Pixelcanvas.io - Void edition

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Esperanto is kill
Press F to pay respects.

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Oh, forgot to include these in the OP:
>Strawpoll banner (I think) here http://pixelcanvas.io/@-145,1270

and
>If you care, the green in the rainbow is NOT /vp/'s doing. It's been confirmed by them in their discord. Whoever's doing it is unaffiliated and simply wants to turn the whole thing into a real rainbow.

>>30599761
thanks cyan viod
i guess?

>>30599761
What the heck was this even?

>>30599767
can we write a witty question or something instead of the link?

>>30599746
can someone fix rd's eyes? it looks like they're popping out of her skull

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>>30599746
reminder we planned on putting these somewhere around fausticorn

>>30599746
>http://mlpol.000webhostapp.com/
Halp.
I can't get the minimap to work right, it just stays blank.
Everything appears to have installed correctly, just can't seem to select a template for the minimap.

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So the void wants to know an exact border where they can start expanding south again without bothering us for being too close to us or Koreus. Most of them don't want an infinitely expanding 307px border well past our territory. However the M6 rainbow we have thus far didn't really account for that and doesn't fully encircle Koreus. One of their admins suggested them being allowed to expand south once they hit 1297px http://pixelcanvas.io/@1297,307 although they haven't disucssed it with the rest of their group yet, and we need to discuss it too.

>>30599789
But it's the link to the strawpoll about having a strawpoll banner.

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Fixing this before it becomes a landmine.

>>30599779
A couple people are intent with covering people's work with cyan. They aren't attacking us so I'm not complaining in the slightest

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THREADLY REMINDER

Suggstions for the minimap:
Make simple zoom in/out buttons.
Option center on cursor location rather than browser coordinates.

>>30599827
oh I'm stupid

>>30599841
That whole area is probably one big landmine.

>>30599809
Small ones should be all around the mural, forming a bordering pattern.
Big ones could be used on the left, in an hexagonal/pentagonal formation.

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>>30599809
here's a transparent version if someone wants to try putting it on the canvas with >>30599851 's or your own idea

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>>30599882
also I accidentally clicked something now I'm tripping balls

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okay, i'll write this once again to avoid any further confusion. i'd like to reserve this space
my idea is to split it in 3 rows, each containing 6 characters, there will be background added as well and i'll make it look like three group photos
it should fit perfectly with your planned third row of portraits and from there you can move south and west. i pay with some extra pixelart
is that okay?

>>30599888
Trips confirm this amazing acid trip should be a background

>>30599896
sadly many of those pixels were merged or blurred so this isn't on the site's palette anymore

>>30599910
You crush my dreams and hope, Anon.

>>30599890
I'm OK with this. And, as I said in last thread, as soon as I finish with DerpyDashie I'll help with your EG Maud.

>>30599890
barbie castle
in OOOOUR territory?!
More likely than you think

I honestly really dislike eqg but it's all fair game really and I'm not (much) against you building this
but you're taking a whole lot of space here, better build the outlines quick and mark your spot before something like this happens again

>>30599890
I'm fine with this.

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hmm, can we put the rara and spike picture on top of spike's mural, just left of lyra?
that'd be cute

>>30599925
i might actually finish before you do
>>30599928
i would do the outlines already (Starcraft fag was also confused) but i'm still not sure about the exact dimensions
but i'll try to give it a good though tomorrow

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>>30599961
dooby muche is not maintained right?

>>30599890
ah yes. just because nothing's going on for a few days, doesn't mean that i abandoned it (i'll let you know whent that happens). i have a full time job and stuff to do at home. plus i writefag and drawfag and i also need to do the pixelart first

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>>30599961
Is Spike doing pic related?

>>30599999

Damn.
Doods gotta stay after a post like that.

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>>30599815
I guess it says "No Template in this area"?
You don't have to do anything. It is just showing the Templates when you are in /mlp/ area.
Just zoom to one /mlp/ portrait.
>>30599843
>Make simple zoom in/out buttons.
Already planned this... i just didn't know where to place the buttons yet.... will do it when i have time and feel like it
>Option center on cursor location rather than browser coordinates.
This would cause flickering depending on the connection speed. It could be optional, yes.

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>>30599999

>>30600019
Also this one. >>30597447

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>>30599890
You have shit taste and what you're putting there is absolutely disgusting.
As to your question, I guess it's okay.

>>30600017
spike is standing besides rarity holding his hands to his heart

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>>30600028
Stop not liking what he likes!

>>30600039
the main problem really is that those aren't ponies
and they're in pony territory

>>30600049
We also have some Megamans, a mecha, 4 cars, a flower, and are currently planning the construction of a griffin.
None of them are ponies either. And yet there are they.

>>30600049
>pony territory
not so long ago that area was considered far away from pony territory

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if i can get like 1 person or something just to help get rid of this rogue void before they get any ideas
http://pixelcanvas.io/@361,351

>>30600062
to be fair, a griffin is from the main show
and I always thought we'd move everything else once the time has come
>>30600064
time's change

>>30600080
Aye

>>30600084
what's even the point of moving art?
just build around it in all directions. forger about symmetry, chaos will make it look better

>>30600049
at least it's not a flag

>>30600084
We have an Estonian flag, overwatch character, Donkey Kong characters, and more.

>>30600092
alright, that works fine. Don't want to discourage void from spreading, just not towards us.

>>30600049
It's still part of the franchise.

>>30600095
That reminds me. Have we ever thought about making a Discord portrait or such?

>>30600113
We wanted it to be our last mural. Didn't we?

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>>30600099
No you don't understand! This is heresy, that's worse offense than off topic.

unrelated: I swear I remember seeing ponified "No, you don't understand" with Derpy and muffin, but I just can't find it now.

>>30600017
I... does it really look like that?
fuck it, I'm giving up on art

>>30600185
Yeah I thought that too.

GG Anon.

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>>30599823
>>30600080
I'd suggest this as the north-eastern buffer zone.
Coordenates:
>@466,345 (top right)
>@704,584 (bottom right)
>rainbow border (top left and bottom left)
That'll keep protected both Koreus and /mlp/. After reaching that, they can expand east as far as they can.

>>30600185
yep. same thought

>>30600199
I never thought I'd be successfully driven into depression in the course of an hour

>>30600202
I think the rainbow wall is enough of a buffer zone as is, Void has made it very clear the wall is not to be crossed to their members, it's 1 or 2 stragglers that think they're helping. We don't need this much enforcement.

>>30600202
That's dangerously close to Koreus.
>>30600233
They also made it very clear not to touch ARS, who they have a NAP with. ARS was pure black and almost every rogue made a beeline with it, to the point ARS had to relocate. This http://pixelcanvas.io/@701,768 and our Fausticorn picture have a huge amount of black in them and would be a big incentive for rogues to take.

>>30600211
Hey I like it.

>>30600250
When we have a definitive location (and approval of whatever factions nearby) of fausticorn, then i think we can start enforcing a border near there. Until then, no reason to start wiping out some Void when we want to ask them for some of their space anyways

>>30600202
Speaking of...
Couldn't we build the Graveyard of Factions north of Fluttershy/Panda and east of IWTCIRD's?
It's a pretty prominent area, very close to the (0,0) and big enough for future expansions.
It's also a mostly free area, avoiding us the need of relocating.

>>30600262
They're actively helping us wipe it out right now and agreed to make it one of their next projects after clovers. There's no reason not to at least enforce the 307px border on the western side, that area isn't contested.

>>30600262
>when we want to ask them for some of their space anyways
what?

>>30599843
I quickly made a second version of the Minimap which is following the mouse.

Try it and tell me what you think.

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>>30599746
Is this still going to be south of Fausticorn?

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>>30600293
It is on the site of course.

>>30600296
we should make celestia to go with luna
also where are luna's wings

>>30600313
Yeah, I know. They're only placeholders.

>>30600313
that's obviously luna before she was an alicorn, because ponies can't be born as alicorns

>>30599890
I'm not gonna fight over a space I'm not even going to use, you can have it, but you should finish the boxes around it or else people will think the space is not taken

>>30600388
Can't be, Luna was a pegasus before she was an alicorn.

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>>30600388

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>>30600404

>>30599746
>>30599280
I've supported an asymmetric image there without background. If this does go there, there should be something to the left of it to cover up the eyesore that is there currently.

>>30599761
So, do we have an image with a cyan background to go there?

>>30600449
I'm really bummed about having a background image honestly.
>>30600455
Plan's been to put the spoiler picture there or the other mare-do-well.

>>30599823
I would say 38 pixels away from the wall. The wall is a red line. A funky rainbow barrier can go on the other side, but isn't necessary.

>>30600080
here too

http://pixelcanvas.io/@-100,295

>>30600502
you're not me. also i don't give a fuck about discord.io, that's their problem

>>30600404
So are we going to do a Flurry Heart portrait? We've done one of all the other princesses.

>>30600427
>does't fit on my headcannon
>heresy

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>>30600682

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What's happening with you guys?
Are we back again on the boring Velley of Boredom?

This place used to be full of commie falseflags, saltfags, shitpost and random shenanigans from all factions... But now it's just so serious and sleepy.
Where's all the fun and grieffing?
Were did they go all the awesome and/or impossible ideas, the pandering with /mlp/ memes and inside jokes, the autistic discussions about where/when to place certain projects?

Heck, we even have a new and fresh portrait line, and I've not seen any suggestion for new portraits yet. Not even a single image has been proposed.

Don't fail me on this, guys. The ride is supposed to last forever. Let that "forever" be fill with FUN, and not with emptyness.

>>30600838
I'm spriting something right now. It's, well, sort of related. We'll see if we want to do it.

>>30600393
I didn't find anything about this on the wiki, how come you know that?

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>>30600838
I'll get started once we agree on where this Fleur ass is going to be.
>captcha: HARDING

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>>30600909
>>how come you know that?
I don't, it's just some headcanon not to be taken seriously.

which spike template we are using?

>>30600947
This one: >>30593567

>>30600652
sure why not

>>30600936
I'd say it needs to be as close to Koreus as possible.
Probably @400,1250 (overriding the leftovers of the giant girl Frenchies grieffed).

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>>30600994
I was given this when I asked what Koreus' borders are. It's not 100% guaranteed to be accurate. We might be able to put it on the right side of the bait. I can ask to be sure.

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>>30600875
So this is what I made. I figured it suited the occasion better than a gravestone did.

>>30601112
I always thought the French flag with the snowflake, the star and the dancing mini-Groot was from Koreus...
Anyways, it won't probably fit there without destroying them, and I don't think people here would support such thing.

>>30601138
It might be, the guy I asked said this was only as far as what he knew. I think the flag itself was from a jeuxvideos raid and they added the art on top after but I could be wrong.

>>30601132
very nice, any ideas where to put it? I'll help with it

>>30601212
At some corner of our workspace?
>@-1080,570
>@310,510
>@-14xx,17xx

>>30601212
Well void hates recruiter and we scrapped our initial idea of making a gift for the void. Maybe between us and them as a sign of friendship? Or here http://pixelcanvas.io/@-791,423 where clovers tried to rebuild.

THE KEKISTAN FACTION NEEDS SOME HELP PLEASE!!!! WE GOT AN LGBT GROUP THAT'S PART OF COMMIES ATTACKING US!! SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CIRCLED AREA!!!
http://pixelcanvas.io/@-2673,3065
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/317097066591420416/339931450629423104/Inkedpixelcanvas.io_-26733065_2017-07-27T00-43-56Z_LI.jpg

>>30601282
>https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/317097066591420416/339931450629423104/Inkedpixelcanvas.io_-26733065_2017-07-27T00-43-56Z_LI.jpg
you know this is an imageboard right?

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>>30601282
This is the LGBT/commie's methods and this is how we thwart them!

>>30601132
kek

>>30601255
pls we should add RIP recruiter

>>30601328
That should go under the tombstone for the clovess faction on the Graveyard.

>>30601132
I want this next to the gouge-eye mural.

>>30601328
and never come back, faggot

>>30601132
It's a nice idea, go for it

>>30601371
why is void making a beeline for koreus >>30601112

>>30601388
They're not. It was a rogue void, and it was cutted right away yesterday.

>>30601407
what's this then? http://pixelcanvas.io/@488,441

>>30601388
That's not us, we've been making more of a push towards east and not downwards. I'll check to see what are people doing just in case. But even if it is them, we're not attacking koreus.

>>30601132
The best thing about this is how confusing it will be to people who don't follow the thread. Just say where and when.

>>30601481
Just like the Draniti banner.

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>>30601481
How about this? We could put >>30600296 off to the right of the Fausticorn.

>>30601533
>dat asymmetry, boi
It could work. We'd just need to relocate some small artworks.

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>>30601533
Your Faust dedication banner obliterates this piece.

>>30601577
Oh, that's true. We could put the dedication banner to the left and find a better place for the lettuce. That way we only need to move polybius. http://pixelcanvas.io/@-647,518 We might need to downsize our dedication piece a bit no matter what though.

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>>30601590
How about this? It requires moving the Spike here http://pixelcanvas.io/@-905,1579 but there's room between the third portrait row and the lettuce for him.

>>30601636
The space has a lot of potential for portrait-sized stand-alone projects (like BubbleButt or Fleur butt).
I still prefer the lettuce on any of our corners (probably on the north-eastern one). It fits perfectly with Recruiter's message.

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>>30601636
ftfy

Well, Dashie x Derpy is now pixel perfect now, while EG Maud still has some pixels left. Suck that, >>30599981!

Anyways, I'm going to help finish Maud as I said and then, maybe help with Strawpoll banner or Spike portrait.

>>30601678
>still has some pixels left
wha? where?

>>30601666
My cabbages!

>>30601666
Damn, I didn't see that at all. That's really clever.

>>30601689
On her right boot. Just finished the cleaning.

>>30601659
why not put those in the vertical part of our third row?

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>/bant/ Meme War goes full scale
>Mods nuke the board

>>30601752
I already started the outline for BubbleButt at http://pixelcanvas.io/@-228,1296 last night

>>30601811
In that case >>30601666 >>30601636 should be fine right?

>>30601828
I don't see a problem. I was just letting everyone know now before someone decided to start building it somewhere else, too.

>>30601847
Well here's the template for it with >>30601666's edit if this is the spot we like.

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>>30601905
Forgot pic.

>>30601909
Perfect, we can work on this until we have an actual location for the fausticorn.

>>30600936
Just noticed there are some colors in this one that aren't even compatible for pixelcanvas. Am I seeing this right?

>>30601994
You are. Give me a second and I can clean it up.

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My tiny Trixie wagon with tiny Trixie is done! it's right above daybreaker's horn.
And to whoever helped fill in some of the colors last night, thanks for the help.
Also there's that half finished rainbow dash heart to the left of it, does anyone have a template for that? I hate seeing things half finished.

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>>30602008
Mostly done automatically, so some of it could be off. I tried to fix the worst mistakes though.

>>30600293
Late reply, I know. It works perfectly for me. Thanks!

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>>30602062
And with grid.

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>>30602062
>>30602069
Nice, now I can get started. Have a Fleur.

>>30602089
No problem. If there's somewhere that changes patterns weirdly, it's probably better to keep with the actual dithering pattern, it's just a mistake in how the program I'm using guessed the color.

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What about this Harshwhinny?

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>>30601909
Cleaner template since we don't need the references anymore, and with a few small errors fixed.

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>>30602637
>anthro shit

>>30602653
Why the spelling errors?

>>30602693
because it was posted like this

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>>30602693

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Hey mlp, vp Fox here. Total ignoramus at artsy stuff, but I've been working on putting this bit of Slugbox to canvas. The original is subtly colored in pale blue and grey which doesn't leave much room in the Pixelcanvas palette. I've tried to eke out contrast where I can, but the hair really suffers from flatness. and of course practically every time I look at it I find something I want to change... can I has an advice pls? Original in next post for reference

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>>30602731

>>30602731
>>30602738
Use white for the hair, except for the shading which I would do in either both grays, or both of the lighter blues. We have a spriting guide in the OP which might help you a bit.

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Portrait border for >>30602062 >>30602069 is completed @403,1199.

Had to cut through the yellow and green kirbies and a Portal logo abandoned? to make way for the portrait border, but pic related can be used as a reference if anyone wants to redraw them. Good spot for the kirbies would be under the pink one next to the two.

Could use some help clearing pixels outside the border as well.

>>30603137
DON'T YOU DARE!!!

>>30603137
s... spill it

So, I asked before and I'll ask again, what should be done about those cats in the area I'm outlining BubbleButt in?

>>30602853
Do you just want all the pixels inside the border covered up in white?

>>30603262
They're completed and protected art works. It's your civil duty to relocate them in a safe place before starting your lewd pone.
It won't cost you so much time, they're not so big.

>>30603283
No I'd rather fill the pixels inside the border up as I go along with the template. I just want the pixels outside the border cleaned up so it looks neat and tidy.

>>30603289
I wasn't sure because they seem to be abandoned and mildly griefed. Do you have any old pics of them, 'cause I don't think the left one is supposed to be vomiting blood?

>>30603298
Alright, I'll see what I can do.

Hey /mlp/! /bant/ here. There is an elf above our iron cross flag. We wish to turn it into a Hitler youth pic. Can you guys give us some ideas. It should be fairly easy. (just changing the shirt, fixing ears, jaw and hair.)
Thanks! <3 you all for being greatest ally.

>>30603379
You seem to have covered most of the ideas already, but maybe you could make the background more interesting too.

>>30603379
I don't know what ideas you've already gone over in your thread, but I'd say a feldgrau uniform and matching field cap.

>>30603379
less elf-like facial features

The first cat is relocated. So, does anyone know if the cat at http://pixelcanvas.io/@-206,1339 is supposed to look like it does? I can't move it until I know what to move.

>>30602057
oh that's superb, nice work
though the grass part could have been done a bit better

>>30603379
horns

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NO
SDLG is greatest ally,
We see you bant of 4chan. we like your flag, but mlp already make us 4 tributes and you only one.
Choose wiseley next time :v HailGrasa :v

>>30603736
now to think of it, how many tributes and other group works do we have in our area

>bant banner
>Merci Koreus
>A whole dedicated portrait and banner for fc
>two sdlg ponies, a grave and a banner
>two brazil ponies and a banner
>a polish banner, fluttershy.pl princesses, estonian flag and lithuanian mini flag and side banner
>three /mlpol/ banners
>a whole /vp/ portrait, two banners and side banner
>hispachan pony with autism
>that legion rarity group nobody knows much about
>four rainbow side banners
>there's now a czech pony near bubblebutt being build
>smalltinybigcarmaresx-treme
>a now cyanide'd esperanto flag
>revolution banner
>one big nope for communism
>growing lettuce shitpost

did I miss anything? also we need a tribute for the void too if we're building that eyegouger thing

>>30603768
King Sombra would be a fitting pony for void

>>30603787
we also have an idea of a grave with a single black dot

>>30603787
Or we could dedicate them some Mare Do Well
>>30593103
>>30594339

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Someone started building where Spike was going to be relocated to, so I decided to split the templates into two separate parts so we don't go over their work.

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>>30603868
And I'm starting Spike here. http://pixelcanvas.io/@-702,1671

>>30603868
Sorry for fucking up and outlining where spike was supposed to go in the older template.

>>30603768
"Hey, ponies, I declare war on you."
"You seem OK, I hate to kill you."
"Alliance?"
"Make me tribute art."

Our Brazilian friends have their flag under attack, the void discord are helping defend it, we welcome /mlp to come help defend against the dirty frogs. It seems they have co-ordinated this with the commies as the commies are going after the kek flag.

i am accused of using a proxy the 3rd day in a row now
what can I do?

>>30604134
disable your proxy

>>30604134
reload the page
if that doesn't work
talk to the devs on discord

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I would request that the Polybius piece be placed over this Google tag when the time comes to move it. The Google forwarding died soon after it was advertised here, and is also now unreadable.

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>tfw you step on a landmine out of nowhere

>>30604413
>one random 'land mine'

Every pixel of my current restoration project is 3:40.

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>>30603137

>>30604449
I like the idea.
I hate the dithering.

>>30604458
I don't see much of a way to get around it, pixelcanvas palette to limited.

>>30604465
I would replace the dithered background colours with something available in the palette.
I'm probably more averse to it then most because I only play on my phone and anything dithered and not zoomed all the way out ends up looking like a checkerboard.

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>>30604449

>>30604496
I prefer that.
But again that's just my thoughts.

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>>30604536
WHY

Down to 21 pixel to go.
Maybe I'll get this Jolteon done today.
Maybe.

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Which do people like better?

>>30604628
I'm the anti dither guy.
Solid looks better to me.

Anyone have the template for the Wonderbolts?

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>>30604662

>>30604670
Thanks.

>>30604628
Twilights hair is better on the left and also the Twilight portrait we already have has blue/violet hair.
I don't really care about the background tho.
>>30604662
>>30604670
Also check it out on the template sites in the future.
http://mlpol.000webhostapp.com/

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>>30604675
Better?

>>30604719
don't dither her body either please, have it as left

>>30604719
Yes, i like it.
Good work.

>>30604719
The background and body just don't really need the dithering at that scale. You'd be better off accepting that the color won't be quite right and just going with the darker shade.

>>30604719
I think the real question is whether the background is needed at all.
The table, sure - but over half the pic is a boring background that somebody would have to make, which I find kind of pointless. That's like 6000 pixels wasted.

>>30604926
I think it should have the background. It helps give the scene definition.

>>30604947
Sure, but if that level of dithering makes it fade into the heavily dithered version of twilight unless you are zoomed out all the way.
I mean, I know that dithering never looks very good when you're zoomed in like this, but I think that you would get more definition if either Twilight or the background weren't dithered.

>>30604966
I agree, I'm the first one who was telling him not to dither it.

I want a full size Spitfire portrait.

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I could try a no background version if anybody wants. Also I can revise any of theses
>>30603137
>>30604449
>>30604486
>>30604536
As well.

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>>30605234
I want a portrait of the one true queen.

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>>30605234

>>30605385
Spfider

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>>30605378
r
u
dum?

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Made an update of the Minimap Userscript.
You can now Zoom and switch between Following Mouse / Following Window..... but following the mouse works soo good now that nobody would want to choose "Follow Window" (except if your PC is a potato).

Install/Reinstall it... it is now even more awesome.

Also i did a code-review and this should be a final version now. I don't plan any future Updates. If there is no major change in the pixelcanvas site itself, it will stay like it is.

>>30605406
I want better though like a full body pic.
That was just the only non lewd I had to post.

Yay, after weeks of pixels I'm done rebuilding vaporeon.

Now on to finishing Ponyta.

can someone put lyra (http://pixelcanvas.io/@-1029,1632) in the templates?

What are working on right now?
>Spike portrait

>>30605911
Ponyta

>>30605901
It's in there, near the bottom.

>>30605911
Need template for the Minimap

>>30605911
The harp for the Lyra @-1029,1632

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>>30605921
I don't have the 1:1, just this one with grid.

>>30605911
Slowly replacing black pixels with rainbow on demilitarized zone

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>>30605929
i made a 1:1

>>30605968
Added it to mlpol.000webhostapp.com
It is in the minimap now, just need to refresh the site.

>>30605911
strawpoll banner

>>30606023
those eyes are so weird

>>30605323
Just curious, does anyone want to actually build this?

>>30606043
could be fun

>>30605911
I'm looking for images for our last mural.

>>30606043
Nope

>>30606043
Yep

>>30606043
Dither free.
Yes please.

Hoodie Lyra is complete!

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>>30606100
Democracy is compromise, so here you go

>>30606142
Do like.

>>30606125
Are you blind?

>>30606125
It still miss a hoof.

>>30606142
I want twilight to shove that glass of choco milk up my butt

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>>30606142
Twilight you little shit!

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>>30606189
1guy1jar1pony

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What does /mlp/ think of this as a boundary for the void? They want to start heading south at some point and this is what we've negotiated as a possible boundary for them to do so.

It gives us ample room to expand, and for them to do so as well. It also gives a nice buffer area for Koreus+/o/ and is a boundary we wouldn't need to actively maintain, since it's much further away.

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>>30606180
>>30606185

But she is perfect

>>30606201
it's a lot better than what they've been doing I think, and if they stay on their side it'd mean we wouldn't have to worry about it in the future

>>30606201
looks good to me, won't complain about that

>>30606201
>Southeast indefinitely
I'd be fine with it dropping south so long as Koreus falls within the barrier, fuck that french flag.

>>30606201
If they cut off rogue void below that line I'm okay with it.

>>30606201
This looks good to me. I'm a lot more comfortable with this than the current arrangement.

>>30606201
nice, even tho i wouldn't mind thm devourinfg europe center

>>30606234
The problem with that is that this whole boundary issue started because the actual void built that tendril against our rainbow, without asking if it was okay. One guy in their discord has been working on expanding it there with four IPs. That's been dealt with now and the terms have been made clearer. But the reason it extends indefinitely is to prevent them going due south and then having this same issue come up at some point and wanting to head west below us.

>>30606249
I wouldn't mind seeing france voided but we share a border with them so I can understand why that'd be an issue

>>30606201
I proposed something similar yesterday. I like the idea.
However, we would need to discard the idea of expanding east of Koreus, like someone else suggested some threads ago (to keep them on our central core and be symmetrical to the (0,0)).
That'll leave us literally trapped between /vp/, /bant/, Void, France and Europe center, with no other choice than make a second base, separated from our main area, If we want to ever expand without loosing our principles of no agression.

>>30606249
But why not south indefinitely instead of southeast indefinitely?

>>30606201
Just take the old rainbow and let it drop at 900.

There is too much shit to the east of that line which would be interesting for void (and which we really shouldn't include in any deal).
The void needs a nice way down to this Commie "zoforum.fr" and to the French area.... and i guess they want to have that possibility.

there's plenty of room for expansion to the west

>>30606273
Well the original proposal was east indefinitely. East indefinitely didn't work for them even though it left them with a lot of room to expand and that's why we ran into this mess with a huge amount of void to clean in the first place. South will put them right near our border and the border of our allies so if any disputes occur or they decide to change direction they're our problem again. South-east puts them further and further away over time, so they're less likely to have a dispute with us even if they do change direction.

>>30606201
It's already pretty unanimous by the sounds of things, but I really hope we use the new space to the right to put up a few of the older pieces we never did.

Did we ever find space for the Faust mural?

>>30606292
we still need to discuss what our eastern border should be from what >>30606296 is saying, especially if that bit of rogue void isn't rogue after all

>>30606296
I don't think that they will have any dispute with us if they have the possibility to go inside the French area.

What if the void decides to attack the French, which are to the West of your south-east border?
This would be a violation of that deal. Do we have to defend the French if the void breaks our deal and attacks them?

Leave them a way to the French... there is not one single reason why we should include that area.
Do you remember the horrible SDLG deal, when we included a huge area which didn't belong to us in that deal and it failed?

>>30606296
Well, this way the french fall within our border with the void, maybe they'll actually be fucking grateful and stop be massive cunts.

>>30606314
French are like Commies.... they are even allied with Commies.... this will never ever happen.
They won't be grateful for anything.

>>30606312
No, we don't have to defend anything. The void has done the majority of the policing on their own borders themselves. I hate JVC too, but this isn't done to protect them. It's being proposed directly because the void took it upon themselves to start changing the boundaries without consulting us, and eventually if they void the French flag someone will take it upon themselves to start voiding below us too. We'll end up encircled, and that's what this proposal is trying to prevent.

>>30606312
As long as the void has a possible way to the French area, i am OK with it.

But if the void doesn't have anyone it could attack, they will get bored and will attack us.

>>30606323
we share a border with france, if france is attacked by the void then that's a problem for us in the making

>>30606323
void won't attack us now that we have clearly defined boundaries set out, and these boundaries do a pretty good job of keeping them out of our way in the future

>>30606320
>No, we don't have to defend anything
But if we establish a border, we have to talk about the possibility of it getting violated.

It is not smart to make a border which is impossible to hold. Then it is pretty much useless and we would be better without it.

Over ex-Kekistani/Forocoches flag.

>>30606329
>we share a border with france
Yeah, and this is a problem.
And the French are way more hostile than the void.
So if the void can attack France, it will be good for us.... it doesn't create a problem, it makes an already existing problem smaller.

I think renegotiating the border is pointless. We will eventually be surrounded by the void. That I can gaurentee. I'd rather stay on their good side.

>>30606332
>But if we establish a border, we have to talk about the possibility of it getting violated.
We do. However the void has, until the last several days, done an enormous amount of defense on our own shared border for us. But this isn't rogue void that was put down here http://pixelcanvas.io/@416,369 it was people who decided to take it upon themselves to readjust the border without consulting us.

A lot of people were in favour of expanding right onto our asses in the void and this is something I've talked them down from. The void has been good to us, but it is not without quite a few people of the opinion that everything should be painted black, or that they should paint black as close to us as they're allowed. We need to think of our own interests first and foremost, before we think of interests in fucking over a faction we dislike.

We shouldn't say screw the French at the cost of our own necks.

>>30606331
Yes, because the boundary now is between us and doesn't include other big factions... it was easy to implement.
But south-east is different, it includes France.

Make the border like the other one (which is working)... just drop it at 850 or 900 or 1000... so that it doesn't include other big factions

>>30606344
>done an enormous amount of defense on our own shared border for us
> on our own shared border
> shared border
Right.
To the south-east it wouldn't be a border between us and void... it would be a border between void and France.

>>30606348
if we do that we would have to defend half of france

>>30606357
And if we do the south-east thing, we would have to defend whole france.
Just drop the border at 900 and exclude the French area and everything is fine.

Just don't include France.

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>derpibooru main page
>my template in minecraft
wtf

>>30606340
No, that's the point of this barrier. We have good communication and good relations with the void, we just need an agreed upon area.

>>30606340
Proposed image literally prevents the void from encircling us while giving plenty of space to the east to expand, they can't come near us

>>30606369
Ok... now please tell us one single reason why the French area should be included in the deal.

>>30606309
Above. It also looks like there is a likely candidate for it too.

>>30606362
I think you're underestimating just how many people in the void are of the opinion 'void everything screw the NAP' is a valid option, and the rest who don't still want to expand as much as they possibly can. If we allow them to they WILL encircle us. Right now, as things stand we can only expand a little bit to the south and then on to the west below the iron cross. If we allow the void to encircle us, we can't expand anywhere anymore and we are at their mercy.

>>30606379
So we aren't encircled. I don't like France any better than you do, but if you're that adamantly opposed to them and want them dead let's discuss doing a joint project with the French/brazil/void. Void has helped us on a few things that interested them.

>>30606366
it's not even fully built
I never understood 'pixel art' in minecraft really

>>30606383
>I think you're underestimating just how many people in the void are of the opinion 'void everything screw the NAP' is a valid option
No, i am not.
I know that the void is a faction which likes to attack.
This is the reason why i want them to have the possibility to attack France.
Because if they can't attack anything and just expand into empty areas, their users get bored and WILL break the NAP.... and then they will attack us and suddenly 50% of the void users are "rough void", just because they are bored.

Let them attack France

>>30606309
>>30606334

>>30606397
>So we aren't encircled
How does this change anything?
So we are cut off on the East with France + void instead of just void?
I don't see how this is better.

>>30606340
You overestimate their numbers and resolve.

>>30606413
they haven't even worked on their flag, they've gone back to attacking brazil. why shouldn't we expand to the right and use that area as our own?

>>30606403
it's possible to deal with france in ways other than having the void consume them, france is too close to us to let the void take over

>>30606383
We don't need to let them attack the whole large france flag, just half of it, then they'll give up and we get that space as a buffer zone between use and east void.

>>30606413
Because the void is friendly to us, but not as friendly as you think. This way it keeps us peaceful neighbors and keeps them out of our territory. France is already much too close to us for our own liking, so why should we let void which is considerably more active head there too?

>>30606432
void doesn't need to be the faction that does that

>>30606422
>they've gone back to attacking brazil.
>why shouldn't we expand to the right and use that area as our own?
You just answered your own question. France is a attack-only faction. They started with attacking EU, then Germany, then Romania, then Brazil...
When they attacked, their users were happy.... when they built something (like the huge flag) their user-count dropped and they were weak.

So if we try to take the French are... what will they do? Continue with attacking Brazil? I don't think so... i know what their next target would be.

>>30606309
Here?
>>30599280

>>30606441
did you see how weak their last two attacks on brazil were? we need room to expand and they're in our way, and they're the only faction in our way which we don't have peace with

>>30606451
>did you see how weak their last two attacks on brazil were?
Still stronger than any attack of the void

>>30606427
>t rogue void that was put do
Void "rouge" here who followed down the border. Nobody wants to attack some massive 3min cool down flag when we can go after easy pickin's (white). I think you guys are paranoid about us encircling you. I've never seen any voiders discussing anything like that in any worrisome number. I just wanted some room to move South East because playing along a hard edge is monotonous.

>>30606454
void would attack our white space, not our pictures which are under bot protection, which would france go after?

>>30606435
>This way it keeps us peaceful neighbors and keeps them out of our territory.
But a border which would not include France would do the same.
How does this make anything better?
Why include France?

>>30606466
>void would attack our white space, not our pictures which are under bot protection, which would france go after?
There is no difference between a void attack and a French attack.
Void has one color, France has three.

>>30606459
It's not that your intended goal is to deliberately encircle us, but rather that if we headed due south like you ask, eventually someone with your same mindset would come along and start going west, and by then we're encircled on 3/4th of our borders.
>>30606472
We should deal with France some way other than this. This isn't about them and it shouldn't be convoluted into being about them, it's about our own safety first and foremost. Don't hate France so much you forget about our own territory and our own safety.

>>30606488
>This isn't about them
Good... then why do you want to include them?
> it's about our own safety first
Good... then accept the fact that if the void can't attack anything and is forced to expand into empty area, it will get boring for their people and more of them will be "rough void".
If they can attack other big factions, they don't get bored and don't attack us.
So it is benefiting for our own safety if the void has more options... while there is not one single reason why we should include France in the deal.

Whoa, what the hell guys. You can't seriously want the void closer than that?

They literally are willing to help maintain the border as well. What the fuck is the downside? How can you possibly justify letting them surround us?

>>30606472
why are you trying to screw us over? I don't want the void right next to us

>>30606488
I understand your concern. I had no intentions of going South of say 584. I'm just interjecting over a possible attack on France. I don't think anyone is up for it with 3min cool down. We would need everyones help. Even then, we could divide it up with the NAP or something - Or just straight up destroy it for your use.

>>30606516
It is about if the void should have the possibility to attack France or not.

>>30606512
>while there is not one single reason why we should include France in the deal.

not including them in the border just means you have void restricting expansion, void is not essential to dealing with france

>>30606512
They're a warring faction, yeah. But they're not going to want to deal with the cooldowns there. The whole French flag has 3:00 cooldowns and is only going to get longer. If we allow that they'll follow along the border of the northern border of the French flag and head towards Koreus, /o/, and ultimately ourselves. Maybe they'll destroy the center area of the French flag but that's already taken care of anyway.

>>30606518
What is the difference between having the void there or having France there?

Just don't include France in the border, this is everything i want.
There is no difference for me in "surrounded by void" or "surrounded by France and void".... in both cases we are surrounded. But in the second case rough void will attack us instead of France.

>>30606539
because france is already in our territory, remove france, don't replace with another faction

>>30606525
>>30606535
see >>30606459
They want to go for easier targets, not the french. Why give them the option to then go for us more easily so we can give them a choice they won't want anyway?

>>30606539
you need to be more ambitious, think of how much better it'll be to have neither france nor void there. we can already ensure void won't be

>>30606544
>remove france, don't replace with another faction
The thing is that void and France will attack other things if they are not busy with each other.
Attack-only factions will attack anyway. But it is better if they attack each other.

>>30606539
What the actual fuck are you talking about. France isn't actively expanding their flag in our direction. Void WILL expand because of rogue attacks. Constantly.

>>30606539
No, they won't. The northern border has never been disputed and they go out of their way to repair it. Even those who went and voided southeast help repair and actively build rainbow that border more than the rest of /mlp/ does.

We can deal with France in some other matter, so don't make it about them that screws over us. This is our own interests.

>>30606546
>go for easier targets, not the french
The French are a pretty good target for void, because they already hate each other. And the French aren't very strong now (and will be even weaker when void arrives).

>>30606558
france is already our enemy, and the void isn't- let's not give void a reason to come for a comparatively "easy" target and turn them into an enemy

>>30606567
The French are a terrible target for the void. They're a solid blue and red mass with no white spaces between of just pure 3:00 cooldowns. The white in the center is the only place that will be heavily attacked, and the border between France and Koreus. And it's that border that leads directly to /o/ and then, immediately after that, us. The void hasn't even finished destroying the clovers because the cooldown there is too long.

>>30606561
>The northern border has never been disputed and they go out of their way to repair it
Because they are busy with other things.
And rough void is getting stronger right now... why do you think is this the case?
Because the Clovers are dead and so they have less options to attack other factions.... they just don't have anything else to do.
If they can't do something else -> more people go rough.
It is in our interests to keep them busy. It is not in our interest to protect France.

>>30606574
>white spaces between
33% of France is a white space
>>30606568
I agree.... but how is this related to the questions if we allow them to attack France?

>>30606578
I'm in the void's discord. I even have permission to see the channel they plan in. I can tell you with absolute certainty that you're wrong, although I won't go into detail on it for their sake.

We should stop using white as our default background. We could stop pollution better.

>>30606599
>7 minute cooldown every time we want to build something new
fuck no

>>30606596
If rough void would listen to the void-"leaders", we wouldn't call them rough.

Fact is:
If the void has nothing to do, more people of them get rough. It was always like that and it will always be like that.
We can see this on our current border.

>>30606603
Only near our things.

>>30606578
this isn't about protecting france, what you're missing is that giant french flag is a terrible target for the void as >>30606574 said, they prefer easy white space

>>30606610
No. They coordinate heavily and expand into solo art areas as well. And you misunderstand them as being solely a warring faction. They literally want the entire canvas black, even areas that have no factions there. They also heavily organize behind what Insert wants and see him in a very positive light.

I can assure you that your understanding of the void, and your understanding of what they will or won't do is completely faulty.

>>30606610
Ok guys, i will end this now.

I am still for a border which would not include the French area and i still don't know one single reason why we should protect France.

But... just ask void about it... ask them what they are planning to do.
I guess the void leaders will be aware that their users don't want to expand into empty area forever.
Ask them what they want to do in the future... if the leader really want to expand into empty area, then we will have to deal with more rough void in the future and nobody can help them... then i am OK with your strange wish of protecting France.

How the fuck are we supposed to let them void france. Seriously. Go look at it. Look at how close it is. If they took that, they would basically immediately be able to aggressively push inward. We don't want them to surround us like that.
You don't seriously want them to surround us like that, do you?

>>30606615
>they prefer easy white space
Don't you see the white space in the French flag?

>>30606642
NAP and Void/MLP are damn near allies if you hang out in the discord. Void doesn't even want that area, they just want wiggle room with the damn endless East NAP

>>30606638
>protecting

please stop this mindset, this plan has no intention of "protecting" france, it's recognising that leaving france to the void is a terrible idea anyway for two reasons: firstly it's way too fucking close to us, and two they're a terrible target for the void because it's a huge minefield.

there are better ways of dealing with france to look into, leaving it to the void is not the answer

>>30606638
The purpose of the Void itself is to make black the background of all PixelCanvas. Expansion over empty areas ARE on their plan, and it always was.

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>>30606638
>then i am OK with your strange wish of protecting France.
We can build on it ourselves if it makes you happy. Hell we could make a giant supermural on the entire thing for all I care. I don't give a fuck what happens to France and if you guys want something there I would try to get Brazil on board. What I do care about is the void not coming right into our backyard, which France is already in and then some.
>>30606646
Pic related.

>>30606624
>They coordinate heavily
Ok, half of the pro-protecting-France users here say that it is because the void has good coordination and listens to their leaders.
And the other half says that the void is rough and we should protect France because this will get the void further away from us.

>>30606646
Read the fucking quote.

>>30606657
>this plan has no intention of "protecting" france
then there is no reason to include France

>>30606669
You're the only person that somehow thinks anyone here is trying to protect France.

>>30606651
Two words: rogue void. I know we're on good terms, but I can tell you with great certainty that if we let them get that close, rogues will break through (repeatedly) and destroy our shit.

We don't want to protect france. I don't give a flying fuck about france. All I want is to keep as many pixels between us and the void as we possibly can.

>>30606675
I don't know one single white area of another faction without landmines.
From all the big factions, French is the best target for void.

>>30606690
They don't have to void the entire french flag, you know. Maybe half or a third of it even.

>>30606691
stop thinking about it in terms of claimed areas. look at >>30606667 there is enough white space in our area that they would happily go for us over the blue and red in france

>>30606682
There is still not one single reason why we should include the French area in a deal.