Unpopular opinion thread? >Season 1 is far and away the worst

>Both Seasons 1 and 2 are the worst of the show
>Season is the best season
>Sunset Shimmer is the only EQG character that has the actual personality of a girl in highschool(excluding the take over the world part from the first 90% of the first movie)
>Applejack is the best of the main 6 by a far fucking mile.
>CMC getting their cutie marks the way they did was a perfect end to their hunt for CMs.
>Anthro porn is just as good as pony porn.

>>30602127
It is unarguably the cartoon of the decade in every way.

>>30602127
Fluttershy suck ass until season 5

>>30602157
>CMC getting their cutie marks the way they did was a perfect end to their hunt for CMs.
This is unpopular?

>>30602127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlWzudhGaY

>>30602178
only on here.

>>30602127
>>Some Pony to watch over me is a better episode than Winter Wrap and Best Night Ever
Literally the only reason winter wrap is beloved is cause of the song, not because the episode itself is good.
It was a mediocre episode but I did like how the six got the expectations shit on instead of being the typical girl show thing of actually being the best night.

>>30602183
>Brony analyst
>url ends with GaY
pottery

>>30602127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnWNRUwEicg

>>30602127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noGlpEOB938

>>30602127
Crusaders of the lost Mark and Slice of Life were average episode.

>>30602127
Maud is Autistic.

>>30602127
Newbie Dash was a well done episode and everyone that hates are idiots.

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>>30602222
Digits don't lie

>>30602127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FsEsYJtsto

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>>30602127
Calling Faust mom is the creepiest thing this board can come up with.
And I've seen shit on here.

>>30602127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iBgpwOm9w8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl4Rn0TLbXM

>>30602242
Dash ruined the episode. She was an idiot throughout the entire thing.

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>>30602193

>>30602127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yao7KAW9ICQ&index=2&list=PLhZTlV5Uagg_rJd63OTK-XZMbsfcDx5o8

>>30602270

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>>30602270
>worshipping Faust in general

I have nothing against her or earlier seasons, but I've never met a Faustfag that wasn't an annoying faggot. You can enjoy her work without calling everyone else Hasdrones.

>>30602287
>Dash ruined the episode
explained.

>>30602127
I'm in favour of slutshaming.

Hitler was about a few things.

Mysterious Maredowell is an underrated episode.

>>30602320
She was uncharacteristically arrogant compared even to earlier seasons for the sake of the plot. In season 3, we see that Dash acted extremely professional when first recruited by the wonder bolts, in Newbie Dash, she didn't even know the basics. It didn't help that the episode also had the cringiest moment in the series and possible the dumbest plan from any adult character in the show: even Scootaloo realized the plan was bad.

>>30602127
>season 1 is tied with 3 for the worst season
>Vogel is a pretty decent writer
and i don't know if its unpopular or not, but
>season 7 is a top tier season thus far

>>30602379
>season 7 is a top tier season thus far

I don't think this is unpopular but you never know on here. The SugarMac episode is the only one I didn't care for, but The Perfect Pear definitely made up for it.

The movie is going to suck, and its sales will suck. And there's nothing that can be done to fix it at this point.

>>30602344
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqbyrAdaC38

>>30602287
She's often an idiot, I could get this argument if it was outside the parameters of her character. I don't see how it is.

Unless your argument is "She was dumb and I don't like it when she's dumb", then in that case fair enough.

>>30602183
>>30602202
>>30602213
>Peet
>ever

>>30602394
Sugarmac and Hard to Say Anything are the only shit episodes thus far. Fluttershy leans in isn't bad but just really boring.

>>30602418
Its uncharacteristically idiotic compared to past episodes; think about 28 pranks later, dumb, but it doesn't contradict anything other episodes established in terms of dashes stupidity.

Putting it another way, Dash shouldn't be more idiotic than Scootaloo; an actual child.

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>>30602457
Hard to Say Anything is the SugarMac episode.

I love Fluttershy episodes but I get what you're saying.

There's no need for 26-episode seasons anymore. With like 4 great episodes and the rest being filler and Glimmerpisodes, 13 are enough. The saved effort could be spent on extra stuff for EqG, that is sorely in need of world building and development for it's characters (once-a-year appearances just won't cut it), and perhaps on something new.

>>30602538
Or make the show about the CMC. A vast majority of the shows great episodes have been CMC related.

>>30602559
What are you smoking? CMC episodes are among the most boring and forgettable and have been filler since season 1. They literally have only ONE memorable episode, Crusaders of the Lost Mark.

They weren't even supposed to have a place in the show anyway, being shoehorned by Hasbro to pander to the toddler audience (not even joking), and already got far more attention than they should have.

>>30602609
They were filler in season 1, but the writers started improving their episodes in seasons 2+3. They are some of the only characters in the show with consistent growth (you have to admit that the CMC in seasons 1, seasons 4, and season 6 are all distinct from eachother) and their episodes often have the best emotional moments in the show.

If anything, that is just a sign that Faust wasn't creative enough to make the CMC work and it took Megan's team to improve them.

>>30602675
>you have to admit that the CMC in seasons 1, seasons 4, and season 6 are all distinct from eachother
To do that I would have to remember how the CMC were like on those seasons. Protip: I don't, since like mentioned, they're forgettable.

>their episodes often have the best emotional moments in the show.
Aside from CotLM, which I already mentioned, I'm hard pressed to remember about any feels stuff on CMC episodes

>>30602767
>Aside from CotLM, which I already mentioned, I'm hard pressed to remember about any feels stuff on CMC episodes
Not sure how that works. CotLM doesn't mean much on its own without remember all of the build up and development that led to it.

>>30602486
I meant Honest Apple

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>>30602915
Oh. I thought it was ok, but I'm getting really sick of Rarijack episodes (it made sense in this one but still)

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>>30602127

>Princess Celestia is the best pony in the show.

Season 3 was by far the worst since they killed whatever decency spike still have and cause the fandom to shit itself

My favorite CMC-related episodes are Showstoppers and Cutie Pox.

I'm more interested in EQG than FIM these days, but only because I like Sunset's character and I want to see more of her. Maybe I'm a little tired of the mane 6.

>>30602988
>My favorite CMC-related episodes are Showstoppers and Cutie Pox.
Really want to know why for this one.

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>>30602988
>I'm more interested in EQG than FIM these days, but only because I like Sunset's character and I want to see more of her

I like both equally but I agree. Sci Twi is really cute too.

>>30603003
Honestly I have some trouble remembering episodes after season 4. Name some CMC episodes and maybe I'll correct myself. Still, I always enjoyed both episodes a lot, they were just fun. Though the fibbing moral in Cutie Pox did feel a bit tacked onto the main part of the plot.

>>30603003

>I enjoyed 'For Whom Sweetie Belle Toils' more than I did most of the rest of the CMC related episodes

>>30603004
I do like Sci-Twi too, she's cute. I wish we could have seen more of the reaction between the meeting if Sci-Twi and pony Twi at the end of Friendship Games. And that slumber party book doesn't count.

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>>30603059
Yeah, we need Human Shimmer too.

Not sure if we'll be getting anymore movies or if they switched to the shorts.

>>30603045
Flight to the Finish, Twilight Time, Bloom and Gloom, On Your Mark, Crusade of the Lost Marks, Cart Before the Ponies.

There is also brotherhoof social, but that is more of a big mac episode.

>>30603110
I liked Cart Before the Ponies. And what was the episode with that big male pony, Troubleshoes or something? That was good too.

I think the idea of the show having deep, consistent lore is stupid and misses the point.

The characters are what it's all about, they should keep continuity, but anything else should be creative and spontaneous. They almost always deliver continuity through annoyingly blatant exposition, just stop.

I think, with the exception of some of S3, the show has only gotten consistently better and the fandom, richer.

Just started rewatching after stopping at season 4 years ago. Season 1 isn't even good and 2 is better. (so far, episode 15)

>>30603394
The show gets so much better since you left. Season 4 is where things start to get really good.

>rape is a shit fetish
If your mare doesn't want your dick then you shouldn't try to give it to her, either try to find a waifu that would accept you or use your hands
Actually forcing an unwilling mare to have intercourse with you is absolute degeneracy and the punishment should be death

>>30603407
Cool, looking forward to it.

>>30603409
This

>>30602127
Derpibooru is very well coded, well functioning, nice website, better than any other booru around there.

>>30603488
That's not unpopular tho
People only bitch about the moderation, not the site itself, everyone knows that derpibooru is way above the other boorus

>>30603409
>and the punishment should be death
Ow the edge. I always figured >rape was a meme anyway.

>>30603409
It's a meme, dude. It's a stock reply dropped into CYOAs as a joke to steer things toward the absurd and sexual. I'm sure there are people here who are into it, but most don't actually want to force it like that.

>>30602931
It just seems off. They made AJ a complete braindead idiot for the sake of the plot.

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>>30602988
>Maybe I'm a little tired of the mane 6

FiM has that covered too

>>30603517
>>30603795
No, I know it's a 'meme', but there are still a lot of people that are into it desu, and a lot of people that take it seriously
I'd guess it's a lot of newblood that fell for the meme, that could be it too

>>30603815
Sure, but not enough to where what you're saying is unpopular. I think most people on this board would cuddle a pone or woo a pone before ever harming a pone, so your view is shared by most.

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>>30603409
Abusefags need to die too. Fucking makes me sick that there are people out there who get off to that and want to torment, belittle, and hurt any mare. Nopony deserves that.

Really sucks too since my waifu has a following of abusefags. Makes my blood boil.

>>30602127
>Season 1 is far and away the worst season in the show, the best episodes in season 1 would be mediocre in season 5

People who saying this are literally cumguzzler faggots begging for attention on a mongolian horse hair knitting forum. I mean, okay, that's nice that you have your own opinions, but without any explanation it's nothing more than just trolling others.

>>30603829
Your meme buzzwords don't have any argumentation either.

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>>30603823
I know Anon, it hurts me too
Don't mind the petplay tho, but the fact that they still can't make the distinction between sexual roleplay and abuse is mindblowing to me
Or maybe I'm just being memed

>>30603810
I wasn't a big fan of her last season but she's gotten a lot better since her redemption. I'm happy to have her in the show for sure.

I'm more of a Shimmerfag but the Glimmerfags out there have good taste too.

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>>30603840
At least the petplay is usually consensual. I wouldn't want Starlight as a pet and my property as that is gay as fuck but if she wanted to roleplay it with me I'd be cool with it. I just want her to be happy.

>>30603257
with some ep exceptions,this

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>winter wrap up is a grossly overrated song
>sombra is one of the best show villains
>anthro is great and bronies are furries in denial
>the show is still as good as it's ever been. No more no less
>anon in equestria is the dumbest thing this board is responsible for

>>30604040
>bronies are furries in denial
Boi, the thing is that we don't want to see human body parts and ESPECIALLY human genitalia, that's it, only pure horses. This is exactly why we are not furries, they want to see mutant humans, we want to see horses. And the horse pussy, yes.

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>>30602127
>A Friend in Deed and Pinkie Pride are shit episodes
>To Where and Back Again is by far the worst two-parter
>The CMC are more interesting than the mane6
>EquGirls 4 is best movie of the bunch and has the best songs of all of them
>Pinkie is worst pony

>>30604085
Forgot
>The Show Stoppers was a good episode

>>30604055
This called denial

>>30604085
I agree on that Eqg4 thing
I love those songs, and I liked the movie just as much as RR

>s6 finale is the worst

Is that unpopular?

>>30604055
so capper and his barbed dick are a-ok?
I mean I already know it is but..

>>30604209
Capper has hands so no.

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>The ruined CMC are good now

Does anyone else just straight up recognize this shill?

>>30604198
The s6 finale had some heavy handed Glimmershilling and plotholes out of the ass
>How come the changelings managed to kidnap every single VIP in Equestria without a fight and without anyone noticing?
>How Chrysalis' anti-magic barrier could possibly work against someone like Discord
>Who the fuck was rising the sun and the moon?

>>30604512
That's why I'm asking why is that unpopular

I thought liking it was unpopular

>>30604502
It's an unpopular opinions thread, fucker
you should be happy they wrote it here

>>30602270
This so much.

>>30604492
Spike, Gilda and the Diamond Dogs all had hands in season 1

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>>30604515

I've been seeing shitposts with that a lot lately though, he always has other points to bring but will always very specifically point out how great the CMC are now despite their half-way cutiemarks being widely detested by the fandom as a cop-out.

It makes him seem concerned with the welfare of females in a way that triggers me and by that I mean I want to drink his blood. Has seriously nobody else seen this dude wandering around who loves the shitty neo-CMC? Hell I'm not even a filly guy just seems like an oddly specific hitch.

>>30604565
Nobody fucking cares

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>>30602270

>I'm a woman with an unhealthy relationship with her mother

Stop.

You realize to aged bronymens their mom is just this person they don't depend on but really hope is happy? Like I go to my mom's house and do her recycling and pull her weeds because I love her and she's old and it's hard for her to do that stuff now. Meanwhile calling Faust mom is basically supposed to be creepy, we know full-well she knows we're a bunch of porn-obsessed trolls but also we know she recognizes the significance of creating us. If it comes across like Frankenstein's Monster calling Dr.Frankenstein "father" that's exactly how it's meant.

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>>30604569

Except the one guy I'm calling out who is probably just you at this rate

>>30604556
>Implyng I jerk off to them

>>30604040
So much shit taste for one post but I agree on anthro. Maybe not great, but good.

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Winter Wrap Up is unironically the worst song of the entire show. I cannot stand it, and every time it is brought up that awful song begins playing in my head, and I hate it.

>>30603829
The episodes weren't that engaging and many of the characters were flat and 1 dimensional. The twilight has to exist in every episode formula also hurt a lot of episodes as well.

Biggest offenders were the CMC, Spike, Fluttershy, and Rainbow Dash all of whom significantly improve in later seasons. Its not even a "this is where these characters began" type thing; its that their characters were either unlikable, boring, or both.

Take staremaster as an example; CMC are basically just annoying children (sweetie belle/scootaloo really didn't have characters at this point), fluttershy is a pushover, who learns not to be a push over only to be a push over in the next episode. Or showstoppers which has the CMC not learn anything about cutie marks (granted, this problem exists to some extent in season 2, but the writers wisely started moving away from having all of the CMCs episodes be about their crusades).

Compare that to an episode like Flight to the Finish, which shows dynamic characters struggling with a serious problem and learning something from it (they become a much better team after this episode). Or an episode like Breezies which has Fluttershy retaining what she learned in past episodes and teaching her something that she would retain in future episodes.

>>30602127
First EQG movie wasn't totally garbage.

>>30602127
I want Hitler as President then Obama.

>>30602127
Season 6 was a good season.

>>30604502
They aren't though. The change only improved the CMC: it actually gives them both development and a new way for their characters to progress beyond stagnating indefinitely. There weren't even any crusade related episodes between seasons 3 and seasons 5.

>>30604565
Sounds like you have a hard time believing more than one person can hold an opinion you dislike.

>>30602127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHDWg-o8_n0

>>30602127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFTdKhjvhiI

>>30602127
Having sex with someone that neither struggle nor say no is not rape.

>>30605288
He says as he rapes a passed-out drunk girl.

>>30605307
better then having sex with a dead one.

>>30605307

Are you Lily Peet?

>>30602127
this show was better then MLP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mltRC5JudbQ

>>30604159
Not really. There's plent of furries that don't consider """"" feral"""" to be furry since it's mostly an animal in form. Most furry art is highly humanized and humanoid.

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I honest to God really can't see why everyone and their mother hates Vogel around here. Besides shoehorning Glimmer into a lot of his episodes which is bad enough they're not that poorly written.

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The first EG movie has somewhat of a cute Season 1-esque charm to it and I thought it was really sweet. Sure, it WAS really poorly written but it was to be expected honestly.

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>>30605386
This. Vogel is actually a pretty good writer.

>>30605386
>>30605261

>>30605412
I'm not going to watch a pony review on which the upvote bar has been disabled, but Vogel didn't even write that episode.

>>30605404
Prove it.

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>>30602127
>There is literally nothing wrong with cuckoldry if both parties are consenting.
Unpopular enough for you?

>>30602127
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c2mWh_scIo

>>30605443
I don't take any posts seriously if they contain poochie the OP unicorn.

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>>30605429
Episodes he's written:

>A Hearth's Warming Tail
Excellent.
>Spice Up Your Life
Good.
>Every Little Thing She Does
Excellent.

The episodes he's co-authored are also almost all good or decent.

>>30602127
Starlight is not Twilight 2.0.

Marble is not Fluttershy 2.0.

Big Mac is a player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o8SNYsaB8Q

>>30602127
I don't understand the hated for Big Jim.

Faust was not a good writer.

>>30602127
Starlight Glimmer is unattractive.

>>30605226

When did Spike improve?

>>30605489
fuck you

>>30605493
Season 3-4. Spike episodes have always been bad, but in season 1, spike was an asshole even as a support. At least in the newer seasons, Spike has become much more likable when he was in the supporting role.

>>30605651

He's never had any good episodes?

>>30605655
Some in season 4 and 6 were good, but his episodes have overwhelmingly been bad.

>>30602127
People who call Starlight Glimmer a Mary Sue do not know what a Mary Sue is.

>>30602127
Okay, here it goes.
1. Season 1 is overrated. The most clichéd children cartoon ever (laughing at the end of the episode is one of them)
2 Seasons 1 and 2 aren't better.We had a developing relationship amongst ponies. Starting with S3 we went deeper into their lives. Everything looks better when we experience it for the first time. This is why you enjoy things more when you are a child.
3. Faustfags are wrong
4. Bronies ruined the show.

Starlight glimmer has the most interesting character. Everyone else is kinda flat. Except for rainbow dash.

Spike is a beta cuck.

>>30605705
>3. Faustfags are wrong4. Bronies ruined the show.

explained.

>>30605758
Faustfags are wrong because they say she could have saved the show, but in reality the only thing she would have done is delay the inevitable cooperate meddling. I have no opinion on his 4th point.

>>30605778
Some of the corporate meddling has been positive for the show: at least in the long term.

>>30605784
>corporate meddling

what meddling for I have seen none.

>>30605784
>Positive from corporate meddling.

good one anon.

>>30605658

What good episodes has he had?

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>>30605789
Do you really not know? Twilicorn was a Hasbro mandate.

>>30605799
>>30605789
Rarara and the CMC wouldn't exist without hasbro meddling.

>>30605386
Extremely vocal minority IMO
Might even be a handful of really dedicated autists desu

>>30605813
>Twilicorn
Happen too soon.

>>30602127
Lily Peet is best youtuber for our fandom.

>>30605882
>>30605261
Fuck off, Jerry.

I like the show.

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I like it here.

>>30602127
Season 4 finale is best finale
EqG 1 is alright
I've never hated Flash Sentry, both before and after he became /ourguy/
Baby Cakes and It Ain't Easy Being Breezies are good episodes
The Mane Attraction is a great episode

>>30606073
>Season 4 finale is best finale
>The Mane Attraction is a great episode
Neither of these are unpopular

I think it's not necessarily gay to browse /cm/.

>>30606257
Why don't you go back there you walking aids case

>>30606257
...it kinda is.

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Rainbow Rocks is barely any better than the original movie and it wasn't until Friendship Games that I learned to appreciate Equestria Girls.

>>30606270
RR's saving grace is the 10/10 music and the waifus, if you dislike both then yeah, it wasn't that much better than EQG

>>30606277
Rainbow Rocks is better, don't get me wrong. I think the characterization focus they placed on Sunset was a good decision, but as a piece it didn't entertain me that much. Friendship Games had that continued character focus but also a more interesting stuff going on beyond that.

I know people probably don't fervently disagree with this, but I think Leap Of Faith was a truly great episode.

>>30602127
I prefer pony on pony. Given a wish-fulfillment CYOA, I would rather self-insert as some new OC stallion than as a human anon.

>>30603823
Ponies are for cuddle.

>>30606073
EQG 1 is a strange thing to watch nowadays because it was legitimately bad when it first came out, but the subsequent movies have fixed nearly all of its mistakes and made a pretty interesting series out of them. Flash Sentry is a prime example. Obnoxiously out-of-place love interest in EQG 1, but his separation from Twilight gradually turned him more bearable until Legend of Everfree outright confirmed that they're not a thing anymore and made him appear fairly sympathetic. I wouldn't mind seeing him get more involved now.

>>30606686
Was that a season 3 or 4 episode? I forget

>>30607386
Oh wait that's right, that's the one where applejack gets her key to the box of wonders. Also, map episodes are the best idea the writers ever had

>>30607395
It sucks that the map was pretty much killed off

>>30607578
A Royal Problem from this season used it though?

>>30607606
Yeah and I'm pretty sure the upcoming one with Trixie and Starlight and Thorax's brother will be a map episode

>>30602127
I liked episode 100
I think it was well made fanservice
I do not want it to repeat tho, I enjoyed it as a "special"

Shining Armor fucking Twilight is fantastic and nothing you say will change that.

Half of the opinions that were posted in this thread are not unpopular.

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You guys are my only friends.
Not really an opinion but just thought I throw it out there.

the past seasons don't hold up to scrutiny and it's not our circle jerking and delusions for a grander time that makes us like them...

>>30605832
>CMC

That's not necessarily a positive. At least it wouldn't have during S1-2. Before Glimmer and Twilicorn reeeeing there was CMC reeeeing.

>>30608693
They certainly were in the long term. Writers wrote the CMC badly in seasons 1-2, but started focusing on their characters in later seasons, which I'd argued paid off a lot.

>>30604040
>>anthro is great
>>anon in equestria is the dumbest thing this board is responsible for

Typical fur fandom furfag desu.

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