged crystals that glow green
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Was listening to this song earlier and I thought it fit in well with Chrysalis, especially after being dethroned by Thorax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a132IodTPDY

>You're acting all holy, and me I'm just full of holes
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Hold up, if there's several Changelings who didn't stop stealing love, why are they still with Thorax instead of following Chrysalis?

I mean, Thorax said that he's trying to give them orders and shit so I assume they're not with Chrysalis considering she would probably rip his shit if he came anywhere near her.
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>>30773053
Maybe we'll get to see converted Changelings revert to their good ol' black cheese legs forms again.
I'd like it better if Changelings could choose what side to be on and what form they take.
After all if they can change, why couldn't they change back?
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>>30771953
Honestly, it makes no fucking sense for chrysalis to have these vendettas with Starlight (or twilight in the comics)

She should have been cadence's personal nemesis-- she's basically the antithesis of what Cadence's domain as an alicorn is, and cadence has an artifact composed of her army's food source.

>>30773579
Sadly, the leaked info/synopsis advertisements for this season state that pharynx learns how love is a strength, pretty clearly showing that the episode will end with all the remaining changelings turning into gay beetles.
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>>30773579
>>30773599
My biggest question is what the fuck are they going to do with Chrysalis in the end?

Fuck the skittle commercial Changelings, she's the only one who matters at this point, and the only things they can do with her is permanently remove her (King Sombra style explosion or hell jail) or also fucking her design up. I'm almost certain she's going to be Starlight Glimmers final boss, which worries me that she's also going to be Starlight's "ultimate friendship lesson" point.
I'd honestly prefer death, but I don't think the odds are very high.
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>>30771953
She has enough brownies that love her
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>>30774078
I really don't know what's going to happen. With all these new writers and staff at the helm any semblance of character or story continuity is going out the window.

I had always assumed that any 'return of the changelings' episode would star Twilight or one of the princesses, since they have the most beef with Chrysalis. Well NOPE, the whole thing was a Glimmer episode and now she's enemy number one. Ever since S6 I assumed that Flurry Heart would also feature heavily in a changeling episode. After all, she's the daughter of Chrysalis' greatest enemy, and changelings were creatures known for stealing children in medieval lore. Well NOPE, Flurry is kidnapped along with the entire pony royal family and almost never mentioned in all of the finale.

If they do make Chrysalis a final boss for Glimmer, one that ends with reform, I think that will finally be enough to get me off the ride. Throwing old characters under the bus for the sake of new ones really rubs me the wrong way.
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>>30774078
Honestly, I have no idea.

She won't die, since this is a Hasbro show and the only villain to die is Sombra, and he's as much of a non-entity as Sauron, maybe moreso.

She won't decided to become a sparkledeer after a speech about friendship because, well, if they wanted /that/, why did they have her reject it in the first place? Besides, it would make her character arc more-or-less a copy of Glim Glue Glam Glom.

She won't turn into Team Rocket since the show doesn't really do recurring villains. The comic, maybe, but the comic is noncanon shit anyway.

She won't get turned to stone since again, reusing villain defeat methods isn't really something the show does. Luna got her anger magically excised from her, Discord got turned to stone, Chrysalis V1 got blown away all the way to the Badlands by a Huey Lewis song, Sombra is fucking dead, Glim Glam Thank You Ma'am was ousted by a popular revolt and later got diplomanced, and Chrysalis V2 had to watch as her whole family got turned to a mockery of her race and ran away after a pony imperialist who knew nothing about changelings, their history, or their culture lectured her.

The most likely option is that she'll just be forgotten about by the creators and never seen again. The best option is that she'll get a Vegeta style redemption and she'll technically be a good guy but still hate everyone.

But who knows! Maybe she'll beat the heroes, get her hive back, and learn how to be sort of not evil I guess along the way.
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>>30775489
oh yeah and tic tac toe was banished to hell by the 80s I guess.
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>>30771835
>"Yes, this is changeling tech support, how may I help you?"

>>30775241
>"MA'AM! MA'AM! THE POWER BUTTON! JUST PUSH THE FUCKING SWITCH IN FRONT! CELESTIA H TAP DANCING CHRIST!"
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>>30770058
>implying its a bad thing
>implying a tiny, tight queen ass is a bad thing

wow who let the fuckin queers in here?
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>>30766073
Best game this year so far.

Rain World, Yakuza 0, Sanic Mania, Gravity Rush 2 and Tekken 7 come right behind it.
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>>30778068
Fat bug is a qt, Zote the Faggot doesn't deserve her.
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>>30778136
To be fair, she's the one who chooses to leave you. She's a dumb whale for fugging and that's it.

Better hope Hornet looks cute underneath her mask, because the others are either dead, gone, taken or a cannibal.
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So what if Thorax sounded like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oXsOmqs6R4
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>>30778271
>>30778068
>>30769990
>>30766073
Fuck all of you!
Your posts made me by this game
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>>30779274
Well enjoy it anon, it's a good game
Deepnest is absolute hell though
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Physalis story when
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>>30760908
Isn't that like incest. Actually now that I think about it how are they going to reform Chrissy, she can't possibly become queen again but she should be the same size a Thorax. They could do the same thing they did with NMM and Luna, but I always hated that.
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>>30780318
>Isn't that like incest.
Where did I mention sex of any kind?
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>>30779274
The game actually managed to climb and put itself at my top two video games of all time, together with Silent Hill 2. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did, Anon. There's nothing more exciting to me than hearing someone else have just as good of an experience as I did with something I hold in such high regard.
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>>30780863
>tfw beat the Radiance and all the dream bosses today
I still have no idea what the story is about really
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>>30781163
TLDR
Radiance controlled all bugs in a hive mind before the king was born from a giant dragon wyrm and gave bugs the gift of SOUL and used that to seal her away and construct a large kingdom but radiance got pissed about being forgotten and unleashed a plague with the help of moth cultists that brought bugs back under 'her' control.
King dug deep and discovered VOID, which is essentially primordial ooze that can become anything, he uses this with SOUL to make a bunch of mechanisms and automatons in an effort to cure / stop / contain the plague which culminates in his hollow knights.
Each one has no identity of their own, so theres nothing for radience to corrupt. They all have their mission carved on the inside of their masks to give them purpose and their first task is to climb out of the pit they're born in.
The player character is the second to climb out, and for unexplaimed reasons is, for unknown reasons, outside of hollownest years after it was sealed and the game starts.
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>>30781258
>last paragraph.
Blame early morning phoneposting.
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>>30781258
So... Why was the original hollow knight a failure anyway? I mean we know that he wasn't truly hollow but why wasn't he completely hollow, he was created as an empty husk so where the fuck did he get thoughts and emotions from?
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>>30781312
The plague was strong enough to control his body directly. Dont forget that in the final fight, despite the state he's in, he's STILL trying to help you by stabbing himself over and over. He just didnt have the same connection to the void that you did, nor the power to attack radience directly in the dream realm. All he could do was contain it, which he was doing well enough until we cracked the seal. Radiance was only killed after we flooded his realm in VOID and subsequently returned to it.
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>>30781382
>he's STILL trying to help you by stabbing himself over and over
I thought he was stabbing himself because he was being completely controlled by the plague at that point, and was trying to release the infection to make himself stronger
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>>30781387
It's debatable, and the fact the plague was able to control your other sibling's dead body and the final scene where HK's specific voidghost helps you with radience leads me to think he was still fighting it/her the whole time.
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>>30781454
Oh boy, it's another "left up to the player" scenario.

Though there is one last thing I don't get
Why is the hollow knight so tall?
All the other vessels were small. The weird part is he was small when we saw him in the void heart cut scene (assuming that was the hollow knight) but for some reason he became fuckhuge while the knight stayed just as tiny after all those years.
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>>30781477
Yeah they're always fun for lore discussion.
Presumably its the plague mutating him, not many other bugs are as tall as he is.
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>>30781494
Honestly he's not unnaturally big, a lot of other bosses and even NPC's are about the same size or bigger. One of the things I like about the characters being bugs, you really don't have many limits with their designs so they went all out in making all of them look unique yet simple.
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Thorax R63 when?
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>>30780115
I want to taste her chocolate-minty goodness.
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>>30781716
The most delicious of all changelings
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>>30780115
>The day right after I ran out of mint chocolate chip
SCREW YOU!!!
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>>30781578
>What is derpibooru?
https://derpibooru.org/search?q=thorax+AND+r63
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>>30780863
So far it been pretty fun. It was kicking my ass until I switched from keyboard to controller.
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>>30774636
Is she really that popular amongst pastry goods?
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>>30787820
>while in reality it went like this
https://derpibooru.org/842126?q=oc%3Aphysalis
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>>30787901
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>>30753655
Is it really such a chore to find the pasta on desuarchive and control + c?
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>>30788013
As a matter of fact, it is. Been like this for a while now.
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>>30788301
arch.b4k.co still has search.
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>>30779274
Be sure to have a HK wikia tab open, a lot of secrets are near-impossible to find alone.
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>>30790373
But that takes the fun out of it Anon
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bug
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>>30782042
god some of those are absolute shit
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there is hope
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>>30795267
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>>30794596
>Hairy, equine tail
Barely looks like a /bug/ at all.
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>>30795586
I'd still fug it.
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>>30797720
No.
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>>30797842
But he looks so happy to see you!
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Still Best Bug.
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I'm a bit hesitant but I'm hoping to start posting Sovereign Claim 2 beginning tonight. I have two scenes written so far so I'll need some hounding to stay on task and to keep working on it.
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>>30796976
Floridian master race!
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>>30800877
HYPE
Y
P
E
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>>30797720
>>30797842
Thorax YES!
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>>30802446
>chained by the dock
I guess its one of those things that both make no sense and are extremely hot.
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>>30802614
Maybe it is meant to be permanent and is pierced on? But yeah, anything dock is incredibly hot.
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>>30802446
u-unf
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>9
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Sovereign Claim 2

>The air is crisp and cold on this breezy day.

>Bright sunlight warms where it touches but does little more than remind you of the days of summer that you had missed.

>In many ways it is like the day that you had returned to your kingdom.

>But now that the celebrations have ended, and the tears of joy have dried, there are duties to be fulfilled.

>Promises to be kept.

>Far from the busy streets of the Crystal Empire, you climb the stout hill where a single tree stands.

>Two changelings, one female and one male, wait for you there.

>They're unlike the others in both hue and temperament.

>But they have done well to fit into this world that is not their own.

>They've already dug the hole.

>It's small and shallow but it will do fine.

>Kneeling before the hole you look to one then the other of your adopted children.

“It's a nice spot. Do you think she would have liked it?”

>Your daughter struggles to contain her sadness as your son does his best to comfort her.

>”I think she would love it. It's… peaceful.” he answers.

>You take a deep breath and reach into your coat.

>She has served you well over the months.

>She had saved the three of you more times than you could count.

>But now it is time for her to find rest.

>You look down at the jagged dagger in your hand.

>A tightly wound strip of cloth serves as a handle for the makeshift blade of a changeling queen’s horn.

>Carefully, you begin unwrapping the blood and dirt stained cloth.

>You can hear the sorrow of your two children as they lay eyes on the last remains of their mother.

“I'm sorry that I couldn't do more.”

>”You've done more than anyone else could.” the changeling girl says softly.

>”More than we could have asked.”

>The dirty strip of cloth escapes into the wind as you consider the remains and the shallow grave before you.

“I still wish it was more.”

>The low howl of the wind punctuates the drawn out silence.
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>>30804658

>You fight back the lump in your throat as you see the tears in their eyes.

>What more can be said.

>All of the wishing in the world can't bring her back.

>And in the end, you really were too late to do anything to save her.

>You try to ignore the burning in your shoulder.

>The scar, a blackened mark laced with the magic given by a changeling queen, will always serve as a reminder.

>It is also the reason why her children will never abandon you.

>Of course, sooner or later you would have to explain it.

>Chrysalis had noticed the mark and while she didn't ask, you could see her curious eyes linger on it.

>”F-Father?” a small voice breaks the silence. “What's going on?”

>You turn to find Amethyst standing a short distance behind you wearing a concerned expression.

>The male changeling moves to intercept her flaring his wings out in a show of force.

>”Get out of here!” he barks, “This is private! You have no…”

>“Vis!” his sister hisses before you can even react.

>She struggles to wipe away her tears as she scolds her brother.

>”We're family now. She has every right to be here with us.”

>Vis hesitates for a moment, staring Amethyst down as he considers his sister’s words.

>He gives you a glance before relenting with a small grumble. “Sorry, Lene.”

>”You should apologize to her.”, Lene says.

>”N-no… It's alright.” Amethyst says quickly.

>She looks ready to turn and leave when you speak up.

“Please, Liss…”

>You mentally scold yourself for calling her by her old name.

“Amethyst... Come have a seat with us.”

>Amethyst hesitates looking to Vis who then looks away, neither giving his consent nor objection to your request.

>Stepping gingerly she moves closer keeping eyes on Vis for any reaction.

>Only when she looks away from him does she see the queen’s horn cradled in your hands.

>She gasps and looks to you her eyes begging for answers while her words fail to form. “Is… is that…”

“Yes. Queen Candeo... Their mother.”
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>>30804666

>Amethyst looks to Vis and Lene then back to you. “D-does Mother know about this?”

>With a sigh, you shake your head.

“No. What we're doing here is no secret but… it's just been hard to talk about.”

>You close your eyes and let another sigh escape your chest.

>All of the memories come flooding back into your mind.

“I suppose there's no point in putting it off any longer.”
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>>30804672
Sorry it's not more. I need to space out what I have until have some time to work on more.
Posts might be short but hopefully if I get back into the swing of it that will change.
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>>30804685
No worries, glad to see you posting again!
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>>30807084
Now there's a movie worth watching.
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>>30796976
Florida Man is the hero we deserve
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>>30809922
Why is that cropped...
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>>30811846
It isnt...
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>>30811868
I'm pretty sure it is. I recall seeing the full picture quite some time ago but only this cropped version seems to get around.
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>>30812154
http://ask-teen-chrysalis.tumblr.com/post/73468544022
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>>30812164
I stand corrected.
I suppose I might have been thinking of the bottom panel.
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>>30804672

I had been running. World after unsuitable world I crossed holding my breath and shielding my face through toxic winds, blazing heat, and bitter cold. I had encountered strings of bad worlds before but never like this. I had been running so long. I had struggled so hard to keep going even as I felt the magic draining from my body. But it had been worth it.

I now stood in a vast field of tall grass.The full moon lined the distant horizon in silver light and illuminated the ghostly outline of my breath in the cool autumn air. And standing no more than a hundred yards away was my love. My queen. Even at a distance I could see her cool playful smile. I chuckled slightly remembering how I had teased her before we were truly acquainted and wondered if I was due a round of taunting.

I began to move toward her and she called out “Where are you?”. I smiled and replied, “I'm right here”. Her expression turned to worry as she called out again, “Where did you go? Don't leave me!” I began to run as the urgency in her voice drove me. “I'm here! I'm right here!”

The howl of the wind filled my ears and the image vanished but the call came once again. “Where are you? Please answer!”

My heart jumped and I opened my eyes to blasting wind and sand. Shielding my face as best I could I slowly pushed my aching body up and got to my feet.

“Help me! Please anyone!”

Instinct guided me while my mind was still a blur. I stumbled blindly toward the cries for help just struggling to keep one foot in front of the other against the wind. I didn’t know what I was expecting or what I was planning on doing when I reached whoever it was. I was only focused on getting there.
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>>30812808

Each step met the shifting sand with my full weight while I worked to pull my other foot free from desert’s grasp. My next step failed to find solid ground before I could react. Sharp rocks clawed at me down the shallow slope until I came to a harsh stop at the bottom greeted by a frightened squeal.

“V-Vis?! Is that you?”

I gave a pained groan in response before answering, “No”. In the dim light I could make out some movement. A shape moved over me and a light reached out from the top of the obscured form. In that moment of fleeting light I saw a face. It was a changeling. She screamed and shuffled back. Fearing she would disappear into the murky backdrop of the storm I reached out and grabbed her leg.

She cried out as she kicked wildly at me. Not knowing what else to do I quickly got to my hands and knees and crawled over to restrain the struggling creature.

“Stop! Stop fighting me! I’m not going to hurt you!”, I shouted over the roar of the wind.

“NO!” she cried back, “Let me go! Let me go, monster!”

I managed to get my weight over her and restrain her. Leaning closer I repeated firmly, “I’m not going to hurt you. My name is Anon. Where is the hive?”

She looked up at me and I could see it coming. Panic erupted from her. She screamed and struggled to get free.

A sharp kick just below the ribs knocked when wind out ot me. I gasped and struggled for breath as she squirmed away and began running with a noticeable limp.

I managed to get to my feet just as she vanished into the storm; her tracks eroding behind her. Still trying to catch my breath I moved in the direction she ran. Even with the way she was limping I knew I stood little chance of catching up to her in this storm. But I didn't know what else to do.

The vague imprints left in the sand soon diminished into nothing and again I was alone and hopelessly lost.
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>>30812830

“Lene!” A distant call echoed through the wind. It was so faint that I couldn't be sure of the direction it came from.

“Vis?!” A much closer call came. One that I could follow.

“Lene! Where are you?!”

“Vis! I'm here! I'm coming!”

The two continued their exchange drawing me in close behind Lene. Little by little her tracks returned.

“Vis?! Vis?! I'm almost there!” Lene yelled out to no reply.

What light there was grew dimmer yet and the wind kept at my back. I was certain we were approaching something. Some kind of shelter.

The sand parted at the base of a sheer rock face. The wind blowing along the wall made it impossible to look in either direction. I felt along the rock surface hoping I hadn't overshot where I had last heard the calls from.

The wall edged back under an overhang then gave way entirely to a wide opening. It was dark but with what little light shone in I could make out three shapes huddled together. Three changelings staring back at me in terror.

I didn't even get a word out before I was struck in the side of the head. The blow was hard enough to topple me into the dirt. I groaned, my head spinning from the impact. I struggled to stay conscious but my senses began to slip away. As the darkness closed in around me I saw something massive loom over me.
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>>30812839

I'm almost ashamed to say it but that is all that I have written at this moment.
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>>30770058
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28 again.
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>>30809922
>"O-Oh dear. Anon, a little help if you would?"
>Bending down, you begin to plug up all of her holes
>Eventually her legs are filled with corks
>"Thank you."
>She takes another deep, contented puff
>Her eyes grow wide as smoke seeps out of her from behind
"You uh, want me to plug that up too?"
>"Don't you dare."
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>>30819154
Would acquire her services.
Indefinitely.
By marrying her.
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what are your thoughts /bug/ personally, I'm excited and also scared, this could be one of the best or one of the worst episodes of the series, depending on how it's handled
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>>30820225
Oh my god, he's a red-and-purple OC. They fucking did it.
Welp, that's the end of that. Time to pack it up and retreat back into my headcanons.
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>>30820280
yeah those colour schemes are terrible but at least they kept the red to a minimum, so if nothing it could be worse
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>>30820312
I mean, I'm not against OCs but the subtle designs are always the best. It's not like they need him to stand out from a crowd, all his brethren were transformed into rainbow moths.
There's been a lot of meh to bad character designs on the show in general lately.
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>>30820225
Looks like Glim glam and Traxi found a few stragglers after their last genocide. Time to put the final nail in the coffin for the changelings that we know and love.
I'm still excited about the episode desu
Who knows, maybe they'll settle on some sort of compromise
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>>30812839

https://youtu.be/YY2Kb-85tMQ (Thomas Bergersen - Cry)

I woke slowly feeling the warmth of the sun against the side of my face and the dry wind rushing over me. I felt my form dangling; suspended from under my arms.

As I lifted my chin from my chest and lazily opened my eyes I saw the world rushing by in a blur of sand and stone far below. Nervous tension filled me. Fear struggled to take my groggy mind driving shuttering electricity up my spine.

The instinct to struggle revealed to me that my arms were pinned by hard unyielding chitten. My eyes drifted up to the hulking black monstrosity that had me in its grip. It was only then that the deep rumble of it's wings dawned on me being as deep and loud as to be felt as much as heard.

Even in my dazed state I could see the familiarity in this creature. The impossible reality that this enormous beast was a changeling.

My eyes fell forward and fear finally took hold. In the amber glow of evenings light, standing in defiance of the low horizon a black tower reached to the sky. It was easily twice the height of the Crystal Empire and spread just as wide.

A second roar of monstrous wings drew my attention left, away from the setting sun. From the side I could have no doubt that as twisted and massive as these creatures were, they were indeed changelings.

Held pinned to its chest under its forelegs were the three changelings I had only caught a glimpse of before I was knocked unconscious. Two males faced each other, their expressions angry arguing in shouts that could not overcome the sound of our captors. As if sensing my gaze the female looked up with tear soaked eyes. She opened her mouth as if to speak when they suddenly shot away and I felt myself thrown to one side by an abrupt change in course.
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>>30821882

I had barely regained my senses when I saw them again passing just below as we circled the black tower in opposite directions. Again and again they passed above and below as we gained altitude.

As we rose higher I could see the endless barren wasteland reach out to the horizon in every direction. This land was bleak and dead and in the middle of it stood the manifestation of sorrow and mourning.

Near the top I spotted only a few changelings working on the uneven surface of the tower, repairing damage of the storm that had first greeted my arrival to this world. One stopped for a moment and for that instant I saw defeat in his eyes.

My focus was again pulled away by a sudden shift in direction. My body was thrown up against the great beast that carried me as we rushed toward the ground. I can't recall if I screamed. I'm not even sure if I was capable of it at the time. The ground came at us and in an instant parted as we entered a tunnel just big enough for us to fit with little margin for error.
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>>30821898

The sound of the giant changeling's wings became deafening in the confined space. Intermittent light flashed past as quickly as the ground had passed outside. My body pulled downward as our course leveled and the confinement broke into a massive cavern around us.

Throughout the cavern changelings numbering in the hundreds toiled by torchlight under watchful gaze of of beasts not unlike the one that carried me. Most seemed to keep to their work while a few turned a curious eye upward as we passed. Looking to me with the same broken resolve as the one at the top of the tower.

My head became heavy and my vision began to fade. My mind and body had endured all they could. The looking sense of danger was the last thing I was aware of as sounds grew muffled and distant. Then there was again only blackness.
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>>30821910
Sorry. More short posts. I'm working with the little time I have but hopefully I'll find a little more tomorrow.
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>>30820225
>there are unmoosed changeroos out there
Is all I care about keeping canon. Whatever else happens in this episode I couldn't give a fuck less about.

We get to keep in our hearts and minds that there are original flavor lovebugs still out there to fantasize over.
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Hey /bug/

Boy it sure has been a long time since i picked this up, but here we go - A repost of one of the few bug stories I've written. Fresh from the depths of my iPhone when I used to goof off at work because those assholes never paid me enough.
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>>30822484
>A peace summit.
>They spread the rumor to draw her in.
>They would never find her, by her own merits, but they could blanket the communities with the gossip of negotiations.
>"They're trying to get the Queen to talk?! But why?! She's the worst of them all!"
>Fools.
>Ignorant fools.
>They know nothing of the truth.
>These months have been difficult but not impossible.
>Time to brood.
>Time to plan.
>This opportunity could prove useful.
>Chryssalis would make an appearance at this peace summit.
>Infiltration would be nigh impossible to the Crystal Empire with Shining Armor's barriers and wards.
>This would need to be a direct approach.
>Something nopony would ever expect, from the Hive Mother.
>Two days before the summit.
>A note arrives for Princess Cadance.
>"South entrance. No guards. No disguises."
>With a stamp of green and an insectoid seal.
>The entire security force was in complete chaos.
>"You're just going to meet her?!"
>"It said no guards. It didn't say you couldn't be there. You're my husband first, Shiny."
>It didn't sit well with Celestia or Luna.
>Nor the rest of the summit leaders.
>Everyone feared a trap.
>Once a deceiver, always so, as it were.
>Shining Armor and Cadance awaited at the southern entrance to the city, having dismissed the guards at the gate.
>The Royal Sisters and Twilight stood at the ready, along with King Thorax at the back of the group.
>Tensions mounted as a figure came into view of the gates.
>There she was.
>'Queen' Chryssalis.
>Alone. Naked. Or rather, undisguised.
>Everyone paused as she stopped at the gate.
>"You all look ridiculous."
>Her tone held some amusement to it, as if mocking them gave her some security or heightened self importance.
>"I suppose you wouldn't be so naive as to trust my -genuine- interest in your little meeting, in a civil manner."
>She passed Shining Armor and Cadance, walking toward the palace without so much as an awkward glance toward the traitor's presence.
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>>30822491
>"I... Suppose we can begin...?"
>The cadre of royalty looked at one another, hopelessly confused.
>The group made their way to the council chambers to discuss the future of Equestria...

>Celestia and Luna seemed to soften and announced the agenda for the meeting with enthusiasm.
>Optimism floated in the air despite the Queen's neutral expression.
>Ideas and words bounced around for actual claims of peace between the nations and mutual goals.
>Indeed, optimism.
>These pathetic fools and their hope.
>Chryssalis tapped her hoof to speak, standing from her seat.
>"There will NEVER. Be peace with the changelings."
>Everyone froze.
>"You simple minded ponies... You do not know what true loss is."
>Her eyes fell upon the new King.
>"To have your children torn from you by a pretender. By a vile cancerous mutation."
>"Everything I worked for. My hive of starving children. Slaves to our nature. A living parasite."
>"Can you even fathom what that is. To understand what the existence of a changeling suffers?"
>The shocked glanced and murmured whispers were reflected around the room.
>Guards flanked the doorways at the ready.
>"Had you no inkling of how my hive survived with no love..."
>"I was that love. My love. For all of my children. Be they a means to an end or happily satiated drones, they were my children."
>"And now they are all gone. Replaced and transformed into abominations."
>"They are NOT changelings."
>"I am the last of the changelings."
>"And so long as I may draw breath, there is nothing in this world or the next that will ever stop me from seeing all that you have built, all that you love..."
>"Wither. And. Die."
>"When you share the depths of my pain and loss. To see your children ripped from your bosom. Your heart destroyed and your efforts scorned..."
>"That is when I will accept your desires for peace."
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>>30822502
>Chryssalis turned from the table, casting only a sideways glance at the group of stunned royalty.
>"Either kill me now, or forever stay your hoof. Complete the genocide of the Changeling race while you have the chance, and live knowing your precious morals of love, tolerance and acceptance eradicated an entire race from the face of Equestria, or remain in fear that I am out there. And I will always be out there. I could be in your towns or cities, teaching your children. Your rolling meadows constructing a new fortress under your very noses. You would never know if I stole your children and replaced them, or if I took their mother and nurtured them like my own."
>The room was frozen, silent.
>"Or perhaps it is all a ploy. You can never trust a changeling."

>No one can move, let alone speak.
>Several minutes pass.
>"So be it."
>Though the guards move to cross their spears hesitantly to forbid her from leaving, her horn ignites and buffets them away in a concussive burst.
>"Tell your subjects what you wish. You'll understand my disbelief that you will share with them the truth of what was said here."
>Chryssalis stepped out of the chambers and followed her path out of city, flanked on all sides by guards.
>Her figure disappeared into the icy wastes as gently as she had arrived.
>The room remained silent.
>"What do we do?"
>"What should we say?"

>Days later

>"We would like to take this moment to welcome King Thorax and his fellow New Changlings into our midst. Formally recognizing their reform and wonderful acceptance of love and friendship will do wonders to move forward. The New Changelings are not to be feared. They will do you no harm."
>Celestia's calming voice makes for a glorious oratory and moving speech.
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>>30822514
>"Regrettably, we could not, however, reach an acceptable agreement with the former leader of the Changelings. Even with offerings of amnesty and assistance, former Queen Chryssalis would not be reasoned with. Where she has gone, we do not know. But we only know that she is out there and will not give up her evil ways."
>"Do not live in fear, my little ponies. She is one lone Changeling. The last of the evil hive that Thorax has helped reform and shape into a great kingdom of love and prosperity. Together, we can all find peace and harmony as one. If Chryssalis chooses to reject our friendship, we cannot force her to join us. We are not like her."

>Weeks later
>Everfree Forest
>A hovel by royal standards but it should suffice.
>The dilapidated castle formerly used by Celestia and Luna.
>It's no changeling hive but it would be more than effective to use as a base of operations.
>There was an odd residual aura of emotion here.
>Like an echo suspended eternally.
>Love, regret, sorrow, a veritable buffet of feelings to sate her own personal needs.
>She had plenty of anger, so she gave that a miss.
>Chryssalis used her magic to force the pair of thrones together and removed a portion of each side to form a much larger, grandiose throne.
>A splash of Changeling ichor and her new throne was born.
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>>30822526
>Chryssalis sat in the silence of the abandoned castle.

>It was more alone than she had felt in some time.


>MEANWHILE, AT THE HALL OF JUSTICE

>TS: "What are we even supposed to do with this?"
>PC: "That was a lot to take in..."
>SA: "We should have just captured her and held her prisoner... Thrown her in the caves like she did to Cadance."
>KT: "Those caverns... They had enough love in there to survive, if only just..."
>C: "...I should have ended her."
>A choir of gasps as Celestia lowers her head.
>L: "Sister! You cannot be serious! Have you truly given up on her? Would you have given up so easily on me?"
>C: "Chryssalis has threatened us before. And time and time again... And she has always won, save for the intervention of unforeseen individuals."
>Celestia turned her eyes to the council.
>C: "When she took Cadance, it was Twilight who saw through the deception with that silly dance."
>TS: "It wasn't that silly..."
>C: "Chryssalis was stopped by Starlight and Thorax, a pony and former subject she believed not to be a threat. Miscalculation and dumb luck was what caused her to fail..."
>The group contemplated this for a moment.
>C: "We know she is patient. She can wait for years to scheme and plan..."
>TS: "Do you think we'll be safe?"
>KT: "I'm not sure how strong she is alone. Or without her throne to give her extra magic."
>C: "We can't be sure. But we can't let everyone panic. She's still out there, and she will remain a serious threat... But until we know more, we should keep everypony calm."
>L: "So. Ignorance is bliss?"
>C: "For now... I don't like it anymore than you do. But we stand to lose far more by letting her threat get to us. If the ponies panic, it will be far more difficult to fight back."
>C: "If everyone is suspect of one another, if no pony feels safe... She wins."
>For now she must plan.
>Chryssalis took this moment to rest her head on her forelegs and sleep.
>Her mind was quiet.
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>>30822530
>There was no feeding of external drones into her consciousness.
>No thoughts or whispers of intrepid agents on search of political intrigue for later coups.
>She dreamed fitfully in an light slumber.
>A vast barren landscape.
>There was nothing here.
>Unlike the changeling lands, this was simply a vast wasteland of nothing.
>She should want it.
>But this was not her empire.
>This was the scorched earth remnants she wished to see the world decay into, but she felt empty.
>"I could be the last creature alive. Queen of all I survey... And ruler of nothing."
>Why she was questioning this path now was a distressing notion.
>A wavering glimmer of pale light descended down from the darkened moon.
>L: "This is a most strange turn of events."

>QC: "Princess Luna. What a nice surprise."
>L: "We are not pleased to be here. We should have forsaken the door to your dream without a second thought, but We still hold onto hope that-"
>QC: "That I'll become another one of your reformed former adversaries? That'll accept your principles as my own?"
>L: "That you would reconsider your desires for revenge."
>QC: "Feh. Revenge, you call it. Isn't that the negative word for justice?"
>L: "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, Chrysalis! Is this what you want? What you wish to see happen?"
>QC: "...No. My vision of what should be is not this barren waste."
>L: "Then let us -help- you! We are here for a reason. And that should be enough to show our genuine interest in assuring you are not ostracized or outcast from the world we all share."
>QC: "Save your redemption talk for-"
>L: "We do not hold our breath to await your acceptance of punishment for your crimes."
>QC: "Good, because that opportunity has presented itself and passed."
>L: "But we can understand a different perspective."
>This gave Chrysalis pause to her rebuke.
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>>30822543
>L: "If you were given back your kingdom, and your Changelings were not constrained to theft and brutality to extract the love you subsist on. What then? What would your world be with your hive restored and healthy, never wanting for anything."
>QC: "...Are you trying to trick me into accepting that mutant as 'what I really want' for my children?"
>L: "We want to understand."
>QC: "I thought you weren't holding your breath. You will NEVER understand."

>L: "We can never understand your kind of loss. We want to know what can repair some of the damage. Not all scars heal with time. We know this more than anyone."
>Chrysalis let out a sigh as her eyes drifted shut. The dreamscape faded from the barren wasteland and returned to the appearance of the desert hive.
>Drones buzzed around, but not in defensive manners. They were carrying supplies, and the hive was growing.
>Deep inside, Chrysalis' army consisted of a rather ceremonial cadre of guards in elegant armor.
>Regulars marched in droves, but the sheer insignificance of her standing forces vastly contrasted her invasion fleets of years long passed.
>Standing at her throne, she gazed down at her loyal subjects with pride.
>A royal messenger pegasus flew in, flanked by escorts to deliver something.
>All the while she could feel Luna's presence behind her.
>QC: "My utopia for my children... Where they defend themselves, but need no reason to attack."
>A pause.
>QC: "Love of one another and love of the larger whole; A hive mind without one."
>L: "And how is that any different from the transformation undertaken by King-"
>Chrysalis let out a hiss.
>QC: "They have no loyalties! No principles! They so brazenly cast off their lifetime of belief, and for what? To 'ascend' to that abominable form of colorful excrement? Who is to say they will not just as easily turn turncoat on you and your alliances as well?"
>Luna stepped back.
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>>30822548
>QC: "You all lived by those words, did you not? 'Never trust a Changeling.' And you trust him now? He may be an incompetent fool, so easily manipulated and lead along your leash..."
>QC: "But fear those individuals that YOU have helped create. The mavericks, the rogues, the renegades. They will be the ones to lead the others down far darker roads than I dared travel."

>Days later.
>A few communities have begun accepting changelings into their folds without disguises, but many choose to wear them merely for convenience.
>Ponyville welcomed at least a dozen. Maybe more.
>You could never tell, really.
>Occasionally the disguised changelings would bump into their host form, causing a fright and some confusion, but always with a smile.
>Disgusting.
>Bide her time. That would be the key.
>Chrysalis must not act hastily.
>Discovery would undo any progress she may be making, however small.
>...Or would it?
>She watched a small group for several days.
>Tracking patterns and schedules.
>Mannerisms.
>Quirks and hobbies.
>Three days of stalking revealed one of the Changelings to her, and she made her ploy.
>Deliberately, she bumped into the drone, wearing her disguise of a mint colored unicorn.
>At first the drone laughed and apologized to Lyra, but paused as he heard her laugh go from comical to maniacal.
>Her eyes flashed green.
>In a panic the drone sprinted away, calling for help.
>Chrysalis made her escape and disappeared back into the forest before anypony could notice.
>Sew the seeds of discontent and reap the chaos that grows.
>Everypony was soon frantically looking for Lyra, only to find her at Sugarcube Corner with Bon Bon sharing some pie.
>Numerous questions followed, accusations and rebukes against her.
>So panicked were they over the chance that already Chrysalis had returned that they started a small witch hunt.
>Perfect.
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>>30822551
>Ponyville was the first phase.
>Just three citings.
>It was enough to make Twilight step in and curb the panicked ponies from turning on one another.
>The changelings were slowly removed from the community, much to the shame of Twilight.
>The Royal Princesses convened for another meeting as word of Chrysalis sightings popped up in Canterlot.
>TS: "This is terrible... Everypony is pointing hoofs at the Changelings because of Chrysalis!"
>C: "I know, Twilight."
>KT: "We shouldn't force them to accept us. We can return to the hive and let them adjust. It's still a shock to everypony.
>PC: "But this shouldn't be happening! She's by herself! How can she cause this much trouble!"
>L: "We were able to do much with our mere presence at Nightmare Night. Perhaps it is her legacy of terror that serves to be such an effective motivator for the fears of our subjects."
>C: "We need to reassure everypony that Equestria is safe. That's all we can do. If we give in to her fearmongering... We don't know what lengths our scared citizens may go to to find her..."
>A one Queen guerilla campaign of mere laughing in the faces of her former subjects.
>Truly, the grandest scale of terror tactics.

>Three weeks.
>Over the last month there were over a dozen sightings of the fallen Queen.
>The new Changelings had all but reclused to their hive, despite the protests of Twilight and the other Royalty.
>King Thorax was discouraged, but held onto hope that it was a passing phase.
>The ponies were warned to share secret phrases with one another to try and catch deception in the act.
>But no more sightings occurred.
>A day passed.
>And then a week.
>Once the changelings had returned to their hive, the sightings stopped.
>It did little to ease the fears of the ponies, but life started to otherwise resume its natural course.
>Elsewhere, Chrysalis brooded.
>The castle had slowly begun to take the form and shape of a more insectoid lair, even without randomly changing passages.
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>>30822577
>Deep below, she had spent weeks coating the dungeons in ichor and jelly.
>Soon she would have her nesting ground, but she would need several hosts.
>A plan had already been formed for these hosts to be captured.
>The plucky little trio of fillies would be perfect.


>Cheerilee pointed out the agenda for the coming week.
>"Alright, students! Is everyone clear on the assignment?"
>A choir of "Yes, Ms. Cheerilee!" echoed back.
>"Good! And remember, the most adventurous team will get bonus credit! So get out there and do your best!"
>The crowd of schoolfoals dispersed from the hall, with the Crusaders floating ideas on what to do.
>They didn't expect inspiration to come from Zecora.
>The zebra was carrying a full pack and chatting cordially in her rhyming tone.
>AB: "Hey, maybe we could do a project on something with Zecora!"
>Chicken: "Yeah! No other group would be brave enough to find something cool in Everfree Forest!"
>SB: "Is that really the best idea...?"
>Z: "A-ha-ha, ho-ho, hehe! Brave are you wee little three. But worry not, if solace you seek. You can remain with me for the week."
>The trio mulled it over.
>Z: "Just be sure to pack for a stay! It would be a shame to camp only one day! Be careful and if need you help, don't be afraid to call with a yelp."
>After some bickering, they agreed that Everfree would be a great project.
>Zecora agreed to wait for them to gather their things, settling down at the edge of the road leading from Ponyville to the forest.
>Soon, she mused.

>Soon.

>The trio met with Zecora with their little packs.
>Chit chatting along about what they could find that no other group would do a report about.
>Zecora paused outside of her hut.
>"That's quite enough of this."
>The Crusaders paused, looking at the zebra.
>Chicken: "Did... Zecora just NOT make a rhyme?"
>The zebra's form shimmered and dispersed into the figure of Chrysalis.
>[Loud Screaming]
>QC: "QUIET!"
>Fillies frozen in terror.
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>>30822583
>QC: "Don't be so silly. It isn't like I'm going to eat you or something."
>AB: "W-Whadda you want with us?"
>QC: "I need your help."
>SB: "Why would we help you! You've been scaring everypony and got the good changelings kicked out!"
>Chrysalis fought to neither grin at the success not scowl at the calling of those abominations as Changelings.
>QC: "Because if you help me, you will help them, too. You think me evil because everypony says I'm evil. You never thought of my side to the story?"
>The trio of fillies looked to one another.
>QC: "I only wanted to feed my hungry children... And my plans would have given them enough food for them to never starve again."
>AB: "But now they don't have to take no love from anypony! They can-"
>QC: "Be forever suspect of ulterior motives because you ponies will NEVER trust the Changelings, completely."
>SB: "Then why would we trust you?"
>QC: "Because if you go back and tattle tale that you found me in Everfree Forest, who knows how many ponies could get hurt searching for me here? And for what? To drive me elsewhere to be somepony else's problem?"
>The crusaders again turned to one another.
>QC: "I require you to merely think of your families and loved ones, briefly. Residual love for sustenance and that is all I ask. My little mischief takes an enormous toll when I do not have any source to sustain myself."
>Chrysalis allowed her gaunt form to shake and weakly stand on her wobbly legs.
>The Crusaders discussed about the right and wrong choices, helping the hungry bug or not.

>Chrysalis could always count on the goodie goods to 'do the right thing'.
>AB: "Alright, but jus' enough to help..."
>SB: "So we just think about our sisters?"
>QC: "Just relax and focus on your family... Happy thoughts and warm memories."
>The two crusaders sat and closed their eyes, drawing up some happy, silly times with their older siblings.
>Scootaloo sat there, a mild frown.
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>>30822616
>Chrysalis could feel the growing aura of love, but not from the small pegasus.
>QC: "Are you not interested in helping?"
>Chicken: "I... Apple Bloom and Sweetir Belle are my family."
>The queen felt a stab of pain into her heart as she realized the true scope of the filly's words.
>Her leg eased out, wrapping around her and pulling her close to her body.
>QC: "You poor dear..."
>Though skittish, Scootaloo didn't think it a good idea to openly resist.
>The bug stroked a good through her mane, doting on the filly with a sigh.
>QC: "You're lucky to have such... Caring friends, to call them family."
>Scootaloo let herself relax and press her head against Chrysalis's chitinous body.
>She felt something different now.
>As she passively absorbed the love from the other two, she felt her own maternal instinct taking over.
>A portion drifted from her to Scootaloo much like how she had previously supplied her hive or injured drones.
>Her form began to shimmer.

>It was not a transition like the new King had undergone.
>Instead her form cracked and split, fragments of her body falling away.
>It was a kind of molting that she had experienced before, but not with such sudden onset.
>She eased Scootaloo away from her, standing up and taking a few steps back.
>QC: "This is... Unexpected..."
>Large pieces of her form fell away with a soft blue and green glow shining out of the gaps in her body.
>Her form stood upright, as if posing with pride as a mild shockwave dispersed from her, breaking free of the remaining molt.
>As the magical discharge subsided, the Queen stood renewed, her colors more vibrant, her wings full and bright.
>It was not the randomly generated hex value color pallet vomitted onto her former children, but a simple invigoration of new life and energy.
>Her mane and wings had none of the tattered appearance of her previous molt.
>The holes in her limbs were fewer, but not eliminated.
>The Crusaders stepped back in awe.
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>>30822623
>QC: "...Perhaps there is a way."

>QC: "My body molts when it absorbs and distributes more love than can be sustained... A kind of evolution."
>She stretched her cooling, hardening body.
>QC: "With your help I've achieved a new level... And have an idea."
>Scootaloo looked up to her.
>Sc: "An idea for what...? Are you gonna let us go now?"
>QC: "Unfortunately, no. I will need more of your assistance... Especially you- ... What is your name, deary? You were the most necessary one, for this to happen. I shall not abide by calling you 'little pegasus."
>AB: "Don't tell 'er nothin', Scootaloo!"
>Sweetie Belle covered her face with her hoof.
>QC: "...Adorable. But, you three will accompany me to my lair and assist me there. Perhaps I was too hasty, or perhaps this is a fools gambit. But I may have a new way to take back what is mine and protect you all from that treasonous Thorax."
>SB: "But he's a good guy! You're the-"
>QC: "However long he remains good and content to sit in -my- castle is anypony's guess. Ambition is a dangerous thing and he has all the experience of a soda cracker for leadership."
>AB: "And how would we help you? Why should we trust you, now!"
>QC: "Because my plan has not changed in overall scope. Merely a different strategy. And it doesn't involve keeping you hostage, anymore."
>Sc: "Anymore?! So you were lying all along!"
>QC: "Of course I was. I'm the big bad evil Queen Chrysalis. All I do is lie and try to steal the love from Equestria."
>The sarcasm was not a good fit.

>QC: "...About that, yes. But things have changed. And it could be better for everypony. But you will need to cooperate with me."
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>>30822650
And that's what I wrote a year or two ago. If it seems like it's worth continuing, I'll do so.
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>>30822684

Why celestia was so harsh with the changeling?
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>>30822694 She's a racist.
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>>30822654
I remember this one.
Interesting premise, but format you use (Character:"Dialogue") is not a good choice in my opinion. Half of the story it was obvious who was talking, other half would be obvious with a single line of "Applebloom agreed begrudgingly" or "said Sweetie Belle". It makes for more vivid and enjoyable read.
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>>30760504
>moose
Those aren't fucking antlers.
Those are clearly beetle mandibles.
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>>30823370
On the top of the head?
Thats even more retarded!
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>>30822654
Your story got pastebinned a while ago https://pastebin.com/6PqjcfSV

You should definitely continue, that dream/Luna sequence was really nice, and we could definitely use another post-S6 story, especially if Thorax and their kind get their comeuppance.
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How do his wings work when he has a giant carapace on his back? Are the wings going through the carapace? It looks translucent. I wonder why they used a hybrid design instead of just the old changeling design.
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>>30822417
>Absent changelings report back into the hive.
>Queen's fucked off.
>Everyling's set up for some sort of circus.
>This big faggot's in charge saying we should share the love.
>His brother's apparently being a huge edgelord.
>tfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FjWe31S_0g
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I don't know why I like this character so much, she's just the perfect villainess.
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>>30827272
I think there's a good chance there will be some more flashbacks as Thorax as a grub in the upcoming episode.
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>>30827396
Her design is truly inspired, plus her reveal and first episode was perhaps the greatest moment in FiM's running history.
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>>30821910

The corridor was dark and seemingly endless. I was unsure as to how I came to be there or where I was trying to go. All I knew is that I had to keep moving.

The passage snaked back and forth at times seeming as though it might intersect with itself but the walls remained solid and constant, broken only by the occasional locked door. I had long since stopped checking them.

The monotonous sound of my own footfalls echoed away and back again. Each step became a hammer blow to my skull. I couldn't stop. I had to keep going but if I continued I was sure to go mad before I reached… wherever it was that I was going.

I slowed after a time. I began to question my motives. Why couldn't I stop? Why couldn't I just stop and rest a while?

The thrumming in my head pushed its way to the front of my mind. The unbearable drumming of my feet against the stone floor. I couldn't take it anymore. I curled my lips and growled a curse in defiance of my own mission.

I let one foot fall next to the other and I stopped. It was so wrong and yet it felt so good.

The silence was exquisite. Suddenly I could hear the sound of my own breathing. I could head low pulsing of my heart. And then I heard the whispers. Distant yet familiar, I recognized them as the ghostly voices of the Crystal Empire. The voices that had spoken to me all those months ago.

I listened carefully trying to make out what they were saying. I tried so hard to hear them but another sound drown them out. The sound of my footsteps.

I looked down to see my feet were still stationary but the sound continued. Again and again it beat through my head. It was so loud I could feel it in my chest.

Through the noise I could still hear them though. The whispers beckoning me forward with promises of relief from the endless drumming.
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>>30828705

I ran. I ran forward in a desperate attempt to escape it all. Where was I? What was I doing? Where was I trying to go? These questions filtered through my breaking mind. I felt I was about to either snap or die. Clutching my head I screamed and then there was silence.

Slowly and cautiously I brought my arms down and looked around. I was now someplace different yet similar. It was the same stone wall and floor but the corridor had become a large open room lined on each side by stone pillars.

The whispers returned sounding much closer now. I looked around trying to find their source but it seemed to move from place to place.

“What do you want?” I shouted. “Why am I here?”

The whispers receded behind one of the pillars and from the other side stepped a pony. One I knew but only fleetingly.

“L-Luna?” I said recognizing her face.

Although familiar she was different somehow. Older… Ancient even. Her coat was pale; pulled tight over visible bones. And her mane hung to one side limp and lifeless.

She looked at to me and even with her eyes shut tight she seemed to look through me. It was as if we were in the same room but not in the same world.

“Y-you’re not Luna… are you.” I said more as a statement than a question.

Slowly… reluctantly her eyes opened showing featureless glowing orbs. Her mouth opened but didn't move to speak. The whispers flowed out from inside her.

“I don't understand.” I said in reply. “What am I supposed to do?”

She walked to a door that hadn't previously been there. It opened before her to a brightness that enveloped her as she walked through and I followed.

As my eyes adjusted I found that Luna had vanished as did the door behind me. I stood in room ringed with pillars. Wrapped around each one was one or more bright luminescent chains. From the pillars they all reached inward toward a point where their combined light was too bright to look at.
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>>30823334
I could re-write this in a proper 'story' format and do it on FIMFic or some shit, or just a separate pastebin file.

>>30823610
I spent most of the day building jetbikes and after I felt my sanity eroding from all the fiddly little bastard Eldar bodies, I switched to painting my Croatian Tau commander. I'll poke around at this tomorrow.
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>>30766073
If the knight had no mind to think and all that, basically a completely empty shell with only one purpose, why did he sit with Quirrell at blue lake?
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>>30828716

I stepped forward into the ring of pillars. The chains rattled and shifted. Whatever was bound by them was alive and seemed to be aware of my presence.

The whispers returned but lacked a defined point. They seemed to come from everywhere and their tone was desperate.

The thing in the middle of the room moved again; not violently but just enough to rattle its chains.

An uneasiness came over me quickly growing toward fear. I stepped back and instinctively reached back to find a pillar. My hand brushed one of the chains and from the point of contact the light of the chain faded and went dark.

One by one blackness crept across each link as it expanded toward the center. The light began to fade. Darkness fell. I heard the chains pull tight then snap. I opened my mouth to scream but it was too late. A great darkness rushed over me.
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>>30828739
Another three posts but that's all I could do with an hour of sacrificed sleep. I hope it's... something.
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>>30828759
Posting past bed time... on a school night!
You mad man!
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>>30821918
Is this Anon named Randolph Carter, and is that thing carrying him actually a Byakhee, or perhaps a Nightgaunt, rather than a Changeling?

I wanted to ask now, before things started getting rugose and squamous.
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>>30822694
She's very protective of her little poners.
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>>30827396
>>30828564
I think part of it is her character design. I can't recall who designed her but it WASN'T Lauren Faust. One of the other character designers on the show. I think she's a big horror manga fan and the character design was influenced by... dammit, I can't recall her name. There's a woman in Japan who draws horror manga in a creepy/cute style, and lots of the mutated creatures she draws have holes in their limbs. And the manga artist is a big H.R. Giger fan, which shows in some of her work.

Anyway, the original script supposedly just described Chrysalis as "a tall, lanky unicorn with a crooked horn" and left it to the art staff to work it out from there.

A lot of the character designs on the show are cute, but not many are beautiful. Celestia and Luna are beautiful. Chrysalis is beautiful, even with her ratty-looking mane and tail and the holes in her limbs and wings. And really that's about it.

Kathleen Barr's voice acting for Queen Chrysalis drips sex appeal, too. That's part of it for me. She voices Trixie also.
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>>30822530
>MEANWHILE, AT THE HALL OF JUSTICE
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>>30829284
I umm... No?

>>30828966
Oh yes. I'll put it all on the line for you guys.
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>>30829446
Rebecca Dart designed her, and I agree that she really does look beautiful.

I mention her episode reveal because I was watching it on stream with everyone else back in 2012, when the board was still young. At first everyone was skeptical because the episode premise was just a ripoff of the UK's recent royal wedding, and they essentially invented Cadance and Shining out of nowhere for it.

By the time the end of part one was over everyone was freaking about about evil Cadance. Then out of fucking nowhere, with no spoilers at all, comes this sexy bug villain and her army of minions, a bunch of fight scenes, and one of the best songs on the show. It was hands down the most fun FiM stream I've watched, and probably the most positive that /mlp/ has ever been after an episode.
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>>30760800
She should totally become a Mothpony.
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>>30829446
>>30830573
I really wish she'd get more screentime, but I love her even more for sticking with her convictions.
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>>30830506
>I umm... No?
ah. I asked because the tone was getting pretty Lovecraftian there.
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>>30830827
I can't tell if this is a DBZ reference or not, but I now autistically ship her with Cell.
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>>30831854
it's a reference to aliens
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>>30831281
Yeah I had to look it up because at the time I had no idea what you were talking about and was genuinely confused.
Is that a good thing?
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>>30831281
I thought the same thing. Tone, and also use of language.
This line in particular:
>Throughout the cavern changelings numbering in the hundreds toiled by torchlight under watchful gaze of of beasts not unlike the one that carried me.
Looked to me like a very clear homage, it even has that "toiled by torchlight" alliteration that Lovecraft was so fond of.

>>30832149
Lovecraft's poetic style is heavy on the reader. If you're not imitating it intentionally, you shouldn't worry either way.
Except maybe note it as a very minor criticism, "your language could be easier to follow if you're writing a fanfic rather than poetry", I guess.
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>>30831854
>Being such an absolute fucking pleb you haven't seen the first Alien movie
Please tell me this is bait
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>>30828720
neat
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>>30834105
>miniature wargame nerd Chrysalis

See, this kind of thing causes me to have this headcanon about Bugbutt being secretly a lovable clumsy nerd girl who's just pretending to be a fierce supervillainess.

Yes, I know, in canon, she's irredeemably evil. I know. I know, she's supposed to be completely unsympathetic. I know. I know my headcanon isn't rational, and would not work out well for me if I ended up in Pastel Magic Tiny Horse Land and tried to woo her. I'd end up decapitated or worse.

Still. Nerd Chrysalis a qt.
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>>30834350
I dunno about clumsy nerd girls, but her main traits are roleplaying/impersonating others and scheming about controlling the world. Chrysalis would make an excellent DM, and if the show wasn't just for little girls I could easily imagine an episode where she confesses her love of Ogres and Oubliettes or some other tabletop game.
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>>30834493
Wouldn't you eat Spagooteroos(tm) with Best Bug?
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>>30834493
Hasbro needs to cross sell this shit with their d&d merch
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I don't think I'll have a post ready tonight. This next scene is much more involved. But this will hopefully mean that I will have more than three posts ready next time.
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Holy crap, /bug/ is back!
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>>30835869
Yeah, and already more than halfway through the bump limit.
Jesus! Back with a vengeance.
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>tfw you will never operate with bugbutt
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>>30836303
>that bayo
Holly shit, every time I see it I can only thing how horrible it would be to be shanked in the guts with it. Pretty useless for anything else. Looking cool and vicious tho.
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>>30836878
You can't even fix it on the gun
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Yo bugfags. You KNOW this >>30763111
is Chrysilis after she gives up her love magic. She shrinks because she had so little love magic, much like how thorax grew.

Just be prepared. Some of you are alright chaps, and we don't want to lose you.
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>>30837090
Pls no, just let her be killed off or something. I wonder if the shows staff even realizes how universally hated the nuchangelings are, it's just about the only thing I've seen the entire fandom agree on.

At the very least they need to realize that dark doesn't mean evil
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>>30834493
>that last panel
>and encounter a trap
>unf
my fucking sides
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>>30837090
Pretty sure that's just another side character they're gonna shoehorn in for season 8, like that Yak up there. But either way, what's happening to the changelings is the most profoundly stupid thing, it's like the people in charge want to completely rewrite an entire race just for the sake of a few bad episode plots.
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>>30837090
So does this mean chrysalis is going to become the new glim? Spending an each episode in ponyville learning about friendship?
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>>30837614
that case scenario doesn't need to happen
Glimmer is just there because her VA had wanted to get a main character role since FiM started

Kathleen Barr seems to be fine with her minor roles
the redemption chance feels there but I don't see repeating it with Chrysalis....unlike this week's episode
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>>30837113
>it's just about the only thing I've seen the entire fandom agree on.
That's probably because you're so stuck inside your pink little bubble. Or are you talking about the changeling "sub-fandom" exclusively?

The MLP fandom as a whole is overall positive to very positive when it comes to the new changelings, with the only real complaints being "Thorax himself is a bit too much" and "the transformation was bullshit HOW it happened, not THAT it happened".
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>>30837763
I personally don't like that the transformation happened because of the lesson they missed. It's easy to forgive and forget when your enemy has completely changed their appearance but it takes work to accept that they've changed on the inside while remaining the same on the outside. There could have been an entire arch involving the struggle for ponies to accept the reformed changelings.
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>>30837824
>>30837763
Also, butt-wing. Seriously?
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>>30837836
srsly
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>>30837824
Well, they already have Discord, Starlight and Trixie for that narrative, I really don't see why they'd need the changelings to push that arc a fourth time.
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>>30837935
Those three were all reformed without being physically transformed. The point is that the changelings look physically scary and dangerous. Having the changelings be accepted by ponies despite their physical appearance is a far more valuable lesson that has yet to be done in this series. It'd be a lot more powerful than what we got, which was "changing your ways on the inside leads to dramatic and instant changes on the outside as well."
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>>30837983
They might be able to recover that lesson and even build on it with the suggestion of these renegade changelings. They can show that sometimes it's hard to change for the better and success isn't always so finite.
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>>30838016
I suppose they already showed that lesson with Discord in the season 4 finale.
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>>30837935
>Those three were all reformed without being physically transformed.
That is exactly the point of this discussion, as seen immediately in >>30837824
>it takes work to accept that they've changed on the inside while remaining the same on the outside.
Is a narrative that's already being pushed by these three characters, who all changed on the inside but not the outside.

If you want to change topic, don't try to do so retroactively.
"Scary" and "dangerous" are highly, HIGHLY subjective, (fuck, just look at how many people consider changelings to be "sexy" or "cool" in this thread alone), whereas an appearance can be immediately linked to a character. A face can be linked to past deeds.

>Having the changelings be accepted by ponies despite their physical appearance is a far more valuable lesson that has yet to be done in this series.
You're joking, right? We've had this exact episode twice. Luna Eclipsed and Bridle Gossip. Bridle Gossip even goes as far as to explicitly state, when formalizing it's lesson as part of Twilight's letter, "don't judge a book by it's cover".
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>>30838159
For >>30837983
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>>30838159
Even if these lessons have been covered it would still probably make for a better story than just promoting new toys.
Either way I hope we end up with at least some of the familiar black changelings remaining.
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>>30838269
What new toys? What on earth are you on about?
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>>30838392
Hasbro just wanted to establish something (like Twilight's castle) to make a new toy they could sell. Though I am a bit surprised that we haven't seen them yet.
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>>30838486
Those are some pretty outlandish claims you're making. Please cite your sources and provide some evidence.
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>>30838504
Defensive much?
That's simply what what it appears to be in my eyes. If I'm proven wrong in the long run I'll gladly admit that I was wrong.
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>>30838514
No.
I'm on the offense here.

If you're pulling shit out of your ass and try to pass it off as fact, people WILL call you out on it.
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>>30838522
Whatever you say. I'm not getting into a squabble over semantics and whatever you're reading into.
If you want facts here they are: I don't care for the change and I believe they could have gotten much more out of the story by not changing their appearance. And I'm not the only one who thinks so.
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>>30838560
Semantics or reading into things isn't part of the discussion. Don't try to shift the focus.
See >>30838269
>Even if these lessons have been covered it would still probably make for a better story than just promoting new toys.
>just promoting new toys
What new toys?
Are there no new changeling toys?
Do you not know about any new changeling toys?

I don't care about your opinion, your feels or your beliefs. This isn't tumblr.
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>>30838627
Not fighting with you. If you didn't fly off the deep end about it you might have been able to convince me to see your side. You can assume you won something if it makes you feel good but this is my final post on the matter.
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>tfw you realize that bugbutt becoming a skittle is an inevitability at this point (let's be honest, she's gonna be to Starlight what Starlight was to Twilight)
>tfw this genuinely upsets you because from the day it happens no one will make black Chrysalis content anymore and you'll have to specify your waifu is pre-reformation Chrysalis, basically killing your waifu in a way even a canon death couldn't
Wake me up inside
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>>30839176
You don't deserve to have a waifu if you couldn't accept her in any way, shape or form.
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>>30839194
No, you don't deserve a waifu if you don't look her in her tarnished eyes and say "this isn't you."
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>>30839194
It's one thing if your waifu had some wings slapped on and given a new job, but to be so utterly changed that she is completely different in mind, body, and spirit that she has no resemblance to her old self, then she is no longer your waifu.
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>>30839403
Wouldn't reformed Chrysalis just be Reversalis anyway?
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>>30839575
Nah, her colour scheme would look a thousand times worse.
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>>30839403
So what you're saying is you "waifu" certain shallow traits she has, rather than actually waifu her for who she is, come hell or high water
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>>30839620
>Every single aspect of the character other than the name
>shallow traits
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>>30839176
how do we stop this
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>>30839575
>"Sir we have this fun if silly design we can base the reformed changelings on."
>"Nah lets just throw a bunch of paint, sequins and thin bits of fabric at the wall and see what sticks, kids wont care."
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>>30841260
>mfw this is how they actually think
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>>30838627
>>30838790
You guys made that a lot harder than it had to be.

Anon's saying that the nuChangling design is universally (As far as he has seen) considered shit, and that the only reason for such a shit design would be to sell easily produced toys, and remarked that it was odd we havent seen any yet.
He's guessing, a reasonable guess considering hasbro has mandated things like this in the past, but a guess nonethless.
Personally speaking, i'm guessing there's going to be a changeling toy line with interchangable parts, i really dont understand how a competent animator greenlit those objectively terrible colour choices otherwise, it's basic colour theory.
To say nothing of the strange chest tumors and butt wings.

I wish they'd done a more subtle transformation, they already made thorax visually distinct just by changing his wings, they could have changed him further and given that trait to the rest of the changelings in the finale or something.
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>>30841239
We don't, Hasbro is gonna demand it even if the shows staff didn't want to go along with it.
Also, there's a good chance they'll start calling her "Princess Chrysalis" after her reformation.
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>>30841464
>>30837090
>She shrinks and changes.
>"Looks like i'm not a queen anymore..."
"Well, what about Princess?"
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/cyoa/ asked a "What is love?" and a bug answered.

Love isn't something you fall in, that's infatuation or lust. Both can taste amazing, like any single plate of a twelve course meal served by a five star chef, but no matter how rich, exotic or exhilarating the experience is, it's only one small plate.

Love is strange, it can be found all over the city, sometimes right where you'd expect it, sometimes in the strangest out the way or rundown places.

Sometimes it's not right where it should be, even though all the signs are there. It can be like waiting all night just to eat in the big flashy new restraunt in town and finding out that even though it's full of smilling trendy patrons in their best clothes, the food is awful, or your order never got taken taken to the chef. Other times can be like sitting down to for a big family meal only to be served a microwave dinner.

There are also times when love can be found where it should be, but it's been stretched too thin by circumstances to be sustainable, or too mixed up with other emotions to be edible. New chefs who try their best but don't know what their doing, a restaurant uniquiped to keep up with orders, or a waitstaff driven away by the chaos for a few examples.

Love is something that you can be lucky enough to stumble across, or be handed to at birth, but it's still something you won't find in the same place twice unless everyone involved has it in them to make it stay.

Love is something that needs to be worked at, it's something to strive for and maintain. If it's taken care of equally, and the circumstances are just right, it can become something incredibly powerful, something that can feed you for life and even teach you to feed others. If not, it can be poisonous, and leave you always hungry again. Starving, hungrier than you ever knew was possible
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>>30841349
The colors were an attempt at iridescent bug coloring. the downfall of that is that unless you're going to put the time into animating shifting colors that just won't translate and you end up with a pallette of eyesore colors.
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Sorry guys. I didn't get a chance to write today. I probably won't get enough free time until the weekend.
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>>30841727
>/cyoa/ asked a "What is love?" and a bug said "Don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more."
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>>30836909
what
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>>30841727

>What is love?!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I
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>>30842077
There's no way to mount the bayonet on the end of the gun with that muzzle break, and if you could the blade is too high and would get hit by the bullet if you could.
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>>30841464
This.
They're gonna want to sell consumer products of her new form, just like they did with Twicorn.
Hopefully, they'll design one that's actually worth buying merch of.
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>>30842125
If that's an AK74 type front sight base, and it looks like it is, it's got a bayonet lug on the bottom, just like the one an AKM has on the bottom of the gas block.

>24mm Bulgy Birdcage

sexy as fuck
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>>30842125
"You see, Ivan, when mount bayonet like this,
each boolet split in two and you are of shooting
each target two time."
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Don't mind me, just a changeling.
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>>30842390
The bayonet lug isn't the issue here
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>>30841727
I like the idea of changelings being experts on love and how to get it. They have been eating it their whole lives, it'd make sense they know plenty about it.
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>>30843151
>Triggered
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>>30753655
Bug is for snug.

I'll try to write something snuggly and somewhat creepy.

That is after I get out of hospital.
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>>30843177
Oh, silly Anon. The ring on the bayonet goes at the front of that flash suppressor, because the bayonet lug is on the bottom of the front sight base, rather than on the bottom of the gas block.

Now, whether the path of the bullet clears that portion of the blade, I don't know. But I have no doubt that the bayonet itself would lock in place.

An MP40 style stock is the wrong choice for a rifle that will mount a bayonet anyway. It's got one buttstroke in it, after which it's never going to fold or unfold properly again, and Conscript Ivanov is going to have to turn his rifle in to the armorer and ask for a replacement.
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>>30843177
>>30844675

But Sergei, when Ivan shoots his rifle bullet also fires bayonet!
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>>30841464
>>30841525
I doubt that, since we're getting a good aligned queen in the movie
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>>30844818
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so I drew a picture the other day, it's not done yet cause I cannot gradient the eyes properly. however, i wanted to post it here so the fellow /bug/ people can help me improve on it and maybe do the eyes for me cause I cannot do it.
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>>30845313
that changeling looks a lot like GIR
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Would it be possible to fuck Chrysalis so hard she popped like a balloon? Would you want to?
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>>30845535
>not wanting to make sweet gentle worshipful love to the beautiful supervillainess
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>>30845549
This.


Green in a few hours.
Hopefully you people will like it.
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>>30845549
>becoming her slave
>not wanting to be an alpha secret agent sent to eliminate her
>>30845571
Probably will. Might write my own too.
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>>30845571
Greentext you say.

Luv for the Luv Bug
by Anonymous at https://pastebin.com/QDhDf16Z
Royalty in exile don't always have it easy.
Tags: Queen Chrysalis, black humor, interspecies relations, ponies on dope, clop

in b4 "wew lad"
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>>30845603
>interspecies relations
Does this imply AiE shit, or? I'm up for the rest.
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>>30845612
It involves a human fucking best bug waifu's brains out, yes.
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>>30845571
Green as promised.

Your name is Non Annonymous, and you managed what others only dream of, you managed to get to Equestria.
It’s just like the show, except somewhere between season two and three.
And you are just as much of a socially awkward cynical asshole that you always were.
But at least you got to keep your profession.
Before whatever the fuck happened that threw you into Equestrian, you were somewhat of a respected nurse, working at the emergency department.
And fingers being more agile than hooves, you were quickly forcefully assigned to a small hospital in what you reckon is Ponyville.
On the equine equivalent of what you presume is surgery.
That was some four weeks ago.
And since you need to pull your mind off of things, the work is much welcome.
You look on the clock on the wall, and tiredly yawn.
Four in the afternoon, and your twelve hour long shift ends in two hours.
The whole day is filled with bellyaches and broken bones.
A few fillies come with a few bruises.
You give them a lollipop and tell them to shoo.
A mare in a wheelchair is driven in by a blue maned unicorn through the double doors just as the fillies leave.
She has a metal shard in her hind leg, haphazardly covered in bloodied rags.
The unicorn holds a sheet of papers in her mouth, and you take it into your hands, kneeling as you do so.
The unicorn starts speaking.
“Her name’s Esther Didonis. Supposedly work accident, metal shard embedded two centimetres deep, femoral bone and ligaments supposedly untouched. Analgesics unapplied, patient reports moderate pain
You nod.
A unicorn, greyed by age, with a white scruffy beard comes into the hallway and sighs.
“Annonymous, you’re going to assist me.”
You nod and drive the wheelchair into the examining room with a few trays filled with sterile equipment and a surgical table.
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>>30846428
With some effort from your already strained and tired muscles, you move the mare as gently as possible on the cold, paper covered surface.
She tenses up slightly.
“Three millilitres of Novocaine, intramuscular, and sterile gloves for you.”
You nod and rush off to fetch the injections.
For a moment you internally praise the fact that all drugs and solutions widely used in your practice before your arrival to Equestrian share their names with the ones here.
Except for some pills and things the unicorns use, but that’s none of your business.
You like cutting into things.
You return with the neatly packed rubber gloves fitting hooves, not fingers, sadly, and a pair of the injections.
For a moment you notice the mare staring at you
The unicorn behind your back lights up his horn and one of the syringes lifts up in a silvery haze.
The plastic cap on the sterile clean needle gets discarded with quickness and precision, and with the same speed and precision, it stabs itself into the space around the metal shard.
The mare winces slightly and as the piston of the syringe gently slides down under the guidance of the unicorn’s silvery magical mist, the mare relaxes.
You stand there, holding the sterile surgical gloves for the unicorn doctor.
He comes close to the shard and his face glooms.
You ask with interest, while ready to run and fetch anything: “What is it, sir?”
“That metal shard is covered in runes. I can’t touch it with my magic or we could risk an explosion.”
“But we can’t leave shard in the hoof, what about the bleeding?”
“It’s nothing but a big splinter with magical inscriptions. You can’t cast magic and so you’ll have to pull it out.”
“Me?” You repeat and point to your chest.
“I’ll guide you, just follow my lead.”
You nod and take a deep breath in and out.
Just like back in the hospital.
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>>30846436
Not the worst thing you had to pull out of someone.
You wash your hands and kneel in front of the surgical table.
“Now, we need to go really gently here. There is a big arteries close by and we can’t see inside the leg.”
Right, no X-Ray machines in this backwater hell.
You nod.
“Slowly begin pulling the shard out, keep the angle of entry in mind.”
You begin gently pulling the shard out of the hoof, the runes now visible much more thanks to being covered in blood.
Almost there.
You continue, more of the shard revealed, the entire piece of the metal covered in letters and scribbles deeply engraved onto the smooth grey surface.
“Ow.” You slightly flinch.
You cut one of your unprotected fingers on the shard.
The shard is getting warmer and warmer, it even looks like it is glowing.
“Quick! Pull it out and throw it out of the window!”
“But what about the-“
“Just Bucking pull it!”
You rip the fragment out of the leg and throw it through the closed glass window, shattering it.
It barely gets outside when you’re swept back by a gust of wind.
Just as is anything light enough, papers, more glass and some lighter surgical tools.
The mare on the table proving light enough too.
She flies off the table and hits you into the stomach, sending you on the ground.
You quickly curl up around the patient.
Not even a second later, the chaos passes.
You get up and see the examining room in chaos, and the mare in your lap.
The doctor is covering on the ground.
Everyone is fine.
You shake and shiver.
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>>30846442
“I-U-h...“ You studded, and put the mare back on the table.
The wound looks small enough for just a bandage, and not stitches.
The doctor gets up, pale as ever. His jaw is moving and he is shivering.
You slap yourself on the face a couple times and shake the glass shards from the window off of your uniform.
You find a bandage and quickly tie the wound from the removed fragment of rune covered metal.
You take a deep breath and lean against the wall.
The mare is visibly shaken, but fine.
The doctor, is in a similar state, and from the looks of things, the room took the biggest blow.
You take a few deep breaths.
“I-Uh, Quick thinking Non.”
“Thanks.” You reply simply, and unbutton the top two buttons from your shirt which feels so tight. “The patient is fine.” You end your sentence with a deep breath rather than a comma.
“Take a shower and go home. I-I’ll get the magicians and the security.”
You nod and begin to walk out of the room.
When you’re in the doorframe, the mare on the operating table gets dragged along by an invisible force.
The doctor runs under her and she falls on his back.
You continue walking and when you’re almost at the exit, you turn around and see the doctor and the mare dragged behind you.
“Non! Stop! The, the thing in the hoof must’ve done something. Take the mare with you and I’ll send a team of unicorns pronto. Sweet celestia, just get out of here before anything else explodes.”
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>>30846448
The doctor floats you the mare with his magic and quickly runs away into the building.
You and the mare stare at each other.
“I’m going home, I need to sleep.”
“B-But we can’t move away from each other.”
“Then you go with me.” You huff.
You just had enough of about everything.
You thought your arrival in Equestria and seeing talking horses, or the constant looks from ponies are the worst.
But you didn’t tangle with magic yet, and you don’t want to after today.
You want to go to bed and sleep.
And just sleep this accident off like you did with many more in the past.
You walk.
Slow and tired.
Thankfully, you managed to buy a house right across the hospital.
So it’s a very short walk.
You unlock the door and put the mare on the ground.
She takes place on your couch.
And you leave the room, to go to the kitchen over the wall.
You need a drink.
Let’s see here…
No beer.
No brandy.
Just. Cider.
Another downside to living in Equestria.
The drinks suck.
“Uh, do you want anything?” You call out to your forced guest.
“Water please!”
You take two glasses full of water and walk into the living room.
When in the doorframe, you see a green flash on the corner of your vision.
A mass of black something lands on your chest and knocks you over.
Argh, fuck.
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>>30846456
And das it at the cliffhanger, wanted to write more, but I still have work to do.
Feedback appreciated, link to GDoc.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S9prhEi9NfDH7EYFBJM4ipsX1gkxmnViPTjLAzPqrdI/edit?usp=sharing
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>>30845535
Please don't pop the bug.
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>>30846605
>Please don't pop the bug.
Don't bop the bug.
Can't stop the bug.
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>>30846465
Nice, I'm liking it so far. Looking forward to more.
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Reminder not to be cruel to Best Bug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opVy65eJsNk

Also, whose parties are better? Pinkie's or Best Bug's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVRfsj331r4

Also, always save room for cookies.
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>>30848973
I wonder if cheeselegs would be any good at baking
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>>30850921
She would be excellent, because she cooks with love!
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>>30851199
i dont get this pic
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>>30851209
Neither do I, and I posted it...
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>>30846465

Your worldbuilding is seriously lacking.
When you're not blatantly wrong you often take the laziest, most uncreative way out. I highly recommend rewatching the show sometime to get a better feel for the tone and setting.
Examples where you're outright wrong include hands being more dextrous than hooves, or that Ponyville doesn't have an x-ray machine.
But lack of care is a problem that runs through pretty much the whole thing.
>Why is Anon in Equestria?
Whateverthefuck happened, just handwave it.
>How come you're even accepted?
You're a Snowflake. Your Unique talents makes you better at anyone else, easily negating your other supposed character flaws.
>But what about the cross-species infection risk? Should you really be working with open wounds, especially near weak individuals who for example have lost a lot of blood?
Nah. Don't care about it.
>And what about drugs? Anatomy? Surely your Unique Snowflake talents can help you there?
Nah it's the same. Nevermind the fact pony writing is nowhere near English. They use the same name for drugs because I say so.

And a dozen very, very suspect details. Ponies often rely on potions and elixirs, why do they suddenly have the same medicine as us? There are quite a few enchanted objects in the show, but can you name a single one that has any type of rune on it?

Using Anon as a copout in itself is bad enough for immersion, but I think you're so far off you never even manage to build a suspension of disbelief. The place you're describing can't be Equestria.
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>>30851524
>Whateverthefuck happened, just handwave it.

Not OP. But to be entirely fair, that IS a traditional feature of AiE stories. Part of the convention is that we don't really care how or why he got to Tiny Pastel Horse Land, just that he's there and is doing stuff.

I think the story's okay by greentext standards but I don't hold greentext stories on 4chan to the same standards as literature elsewhere, even on FIMfiction or the Pit of Voles.
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>>30851597
I wanted to have content in the first chapter, then exposition.
I don't like spoonfeeding my audience and the world building is something I really plan on climbing up.
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>>30851753
As a sidenote, I'm not a native English speaker.
Google Docs comments are enabled.
Though I try to correct my typos, I'm no way near perfect, and my sentences are clunky as hell, and I can't really see it.
Also, I'll make sure to fix the issues mentioned, and improve upon the feedback on the next delivery.

Thanks a lot!
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>>30845535
Nah, she would leak prior to popping.
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>>30753655
Stop bugging me
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Posting before today's episode digs the changelings into an even deeper hole than they are already.
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>>30858087
I really hope there is one rogue changeling who continues to use the old form just because he thinks new form looks bad.

>"I have no problem sharing love and not feeding on ponies, I just don't want to look stupid!"
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>>30845348
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>>30858122
I am severely hoping the episode is resolved with something like "I just dont want to look like a faggot."

But it's probably going to be "YOU SHOULD ACCEPT CHANGE" episode, most likely a thinly veiled message towards the audience.
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>>30858148
Remember when the staffed cared more about just writing good episodes than getting triggered about what the fandom thought about them?
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It's over guys.
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>>30859063
if anyone is going to commit sudoku,at least,stream it
consider Phraryx situation a reference if Chrysalis wasn't a full villain
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>>30859079
>His darker theme only proves almost LITERALLY everyone's point that the nulings colours are the problem, rather than the design.
F
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This is our future.

Just remove the deer horns because Chrysalis will not rule, she will be a lanky female changeling
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>>30859224
at least,put her flowers or something
make something decent for once
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>>30858129
>mfw invader zim is getting a new season
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>>30859224

>she will be a lanky female changeling

Yeah, I can already see all the porn of nu-chrysalis being the resource to please the lust of the new two rulers of the changelings or just an egg factory
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>>30859079
I still can't get over how ugly those gradients are.
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Welp, that was pretty bad. It's great to see the writers doubling down on the terrible new designs and bland, weak characterization of the traitor bugs.

Even better is how they fucked up the "sharing love" resolution EVEN MORE. According to the script, Pharynx and Thorax always loved each other as brothers, and Pharynx loved his home, but this of course doesn't count and didn't lead to their transformation. Somehow being accepted and finding your place can also lead to transformation for Pharynx, too. Also apparently "love" can be extracted from plants and stuff (???), which grew back after the nu-bugs start tidying up their destroyed hive.

This whole changeling reformation thing is a trainwreck, I don't know how anyone can remain a bugfag and still appreciate the show after this.
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>>30859539
suicide is always an option though
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>>30859539
I too love the Luv Bug.

I don't get the appeal of the new character design for the--well, let's call them Changedlings. Thorax looks like the unholy offspring of a moose and a rhinocerous beetle, with different parts of his body randomly dipped in different colors of day-glo fluorescent paint.

The character designs for this show are generally pretty damn good. Look at Sombra. Look at the Princesses. Look at Chrysalis herself. Now look at Thorax and the Changedlings. Maybe there's some arcane artistic theory at work here, maybe this is something they teach at Cal Arts now. Maybe the problem is me.
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>>30859576

>Maybe the problem is me.

Yeah, maybe everyone should change, accept the new design and forget the old one
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>>30859609
>>30859576
Or maybe,just maybe,the shows creators are huge fucking faggots
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>>30859539
>Even better is how they fucked up the "sharing love" resolution EVEN MORE.

Lets run through what triggers it.

>Having a lot of love at once doesnt.
>Being given love freely doesnt but may give you sparkly wings.
>Actually loving somepony or a nebulous thing like 'the hive' doesnt.
>Forcibly throwing the energy at chrysalis does.
>Feeling accepted does.

Magical mystery cure's spell that fucked with the cutie marks and ultimately made Twilight an Alicorn makes more sense than this, and for that the writers literally just made something up that sounded half-way decent on the spot.
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>>30859576
>Sombra
>Like pony generator: the OC
you are the reason why bug pony deserves their new form
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>>30859625
Well--there is a lot to like in the show's lore and worldbuilding (what little there is), but, though I love Chrysalis for her scenery-chewing swagger, and I love her character design, "we eat love" has always been word salad.

Help me out, explain to a brotha just how exactly this works. If someone else loves me, can Changelings suck that out of me? If so, does it make me feel not loved, or does it make another person, who's not even there and not even involved, stop loving me? Or do they have to pretend to be me? What if I don't know someone feels this way about me? What if a little kid loves his teddy bear? Can Chrysalis feed on that? Does it change the way the kid feels about the teddy bear? What if I love Chrysalis herself? Can Changelings love each other?

http://oglaf.com/withsympathy/ <-- illustrates how ridiculous the whole idea is

Now, if the writers had said, "the Changelings impersonate your loved ones in order to get close to you and get you to be vulnerable around them, and then they suck your magic out," well, in a world where magic is a real, tangible force, that wouldn't be COMPLETELY retarded. But no, it's "we eat your emotional state, nom nom nom."

I know. The writers wanted to come up with a kid-friendly threat that combined the legends of the vampire, the succubus, and the doppleganger. I know, Y7 rating. I know, they can't get all Brothers Grimm with it.

Still. I love Chrysalis's character design, I love how unrepentant she is, how she understands what she is and revels in it. And Kathleen Barr's voice acting for her is pure boner fuel. But the whole idea of the Changelings is pants on head retarded. They're not logical. Even in a world with smiling flying bugs that reproduce by burping another adult out of their own mouths, complete with tiny belch noise, and piles of dead wood that are magically animated in the shape of horse-sized wolves, the Changelings stand out as breaking immersion.
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Reminder that if your changeling is colorful that mean that she never love you and she is actually pretending
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AHAHAH
SALT
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>>30859792
Princess AJ thread had a huge talk about this once, i'll see how much i remember.

Friendship is magic, Sombra's episode proved that fear and/or hate is also magic and the explosion from the wedding climax is ultimately an example of said love magic.
So we can say emotions are magic.
The emotion in question is tied in some form to a ponies magic reserves, which can be depleted as shown by chrysalis and tirek,
The magic reserves themselves are not tied to a ponies life force, but will leave them feeling weaker if drained.
Given chrysalis' comment after defeating celestia, we can draw two possible conclusions.
>Greater love = Greater strength for the changeling.
>Greater love = More magic drained.
Same thing ultimately, but the latter means that the emotion of love is simply the vector through which changelings eat a ponies magic.
Given that magic is so prevalant in equestria, a predator that feeds on such would only make sense.
It doesnt solve everything, but it ties up a few wrinkles in their current lore like their anti-magic stone and such.
As for what it feels like to have your love drained, shining's love for cadence wasnt diminished in the slightest, he just felt tired, which only leads more credence to the idea they dont eat 'love', it's just the simplest explanation for what they do.
It also somewhat explained thorax's transformation a bit, since i doubt he suddenly felt any love for chrysalis when she was literally draining it out of him in a manner that looked quite painful.
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>>30859916
Forgot to add:

Naturally this episode throws the entire thing out the window, the transformation is pure act of god now and doesnt follow rhyme nor reason.
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>>30859792
I never thought it was too hard to understand. Love is something you feel inside you in relation to other people/things. A Changeling feeds on that love, converting it into sustenance and magical power, while leaving you feeling drained and depressed. Disguising as ponies helps the changelings to do this covertly. Chrysalis wasn't eating Thorax's love in the finale, so much as she was extracting the magical energy that he had accumulated from being given love willingly.

We can get into all the fan speculation about how different forms of love "taste" but the basic concept seems simple enough. Being drained of your love by a changeling is like being depressed, you feel emotionless and miserable but that doesn't mean you stop loving those around you, you just can't express it. If you want to talk about things that don't make sense, Chrysalis' mind control powers during the wedding episode were a little bizarre and never really fleshed out. But the basic concept is pretty coherent.
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>>30859916

The elements that make up friendship are all emotions, and in the Glimmer/Trixie episode where Glimmer was teaching Trix how to magic, it was basically established that doing magic right was entirely an emotional focus thing. Glimmer also wasn't able to do magic when she bottled up all her anger for Trixie.

Point is that in horseworld everything runs on emotion magic, and poners are magic batteries that generate ridiculous amounts of energy. It makes sense for there to be predators that feed on it. Changelings and Windigos are similar in that respect, except where Changelings focus on absorbing love, Windigoes absorb hatred.
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>>30859079
>"The hive looked better with holes."
And there goes the last of the old bugs. Now the only hole that exists is the void in my heart from all the old bugs being ded. At least we still have Chrysalis though, she will never change... Right?!RIGHT?!!?!?!
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>>30860024

nah

>>30859224
>>30859257
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>>30860024
Just headcanon that there's some changelings off-screen that are disguised as faggots to avoid getting lynched by their own kind and Pharynx was too proud / autistic to do the same, it's either that or accept the shows retarded logic.
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>last of the changelings

Wouldn't Chrysalis be able to just produce a new brood whenever she wants to? She's the queen of their species. If anything, the nulings are fucked since they shouldn't be able to reproduce, unless Thorax starts pissing eggs out of his dick for some reason.
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Any links to stores containing new-ling bashing?
I really could read some right now.
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>>30860074
This >>30822491
is good if you want sympathetic post-finale Chrysalis
Lost the link that that other story with the exploding nu-lings
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>>30859079
They are so cute
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>>30860069
Idk.. The writers might just never even mention the subject of reproduction..
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>>30860069
she'll be back
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>>30861460
I dont want her back.
I want her to never appear or even be mentioned.
I want everyone involved in making the show to forget she ever existed.
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>>30862032
>I want everyone involved in making the show to forget she ever existed

impossible
you would have go back to the past(2010-early 2011)to erase history and make sure nobody brings the idea of an evil queen.Basically,either you have to kill everybody or control writers brains.
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>>30860069
It sounds like they have a 1:1 sex ratio with the voices I've heard from the new episode. I think the new-ling designs are adorable.
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>>30862061
But where can I get that much TNT?
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>>30862464
you know the mediums for it

though at this point,I wouldn't even care honestly
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>>30862061
Her first appearance was in 2012
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Here's something that was posted in a different thread 2 weeks ago that I think /bug/ will like.

Original "prompt" is >pic related.

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"Hey Chrysalis, if I gave you all the love you'd ever need, would you stop trying to take over the world?"
>"HAH! I'd -love- to see you try, Anonymous."

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"Hey Chrysalis, how's that taking over the world going for you?"
>"It's hard when you're pregnant, you ass. I'll get to it eventually."

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"Taken over the world yet, Chryssy--"
>"Anon not now! Hand me that bowl-- and tell Charlie to stop hitting his sister!"

---

"So. Gonna take over the world any time soon?"
>"I'll think about it. Come on, get your coat on, we're already late for his graduation."

---

"Heh, remember when you used to go on about taking over the world?"
>"Hmhmm... vaguely. Did I ever tell you about my plan? I had the best idea..."

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"Morning, sweet. Gonna take over the world today?"
>"Oh shush. So what are we doing? Are we visiting Ember Hoof like we promised or..."

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>"...Easy, easy..."
"Sorry, it's hard to lift things when you get to my age!"
>"I'm far older than you, Anon, please be careful-- I'll get it, don't worry."

---

>"Anon? Are you alright?"
"Just... short of breath, hah, happens a lot these days..."
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>>30863082

---

>"..."
"Don't look so glum, we both knew this was going happen... eventually."
>"It doesn't make it any easier."
"Just... smile for me."
>...
"No, the old smile, with the fangs."
>"You said you hated that smile."
"C'mon, for old time's sake."
>"...Rrrrrr."
"There is it, hahh, remember when--"
>"Don't say it."
"...Remember when you said you'd take over the world some day?"
>"Of course."
"...Are you still going to?"
>"..."

---

>"My Queen, the hive has grown excited since your return! Shall we make preparations for war?"
"..."
>"My Queen?"
"...No."
>"No? But the hive--"
"That's not what he'd want. Now begone, I have to think."
>"You have changed, my Queen."

"Isn't that what our kind is supposed to do?"
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>>30863091
>
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>>30860024
Chrysalis only has two possible conclusions, death/eternal imprisonment or reformation. Considering how hard they've been pushing changelings all reforming the former doesn't seem like a very likely option.

At the very most it'll end with a finally fight between Chrysalis and Thorax, at the very least it'll end with Starlight telling her to cool her shit.
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I really want a Queen Chrysalis version of this.
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>>30863517
...so THAT is how she beat Celestia in the S6 ending episode.

>be inna palace in Canterlot
>Celestia is on throne
>or rather she was
>now she's not looking so good
>she's got a steamroller on top of her
>and on top of the steamroller is Queen Chrysalis, shouting "WRYYYYYY"
>do a 360 and moonwalk away
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>>30779574
>>30780863
>>30779274
It took 40 hours, but I finally managed to show that moth bitch who's boss! Although between the White Palace and the Radiance fight I must have died 100 times.... Pretty awesome game though!
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>>30863804
Hives blood makes white palace a breeze, anytime you die just hang out for ten seconds and you're back to full health.

Radiance is a complete fucking piece of shit though, pretty much had to completely overhaul my character (basically melee only, mark of the pack + quickslash + steady body) to a mage build with a huge non-recharging health bar and just spam the shit out of abyss shriek. Hell, a lot of the end game bosses felt more like just pure DPS races considering you basically never got the chance to heal because of constantly spawning trash mobs.
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>>30863837
>Hives blood
Good idea, I probably should have done that...

>>30863837
>never got the chance to heal
That's why I went with Quick Slash + Joni's Blessing + Glowing Womb.
I didn't cast any spells, instead I used my soul to just kept spawning minions while playing extremely defensively, not going out of my way to do damage unless I was in the clear. If my minions were guaranteed a hit every few seconds I could devote more time to avoiding attacks.
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I don't know why you're wasting posting space on bug episodes anymore. You'll never be satisfied with the new bugs even if they were handled properly. Stop watching the show.
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>>30862684
>she was only four years old when the new writers started raping her up the character
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>>30837113
You see, I like it when they have a black color scheme. They look less "evil," but at least they don't look like faggots.
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>>30863917
That works too

Also, get hyped, a dlc where you can play as Hornet is coming out eventually, apparently the devs are already working on her moveset.
All aboard the lore train.
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>>30863804
White Palace is fucking easy if you equip Hiveblood.
You get hit by a trap, respawn, wait for hiveblood to restore your last hit, try again.
With this method it's almost impossible to die in the White Palace.
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Jesus! There's already less than 100 bumps left in this thread.
Way to make a comeback /bug/!
Wish Steven Universe would do the same.
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>>30860231
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>>30828353
Called it.

Hey, look at those dollies! He's playing with a green moose and a purple dragon. Hmm... I wonder what that's all about.
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What is your favorite Chrysalis ship?
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>>30863091
it's perfect.
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>>30865838
Cadence or Celestia is an obvious choice, but I always liked Chrysalis + Luna as a crack ship since the two didn't fight during the wedding episode.

I imagine they get together weekday nights and play board games.
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>>30865838
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>>30866470
kanishiipanda was so promising before he whored himself out to make nothing but crummy porn animations and comics.
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>>30865838
Bad Hallmark movies.
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>>30859539
The transformation legit made me nauseous
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>>30867739
I thought Pharynx still looked pretty cool after his transformation. Still kinda dark and edgy. But why do him and Thorax get bigger forms than all the other Changelings?
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>>30868348
He must be a prince or some shit...
The horns seem to signify some kind of leadership position.
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>>30868348
Nepotism and Hasbro, respectively.
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Out with the new bugs
In with the old bugs
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>>30868348
I mean as far as the nubugs go he looks ok but it's still a huge loss :(
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>>30868348
Get rid of the gradient on his neck and the neck beds, then reduce the size of the tail wing thing so it looks more like his actual wings are just partially sticking out of his shell.

Boom, you've actually managed to make Pharynx a decent design.
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anyone else disappointed that in triple threat thorax said there were rouge changelings that didn't go through with the change just for them to say in to change a changeling that all but thorax's brother had converted to his leadership.

I liked the idea of two sets of changelings, one pro-thorax, one anti-thorax but no..that would be too interesting for a kids show.
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>>30870055
There's still the possibility that several changelings are still aligned with Chrysalis and are just infiltrating Thorax's hive while Chrysalis tries to regrow hers and get ready for war.
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>>30870080
or wait for the one apparent flaw in throax's have to kick in
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>>30870924
Do people honestly believe that little girls wouldn't find these things cute?
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>>30870976
To be fair little girls do have ungodly shit taste, the reason Luna appeared so little in the show is because her toys didn't sell well because "too dark"

They cannot see the cuteness of buggo's
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>>30753655

Why is Chryssie the best mom?
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>>30871029
>because her toys didn't sell well because "too dark"
But they made her even darker in S2.
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>>30753655
Meanwhile, the few remaining loyalist changelings tell stories of the day Thorax betrayed the Queen.
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>>30871053
And if I remember correctly her toys barely sold at all after that too
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>>30871029
>They cannot see the cuteness of buggo's
Those poor, poor fools...
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>>30871029

>Chryssie toys didn't sell
>Luna toys didn't sell
I am sorrowful. I am glad I am already drunk, so I do not have to go to the basement of shame and pour myself another triple shot.
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Friendly reminder that the writers will never do anything interesting or clever with Chrysalis.
There will be no other hives and queens
Chrysalis isn't building a new hive herself
She doesn't have any loyalists just hiding in Thorax's hive
She isn't going to start impersonating a major figure and building an army of unwitting ponies
She will never impersonate Thorax and take back her hive that way

She's just gonna show up one day with a half baked "Imma use magic to beat Starlight Glimmer" and fail miserably, only for Glimmer to forgive her and reform her.
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>>30871100

No thank you. Put her in Equestria Girls instead. She's safe from Glimmer there.
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>>30871097
Friendly reminder that Chrysalis only has one official toy and it looks like this
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>>30871144
Nope
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>>30871144
But that's wrong. She has four counting that one. The Guardians of Harmony statue, the GoH Action figure, and the funko mini.
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Chryssie is cute.
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>>30871177
Who's the best Mom in Equestria? Twilight Velvet, Derpy Hooves, or Queen Chrysalis?
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>>30871192

Probably Derpy.

Velvet didn't do anything to stop Twilight from becoming an anxiety ridden mess.
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>>30871155
....Beware the Wheelers.

Man, fuck you for reminding me those things.
Aaand now I'm thinking about Chrysalis in OZ.
She fit right in come to think of it because OZ is a fucked up place. It could work.
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>>30871100
No way Anon! You have to give the writers a little bit of credit every once and awhile! Surely they will do something interesting with Chrysalis at the season finale! Right?
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>>30871209
>You have to give the writers a little bit of credit
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>>30871208
Fuck you Anon! Now I'm thinking about that movie! And now I'm never going to look at that picture the same way!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM0RFE3QGAU
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>>30871241
The movie didn't do them justice, anon.
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>>30871208
>Aaand now I'm thinking about Chrysalis in OZ.

I don't think she'd like Ozstralya. Even she'd be afraid of the funnelweb spiders and the brown snakes.

Also, I hear she likes wine instead of beer, and in Ozstralya they say wine's fa pooftahs.
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>>30871388
>Even she'd be afraid of the funnelweb spiders and the brown snakes.
>Not worried about the Deadly Dessert that kills people by turning them into sand.

Fucking desserts man,

,>I hear she likes wine instead of beer
Well I'm sure the Lunch Pal tree as a alcoholic section.
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>>30871497
A dessert that turns people into sand? How many calories does it have? Jesus!

also,

>drop bears
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Is this Chrysalis thread now?
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>>30871990
Man these designs are actually growing on me
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>>30871990
This is your one-stop shop for all things bug-related.

>>30871997
something something dermatologist
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>>30871997
How? They look absolutely fucking awful, do you have colourblindness?
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>>30871156
What about that weird goth set? I thought that was somewhat official.
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>>30871156
she also had a Toys r us exclusive toy that was a re paint of the electronic Celestia with a evil voice chip. she made asking you to brush her sound sinister. she also had a blind bag scale toy in the 3-packs.
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>>30871029
I mean, maybe little girls don't like her, but I imagine she's caught on a ton with teenagers and the like
Changeling OCs are still popular these days
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>>30872984

>raise dozens of kids
>they betray you because you're black
Fate is cruel.
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>>30873411
I half expect the writers to retcon changelings so that they have defined genders and can reproduce like ponies do.
Because the alternative, that they are all Chrysalis' children but betrayed her at the drop of a hat, destroying their entire society in the process, is almost too cruel for a children's show.
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>>30873469
The writers have never been very big on thinking through the implications of whatever Genius Plot Tweest they pull out of their asses. Never.

Remember also that the show is written for an audience of eight-year-old girls. Most of them aren't going to subject it to any kind of deep analysis.
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>>30873469

Punished Chrysalis
A Fallen Mother
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>>30844245
These are unsafe levels of cuteness, and I haven't even watched the show.
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>>30873509
People are going to jeer and call you a "fan of the fandom," you know.

If you're a fan of the Luv Bug you will probably enjoy her first appearance on the show. The voice acting for her is outstanding, and she even gets a villain song, if you like that kind of thing.
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>>30873535

I'm not that guy, but I love me some villain songs when they're done right.

Fucking one or two minutes of fucking singing can bring more soul to a character than all the effort in the world to characterize them through other means.
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>>30873541
I've never been a musical fan, and I always found the musical numbers in the show to be a bit off-putting. They break immersion for me, no matter how well they are done. I do appreciate the effort that goes into them--writing snappy dialogue is one thing, but even writing good jokes is very difficult compared to writing song lyrics that have to rhyme, have to have proper meter, and have to make sense in the context of the scene--this even before music is composed for them.

I understand that it's difficult and complex and vast artistic effort goes into that specific form of art. I'm just colorblind to it, I guess. All musicals do this to me, even the 1950-60ss Elvis musicals, where plots were just an excuse to string together scenes where he could pick up a guitar and start singing on camera.
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>>30873541
Totally agree. The evil portion of this day aria from canterlot wedding was top-notch
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>>30873573

I actually hate musicals, despite liking villain songs.
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>>30873535
That's not something I'm particularly concerned of.

Good to know. One of my friends has said I'd like Discord several times. Villain songs can be rather fun to hear for me too when they're done well.
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>>30872872
>Changeling OC looks like less of an OC than fucking Pharynx
Well, that's a shock
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>>30871064
IT'S
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>>30874397

It was only a short. She's not legitimately in there.
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>>30875260
Keep telling yourself that
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>>30864834
not a bad revivial
bump limit

I guess the rest for a couple of weeks served its purpose
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>>30875307
Having two more episodes parading about the new mutant bugs brought a lot of life to the thread.
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>>30875322
Was it the life we wanted, though?
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So are we going strait into a new thread, or another hiatus?
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>>30875602
New thread. I wanna write about loyalist changelings making their last stand against faggotry.
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Sorry I wasn't able to add anything this time around. I've been heavily distracted by life, and other projects, and games, and general procrastination.
But I'm not dead!
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Time to post bugs 'till we fall off the board
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>>30871144
sure about that?
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>>30859539
I was hoping for something akin to "Not everyone has to change", especially with the whole "We HAVE to transform him" Schtick that the characters kept saying. Like goddamn, not everyone has to change.

Nu-Changelings wouldn't bug me so much if it wasn't for the fact that all changelings seemingly are okay with transforming completely rather than physically stay the same. Pretty much eradicating a sub-species for the sake of adapting to another race. I much would've preferred them going the route of ponies and changelings learning to live as a symbiotic species rather than parasites. I'm pretty sure most of the blame is on Hasbro whom likely wanted more toys to sell than the writers themselves.
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last time i was on /bug/ it just died, but since the new episode came out ive been watching this shit like a hawk
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>>30876289
The fact that there aren't any nu-bug toys worries me. My deepest fear is that the writers truly believe that those trash designs and terrible plotlines are good, and came up with it themselves instead of it being mandated by Hasbro.
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is it just me or when they introduced the gay sparkle deer did it seem a little forced with the whole THEY WERE BAD AND NOW THEYRE GOOD?

because it feels a little(probably an understatement) lazy to me that the writers would trash the reformation arc like that.
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>>30876289
>Nu-Changelings wouldn't bug me so much
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considering that since thorax's rule is the polar opposite of chrysalis' I was led to think that if it were done right instead being of brainlessly shoehorned in, thorax would have been the only one to change and that instead of the rest of the hive physically changing with him, they would have a hard time understanding how to share love instead of feeding off of it, it would be more interesting and even possibly comical to see a fish out of water troupe where a changeling tries to share love with a pony/be civilized without being unintentionally awkward or scary

but this whole reformation arc is too much of a trainwreck to even try to fix as the writers already butchered the changeling cannon as much as they could
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